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Wednesday, July 23, 2008

Washington Post Says The Forward Base In Afghanistan Where 9 Were Killed Was “Overpowered”

Of course.....they would have that take on it.

In this entire piece the writer never bothers to mention that the small unit of American Airborne troops, along with some Afghanis fought vastly superior numbers of Taliban to a standstill, then drove them away when air support arrived. It doesn’t mention the courage of our guys in that dogfight of a battle.

It just says this:

When insurgents mustered superior numbers and overpowered U.S. and Afghan forces in remote Konar province on July 13, more U.S. soldiers died than were killed by enemy action in all of Iraq during the first three weeks in July.

It also fails to mention that seven of the nine troops we lost were in a small foward listening post, not at the main camp, and that the insurgents targeted them first.

For the story of the fight straight out of the mouths of soldiers who were there, check out this compelling article in Stars and Stripes. Here’s just one quote from it:

“It was some of the bravest stuff I’ve ever seen in my life, and I will never see it again because those guys,” Stafford said, then paused. “Normal humans wouldn’t do that. You’re not supposed to do that — getting up and firing back when everything around you is popping and whizzing and trees, branches coming down and sandbags exploding and RPGs coming in over your head … It was a fistfight then, and those guys held ’ em off.”

Stafford offered a guess as to why his fellow soldiers fought so hard.

“Just hardcoreness I guess,” he said. “Just guys kicking ass, basically. Just making sure that we look scary enough that you don’t want to come in and try to get us.”

Read the whole thing. Both articles, in fact.

See if you think those guys were “overpowered”.

Comments

Yes, even the bravest armies have small outposts overpowered once in a while.  That’s war, no?  The big scandal here is that no one at the Post has evidently taken enough history to realize this.

Bike Bubba on July 23, 2008 at 07:57 am
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Why were these troops outnumberd and led to die. Who the hell plans these remote outpost locations?

clark on July 23, 2008 at 01:18 pm

Clark,

You are apparently as ignorant about military matters as Barack Obama.  And that, Sir, is no damn compliment!


“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Bat One on July 23, 2008 at 01:22 pm
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Not surprising that the liberals at the post would ignore the heroism of the American soldier.  They would rather help Obama win an election and attempt to make President Bush look bad, then help America win a war and give our brave soldiers the respect theY deserve.  The only thing less surprising than this will be Hannitized defense of the post here.

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scott on July 23, 2008 at 01:22 pm

Funny, an numerically superior Taliwacker force hit a FPB, breeched the wire in 3 places, pushed at least 20 sappers into the perimeter, and got its ass handed to it. Resoundingly. Was pursued by helios and chopped up with artillery fire. Their wound left where they fell. Our wounded calling fire and tending to the worse off among their number.

And yes, the position was vacated. They moved to another. And in a few days they will move to another. And so on and etc. This is not a static post strategy. It is a modified version of the tactics used by the Brits in that region 150 years ago. And it is working.

Clark? The Officers and NCOs running these ops are who plans these remote outpost positions. It is the job. You want to engage and destroy the enemy, that means going where he is, kicking him in the balls, and daring him to do something about it. Have you, perchance, seen the enemy KIA numbers for this little set to? The weight of munitions, weapons, and vehicles destroyed and captured?


Una Salus Victus Nullam Sperare Salutem

2Hotel9 on July 23, 2008 at 02:12 pm

What is that saying ‘no battle plan survives first contact with the enemy’ i.e. you can’t plan for all the contingencies that are going to occur in actual combat.


You don’t have to be a moron to be a liberal Democrat but it sure helps.

docdave on July 23, 2008 at 02:16 pm

DD, in this case they got exactly what they were planning for, just in larger volume than they expected the Taliwackers to bring to bear that quickly. They still accomplished the mission, to engage and destroy the enemy. They just had not figured to take out so many at that particular place and time.

Improvise.
Adapt.
Overcome.


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2Hotel9 on July 23, 2008 at 02:43 pm
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