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It’d be funny if it were so pathetic.

“weren’t”

Doh.

Thanks, fixing it.

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

-- Thomas Jefferson

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This pathetic bit of high-minded nonsense, by people who ought to be able to consider themselves adults, reads like a chapter out of George Orwell’s Animal Farm.

Obviously the University of Rhode Island needs to consider some serious remedial coursework in Civics, or some serious refunds of tuition.

“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Do you suppose that the student senate was able to explain why this scholarship was so bad and the other scholarships that actually excluded people were good?

Or did they just give that up as too hard for their little brains.

What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.

Dude.
“Kicked off campus” is a bit different than “derecognizing” wouldn’t you agree? Who cares if the SGA (student government) recognizes a club. It doesn’t make it not a club. I was in a club at school that the SGA didn’t recognize. All that means is they can’t order you around, make you have a certain amount of members, and make you submit reports. That consideration doesn’t go with your white male victim position here though. D’oh. The SGA really provides crap funding too. The club I was in got a ton of funding outside the SGA and… we did scholarships. The only thing this group needs to do is do a little fund raising and raise the amount on the scholarship. Duh. Put away your hankie.

Seeking alternative funding wouldn’t allow them to remain such passive victims. They might have to give up the Dem act and do some work.

Where is the ACLU now?

Sparkie,

The hankie isn’t the point.  And neither are the scholarships, the reports, or the crappy funding.  The point is the systemic pattern of ideological intolerance by the very folks who bray about the myth of collegiate tolerance.

If the URI GOP Club had any serious stones, they’d send out speaking engagement invitations to Ann Coulter, Jim Gilchrist, and Karl Rove… then organize a legal defense fund-raiser for Scooter Libby.

“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Bat
That’s all I’m saying. I don’t like Coulter or Rove and don’t think they do anything positive for the party in general… but whatever. They should just let this incident be fire under their ass instead of whining about how its unfair. College students are pretty suceptible to the ‘fair’ whining…

Republicans are pro the ability to self determine. They should do just that. Why don’t they just do like that Iranian and take advantage of it?

Bat

Obviously the University of Rhode Island needs to consider some serious remedial coursework in Civics, or some serious refunds of tuition.

No they don’t. The school is unranked. It sucks. Most highschools are probably more rigorous.

This is yet another Stalinist attempt to suppress a diversity of ideas.  This is the real leftie agenda, btw.

If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

The SGA can do what it wants. These people are being whiners and victims. You’re right r108. The lefty agenda to the ‘t’.

Sparkie,

The tuition refund suggestion was only rhetorical… as you well know.

Nor am I remotely concerned with any notion of “fairness,” a despicable and dangerous word, in my humble estimation.  But liberals ought to be held to account for what they say, as are the rest of us.  Inclusiveness does not mean that an “appropriate” percent of the subject population, say 12-15%, is black.

And in an educational situation, and one that is an arm of the government to boot, it is all the more important to try and foster a little integrity among those in control.

“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Sparkie: As usual, when you attempt to speak for me, you lie.  Reporting injustice and bias is not being a whiner or a victim.  It is simply the truth.

If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

The SGA can do what it wants.

Sparkie,

I don’t think so.  URI is an arm of the state government, not a private institution.  It is at least partially funded by state taxpayers.  If a private institution, such a Liberty or Bob Jones wants to exercise this sort of “content control” there’s no question that it should be able to do so.  At least so long as it is willing to bear the opprobrium.

But private behavior and that of public or government entities are, and ought to be, held to a different, less hypocritical and more tolerant standard.

URI may well be a third-rate university… or worse.  But that is no excuse for allowing third-rate political correctness to govern such decisions as this.

“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

That excludes Mary Cheney.  She’s white, she’s ‘Republican,’ but not quite male.  She gets a waiver on the heterosexual qualification since she is ‘Republican.’

I dunno what he/she is. 

That’s about it.

RW
Oh.

Bat
The SGA should be able to do what it wants. My mistake. This whole thing is foolish. Affirmative action is an appeal to fairness. Appeals to fairness are crap. The GOP club needs some other financial backing beside the SGA. Period. Freedom follows from that.

Affirmative action is an appeal to fairness.

Wrong.  It’s an appeal to equal outcome.

If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

Affirmative action is an appeal to fairness. Appeals to fairness are crap.

Sparkie,

Of course they are.  No argument at all.  But those who say they’re crap should not be singled out and punished by an arm of government for having done so.

Look, the SGA actions is essentially no different than the state raising the taxes for those whose political or ideological beliefs were considered politically incorrect by some bureaucrat.

Neither you, nor I, nor the GOP club should be punished for saying that affirmative action is crap. And that is exactly what has happened.

“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Affirmative action is an appeal to fairness.

Wrong. It’s an appeal to equal outcome.

Oh. You sure set me straight.

Fairness?  What is fair about discriminating against one ethnicity in order to favor another?  Even if said discrimination/favor is a well-intentioned effort to rectify past inequalities?

Is favoritism one way is bad, it’s bad the other way as well.

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

-- Thomas Jefferson

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Affirmative Action is the most racist policy EVAR!

I wouldn’t go that far but it’s as racist in attitudes as Jim Crow.

What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.

Whistle...How is it Not racist?  Is it ok to discriminate against white and not black?

It’s racist as hell, but not as racist as slavery and only somewhat equal to the jim crow era.

Even that is somewhat an exaggeration because so far whites haven’t been treated as bad.

What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.

I wonder if they’ll get rid of affirmative action when us whities are a minority? My other half, a latino, is pro economic affirmative action and anti racial affirmative action. I don’t agree with her, but it does remove race from the equation.

Every day white males are refused scholarships and job opportunities even though their scores are higher and their qualifications are better. Wouldn’t it be better to allow PEOPLE to be people no matter what their color? The only slavery that exists today is the Government programs that chain our citizens to welfare for generations. AND those people are not only black… Affirmative action is not an answer.

I wonder if they’ll get rid of affirmative action when us whities are a minority?

Sparkie,

Oh, are you a white male?  How is that fact relevant?

“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Zsa zsa
You are mistaken. Affirmative action says that when people are equally qualified the minorities will get preference. Many schools are not ‘need blind’ so paying for it has a lot to do with it.

Affirmative action says that when people are equally qualified the minorities will get preference.

I don’t think that’s true.  Affirmative action seems to be more about entering false ratings in order to make some minorities qualified when they are not.

What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.

Does “ equal qualified” mean test scores? IF so my son was discriminated against.

My son was denied a scholarship even though his scores and grade point average were higher than 2 blacks and 1 asian...That’s affirmative action for ya!

Clear discrimination.

What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.

TW
I disagree. I have spent time looking into affirmative action before and know what of I speak.

Does “ equal qualified” mean test scores? IF so my son was discriminated against.

No. It means test scores, GPA, resume, community service, writing sample, quality of secondary school, recommendaiton letters, et cetera. It means ‘equally qualified’.

Sparkie Arbuckle said, Seeking alternative funding wouldn’t allow them to remain such passive victims. They might have to give up the Dem act and do some work.

I doubt they feel like victims. Rather, this exercise was carried out to show hypocrisy. Nothing more, nothing less.

These people are being whiners and victims.

Project much?

That was just my experience with affirmative action. He got another scholarship for National merit scholar finalist. It just wasn’t a full scholarship. AND he worked very hard for the other and was clearly discriminated against because he was a white male. NO doubt about it!

Lik
Woah. Rob says, “kicked out” and he’s blowing it out of proportion. I’m just pushing back.

Sparkie ...Honest to goodness, IF anyone had all those credits to their name? It was my son. I don’t think I am being totally partial either. I really can’t believe he is my child he is so good and smart and handsome and wonderful!

Zsa zsa
Not picking on you or your son. I’m sure he’s a bright guy. Just clarifying the definition of affirmative action. Whites with applications should be chosen… unless there are toher reasons. A crappy school who thinks a better school will admit somebody may reject them to give someone else a chance. Who knows what schools think. I did well on my last round of apps for grad school. Got into BC, BU, UM, UMaryland, Temple, and a couple others…

Sparkie...This particular scholarship was one that was from the company my husband works for.  The kids all went to the same high school. There was no doubt why he lost out on that particular scholarship. It was 1999 so maybe that was why? Who knows?

Zsa zsa
Screwed up. Maybe the relationship prevented it. Maybe they didn’t want to appear nepotistic or conflicted.

I know one of the kids parents worked there. I am not sure about the others?

Zsa zsa
Sounds like your son is my age. Plus or minus a year or two. I hope he’s recovered and is out there kicking ass somewhere. Also - lots of scholarships are need based. Perhaps the others had more ‘need’? I don’t know…

He turned 26 the other day. He has WILLisms.com. and he is a political consultant. He is pretty awesome if you ask me?…

My 26th is a week from friday.

I could be your mother! HA…

Does that mean your birthday is May1? That is my birthday…

First--to ZZ,

Just stop.  First, you tell me that Will was a National Merit Finalist (I was only a semifinalist) and second, I get to read his blog all the time and usually, I feel worse afterward because he is A. smarter than me and B. makes all these pretty little graphs.  Then you gotta come back and say that he is 26.  And he has a better looking dog than mine.  Heidi is what really hurts the most…

My other half, a latino, is pro economic affirmative action and anti racial affirmative action. I don’t agree with her, but it does remove race from the equation.

We already do.  They are called Pell Grants and Stafford Loans. 

I agree in large part with this sentiment.  I cannot see how Barack Obama’s kids are more deserving of a scholarship than Joe Sixpack in the trailer park.  Take Joy’s kids from My Name Is Earl.  Should Earl Junior get a scholarship since Crabman is his dad, but Dodge not get one because his dad was white (and drove a Ford, hence the name)?  Same house, same mom.  One’s dad is black and the other’s is white.  One of them gets racial preference scholarships, but the other doesn’t.

It is enough to get me to change my name to “Jamal Jesus Roosevelt Hernandez Chang”.  If I could only find a way to be a black, Chinese, Hispanic woman I would totally be hooked.

Zsa zsa
April 27th.

Justin...Heidi is the cutest!  AND I don’t know how I ended up with such a brilliant child? Actually, I do. My husband is just like him in the brain department. Sometimes I will be talking to him and it is just like talking to my husband...Thanks man!

Sparkie, I noticed after I said that. I had to look at my crossword to figure it out. Happy Birthday almost!

So if you are 26, you must be almost ready to graduate from the community college and maybe even move out of your mom’s basement.

It is a rough world out there big fella.  When I moved out of Mom’s place last year, it was tough to make it on my own.  I didn’t realize you can’t wash whites with darks and a diet of Oreos, mac-n-cheese, and Top Ramen just doesn’t cut it.  It is tough to make ends meet on my unemployment check without some help.

Just givin’ ya shit dude… It wasn’t me that moved out, it was my wife and that was because when she turned 16 she was able to get emancipated.

Justin
Your wife is sixteen? Err… seventeen? Wow. i graduated from Community College a while ago - meanie.