Union Boss: Since When Is A Secret Ballot Part Of A Democracy?

Yes, he did actually say it.

Teamsters General President Jim Hoffa today praised House and Senate sponsors of the Employee Free Choice Act.
The bill would give workers the choice of forming a union through majority sign-up or a National Labor Relations Board election. It would make it easier for workers to form a union.
“In these dire economic times, I can’t think of a better way to restore stability to middle-class families than to strengthen unions,” Hoffa said. “History shows that the economy does well when unions are strong.”
Hoffa blasted the hostile, multimillion-dollar campaign to defeat the Employee Free Choice Act.
“This business about the Employee Free Choice Act taking away the secret ballot is nonsense spread by front groups for corporate fat cats who don’t want to give up their $16,000 wastebaskets,” Hoffa said.
“Since when is the secret ballot a basic tenet of democracy?” Hoffa said.

I think that democracy can exist without a secret ballot. Hoffa goes on to use New England-style town hall meetings as an example of democracy in action without the secret ballot, and that’s probably valid. But he then, absurdly, invokes the Soviet Union as an example of voting with secret ballots that wasn’t in a democracy. While the subjects under Soviet rule did get to vote for their local soviets (or local representation) the Communist party and the, ahem, labor unions controlled who did and did not run. Most of the elections were unopposed elections with the party/union candidate getting 99% of the vote.
Because what is more important to democracy than the secret ballot is an environment free from intimidation. People can vote on local issues in town hall meetings without secret ballots and that can work as democracy as long as their isn’t intimidation involved. People can also vote in a secret ballot, but if some candidates are too afraid of what will happen to them if they run against another candidate or if voters are afraid of speaking out publicy then there is no democracy and the secret ballot is meaningless.
Thus, the true measure of democracy is how freely the people casting their votes can do so without fear.
Now, not all situations can be made free of episodes of intimidation, and labor organizing which has a violent past. Both unions and management have been prone, in the past, to try to get their way through violence or economic pressure. Thus the secret ballot is important to the process to protect workers from both sides.

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  • http://reaganiterepublicanresistance.blogspo.com/ Reaganite Republican

    If you want the rest of the country to look like Detroit, just pass the card-check legislation that Obama seeks to pay-back his shady union supporters with.

    In today’s world, if someone else is willing to do what you do for less, you’ve got a problem. There’s simply no way to force employers to pay you more than what you’re worth over the long run, as the company will be destroyed by competitors with labor purchased at the market rate.

    The gangster methods and ludicrous job rules of the UAW only worked for the short term benefit of a few, as the company, workers, and country all lose out as the enterprise is bled white. If you want to earn more money, you better obtain a marketable skill… the days of $50/hr for putting hubcaps on Cutlass Supremes is long, long gone.

    When Reagan pushed the unions back, 20M jobs were created, and real GDP grew 30%. So who does the UAW help? Not American industry or workers-

    With card-check, union goons can show up at your doorstep at 10pm to “ask” you to join the union. And guess what? You WILL sign- lol

    Like most of Obama’s leftist proposals, there’s no precedent to suggest restoring union power will help the country as a whole- it’s historical revisionism, at best.

    Barack takes care of Barack #1… but political backers like Tony Rezko and unions are a close second. The country’s interests are a distant third, if that.

    The UAW has been nothing but a tumor on the neck of the free-market capitalist system… and look what it got us.

    http://reaganiterepublicanresistance.blogspot.com

  • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ proof_positive

    Poor spam lost its link, too! It should really take better care of its stuff!

  • Buzz

    When card check passes it will be the best thing that has ever happened to Americas working class people. A strong Union makes a strong America. People will have the opportunity to form a Union and start getting paid a living wage for once in their lifetime for many.

    God bless the Union, how else could a mutt like me make 100,000 a year?LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

  • http://www.valleydeals.com/cgi-bin/board2/YaBB.pl Kevin

    What are the goonions afraid of?

  • 2Hotel9

    Secret ballot served the Unionscum’s purpose, now it is an impediment to forcing people to join.

    The question I still want answered is why are government employees in a Union? The entire reason Unions were formed was to protect the unskilled and uneducated, and they promptly turned their backs on those who actually needed them and ran to the money. Imagine that.

  • 2Hotel9

    And why should anyone give a fuck what some spambot thinks?

  • Brent

    What are the goonions afraid of?

    http://www.data360.org/temp/dsg1387_500_350.jpg

  • 2Hotel9

    poor buzzed, lying and spinning. Unionism has destroyed our economy and industry, exactly as its founders intended.

  • funny videos

    I don’t believe in secret ballots. It should be removed from our government.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    That people might realize we’re better off without them?

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