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What is your opinion of Ed Schaefer’s plagerism?  Should he apologize to the website whose information he ripped off and didn’t give credit to?

"All the perplexities, confusion and distress in America arise not from defects in their Constitution or Confederation, nor from want of honor or virtue, so much as downright ignorance of the nature of coin, credit and circulation.”
- John Adams

Who is Ed Schaefer?

The war against illegal plunder has been fought since the beginning of the world. But how is… legal plunder to be identified? Quite simply. See if the law takes from some persons what belongs to them, and gives it to other persons to whom it does not belong. See if the law benefits one citizen at the expense of another by doing what the citizen himself cannot do without committing a crime. Then abolish this law without delay … If such a law is not abolished immediately it will spread, multiply and develop into a system.

Frédéric Bastiat, The Law

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What is your opinion of Ed Schafer’s plagerism?  Should he apologize to the website whose information he ripped off and didn’t give credit to?

Should he apologize on both counts?  If someone were to find all the back issues of the Dakota Beacon; has every article been plagiarized?  What kind of Editor is Steve Cates?  Should Steve Cates apologize for printing plagiarized articles?

I think so!

"All the perplexities, confusion and distress in America arise not from defects in their Constitution or Confederation, nor from want of honor or virtue, so much as downright ignorance of the nature of coin, credit and circulation.”
- John Adams

Ed Who?

Is the original author complaining?

Did Ed whatever tell his reputed victim to fuck off?

Ed WHO?

Rob, if this is the best your trolls can do, you need some new ones. I think I can spare a couple from Wizbang…

J.

What is your opinion of Ed Schafer’s plagerism?

What’s “plagerism?”

As for Ed Schafer’s plagiarism, it was an honest mistake.  He researched a very small piece about an old submarine, didn’t quite change the wording enough from the original source, and got caught doing it.

Afterward he admitted he was wrong and apologized, unlike the folks at Walton & Johnson.  It was a rather small gaffe for someone with a resume as extensive and beyond reproach as Schafer’s.

Though it’s not surprising that a small-minded twit like you would bring it up in a totally unrelated context as though it were somehow a commentary on me or this current situation.

If someone were to find all the back issues of the Dakota Beacon; has every article been plagiarized?

Given how influential the Beacon has become in the state, and how desperate people like you are to try and smear anyone who disagrees with you, I’ve no doubt that this has been tried.  I know that my monthly contributions to the Beacon have never been plagiarized.

But, again, what Schafer, the Beacon and Steve Cates have to do with this current situation is beyond me.  I know you’re desperate, because I’m right about pretty much everything, but do try harder than this Troy.  It’s rather sad.

Ed Who?

Ed Schafer is our current Ag Secretary, as well as the former Governor of North Dakota and contributor to the Dakota Beacon magazine.  An in-state publication I still contribute to.

Troy, on the other hand, is himself a plagiarist who was once caught copying and pasting passages from scholarly works about the federal reserve and passing them off as his own.  He apparently sees no irony in complaining about something he himself is unrepentantly guilty of.

The war against illegal plunder has been fought since the beginning of the world. But how is… legal plunder to be identified? Quite simply. See if the law takes from some persons what belongs to them, and gives it to other persons to whom it does not belong. See if the law benefits one citizen at the expense of another by doing what the citizen himself cannot do without committing a crime. Then abolish this law without delay … If such a law is not abolished immediately it will spread, multiply and develop into a system.

Frédéric Bastiat, The Law

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He researched a very small piece about an old submarine, didn’t quite change the wording enough from the original source, and got caught doing it.

And what about the Fargo Motor Company?  Should we expect a second apology?

"All the perplexities, confusion and distress in America arise not from defects in their Constitution or Confederation, nor from want of honor or virtue, so much as downright ignorance of the nature of coin, credit and circulation.”
- John Adams

I know you’re desperate, because I’m right about pretty much everything,

not to mention arrogant..

"All the perplexities, confusion and distress in America arise not from defects in their Constitution or Confederation, nor from want of honor or virtue, so much as downright ignorance of the nature of coin, credit and circulation.”
- John Adams

Anyone notice that Troy doesn’t deny that he plagerized.  He just keeps asking questions in an attempt to change the subject.

A political party cannot be all things to all people. It must represent certain fundamental beliefs which must not be compromised to political expediency, or simply to swell its numbers.

I have fully admitted to plagiarizing in the past

"All the perplexities, confusion and distress in America arise not from defects in their Constitution or Confederation, nor from want of honor or virtue, so much as downright ignorance of the nature of coin, credit and circulation.”
- John Adams

Would you like to discuss my plagiarism?  I would be happy to.  This is a discussion on plagiarism, right?

"All the perplexities, confusion and distress in America arise not from defects in their Constitution or Confederation, nor from want of honor or virtue, so much as downright ignorance of the nature of coin, credit and circulation.”
- John Adams

Funny, I thought it was about me horning my way into Pilgrim’s fight with Walton and Johnson, and siccing Lair Simon on their asses, too.

After all, EVERYTHING is about me.

I have a certificate that says so.

(I plagiarized it from Karl Rove.)

J.

is pineri serious?! On man. He’s been posting everywhere about this Shafer guy, which has ZERO to do with the topic at hand, and he himself is a plagiarist?! Apparently an extreme hypocrite as well. Rob, Jay is right, the caliber of troll around here is pathetic, you need to get yourself a barney or lee!!

I have fully admitted to plagiarizing in the past

If you did then my bad.  But I don’t think that you the Walton and Johnson situation is the same thing as Secretary Schafer.

A political party cannot be all things to all people. It must represent certain fundamental beliefs which must not be compromised to political expediency, or simply to swell its numbers.

Seriously, Rob and Pilgrim, I was partly motivated by friendship and camaraderie, partly out of vindictiveness against plagiarists, but partly out of enlightened self-interest.

Pilgrim, our styles are similar enough that there is probably a great deal of overlap between our fans. That means, to me, that anyone who sees your stuff and likes it enough to rip it off would likely be inclined to do the same to my stuff. So if I can help squash that type of person BEFORE he gets to ripping me off, then I’m that much safer.

Plus there’s the “Don Corleone” factor. Remember how he did all those favors for people, saying “there may come a day when I will come to you needing a service.” I’m not quite so formal, but I know there will be times in the future when I will be the one who could use a hand. Before that day comes, I intend to salt the blogosphere with my own pre-emptive favors so when I do come hat in hand, more folks will be inclined to help me out. Again, enlightened self-interest.

It’s already happened a couple of times, and I have no doubt on my ability to put myself in a position where I’ll need it again.

So again, congrats. I don’t know how much of a role anything I did (if any) played in the resolution, but I am moderately proud of my efforts.

And most importantly, it was FUN.

And ain’t that why we do this, largely?

J.

I have fully admitted to plagiarizing in the past

I dunno. I never heard you apologize to me for ripping off my Gadsden flag parody!
And despite what Jay Tee says, it’s really all about me!

Those who think the party or the country, will be “taught a lesson” by handing the levers of power over to the liberals will learn a lesson, but it will be at the expense of our country and her liberties. And there are no guarantees that the party or the country will come out stronger, more conservative or better positioned to win elections against the incumbent liberals.

I dunno. I never heard you apologize to me for ripping off my Gadsden flag parody!

You’re right, I apologize to you Proof, I will work to correct it! Thanks!

"All the perplexities, confusion and distress in America arise not from defects in their Constitution or Confederation, nor from want of honor or virtue, so much as downright ignorance of the nature of coin, credit and circulation.”
- John Adams