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Of course, it just makes sense in a growing economy.  The class-envy crowd is trying to sell us the old Marxist poop about the capital vs labor lie; that the “workers” aren’t getting any benefit from the good economy, which might be true if we were a socialist economy, but we aren’t.  The economy is doing well because of the efforts of all the individual citizens.  Duh.

"If the good men are silent only the wicked are heard.” - Edmund Burke

Growing Economy

LOL

"All the perplexities, confusion and distress in America arise not from defects in their Constitution or Confederation, nor from want of honor or virtue, so much as downright ignorance of the nature of coin, credit and circulation.”
- John Adams

Woof, real wages doesn’t take into account growth in compensation in the form of health benefits, etc.

Why don’t you be honest and find a chart for total compensation?

Troy: Just because you don’t want to believe that there’s a growing economy doesn’t make it any less true.

The war against illegal plunder has been fought since the beginning of the world. But how is… legal plunder to be identified? Quite simply. See if the law takes from some persons what belongs to them, and gives it to other persons to whom it does not belong. See if the law benefits one citizen at the expense of another by doing what the citizen himself cannot do without committing a crime. Then abolish this law without delay … If such a law is not abolished immediately it will spread, multiply and develop into a system.

Frédéric Bastiat, The Law

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Troy? Did the evil Republicans cut your welfare check? Boohoo.

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growth in compensation in the form of health benefits,

Who is getting more health benefits?  Most Americans are losing benefits or are required to pay a larger share of the premium.

"All the perplexities, confusion and distress in America arise not from defects in their Constitution or Confederation, nor from want of honor or virtue, so much as downright ignorance of the nature of coin, credit and circulation.”
- John Adams

Troy, the numbers quoted in the post would tend to show that you’re just plain wrong:

For the third quarter, benefit costs rose by 1.1 percent, up from a 0.8 percent gain in the second quarter. Wages and salaries were up 0.9 percent, matching the increase in the second quarter.

Businesses are spending more on benefits.

Maybe you’re relying too much on what politicians tell you instead of reality.  Now if we could get health care prices back down by making individuals more responsible for paying for their own health care (I’m thinking health savings accounts) we’d really be getting somewhere.

The war against illegal plunder has been fought since the beginning of the world. But how is… legal plunder to be identified? Quite simply. See if the law takes from some persons what belongs to them, and gives it to other persons to whom it does not belong. See if the law benefits one citizen at the expense of another by doing what the citizen himself cannot do without committing a crime. Then abolish this law without delay … If such a law is not abolished immediately it will spread, multiply and develop into a system.

Frédéric Bastiat, The Law

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Businesses are spending more on benefits.

Who is spending more?

Maybe you’re relying too much on what politicians tell you instead of reality.

The Irony

"All the perplexities, confusion and distress in America arise not from defects in their Constitution or Confederation, nor from want of honor or virtue, so much as downright ignorance of the nature of coin, credit and circulation.”
- John Adams

The lefties have to lie about the economy because they are emotionally unable to admit that our President has had any success at all.  Because they are arrogant elitists, like Seymour Hersh, they think we will swallow any old crap that they put out, because we are so ignorant.
Here’s the bottom line: Workers who make more money buy more and better stuff; therefore, it is in the best interest of businesses to have more productive workers who make(because of their efforts, not govt mandates) more money.  The only people who want a large “worker class” are the Marxists, who need to have a large portion of the population dependent on govt.

"If the good men are silent only the wicked are heard.” - Edmund Burke

The President/Fed Reserve has to lie about the economy because they are emotionally unable to admit that our economic system is crashing.  Because they are arrogant elitists, like Seymour Hersh, they think we will swallow any old crap that they put out, because we are so ignorant.
Here’s the bottom line: Workers who borrow more money buy more and better stuff; therefore, it is in the best interest of businesses to offer more credit, and financing, and lower interest rates, over longer peoriods of time, so they can make(because of their efforts, not govt mandates) more money. No one in American govt wants to tell the truth, because who wants their legacy to be the same as Hoover’s.

"All the perplexities, confusion and distress in America arise not from defects in their Constitution or Confederation, nor from want of honor or virtue, so much as downright ignorance of the nature of coin, credit and circulation.”
- John Adams

Troy: Nice Marxist talking points!  Can’t you be a bit more original?  At least acknowledge where you got the substance of your comment(with the insertion of your own lies in place of the truth).  Shame on you!

"If the good men are silent only the wicked are heard.” - Edmund Burke

Troy is truly a sad, pathetic piece of crap.

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Robert108,

Forget Troy.  What he understands about economics isn’t worth the cost of 3X5 card it would take to write it on… in crayon.

WOOF,

Your chart is of some interest, not least because of the marked decline in private sector benefits it displays starting with Mr. Clinton’s inauguration.  Do you suppose that had anything to do with his promised middle class tax cuts that became tax hikes as soon as he took office?  It would certainly appear to be a causal relationship.

If that’s the case, please explain how our economy and our workers can afford any more such cuts in private sector benefits when the Democrats start raising taxes again.  Particularly as the working population is aging and baby boomers are closing in on retirement.  If the economy really is anywhere near as weak and fragile as you lefties have claimed, the last thing the American worker needs is more enforced “sacrifices” for your mythical “common good.”

Bat: Thanks for the support.  Troy’s deficiencies in economics knowledge are painfully obvious.

If the economy really is anywhere near as weak and fragile as you lefties have claimed, the last thing the American worker needs is more enforced “sacrifices” for your mythical “common good.”

Sounds a lot like Stalin’s “Five Year Plans”, which went on for decades.  The Dems definitely have their script for this country.

"If the good men are silent only the wicked are heard.” - Edmund Burke

You guys on here are deficient in economics.. the world is changing and your view is so myopic your about ready to get your ass handed to you.. the funny thing is you’ll wish there was more bread lines when your out on the street

"All the perplexities, confusion and distress in America arise not from defects in their Constitution or Confederation, nor from want of honor or virtue, so much as downright ignorance of the nature of coin, credit and circulation.”
- John Adams

Troy: Nice leftie vision for America.  Thanks for being truthful about where you stand.  What are you doing about it, besides plagiarizing my words?

"If the good men are silent only the wicked are heard.” - Edmund Burke

Poor little Troy, can’t get a job that does not involve a deepfryer. Your precious Marxist/Socialist ideology is the only thing that will bring on another Great Depression, so when you go to bed tonight make sure to include that in your prayers to Engals.

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You guys on here are deficient in economics.. the world is changing and your view is so myopic your about ready to get your ass handed to you.

Troy,

Leaving aside your modest grammatical skills, I would be interested in a substantive demonstration of your superior economic knowledge.  If your current commentary and prognostication are any indication, there is little to be gained by further embarrassing yourself.

Still, being a principled conservative I’m willing to acknowledge an error on my part if you’re capable of providing me a suitable reason.

This ought to be good.

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This ought to be good.

2Hotel9,

I doubt it will worth missing those re-runs of

Bonanza

Happy Days

It appears he took his “employees” and went to bed. I actually skipped waiting for his indepth and scintillating economics dissertaion to go watch Southpark.

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