Was Cheney Drunk?

  •  February 15, 2006

Lawrence O’Donnel thinks so…

How do we know there was no alcohol? Cheney refused to talk to local authorities until the next day. No point in giving him a breathalyzer then.

Did Cheney really refuse to talk to local authorities? Because every account I’ve read said that the authorities were called immediately and that it was only the press who Cheney has refused to talk to. So what evidence does O’Donnel offer for his theory?

Every lawyer I’ve talked to assumes Cheney was too drunk to talk to the cops after the shooting. The next question for the White House should be: Was Cheney drunk?

Right. Every lawyer Lawrence O’Donnel has talked to thinks Cheney was drunk. Well, I guess that’s our smoking gun right there.
Good job, Larry.

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  • http://Array melmat

    "Did Cheney really refuse to talk to local authorities?" – Yeah, he did. The SS had informed the local authorities that they would be allowed an interview with Cheney Sunday morning. However, one officer heard there was a shooting at the Armstrong ranch, and went to the ranch to begin the investigation, as I assume was standard policy of the police department. He hadn’t gotten the word about the SS’s decision to delay.

    When the officer arrived at the ranch, he was denied acces to the property and to all involved with the incident. So, yes, the VP did refuse to talk to the authorities on Saturday evening.

  • Zsa Zsa

    At least Dick Cheney didn’t leave him for dead and go out to bar!

  • geo

    Damn Robert, You are confusing a good anti Bush story with FACTS. Now stop it!

  • WOOF

    "When first posted, NBC news quoted Katharine Armstrong as saying:

    "There may be a beer or two in there," she said, "but remember not everyone in the party was shooting.".

    About an hour later, the quote was deleted from the story.

    The original text was captured by Google and you can see it here."

    http://www.thoughtcrimes.org/s9/index.php?/archives/519-Beer-comment-scrubbed-from-NBC-story.html 

  • http://limeshurbet.com/ Robert

    Apparently ‘ol Larry forgets that men with Cheney’s heart condition on heart medication are usually under doctor’s orders to refrain from drinking alcohol.

  • http://energycrisisnow.blogspot.com/ Rev.

    Cheney was merely following the established rules of engagement against enemy terrorist doves and quail. Any collateral damage, which has not yet been authoritatively confirmed, is sincerely to be regretted. The fault remains with dove and quail terrorists who chose to operate in the proximity of the alleged innocent victim. We must remain resolute in the war on terror

  • Bat One

    Ya know, through all the jokes, and the self-righteous indignation of the smarmy White House press corps, I haven’t seen anyone noting just how terrible Dick Cheeney is probably feeling about this.  Apparently everyone on that hunting party were old friends.  They had hunted together before, on that same ranch.

     

    I know it is not politically correct to assign genuine human emotion to middle-aged, white, male Republicans, but I’m sure he feels just terrible about this.  That the peanut gallery pooh-bahs of the press are apparently more concerned that no one called their personal cell phones, than how either Mr. Cheney or Mr. Whittington actually feels, says volumes about the shallow adolescents who fancy themselves the defenders of the First Amendment.

  • Bat One

    Mr. O’Donnell might hope that at least one of those lawyers he reports he has spoken to is more capable of intelligent thought than is Mr. O’Donnell.  Absent any evidence to support his now public conjecture, Mr. O’Donnell has comitted libel, that is, the willful printing or publishing of unsupported defammatory statements about Mr. Cheney.

     

    The pity is, the Vice President is probably too busy, and too gracious an individual to pursue O’Donnell’s outrageous accusations in court. 

  • http://www.ski-blog.comp/ Justin B

    Don,

    So you don’t get to decide when and if you talk to cops and Cheney is above the law?

    How about this guy?

    "Though authorities are reportedly interested in speaking with Tony Yayo about the murder of a man on the set of a Busta Rhymes video on Sunday morning, the G-Unit member’s lawyer said his client has nothing to say.

    …

    Leemon would not comment on his client’s whereabouts during the time of the shooting or his alleged actions on the set. "I have informed [the authorities] that I am his attorney and that we will not be making any statements to law enforcement. I say that because after what happened to Martha Stewart and Lil’ Kim, I don’t think any competent lawyer would allow his client to speak to authorities, and it’s not in [Yayo's] character to speak to the authorities."

    And this was a murder.  Cheney cannot be compelled to speak to police.  I would think you would know that.  He thinks he is above the law?  You mean below the law and not covered by the 5th Amendment?

  • WOOF

    "In an exclusive interview with Fox News’ Brit Hume this afternoon, Vice President Dick Cheney….

    according to Hume, in summaring the contents, the vice president remained "totally unapologetic" about the long lag in reporting the shooting to the public– and also said that he had consumed one beer at lunch thataccording to Hume, in summaring the contents, the vice president remained "totally unapologetic" about the long lag in reporting the shooting to the public– and also said that he had consumed one beer at lunch that day"

    http://www.dailykos.com/ 

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/ likwidshoe

    Don Myers says, Bat, if you shoot a guy in the face it is NOT a private matter. And you DON’T get to decide when and if you talk to the cops. Period.

    Somebody get a bib! This man is drooling and dribbling all over himself!

  • The.Whistler

    Either charge him with a crime or don’t.

    For the obsolete press being a Republican is a crime.  That’s what this comes down to. 

     

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/ likwidshoe

    according to Hume, in summaring the contents, the vice president remained "totally unapologetic"…

    Who cares? Find another dead horse to beat. This one is tired.

  • Robert Perry

    The biggest trouble with the theory, besides the fact that those on heart medication do have alcohol restrictions, is believing that people hunted with the veep knowing he was drunk–including the Secret Service.  Keep in mind that they’re tasked with protecting him not only from others (including fellow drunken hunters if applicable), but also himself.

    Given the reason Ford’s Theater was unprotected in 1865, I just don’t find this believeable.

    Hugh Hewitt’s interview with O’Donnell was hilarious, by the way….had O’Donnell trying to defend the fact that he was making ludicrous attacks fully sans evidence.  Didn’t appear to realize that you can’t say "it was only a weblog" when it’s personal credibility at stake.

  • The.Whistler

    A tin-foil bib.

  • Zsa Zsa

    Honestly, The Sheriff was called within 15 minutes. He didn’t leave the man for dead. Just because the press wasn’t called doesn’t mean anything! I am sure Dick Cheny feels horrible for what happened… Unlike a certain Senior Senator from Massachusetts who left a woman to drown!…AND not only that but goes out and drinks even more???? The last I checked it is not a crime for the press to be excluded when an accident happens!… Usually the police or Sheriffs office informs the press of these matters…So for those who are trying to make this unfortunate hunting accident into something more! SORRY! NOT THIS TIME!…

  • WOOF

    "When first posted, NBC news quoted Katharine Armstrong as saying:

    "There may be a beer or two in there," she said, "but remember not everyone in the party was shooting.".

    About an hour later, the quote was deleted from the story.

    The original text was captured by Google and you can see it here."

    http://www.thoughtcrimes.org/s9/index.php?/archives/519-Beer-comment-scrubbed-from-NBC-story.html 

  • The.Whistler

    Don, your tinfoil underwear are showing.

     The press is not the authorities.

     

  • http://www.ski-blog.comp/ Justin B

    Wait, an accident happens and the first thing the Dems scream about is give the bastard a breathalizer?  He was probably drunk. 

    They are confused and have the wrong old white guy.  And Cheney didn’t kill anyone when he had his accident. 

  • http://www.captainnormal.org/ Don Myers

    As far as I can see, the only apology that is warranted is between Vice President Dick Cheney and Mr. Whittington.  And that is a private matter between the two friends, and is really no one else’s business.

    Bat, if you shoot a guy in the face it is NOT a private matter. And you DON’T get to decide when and if you talk to the cops. Period.

    Unless, of course, you believe that the Bush regime is above the law. They certainly feel that way.

    Of course, the delay was probably because it took 36 hours for someone to teach Dick Cheney the words, "I did something wrong." This whole regime has a bad to confuse never admitting errors with always being right.

  • http://peatbog.net/ Sphagnum

    You know what the big problem with all this is?  There is never going to be a shred of substantial evidence to suggest that Cheney had been drinking, yet to the left this will always be "vice president shot somebody while he was drunk" story.

    Well, he had had a drink several hours earlier by his own admission, but was he intoxicated? no… 

  • WOOF

    "When first posted, NBC news quoted Katharine Armstrong as saying:

    "There may be a beer or two in there," she said, "but remember not everyone in the party was shooting.".

    About an hour later, the quote was deleted from the story.

    The original text was captured by Google and you can see it here."

    http://www.thoughtcrimes.org/s9/index.php?/archives/519-Beer-comment-scrubbed-from-NBC-story.html 

  • http://www.ski-blog.comp/ Justin B

    Either charge him with a crime or don’t.  Not reporting what you did over the weekend is not a crime.  The press are not entitled to this information.  I know it pisses them off to not get every juicy detail the second that it happens, but so what.

    And it is not a crime to not speak to police.  Matter of fact, I believe there is an Amendment that states that.  Cheney does not have to be "guilty" of something to not want to talk to the media or the police.  He just happens to not particullarly like speaking to the media, and given the state of the witch hunt the Dems are on to destroy the Bush administration, one would think that this would be a normal reaction.  Being a public figure does not mean required to report on every detail of his life.

    But I am sure that the Leftist media and Daily Kos will try to dig up photos of Cheney with Abramoff hunting.  That is why Cheney does not want to talk about it is that he was hunting with Abramoff and the Leadership of Haliburton on how to fleece the American public and start a war for oil and how to help certain Indian tribes maintain their Casino monopoly while pounding back 30 beers or so and hunting humans as the ultimate prey. 

    Where is the story here?  Simple hunting accident.  Happens all the time. 

  • Bat One

    As far as I can see, the only apology that is warranted is between Vice President Dick Cheney and Mr. Whittington.  And that is a private matter between the two friends, and is really no one else’s business.

     The idea that Mr. Cheney owes the press some sort of apology is sanctimonious nonsense. 

  • Carol

    To quote Grandma, "Things happen to the hot shots just like they do the poor guy."

  • WOOF

    "When first posted, NBC news quoted Katharine Armstrong as saying:

    "There may be a beer or two in there," she said, "but remember not everyone in the party was shooting.".

    About an hour later, the quote was deleted from the story.

    The original text was captured by Google and you can see it here."

    http://www.thoughtcrimes.org/s9/index.php?/archives/519-Beer-comment-scrubbed-from-NBC-story.html 

  • 2Hotel9

    According to the Sheriff’s report no one was intoxicated, and this was ruled an accident. And no, donnie&woofie, I ain’t playing linktag. You know how to research, find it yourselves. Do you even know the name of the local paper who"broke" this story on their blog? I do.

  • Michigan-Matt

    Justin B, was that a slam of Teddy-Chappaquiddick-Kennedy?  Or are you talking about the time Kennedy lay drunk in his West Palm Beach mansion while his nephew raped a guest near the seawall?  Or are you talking about the time Ethel Kennedy was bombed out of her gourd in her house while her drunken nephew killed a neighbor with a golf club?  Or are you talking about the time SlickWilly lost his balance while drunk and carrying a hooker piggyback down the stairs at Greg Norman’s home?

    Which was one was it?

  • richard

    Wish that was all that was needed to prove libel

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    And you DON’T get to decide when and if you talk to the cops. Period.

    So what ever happened to "You have the right to remain silent?" 

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    Bat, if you shoot a guy in the face it is NOT a private matter. And you DON’T get to decide when and if you talk to the cops. Period.

    Bat wasn’t talking about the cops, he was talking about the press.  Get a grip.

    You know what the big problem with all this is?  There is never going to be a shred of substantial evidence to suggest that Cheney had been drinking, yet to the left this will always be "vice president shot somebody while he was drunk" story.

    Because facts don’t matter, only whatever innuendo can be passed of as believable for the sake of smearing one’s political enemies.

    Pathetic. 

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