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Tuesday, March 13, 2007

Turn In Your Paper Late, Receive F, Call the Barrister

Stoopid!

The parent of a Sissonville High School student is suing a teacher and the school board over a failing grade the student received on a leaf project in her advanced biology class.

According to the lawsuit, the student was given a failing grade for not turning in a biology project on the date it was due. The lawsuit says the girl was out of school that day on an approved student council trip to Jackson’s Mill in Lewis County.

“The plaintiff has a right to be out of school on approved school activities, such as student council, without being punished by a teacher who intentionally manipulated the grading system and used the grade as a form of punishment to make sure that the minor plaintiff’s 4.5 GPA was destroyed,” the lawsuit says.

The strangest thing is that the parents are alledging that this was a plan by the teacher lower the little princesses grade.  Yeah, it’s all a conspiracy against this one student.

Now the school could make this a bit easier by having a clear policy on when papers can be turned in when they are missing for school activities or for illness.  I don’t think it should be left to the teacher. 

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The professor of my German class at university was late for every lecture.

He never was in the class room on time and it was a full ten minutes into the class period before he even spoke a word of Deutsch.

If you know the material of the subject matter and the content shows competence and knowledge of the facts and science, you are to be graded on those criteria, not whether it is late.

In this case, the class instructor is wrong and has failed the student.

If the instuctor can’t do the job, he or she needs to find one that he or she can do. 

It is more of a cop out than anything else.

If the class instructor wants to teach the student a lesson, there are better ways to approach the situation.

The teacher gets a ‘F’ for failing to do a proper fulfillment of the job description.

The student did do the work.  Grade the paper and forget about it.

‘alleging’

Ronald Walter on March 13, 2007 at 06:41 am

I’m not going to stick up for the teacher here, but this was a project to be turned in.  You can’t allow someone unlimited time to turn it in when they want to.


What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.


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The Whistler on March 13, 2007 at 07:07 am

I think that the facts are somewhat important here.  I can see how the student would be upset if they were led to believe that a late assignment would be accepted, and I can understand the instructor wanting to make an example of the student if she had made it very clear that late assignments would not be accepted.  One of the following statements is false.  It needs to be determined which one:

“At no time was the minor plaintiff told by the teacher that she would be punished for being a part of student council by being required to turn her project in prior to the due date,” the lawsuit says.

“The project was turned in late,” he said. “The class had ample notice that late submissions would not be accepted.

Also, the lawsuit alleges that the grading structure for the class was intentionally manipulated by the instructor to give this assignment inappropriate weight in order to ensure that the student failed.  This is a bit far-fetched, but if true then it should weigh in favor of the student.

The leaf project was the most significant assignment of the semester, worth more points than the final exam.

It is quite possible that the teacher was out to get the student.  It is also quite possible that the student was inappropriately expecting special treatment due to her absence.  Hopefully the truth will be discovered.

It’s unfortunate that this has gone as far as it has.
The leaf project was the most significant assignment of the semester, worth more points than the final exam. According to the lawsuit, if the student received a zero or any failing grade, her “A” in the class would drop to a “B.”

Originally, the student would have earned a zero for turning in the project late. However, Schultz decided to give the student half-credit.

The student’s parents were not content with the teacher’s decision, calling it “an arbitrary and capricious act.”

The lawsuit contends that if the student had been absent because of an athletic event or had a disciplinary problem and was suspended from school, she would have been allowed adequate time to make up any missed assignments.

An what is this crap about a 4.5 GPA?  Weighted grades have kind of screwed up the measuring stick.

electnixon on March 13, 2007 at 07:34 am
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The US gov receives a ‘F’ for being late on winning the ‘war’ in Iraq.

If they didn’t do enough advance fact finding to be able to do the job right, what other grade do they deserve.

The win is in permanent sudden death overtime.

An ‘incomplete’ will do.

Support the troops, leave them there indefinitely.  No win, no loss, just permanent ‘war.’

It’s a win for the arms industry, they are supplying both sides of the conflict.

Afflict the comforted, comfort the afflicted.

An ‘F’ is all the Busheviks can expect.

There is an excuse for ignorance, but not for stupidity.

Ronald Walter on March 13, 2007 at 07:57 am
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RW - that is a big pant load of crap.  Nobody set a “turn in date” for the Iraq Project.  And we can stay indefinitely in Iraq at our present rate of lost if not for Congress and the media undermining public morales. 

But getting back to the post topics.  The student know that she have a project due on the same date as her trip, get it in a day ahead.  As long as the teacher set the same policy for everyone in the class that she have no excuse.  The teacher is king of the class, follow the rule set or fail.  The school should counter sue and kick the girl out of the school for undermining school discipline.

Anh on March 13, 2007 at 08:14 am

Anh: Just ignore Ronald! They put up a statue of him in his home town:



A troll is someone who only wants to stir up trouble, not have an honest debate.  Some signs that a poster is a troll:
* Dodges questions from other posters * Refuses to give sources
* When one of its arguments is shown to be false, either ignores the proof or moves the goalposts.  Heh. (From the LGF faq)

Proof on March 13, 2007 at 08:21 am

I only know the facts as they are alleged, but I would be willing to bet that I have some idea of what actually happened based on what I have witnessed around a high school.

Most likely, the student went to the teacher and aasked for more time since she was going to be out of town.  Based on the time of year it was, this most likely was the very end of a grading period, so the teacher was up against a hard deadline for having grades submitted.  The student’s request was denied.

If in fact, the project was finished by the Saturday prior to the due date, why did the student’s mother or father not drop the project off at the school?  It seems to me that this would be a fair compromise between the needs of the student and those of the teacher.  Instead, the student and her parents decided to throw down the gauntlet and challenge the teacher.  Either that ot she didn’t actually have the project done before she left for her trip which is actually what I suspect.

I have seen many, many, many cases of this.  The student figures that she can drag her feet as long as possible and the teacher will take the assignment.  Many teahcers do rather than deal with an irate parent.  The kids know this and play it up.


"Although I can accept talking scarecrows, lions and great wizards in emerald cities, I find it hard to believe there is no paperwork involved when your house lands on a witch.”
- Dave James

Steve L. on March 13, 2007 at 09:01 am
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Changing rhetoric of war

* Feb. 7, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, to U.S. troops in Aviano, Italy: “It is unknowable how long that conflict will last. It could last six days, six weeks. I doubt six months.”

Sounds like a deadline to me.

But since you folks don’t read much beyond the words you write on this blog, it isn’t difficult to understand that what you perceive to be ‘fact’ and what is fact are, indeed, different.

You can lead a bull to the whatchamacallit, but you can’t make him stampede.

You want the pedantic constraints of a high school teacher to have precedence over actual scholastic accomplisment. 

I can make the analogy of if I want.  So there.

Proof, your goat is still in my herd.  You can have the poor thing back at no charge.  I’m happy to care for him.  At least it is getting fed some decent food.  The poor thing was dern near starved to death when he came asking for food and shelter.  Don’t neglect what you cherish so much, it might just want to stay with me.

Ronald Walter on March 13, 2007 at 09:59 am

The sweet part is that L.H. of
Sissonville High, will be at the forefront of every admission
officers brain.

WOOF on March 13, 2007 at 12:45 pm
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