Union Puts Twinkies Out Of Business

Hostess Twinkies Celebrate 75th Anniversary

There have always been jokes about how Twinkies never go bad. About how, if there were a global apocalypse, survivors might dine on Twinkies well into the future because they survive so well.

Except, Twinkies apparently couldn’t survive Big Labor.

If the union can’t have those jobs, nobody can have those jobs.

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Hostess, the makers of Twinkies, Ding Dongs and Wonder Bread, is going out of business after striking workers failed to heed a Thursday deadline to return to work, the company said.

“We deeply regret the necessity of today’s decision, but we do not have the financial resources to weather an extended nationwide strike,” Hostess CEO Gregory F. Rayburn said in announcing that the firm had filed a motion with the U.S. Bankruptcy Court to shutter its business. “Hostess Brands will move promptly to lay off most of its 18,500-member workforce and focus on selling its assets to the highest bidders.”

Hostess Brands Inc. had earlier warned employees that it would file to unwind its business and sell off assets if plant operations didn’t return to normal levels by 5 p.m. Thursday. In announcing its decision, Hostess said its wind down would mean the closure of 33 bakeries, 565 distribution centers, approximately 5,500 delivery routes and 570 bakery outlet stores in the United States.

Pay close attention to the way this will be reported. If Hostess were moving these jobs to China or something, they’d be vilified.

But the union putting the company out of business? It will get a collective “meh” from the nation’s reporters and editorialists.

Update: For you North Dakota/Minnesota readers, it’s worth remembering that this is the same union responsible for the American Crystal debacle, which put hundreds of workers out of a job.

Rob Port is the editor of SayAnythingBlog.com. In 2011 he was a finalist for the Watch Dog of the Year from the Sam Adams Alliance and winner of the Americans For Prosperity Award for Online Excellence. In 2013 the Washington Post named SAB one of the nation's top state-based political blogs, and named Rob one of the state's best political reporters. He writes a weekly column for several North Dakota newspapers, and also serves as a policy fellow for the North Dakota Policy Council.

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  • Spartacus

    Hmmm, tough decision. Take a 2% cut in pay and benefits or go on strike
    and ultimately have nothing, then try to find a new job in Obama’s economy
    with the skill set of a Hostess baker… Brilliant choice they made, now
    all 18,500 of them are unemployed. Now THAT’S solidarity!

    • two_amber_lamps

      Lol… define skillet-heads? GJ Trumka and you leftist labor ideologues. Enjoy your transfer to the gubmint tit.

    • $8194357

      Maybe they “refused” unisex bathrooms as well?

    • fredlave

      I guess that many of the laid off employees will be too old to find new jobs equivalent in pay and benefits to their work at Hostess. The same union caused the Stella D’oro Biscuit Company to shut down its Bronx NY factory a few years ago and move to a right-to-work state, Ohio, leaving 138 workers behind to find new jobs. The union would rather see its members unemployed than be thought weak.

  • fedupny

    Here is what the union voted down.

    “Hostess Brands is unprofitable under its current cost structure, much of which is determined by union wages and pension costs. The offer to the BCTGM included wage, benefit and work rule concessions but also gave Hostess Brands’ 12 unions a 25 percent ownership stake in the company, representation on its Board of Directors and $100 million in reorganized Hostess Brands’ debt. ”

    http://hostessbrands.info/

    The teamsters crying about the Baker’s union not using a secret ballot.

    “Teamsters: Bakery Workers Should Hold Secret Ballot Vote at Hostess
    November 15, 2012
    Unannounced Strike Has Put Thousands of Jobs in Jeopardy”

    http://www.teamster.org/content/teamsters-bakery-workers-should-hold-secret-ballot-vote-hostess

    • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

      Anti-union interests wanted to use the transparent votes to blackmail union workers.

      Now we get to see the free market fall out that the conservatives like to tout. Pay close attention to how this works out for them.

      • fedupny

        It was the Teamsters complaining about it Hanni. The open votes cut both ways, anti union and union. The Teamsters decided to accept the offer by secret ballot.

        “Today, the Teamsters Union announced its recommendation to the Bakery, Confectionary, Tobacco and Grain Millers International Union (BCTGM) that a vote of its Hostess members by secret ballot should be held to determine if the workers want to continue their strike of the company and force it into liquidation. … We may never know unless the BCTGM members, based on the facts they know today, get to determine their fate in a secret ballot vote. Teamster members would understand that the will of the BCTGM Hostess membership was truly heard if that was the case.”

        • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

          How do transparent votes cut anti-union interests?

          • fedupny

            You honestly can’t see where either side can pressure the union members to vote their way?

            An example in point, read the Teamster link. The Baker’s union members weren’t given all the information (from the union) leading them to believe there were solutions available when the bankruptcy judge said there wasn’t.

          • two_amber_lamps

            No, he can’t. fedupny, hope you realize you’re arguing with a brick wall up there…

          • fedupny

            I know 2al, I was just trying to goad him into a little honesty and truth. I just found it hypocritical that the unions are trying to get card check and yet the Teamsters were promoting a secret ballot to get an honest vote from the baker’s union members.

      • HG

        How do you blame the free market for a union problem?

        • The one you don’t care for

          The union is part of the free market.

          • HG

            And….

          • The one you don’t care for

            And nothing. The workers union is a stakeholder in the free market,

          • two_amber_lamps

            If the union had a stake in the free market, why did they drive a “stake” thru the heart of their 18,000+ members and land em’ on the unemployment dole?

          • $8194357

            Collective corperate ideologies are illuminati marxist in origin.
            Ideological root systems “mainstreamed” into American society
            and culture for its destruction by deception calling the
            thing by another name…

          • The one you don’t care for

            The management is at fault.
            They don’t know how to run a company.

          • donwalk

            You can blame the money guys who loaded Hostess with too much debt and never figured out a real plan for fixing its business. Now, they are coming out with a huge financial loss.
            You can blame the Unions for not making enough concessions.
            You can blame the bakers for administering the final death blow by striking.
            You can blame management for their incompetence and their trying to run a flailing company on debt and hope.
            There’s enough blame for everyone involved to have a share.
            BUT
            When it came down to the final decision, which was to save jobs or to save the Union’s reputation as being in control, the union leaders chose themselves so now approximately 18,500 workers are unemployed.
            What counts is the final decision made at the critical time and the union made their decision – you cannot change that!
            Union wins and saves the leader’s ego’s while everyone else marches to the unemployment office.

          • $8194357

            stake holders
            share holders
            and steering committes
            suporting pre determined outcome and goals..
            Sounds almost…comunist or something..
            good thing they don’t have corperate citizenship
            vision and mission statements enforced by
            corperate ethics, signed loyalty oaths and all…
            OH WAIT…
            never mind comrade……

        • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

          The free market fall-out is what you wanted to happen to Chrysler, you said it was a good thing if it sold it’s assets and would re-emerge. This is what Romney would allow to happen.

          So, let it run it’s course and sit back and enjoy. What about all the other non-union businesses that are going out of business? That doesn’t bother SAB conservatives, cuz that’s different, I suppose.

          • HG

            I don’t think anyone is enjoying this. But blame belongs with the union in this case. Had they agreed 18500 jobs would not be in next months unemployment numbers.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            So in your mind, there is only one side to blame for a divorce? Let me guess, it’s the woman’s fault, right?

            Everything would have worked out in the marriage, had the woman only understood her place. Something like that, yeah?

          • fedupny

            Still won’t read that Teamster’s link I posted, huh. The Baker’s union messed up and are now out of the their jobs. The Teamster accepted the terms because they got to look at the financial records and informed their members that there wasn’t any alternative solution. The Teamsters that worked for Hostess now have to live with other union’s decision.

          • Onslaught1066

            When dealing with hanniturd you must remember this:

            Twinkies™ aren’t the only things made out of sponge cake and filled with cream.

          • $8194357

            OWS’er

          • donwalk

            Are you sure that you shouldn’t be referring to a “Ding Dong” rather than a twinkie? But then the Ding Dongs are all in Washington, aren’t they?

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            “So in your mind, there is only one side to blame for a divorce?” Hypocrite much, Hanni Boo Boo?

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Exactly how does that make me a hypocrite? The situation with Hostess is a shared responsibility.

            You of all people shouldn’t be jumping into a discussion about divorce.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            Exactly! It’s your simple minded busting on me for things you know nothing about that make you a hypocrite. Well, that and the fact you’re a hypocrite! Heh.

            Your jealousy of me, because you have never been in a long term relationship as I have (most women see you as a phony, mouth breathing misogynist in record time.) is duly noted.

            “So, in what passes for your mind, there is only one side to blame for a divorce, Hanni Boo Boo? Any chance you could obsess over someone else for the next five years?

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            PROOFoundly_stupid, why are you obsessing about what I said to HG? Your HDS is starting to tear your brain apart the stem.

            There was no need for you to call me a hypocrite, since I have never had a divorce and your busting on me for things that you know nothing about. We both know the dramatic difference between the success I have had with women and your need to post pictures women/teens on your blog, whom you don’t even know.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            Hanni Boo Boo, for years you have made disparaging remarks about my divorce, out of your total and abysmal ignorance, and tried to characterize it in a one sided fashion, as a means of somehow trying to hurt my feelings or tarnish my reputation. Mewling, bleating infants such as yourself, are unable to accomplish that, particularly when you know not of which you speak.

            And, for a change, you are right. There’s no need to call you a hypocrite, since it is self evident. I just enjoy pointing out the irony impairment of incompetent, liberal morons (but I repeat myself) like yourself.

            Bleat some more about your “success with women”, Hanni Boo Boo. Maybe someday, you’ll even convince yourself?

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            PROOFoundly_dishonest, pointing out your responsibility for your divorce does not mean I excused your wife’s. She just didn’t contact my friends and try to smear my name, or threaten to contact my employer, or contact my employer to try and smear my name and damage my livelihood, or post my name on the blog, email it to people, or photoshop images of me and try to belittle me as you have done.

            Had she done those things I would mention her failures as I have mentioned yours.

            You may now return to the lie that you live.

          • Hal476

            “contact my friends and try to smear my name, or threaten to contact my
            employer, or contact my employer to try and smear my name and damage my
            livelihood, or post my name on the blog,”

            But…but, that’s everything you did yourself.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            Hanni outed himself our years ago and still tries to play the victim. Guess that’s what you have to do when you have no capacity for intelligent argument and the facts are not on your side, as our Tiny Hanni Boo Boo personifies.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            Pointing out that you don’t know WTF you’re talking about, as usual, in addition to the lies you spew through your fecal stained teeth and the delusions and fantasies you have about me, is no trouble at all.

            You may now return to the psych ward that you’ve escaped from.

          • guest

            “since I have never had a divorce”

            That’s because no decent woman can stand you for any length of time. No decent woman wants a dysfunctional, narcissistic, self centered, self absorbed, selfish control freak.

          • HG

            Well since the union represententing 70% of employees agreed to the terms and only the Bakers union (representing the other 30%) went on strike, yes, the baker’s union is to blame.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            So you claim that the folks were invaluable to the companies survival and success? That’s an interesting, albeit tacit, admission.

            It’s too bad Hostess didn’t treat them fairly enough to resolve their free market crisis.

          • HG

            They obviously couldn’t afford to do any more. Too bad for everyone.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            That’s your opinion. There’s not a lot of incentive for owners to cave if they have made millions and can retire as millionaires or billionaires, and let everyone go. It’s too bad for everyone that when companies go out of business, it’s usually after the top dogs have been paid millions to be fired for running the company into the ground.

          • HG

            They were in bankruptcy. The judge had to approve of the agreement and did.

          • Spartacus

            It’s apparent that you’re not very good at coming up with analogies, that’s one the poorest and most irrelevant to the subject matter I’ve ever seen.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Of course that’s not true, and you lack the intellect to explain in intelligent terms why it’s different.

          • donwalk

            You can blame the money guys who loaded Hostess with too much debt and never figured out a real plan for fixing its business. Now, they are coming out with a huge financial loss.
            You can blame the Unions for not making enough concessions.
            You can blame the bakers for administering the final death blow by striking.
            You can blame management for their incompetence and their trying to run a flailing company on “Debt and Hope,” rather than Hope and Change.”.
            There’s enough blame for everyone involved to have a share.
            BUT
            When it came down to the final decision, which was to save jobs or to save the Union’s reputation as being in control, the union leaders chose themselves, so now approximately 18,500 workers are unemployed.
            What counts is the final decision made at the critical time and the union made their decision – you cannot change that!
            Union wins and saves the leader’s ego’s while everyone else marches to the unemployment office.
            “Forward”

          • Price

            ” had the woman only understood her place.”

            Your philosophy is why no decent woman wants you for any length of time. They just use you like the sucker you are.No one likes you, evryone just laughs at you.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            You have DEEP seated insecurities and jealousy.

            You and I both know that you don’t want to get into a competition with me about whose done better with quality women. LOL!

          • Price

            There could never be a “competition” because I don’t consider diseased, STD infected women quality, as you do.
            You’re a bigger scum bag than the filth you sleep with.

            “The responsible women told me right before
            we were going to have sex and indicated they were not having a “break out”. HSV-1 or HSV-2 are usually visual. I didn’t stick around long as one was in a transition period, as was I, she just wanted to hit it because we worked together and because of the tension. The
            second I just lost interest after learning the facts. So I reduced my risk exposure down to one experience only, per woman. But I take pills for Clamydia because its hard to diagnose and is most
            common in women.”

            Hannitized on May 10, 2009 at 10:13 am

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            LOL. Well, unlike you, I understand the world as an adult, and decent women have been lied to by men like you, who carry STD’s. A gal I knew contracted hers from a military guy. But guys like you just pass on your STD’s to them and consider them trash. Nice!

            Women like this, and probably like your daughter, are not toys to use abuse and condemn, you misogynist pig. They are human and some of them are very respectful, decent women.

            The women I was speaking of were not those specific women who were treated so badly, by men like you. I’m sure it bothers you to no end to know in your heart that I fared well with attractive, successful, intelligent women who are wealthy.

          • Price

            Other than you, I’m not acquainted with anyone with STD’s, or sleeps with filth as you do.. I know your feeble attempts to get something right are always in vain, but, unfortunately for you, once again, you’re wrong, I don’t have a daughter. Funny how you constanly brag about the women you can only dream of, all the while you just sit alone, day and night on a blog seeking, craving attention, any attention, from anyone. You’re even content when people just sh*t all over you, laugh at you and just ridicule you and your dysfunctional mongoloid family.
            You’re pathetic, but so much fun to watch you trip over your big floppy shoes. In honor of your accomplishments, do you have a framed copy of your tax lien mounted next to your mirror, or is it on the front of your apartment so people can see what a hell of a piece of sh*t you are?

            Braaaahahahahaha!!!

          • donwalk

            You left part of your boasting and flaunting out of your posted sentence, so it has now been completed:
            “I’m sure it bothers you to no end to know in your heart that I fared well with attractive, successful, intelligent women who are wealthy, AND INFLICTED WITH STD’S.”
            You really should be truthful at all times!

          • $8194357

            New left democrats
            Love American style……

          • HG

            H, you’re no competition at all.
            How do you define quality woman, only 1 STD?

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Are you going to say that because guys like you, and some of your friends, passed along the STD’s that were contracted overseas, to women they lied to and put at risk because they were too selfish not to protect themselves and the women they victimized, are lesser women?

          • HG

            Ain’t never been overseas, H.

          • The Revealer

            You should go sometime.
            It’s nice out there.

          • guest

            No one has any reason to be jealous of you, a tax cheat on STD meds.

          • donwalk

            You can blame the money guys who loaded Hostess with too much debt and never figured out a real plan for fixing its business. Now, they are coming out with a huge financial loss.
            You can blame the Unions for not making enough concessions.
            You can blame the bakers for administering the final death blow by striking.
            You can blame management for their incompetence and their trying to run a flailing company on “Debt and Hope,” rather than Hope and Change.”.
            There’s enough blame for everyone involved to have a share.
            BUT
            When it came down to the final decision, which was to save jobs or to save the Union’s reputation as being in control, the union leaders chose themselves, so now approximately 18,500 workers are unemployed.
            What counts is the final decision made at the critical time and the union made their decision – you cannot change that!
            Union wins and saves the leader’s ego’s while everyone else marches to the unemployment office.
            “Forward”

        • dakotacyr

          Twinkies are getting “bained”!

      • Onslaught1066

        Well hello there lil feller.

        Are you lost again?

        Aren’t you happy there will be 18,500 new obama voters come 2016?

        Why don’t you dry your eyes lil feller (short that is)

        You’re getting your yellow boardies all damp… What’s that?… they’re not yellow, you say? A… And it’s not tears making them damp… Riiiiiiiiight,

        You may now return to the irrelevance of your sand box to continue bobbing for Tootsie Rolls™, unless they will be the next victim of union thuggery.

        • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

          This from the reality denier who said “it’s a good idea to stick your dick in the ass of a 12yr old boy”- Onslaught1066

          • Onslaught1066

            If you don’t know if you’re happy to get 18,500 new obama voters, just say so, we all will understand.

            You may now return to the irrelevance of your sand box and continue bobbing for Tootsie Rolls™.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            You have a knack for revealing your immaturity level. Well done. You make my job easy.

          • Onslaught1066

            You have a knack for revealing your irrelevance, all you need do is open your mouth and let words pour out.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            The problem for you is that almost every position I have taken has been proven to be the winning argument with the majority of American and my facts are 90% more accurate than yours.

            You on the other hand have an opposition to reality and your ideas are old and tired. You have lost and will continue to lose as you double down on stupidity.

            And all of this ignores my relevance in my party and the heights I have reached, all while you wallow in the mud-pits of the radical right.

          • Onslaught1066

            The problem for you is you are an imbecile, the delight for me is that you are incapable of recognizing this fact which leads you to generate fresh fodder for derision.

            You may now return to the irrelevance of your sand box and continue to bob for Tootsie Rolls™.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            You have never said anything intelligent on this forum, and with each and every post you make it’s obvious that the odds are against that ever happening in the future.

          • Onslaught1066

            Did I hurt your widdle feewings?

            If it’s too erudite in here for you, perhaps you should stick to your sand box and bob for Tootsie Rolls™

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            Sounds like you’re parroting your inbox now, Tiny Sociopath.

          • LenYol

            Once again you demonstrate your obsession with c*ck.

    • dakotacyr

      And what did management give up, their multi million pay increases….. wait for it…..wait for it……. NOPE!

      • $8194357

        You mean “just like the government structured bail out of GM”..
        Unions and management gave up nothing and got taxpayer
        assistance to move to China while the “folks”
        got nothing but the shaft..

        • http://realitybasedbob.sayanythingblog.com/ realitybasedbob

          Don’t sweat it, Gun Nut. No one really expected you to suddenly discover truth after your party got it’s ass handed to it. There is still time for you to find the truth. It’s out there, turn off your hate radio and right wing TEEVEE and just look for it.

          Mitt Romney says Obama gave away car companies to union

          The reality is Obama was in charge of a bailout deal that resulted in
          the union’s health care trust owning stock in Chrysler and GM. But the trust was owed money to pay for health care under the terms of labor contracts the car companies signed. And the union “gave” plenty too — in the form of wages, vacation and job security. In that light, the arrangement was a tradeoff, not a giveaway.

          What tips Romney’s claim even further from reality is the fact that the union itself does not own any GM or Chrysler stock. The trust that manages health benefits for retirees is the stockholder, and it is independent from the UAW. It is not a majority shareholder in either company, nor does it have a vote on the board.

          All the experts we talked to agreed that Romney’s statement is just flat wrong. Our ruling: False.

          • $8194357

            if it “were” a squirrel hunt?
            Yes rbb you would be one of the top ‘con’ tenders…

          • ellinas1

            Do not overload Neiman with facts.
            The truth drives him crazy.

          • Neiman

            Like the fact Gay Bob and I are not pals, he/she admits we are not pals and keeps calling me his/her pal? Get your girlfriend Gay Bob’s facts straight first Nancy.

          • ellinas1

            I do have my facts straight, Hermione.
            Realitybasedbob does not call nor does he considers you his pal.
            Instead of calling you Neiman, he refers to you as “Old Pal.”

          • Neiman

            You liberals just cannot help lying, can you? I feel sorry for all of you liberals, you are all deliberately, consciously self-deceived, lying yourselves into hell and worse, much worse, because you believe your own damnable lies, even when as below actual evidence proves you wrong. If you liberals do not like a word definition you just arbitrarily change the definition and insist the new definition, despite all the evidence to the contrary, is the only definition.

            The “Old Pal” is a salutation and no one with average intelligence could read it without interpreting it as him/her referring to me as his friend, his comrade, his close chum. That is the definition and intent of that salutation and those are FACTS; which you will deny, because you seem to be in love with Gay Bob and I mean in a romantic, homosexual way. You defend him/her with passion if anyone dares even appear to insult him/her or oppose his/her lies.

            You are a terribly sick, hell bound man and I pity you.

        • Neiman

          The Government, meaning Obama (not the people) and the DNC still own millions of shares of GM stock, they run the company literally and the Unions own Obama and the DNC, case closed. The shares are in the tank as is GM. The unions busted GM and gave up nothing but the obscene wages and benefits they got from GM by thuggery and extortion over the years. Remember, the unions are the equivalent of the NAZI brown shirts, even threatening to be Obama’s army against the people of the United States.

          I laugh when the lying scum bag below talks about truth, I have exposed so many of his post headlines as being bald faced lies that it is tiresome exposing this literally damned liar and Christ hater.

          • http://realitybasedbob.sayanythingblog.com/ realitybasedbob

            Et tu, fact free Old Pal?

          • Neiman

            I thought I heard something below, but no, it was just a foul smelling, lying fart from hell relieving some pressure.

          • http://realitybasedbob.sayanythingblog.com/ realitybasedbob

            Thank you, I truly understand you do not respect anyone having any opposite opinions from your own or their daring to express them. But facts, Old Pal, facts. Why do you hate them?

          • Neiman

            Gay Bob and I are not pals, why does he hate that absolute fact?

          • $8194357

            Yup..
            what you said..

          • Your Greek buddy

            Your view/opinion that Obama and the DNC own millions of shares of GM stock is laughable and silly.

          • Neiman

            They made this deal, they control the country and the unions control them, so all in but name, they do own/control millions of shares – now shut up Greek pedophile.

          • Your Greek buddy

            Your view/opinion that Obama and the DNC own millions of shares of GM stock is laughable and silly.

            In view of your laughable and silly viewpoint concerning the GM shares, it must also be your view/opinion that when the Obama presidency ends in four years he will take those shares with him?
            Wow! You are a deranged individual void of any logic.

          • donwalk

            They will certainly take the value of those stocks with them, just as the taxpayers received the value of their investment – which is a negative return! The value will be zero by the end of another four years.

      • fedupny

        I posted links for a reason, but for reading is fundemental crowd, the negotiations the Teamsters approved for their contract gave them more say in the management of the company. Where did you find they were getting multi-million dollar pay increases? If you’re trying to say they got “bained”, consider that when they filed for chapt 11 in 2009, without the infusion of 130 million dollars they would have gone under then. The roughly 5000 baker’s union members effectively put 18500 employees out of work, but that’s okay with you.

      • donwalk

        Looks like they gave up the company to demands that could not be met! Are you having a difficult time in following or keeping up?
        Nothing left to wait for now, except the unemployment checks.
        Unions wins the battle but loses the war – now “Forward”!

  • bman

    Fat welfare recipients and children hardest hit.

  • DelawareBeachHouse

    Why isn’t there a federal bailout for Hostess? You could restructure their debt, favor the unions, and stick it to stockholders. Where’s President Obama?

    • http://sayanythingblog.com Rob

      Please, don’t give them any ideas.

      The more pertinent question is, why isn’t it easier for Hostess to dispense with their union and negotiate a contract with a more reasonable group of workers?

    • DelawareBeachHouse

      Good CNBC interview with CEO Greg Rayburn. Company does hope to sell its brands, assets, so Twinkies not dead — yet. http://video.cnbc.com/gallery/?video=3000129856

    • fedupny

      They were offering 25% of the company and representation on the board

    • RCND

      Michelle would try to turn it into a health food company

      • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

        Replace the creme filling with arugula.

  • Roy_Bean

    Its probably for the best. They wouldn’t be able to sell these in Chicago or New York anyway.

  • RCND

    Labor unions excel at cutting their memberships noses off in spite of the faces of their leadership.

  • Onslaught1066

    Check out Twinkies on Ebay.

    Free market rules!

    • fedupny

      People have to stock up for the zombie apocalypse.

      • BadgerFan82

        The shelves are bare! I tried to pick up farewell cupcakes, and there wasn’t a Hostess cake to be found in the store… Sigh…

  • mickey_moussaoui

    file chap 11, then reopen, then all the workers can reapply for the jobs. If they trespass or hastle the new workers have them arrested

    • fedupny

      They’re in Chapt 11. Either they emerge from it or liquidate.

  • mickey_moussaoui

    al queada is alive….twinkies is dead

    • fedupny

      The union killed their host(ess)

      • two_amber_lamps

        Lol… funny, if it wasn’t tragic.

        • $8194357

          See any coralation to the New left democrats destruction of
          Constitutional America.
          Take take take.
          entitled to more more more..
          THEN blame it on being Bained.
          Evil a$$ conservitive Santa Clause killers..

          • Your Greek buddy

            I see no correlation to the the “New left democrats destruction of
            Constitutional America.”
            I can only see the damage done by the neocons, cons and assorted right wing loons, as they only want the moneyed elites to take, take, take and then want them to take more, more, more.
            God forbid we give something to the working stiffs.
            Then blame it on the unions.
            Evil a$$ conservative Santa Clause killers..

          • $8194357

            Ya, I knew you would E..
            thats what I been telling ya…
            The devils been blaming everything on the patriarchail rule of Judeo/Christiian Law and moving it leftward into the rule of elitist olagarchs “above” the rule of law the rest of us live by..
            I never have claimed that our “federal government” was “only” decieved on the left..
            It started on “equal individual freedom and liberty” and perverted to collective against collective as the ruling elite profit.
            I have never “meant” anything different..
            The leftist statist were the “first” to buy in to elitist lies.
            Now?
            globalism with the same crony pre-determined
            outcomes for the elite…Devils agendas one and all.
            He hates God’s patriarchail rule of Law systems.

          • Your Greek buddy

            Amen, brother.
            As you say 10X.

      • Spartacus

        The parasites killed their host(ess)

        • $8194357

          Just like the democrats killed America.

  • bman

    No more twinkies. How do you like that “hope and change” Michael Moore?

    • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

      Michael Moore has been placed on a suicide watch.

      • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

        More like your candidate Mitt Romney, whom you adored, even though you said he doubled down on stupid on multiple occasions.

        Did you hear his latest attacks on Hispanics and minorities. What a guy!

        • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

          Your Romney Derangement Syndrome (or is it Proof Derangement Syndrome?) is duly noted. I never said I “adored” Mitt. I never said he “doubled down on stupid on multiple occasions”. Are you mistaken, because all of my comments about Mitt were written in English? Or are you merely lying through your fecal stained teeth again, since, as a congenital liar, you cannot help yourself, Hanni Boo Boo.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            LOL! Don’t attempt to parse my words, obsessed freak. You aren’t nearly smart or honest enough to do it successfully.

            You said “Mitt Romney keeps doubling down on stupid”. You said that, and something similar. But why stop lying now? That’s all you can do, is appreciate the guy who can’t stop blowing his dog whistle…..just like you.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            Hanni: I would never try to “parse” your words. That would imply that there was some rational order behind them to be parsed.

            I always figured that, apart from your lies and libels, you only typed random words, to hear the lovely clicking of the keys echo inside the vast, empty canyons of your head. .

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Blah, Blah, you repeat the same old shit over the last two elections where your out of touch ass was handed to you.

            Now you are going to ignore that you said:”Mitt Romney keeps doubling down on stupid”. You said that, and something else similar. But why stop lying now? That’s all you can do, is appreciate the guy who can’t stop blowing his dog whistle…..just like you.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            The last two elections? Were you in a coma in 2010 or do you simply struggle with the concept of “two”? You’re a pathetic little troll, Hanni Boo Boo.

            You may now return to your irrelevance.

            BTW, “your out of touch ass”? Need I remind the tiny ADD infested Tiki Troll, that in both the 2008 and 2012 presidential primaries, I opposed Mitt, largely on the basis of his electability, or lack thereof. Mirabile dictu, he was not elected! And in the moldy Silly Putty that passes for your mind, that makes me out of touch? Yeah. Right!

          • donwalk

            He’s just trying to get his dog to come home before someone kidnaps it and eats it for dinner!

      • two_amber_lamps

        Why? Let ‘em…..

        • fedupny

          Our luck is that he makes another stupid documentary called “Ding Dongs And Me”

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            Bowling for Ho-Ho’s

          • fedupny

            Dolly Madison: A Love Story

          • $8194357

            “A Snowballs chance in hell” ?

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            “Ding Dongs, the which, are dead”

          • fedupny

            So don’t “Follow the yellow cake’s road” ?

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            There’s a hashtag over on Twitter #HostessMovies that’s starting to pick up steam. Some pretty good ones over there!

          • two_amber_lamps

            Or how about “A Micheal Moore Story, MM’s life as Hostess’s BITCH”

  • SigFan

    These idiots voted for the strike and now they are reaping what they sowed. Not going to waste any sympathy for the stupid.

  • The Fighting Czech

    Truthfully, I havent seen any Hostess Items around for a long time. its all been copied stuff, under brand names Ive never heard of before..

  • Guest

    The company’s failure is hardly the result of only unions like the title of the post indicates. The company emerged from an earlier bankruptcy in 2009 in part thanks to “substantial concession by the unions.” http://management.fortune.cnn.com/2012/07/26/hostess-twinkies-bankrupt

    However, even after those concessions, the company was unable to pay down its debt and stopped paying into pensions and requested further concessions such as 30% salary cut (while executives raised there own salaries 80%, mind you). http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304072004577323993512506050.html

    Even if you think the union was unreasonable for not taking 30% even after its earlier concessions, Hostess still had several major problems independent of that. It’s sales fell into a precipitous decline. CNBC writes, “The company’s sales declined and attempts to roll-out new products more in line with changing consumer tastes flopped.” http://www.cnbc.com/id/49853653 The Washington Post even wrote the company would still lose money even if it didn’t pay into a pension. http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/2012/01/11/gIQAxrXAsP_story.html?Post+generic=?tid=sm_twitter_washingtonpost.

    In conclusion, unions didn’t put twinkies out of business, the free market and poor mangement did. The Hostess brand still has a lot of good will, so better run company will probably buy the name and produce it themsleves.

    • dakotacyr

      Exactly right, Twinkies got “Bained”.

      • $8194357

        Again with the point right and say “they did it”..
        Union greed and entitlement mentality the New left democrats
        have used as the pry bar of destruction since the
        begining of the 1900’s IMO.
        Bained is a false narritive for the evil conservitives killing the leftist
        Santa Clause destruction ideology.

    • donwalk

      You can blame the money guys who loaded Hostess with too much debt and never figured out a real plan for fixing its business. Now, they are coming out with a huge financial loss.
      You can blame the Unions for not making enough concessions.
      You can blame the bakers for administering the final death blow by striking.
      You can blame management for their incompetence and their trying to run a flailing company on debt and hope.
      There’s enough blame for everyone involved to have a share.
      BUT
      When it came down to the final decision, which was to save jobs or to save the Union’s reputation as being in control, the union leaders chose themselves so now approximately 18,500 workers are unemployed.
      What counts is the final decision made at the critical time and the union made their decision – you cannot change that!
      Union wins and saves the leader’s ego’s while everyone else marches to the unemployment office.

  • Rick Olson

    Oops…double post…sorry.

  • Rick Olson

    Now there is a petition out asking the government to save Hostess and nationalize it and guess where it originated from? The White House! Socialism anyone?

    Here’s the petition to save Hostess. Holy crap. It sure seems that a lot of people have too much time on their hands, huh? To top it off, if any petition reaches 25,000 signatures, then the White House has to take the time to issue a response. It seems to me that these petitions are largely symbolic gestures.

    https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/nationalize-twinkie-industry/cJz0ngJR

    • dakotacyr

      Gees, Rick, could you be more wrong. The WH has a site where citizens can go to petition the government to do something. It was someone in the public who started it on the WH website.

      So get off your socialism horse!

      • Rick Olson

        Sorry, I’m not a socialist. I’m as conservative as they come. Maybe not so hardcore conservative as some people are, but conservative nevertheless.

        • DakotacyrDakotacyr

          you misunderstood, you said it was the WH that was socialist for doing the petition when it wasn,’t the WH that did the petition.

          I do know you are a conservative, just pointing out the WH did not start the petition, hence my comment on socialism.

          You were wrong.

          • Rick Olson

            Point well taken. Did you know the same union that caused Hostess to shut down is the same union that is embroiled here in the Red River Valley in its labor dispute/lockout by American Crystal Sugar? Yep. The United Food and Commercial Workers Union.

  • ‘Tom Crawford

    Politico’s Cirilli, Others Ignore Heavy Democrat Involvement in Hostess Ownership and Management

    Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2012/11/17/politicos-cirilli-others-ignore-heavy-democrat-involvement-hostess-manag#ixzz2CV21GGQY

    • fedupny

      good link guess they got Bained by Democrats.

  • sbark

    Hostess Shrugged………

    hourly wage for the designation of “bakeries and tortilla manufacturers” was
    $12.57 in 2011, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. Workers manning the
    Hostess picket lines this week were earning roughly 35% more than the
    national average at wage levels of 16 to 18 per hour…….after the cuts, Hostess still would have been paying their workers handsomely,
    24 percent more than the industry norm.

    • fedupny

      I won’t be surprised if many more companies that aren’t too big to fail will “shrug” as the end of year comes up. This one is high profile because of the iconic brands, how many will quietly disappear?

      • sbark

        I waiting for Obama to “wake up” to the fact that many people will get laided off or reduced to part time status as part of ObamaCare, especially in states that jump on the exchange bandwagon…….
        When the Left takes action, I see an Exec. Order proclaiming any layoffs or hour cuts as discriminatory against the right of health care for every Indiv.

        • fedupny

          I think he knows already, that’s why he preemptively reduced what is considered full time. I don’t think he has the balls to issue an EO like that, if he could, on private business. At least not until he can replace some SCOTUS justices.

  • groetzinger

    So I guess it didn’t have anything to do with the pay raises management was giving themselves when the company was struggling,80% raises for management.

    The workers have had pay cuts and benefits taken and felt they have given enough.
    Just a way for the company lower wages.They will be making twinkies soon.

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