Warren Buffet To Democrats: The Rich Need To Pay More In Taxes

Sure. It’s easy for one of the richest and most powerful men in the world to call for “the rich” to pay more in taxes, and certainly the Democrats love using Buffet and his tax demands as propaganda for their soak-the-rich fiscal policies, but let’s keep in mind that by “the rich” the Democrats don’t just mean the super-rich like Buffet.

Warren Buffett, the renowned investor and the world’s second richest man, told Senate Democrats that wealthy Americans need to pay higher taxes, giving Democrats something to mull as they address healthcare reform and soaring federal deficits.
Senate Democrats met with Buffett for more than an hour over lunch Thursday, peppering him with questions about the economy, said lawmakers in attendance.
“He said rich people are not paying enough taxes,” said Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.). “It was interesting to see someone who is such an aggressive capitalist, who believes so much in our capitalist system, saying we’ve got the scales way too heavily toward people who are very, very wealthy.”
Buffett told lawmakers that because of the cuts to the capital gains tax passed under former President George W. Bush, he pays taxes at a lower rate than some of his company’s employees.
It is an argument the investor has made before. Buffett said he paid a 16.5 percent tax rate on all his income because the tax rate on investment dividends and long-term capital gains is only 15 percent.

Warren Buffet is less an adviser for Democrats than he is a walking talking point. Challenge the Democrats on their plans to try and make a small percentage of the population pay for almost all the government and they immediately jabbering about Buffet. “He’s a capitalist,” they say. “He likes big taxes, why don’t the Republicans get on board?”
The problem, first of all, is that Buffet is no capitalist. He’s a rent-seeker who made his fortune exploiting the tax code as leverage for his take overs.
The second problem is that our government doesn’t suffer from a paucity of funding. Our government suffers from a spending addiction. We don’t need to increase revenues to the government. We need to decrease expenditures.
We simply cannot afford more government. Our economy cannot afford the taxes Buffet and his fellow liberals want us to pay (remember that “the rich” the want to pay more taxes are often the very business owners we also want to start hiring people again). We cannot afford to take more money out of the economy and put it into the government. We cannot afford more government, period.
The intent here in using Buffet is to play the class warfare game. The Democrats want to raise taxes without inciting a public backlash, so why not raise them on the rich? After all, there’s nobody more unsympathetic than some rich guy, right? The problem is that every dollar the government takes out of the economy, whether it comes from “the rich” or “the poor,” is one less dollar that could go toward the sort of economic activity that generates prosperity and puts people to work.

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  • http://Array Name

    Cause Warren Buffet is a fraud and a liar, just like most dems and Obama.

    How easy it to expose Buffet’s trickery here? This easy: Buffet’s employees pay income taxes. Warren Buffet pays capital gains taxes. Capital gains tax rates are lower than income tax rates. Nice trick … and he can only pull it off because of the economic ignorance of the American people and the willing compliance of the leftist media.

    The dirty secret in AMerica is that the Wealthy pay MORE then their share and that the poor need to start paying their fair share.

    the top 1% of income earners in this country earn about 20% of income while paying about 40% of income taxes. Oh …. and providing a huge chunk of all jobs in the process.

  • sayanything-2

    Why doesn’t Warren pay more? Why does he have 5 law firms working full time to cut the amount he pays?

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    The secret isn’t that the rich pay all the taxes. The secret is who we define as “rich”.

    The tax code is complicated for a reason. Namely, so we don’t realize how much we really pay in taxes. Ill bet most could tell you how much of a tax refund they got. I doubt they could tell you how much they paid even after that refund.

  • sayanything-7743

    “…he pays taxes at a lower rate than some of his company’s employees…”

    Well maybe Mr. Buffet’s employees should begin acquiring assets which generate income that is taxed as capital gains rather than ordinary income. His employees may have to take some responsibility for their own financial futures and learn about capital gains taxes, which investments qualify, etc and they may have to make some sacrifices and save their money to acquire such assets. I know it is hard to believe, but you always do not have to have the latest IPod, the latest sneakers design, lattes everyday, etc.

  • indy4life

    A fraud and a liar. Indeed.

    Do you think that the 140,000 people who make up the top .1% of earners are all liberals or might there be some of that trickery on the part of a conservative or two? That group earns about 12% of income and pays 21+% in taxes. Simple math indicates that the top .1% are richer than the top 1%, so your argument about the poor paying their fair share already applies. Unless you define poor as something other than having less money.

    And your assertion that the rich paying more taxes is some kind of dirty secret is absurd. High school kids learn that fact in their government studies classes.

    Nice effort on bringing the Democrats and Obama into the discussion. One of the main principles of conservatism is not blaming others and taking responsibility for yourself.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    Stop making so much sense. Its inconvenient for the liberals.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    I think it is every individual’s responsibility to pay as little in taxes as possible.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    Because hed rather have everyone else pay more.

  • http://Array DINO

    Quite the quandary for conservatives, eh?

    One the one hand, Buffet is rich and so an object of adulation and worship, on the other hand, his ideas challenge that wealth-worship so central to the con-surgent mentality.

    Well, perhaps his call for higher taxes on the rich is due to his being a “loser”, filled with jealous rage over the wealth of others.

    LOL

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    Duh, only individuals ultimately pay taxes.

  • http://pocketjacksblog.blogspot.com/ Jay W.

    I’m not a lawyer, but I don’t think there’s any U.S. law preventing Mr. Buffett from giving more than 16.5% of his wealth to the Treasury.

  • http://thenewotforum.myfreeforum.org/index.php Lord_of_the_Norge

    Warren Buffett has some great quotes. My personal favorite is “Our favorite holding period is forever”. Good advice Warren.

    I wonder if you asked Warren straight out, if you could only choose one answer, if raising taxes or lowering spending was best for economic growth, what he’d say?

    Here’s another one of his good quotes:
    “We do not want our country to evolve into a Banana Republic , Congress must end the rise of the debt to GDP ratio and keep our growth in obligations in line with our growth in resources”

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    Warren is always wrong when it comes to public policy.

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    I wonder if you asked Warren straight out, if you could only choose one answer, if raising taxes or lowering spending was best for economic growth, what he’d say?

    If history is any guide we’d all realize that no higher tax is ever going to balance the budget. That’s because spending discipline goes out the window.

  • robert108

    Warren is certainly free to give more of his own money to Obama’s greedy govt.

  • http://www.valleydeals.com/cgi-bin/board2/YaBB.pl Kevin

    Warren probably thinks advocating higher taxes will be his ticket into heaven or else he is very guilty about something.
    I noticed he lost 20% of his net worth in the last 12 months, so take any of his investment advice with a grain of salt these days.

  • DINO

    The accusation that liberals want others to pay without paying themselves is a bit disengenous for many reasons.

    Liberals pay taxes, too.

    Conservatives use the resources of society and services of government just as much, if not more than anyone else. Just look at the amount of money conservative states get for what they pay in federal taxes. I’m sure I don’t need to post those numbers again.

    No, the best analogy for a conservative is the guy who eats out with a group, orders the most expensive food, has the most drinks, and then, when the check arrives, is hiding in the bathroom until everyone else pays the check.

  • http://pocketjacksblog.blogspot.com/ Jay W.

    No, the best analogy for a conservative is the guy who eats out with a group, orders the most expensive food, has the most drinks, and then, when the check arrives, is hiding in the bathroom until everyone else pays the check.

    And the best analogy for a liberal is the guy who volunteers to pay for everybody. Then when you get home you realize your wallet is missing.

  • DINO

    Ah, the con-surgents. Despite all the damage done by 30 years of supply-side tax policy, they still want to play “aspirational politics”.

    That is when the con-surgent erroneously believes he will get rich soon and when he arrives, does not want to pay taxes.

    It has served them so well to this point! LOL

  • http://pocketjacksblog.blogspot.com/ Jay W.

    I can only speak for myself, but I don’t believe I’ll be rich soon. I’ve wanted my taxes to be lower ever since I first saw the deductions from my paycheck at my first job (when I was 16). I want them to be lower now. Now matter what my income level is going forward I’ll always want them to be lower as long as there is tax money being spent frivolously or inefficiently.

    Wanting lower taxes isn’t a position born from being a rich conservative. It’s a postion born from being a fiscal conservative, period.

  • DINO

    It’s from a position of being an irresponsible deadbeat.

    Tax cuts have played a very large role in our present predicament.

    What do you con-surgents propose we use to pay for your fabulous military, your wars, your insatiable hunger to escalate the invasion of Afghanistan, your desire to start a war with Iran, the building of military bases in Columbia and all the other places on the globe?

    Perhaps you think we can simply do these things and finance them with AIR from your asses?

  • http://pocketjacksblog.blogspot.com/ Jay W.

    It’s from a position of being an irresponsible deadbeat.

    So wanting lower taxes is the position of a deadbeat, but wanting other peoples’ taxes raised (don’t worry — it’s only the rich!) isn’t? That’s so illogical I don’t se how you can type it with a straight face, really.

    Buffet doesn’t think your taxes should be raised Jay W.

    And I don’t want anybody’s taxes raised. The problem with justifying taxes by saying, “don’t worry, only the rich will have to pay more” is that ‘rich’ tends to get redefined downward with such regularity. Before the last campaign we were talking about rich as those making $500,000. Now it’s $250,000.

    When government grows to the point that taxing the $250,000 and up crowd doesn’t get the job done anymore, it’ll be the $100,000 crowd’s turn. Then the $75,000.

    What many people seem to be overlooking is that government doesn’t get smaller. It only grows.

  • DINO

    Before the conservative revolution infected us, the amount of federal revenue from individuals was around 40% with corporate taxes and fees making up the rest. Over the past decades, the burden on individuals is now around 75%.

    Combine that with the fact that the rich have received enormous tax cuts and you can see why the stupid middle class feels so burdened. They are forced to pick up the slack.

    But, this is what they voted for when the republicans promised them the world for free! And still, the middle class blames the poor for their troubles. Soon, they will join the poor.

    Now, they get to struggle both with higher taxes AND decreased services. That’s why the middle class kids graduate from state colleges owing tens of thousands. Why the ones who don’t seek education can’t find decent jobs. Why teabaggers are so pissed that they got nothing for their support of republicans.

    I predicted this in the early 80s and am totally vindicated today.

    In 2 more decades, this “shining city on a hill” will be on FIRE.

    Thank you, conservatism, for your hard work in bringing this about!

  • WOOFX

    Buffet doesn’t think your taxes should be raised Jay W.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    Buffet doesn’t think your taxes should be raised Jay W.

    And that’s the line the Democrats have so much success with, no?

    The liberals will bring us all sorts of government goodies, and it’s always somebody else who will pay.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    Well, perhaps his call for higher taxes on the rich is due to his being a “loser”, filled with jealous rage over the wealth of others.

    Actually, I think it has to do with higher taxes being good for Buffets bottom line.

    Taking advantage of market distortions created by government policy is how Buffet made his fortune.

    As I said in the post, he’s no capitalist.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    I’m not a lawyer, but I don’t think there’s any U.S. law preventing Mr. Buffett from giving more than 16.5% of his wealth to the Treasury.

    There isn’t.

    And that’s the problem with liberals. They don’t want to just go out and pay for the things they want done. They want to make you do it for them.

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