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This utterly a shame!

I’ve always had to remove my watch and belt but are people required to remove wedding band/rings? Come to think of it, people I’ve traveled with have had, orthodontia braces, tongue rings, earrings, naval rings, etc., and have never been asked to remove or even questioned. I’d have to say mouth braces are more threatening than nipple rings
Sheesh… just what type of adornments did she have jingling from her nipples anyway? It’s an odd situation that’s for sure. There’s no doubt going to be some substance hittin’ the fan over this. 
*shakes head*

Ah, yes; the always available legal mercenary, Gloria Allred.

This really is silly.  What would she do with rings?  How about wedding rings.
I hope there are not rings elsewhere!

Communism is evil

I hope they can nip this in the bud!

One Ring to rule them all,
One Ring to find them,
One Ring to bring them all
and in the darkness bind them.

TSA gotta watch out for that darkness!

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I don’t see it.  I don’t see how this is (or anything else really) is going to cause enough outrage to finally get rid of the ”security theater” that is the TSA.  If this is the proverbial straw, then why wasn’t making lactating mothers drink their own milk because it was in a bottle enough?  Why wasn’t putting random individuals on a list and making them go through interrogation before allowing them to fly enough?  Why wasn’t the “don’t put locks on your checked baggage because we might want to go through it and if you do lock it we’ll just destroy your bag to get to the contents” rule enough?  Why wasn’t the “put all your liquid and gel toiletries in a clear bag so that everyone can see that you dandruff shampoo” rule enough?

Well… I’m going to say, lets wait and see. Perhaps, it’s not as innocent as it seems.
If someone can’t take fingernail clippers on a flight then perhaps theres a reason to have her remove something that may be a potential problem.

If this is the proverbial straw, then why wasn’t making lactating mothers drink their own milk because it was in a bottle enough?  Why wasn’t putting random individuals on a list and making them go through interrogation before allowing them to fly enough?  Why wasn’t the “don’t put locks on your checked baggage because we might want to go through it and if you do lock it we’ll just destroy your bag to get to the contents” rule enough?  Why wasn’t the “put all your liquid and gel toiletries in a clear bag so that everyone can see that you dandruff shampoo” rule enough?

Cripes, kbeil, who said this was the straw?  All I said was that people were getting pretty fed up with the TSA.

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

-- Thomas Jefferson

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I’m sure the inspectors are enjoying the best security video in days.

The prevaling cover your ass rule is what is driving TSA and other inspectors to toss common sense out the window. I remember that last year they actually averted a cross country flight because two passengers were carrying bottles of clear liquid. If anyone had any doubt about the liquid, all they had to do was have them drink it. Turned out it was bottled water as the couple had told them. TSA goes through all these precautions. Yet there were 20 incidents last year where inspectors were able to get bomb making materials past them. We need to let those in power know that we want to be secure. But enough with the paranoia. Passengers are really getting fed up with the BS.

I’ve always had to remove my watch and belt but are people required to remove wedding band/rings?

When I travel by plane I usually have to put my watch, change, wedding ring, cellphone, and wallet in a little plastic tubby and send them through the x-ray machine. I usually travel with protein bars in my carry-on (a backpack) which has caused my backpack to be searched by hand a couple times. And of course I have to remove my shoes.

Perhaps, it’s not as innocent as it seems.

Anyone remember the Ninja throwing stars that Janet Jackson has as nipple piercings during the wardrobe malfunction.

So what happens if a person has had a mishap that caused a medico to embed a piece of metal splinting the damage?  Does the TSA stock hacksaws and scalples to undo the repairs?

Anna is right that these things look dangerous and could be used to cut an artery on someone inflight to get their demands met.

All I can say about this is : O U C H !

No matter the age or state of health, for a military man it is always glorious to tilt at windmills, rescue a fair Dulcinea and be a gallant knight in armor in a glorious cause.

So what happens if a person has had a mishap that caused a medico to embed a piece of metal splinting the damage?  Does the TSA stock hacksaws and scalples to undo the repairs?

I believe there are special medical ID cards for people who have metal knees or metal plates in their head.

this story is kind of annoying. if the lady had gone to the tsa website before she flew she would have known what might happen if they were to use a handwand on her. tsa has very few options on what to do with that stuff. i mean seriously do you think they wanna sit there all day having to look at people’s “private” areas. there is stuff that you can hide ie: razor blades, knife blade, and other small items, and just call them a piercing. life ain’t always fair and sadly we live in a day an age where this stuff has to happen. and kbiel to answer a few of your points. the reason tsa asks the locks to stay off is yes they have to be searched and sometimes opened. they do find a lot of stuff in them that should not be there. on a regular basis loaded weapons, and dangerous hazmat items are found. and to your statement of “security theater”. to be honest those screeners were there butts off day in and day out. they work in conditions that are not always comfortable and they are subjected to people who feel a need to curse at them and degrade them. it is a rare moment when a screener gets a compliment from a passenger. they are also the most tested work force in the government. you only hear about the failures it seems. why not go to the actual website http://www.tsa.gov on there is a running tab for the previous week of just the serious incidents for the previous week. and one final thing, in the five years that t.s.a. has been in operation and this is not counting liquids found. over 5 million prohibited items were found. sry for such a long post. just tired of seeing the people who work for t.s.a. who therefore are t.s.a. get what seems to me bashed all the time.

Redman:
I know where you are coming from. Everytime I see some TV anchor berate TSA for letting something through I wonder what qualifications are necessary for his/her job. To ask stupid questions? Make Americans doubt the professionalism of those entrusted with your safety? I would like to see them do your job, day in and day out. Preventing another 9/11 is an unachievable goal. The brass know that. But to admit it would be political suicide. I know you are doing the best you can. And yes I have seen some common sense prevail in many cases. Believe me, more people appreciate you than you think.

Sorry Rob.  That wasn’t so much directed at you as just a vent of my frustration with the whole farce that is the TSA.  I know you weren’t saying that this was the last straw, but that at some point people aren’t going to put up with this.  My frustration is that we’ve put up with too much already.  Removing nipple rings (which I personally find ridiculous in the first place) is just one more indignity to add to the long list of indignity we’ve had to suffer at the hands of these ignorant, power-drunk hooligans.

kbiel:
Looking back at the pictures supplied by Anna, had she used one of these metal objects to hold against the carotid artery of a flight attendent and made a threat of murdering her to bring glory to Allah and thereby caused death or harm to passengers, wouldn’t you be leading the charge to hang the TSA agent for failure to do their job? What about the rules and regulations promulgated by Homeland Security about such matters, if they call for such action, should the agent refuse to follow the rules?

While this may seem extreme, don’t we need more facts before we execute the TSA agent?

No matter the age or state of health, for a military man it is always glorious to tilt at windmills, rescue a fair Dulcinea and be a gallant knight in armor in a glorious cause.

Are you being serious Neiman?  Really?  Perhaps we should ban women with French manicures too.  Those nails could pierce someone’s skin and possibly slice an artery.  What about keys?  We really should have TSA confiscate people’s keys, they’re certainly longer than that bar nipple piercing and many are a lot less blunt.  Oh, and let’s not forget bras with underwires.  Those underwires could be used as a wicked shiv or garrote.  And speaking of people with metal plates in their heads, they could possibly head butt a flight attendant crushing their skull.  Oh, and all electronic devices with lithium ion batteries should be confiscated too.  If you short them just right, they make great incendiary devices.

Yep, we should throw all common sense out the window and make everyone fly naked, empty handed, and shackled.  Then we can be sure that no one can hijack a plane.

You moron, you cannot have everyone fly naked, if I were on the plane naked there would be many deaths from the violent vomitting that ensued. Then I would be charged with terrorism through showing grossly ugly body parts. So, that was really a stupid idea!

My point was, the one that went completely over your poor head today or that I expressed rather poorly, although I prefer to blame you rather than me, is that we don’t have all the facts, we don’t know what rules or training or other factors that influenced this decision; and considering that some of these body rings can appear potentially dangerous, we should hold off the hanging until the TSA agent get’s to present a defense. Maybe not, hell I like being part of a mad dog mob lynching just like other people and if we wait for the evidence it could screw up a really good lynch mob party.

Oh, I agree with you about how far things have gone ’generally,’ so much so that I refuse to fly domestically because I won’t submit to security crap. In this case I just feel someone should stand up for the poor TSA agent until more facts are in.

No matter the age or state of health, for a military man it is always glorious to tilt at windmills, rescue a fair Dulcinea and be a gallant knight in armor in a glorious cause.

Make everyone fly naked…

Hmmmm.  Talk about “Friendly skies...”

"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

The stakes are high. Whether the issue is the economy, or energy, or the federal courts or national security, the right answers are coming not from the Democrats, but from the Republicans. The surge of operations that began a year ago is succeeding. The only way to lose this fight is to quit. Richard M. Cheney, Vice President, 30 May, 2008

I agree with Neiman on this

While this may seem extreme, don’t we need more facts before we execute the TSA agent?

There is also an update in the readers blog

I believe the article suggests that the skin grows around the rings to where it’s difficult to get them out.  So ouch.

And Anna’s well-sharpened body jewelry?  Yeah, I’m sure MY wife would want sharp edges riding against one of the most sensitive areas of her body.  Just like I throw a few razor blades in my shorts when I go to play rugby.  Yeesh.  Don’t these people THINK?

(or is the TSA counting on women with implants losing sensitivity to that kind of thing?  Or maybe the nipple ring could be a trigger to a C4 breast implant....good grief I’m going into the territory of B movies and stag films!)

For what it’s worth, I’ve never been asked to remove my wedding ring when flying.  Oh, and if you’re curious; no, I don’t play rugby, nor do I actually put razor blades in my shorts.  Figure of speech.

Um, so please enlighten me Neiman, as to what part of my comment could be construed as a lynching of this particular TSA agent.  The closest I come to that is to hurl an epithet at everyone working for the TSA as “ignorant, power-drunk hooligans”.  And I think that is a particularly apt description since everyone of these policies and decisions have to be made by either the TSA agent enforcing a rule stupidly or a TSA supervisor/bureaucrat making a stupid rule or (most likely) a combination of both.

This episode was moronic.  Whether it came about because of the idiocy of the agent or some idiotic rule she was charged with enforcing is immaterial.

Skin growth around a foreign object? Now that is disgusting. That means she never removed or rotated them to cleans? These nipple rings are no different than earrings and to think that someone didn’t remove, let alone at least rotate them to clean is just down right nasty. Oh, and lets not forget the way it makes her stimulating nipple ring sex life seem, um ... zippo, notta, nonexistent?

Um, so please enlighten me Neiman, as to what part of my comment could be construed as a lynching of this particular TSA agent.

I always feel I have wasted my time in responding to some comments, when I use normal, creative literary devices to make a point. I was NOT accusing you of actually want to execute anyone through actual lynching, only that you seem to have absolutely concluded fault without allowing for the idea that more facts might support the TSA agent’s actions, even to your satisfaction. I regret my dry sense of humor and love of language that so often causes others to get their knickers in a bunch, when in this case I was not attacking you, only appealing for less asolute conclusions before all the facts are known.

No matter the age or state of health, for a military man it is always glorious to tilt at windmills, rescue a fair Dulcinea and be a gallant knight in armor in a glorious cause.

FYI: Wedding rings, other rings, necklaces and bracelets, rarely contain ferrous material (ie iron) or other metals with magnetic properties, so they will not set off magnetometers (ie the misnamed metal detectors).  Jewelry for piercings, on the other hand, are often coated or made of surgical steel in the areas that...um...go subcutaneous to reduce the chance of infection.

Neiman, do you always have this superiority complex or do you affect it only for this blog?  Do you really think I am stupid enough to think you were accusing me wanting to literally lynch the TSA agent?

I explained very clearly why I didn’t care what that particular TSA agent was thinking and that there is no defense to these actions in my mind.  The blame rests either with agent or with the TSA as a whole.  Since these incidences happen way too often, we can safely assume that the TSA as a whole is idiotic regardless of whether this particular agent thought it prudent to remove the woman’s nipple rings or was just enforcing a rule with which she may or may not have agreed.

redman -

The TSA website does not describe nipple rings as prohibited items.  It says you may be asked to remove them as an alternative to a pat-down search.

The woman indicated that she was willing to go through a pat-down with the female screener...so no alternative was required.

She also said she has flown several times before with the rings, and never had any sort of problem before.  Frankly, from the size of them, I surprised that she set off the wand at all.

And as for what they find in luggage, I’d suggest that a loaded gun in checked luggage is not much of a threat at all.  You do know that you can legally declare fly with a firearm in your checked luggage (ammo stored seperately, of course), so long as you declare it at the gate?  Aside from the microscopically small chance of an accidental discharge, what would the hazard of packing a loaded gun be?  And, uh, shouldn’t that show up on an x-ray of the luggage anyway?  If someone tries to fly with an undeclared gun in checked luggage, couldn’t you just ask him to give you the key (or take it from him after you arrest and search him)?

Yes, you can fly with your weapon in a locked container and ammo stored separately.

Communism is evil

El Jefe:

The TSA website does not describe nipple rings as prohibited items.  It says you may be asked to remove them as an alternative to a pat-down search. The woman indicated that she was willing to go through a pat-down with the female screener...so no alternative was required. She also said she has flown several times before with the rings, and never had any sort of problem before.

As more information is forthcoming, things become clearer. In time we may all feel some anger over this incident. Thanks for more facts!

Herr Dr. Kbiel:

Neiman, do you always have this superiority complex or do you affect it only for this blog?

Thank you doctor for your excellent diagnosis of my emotional handicap! I stand rebuked in sackcloth and ashes, flagellating myself and screaming out, “stand back I am unclean! Mea Culpa! Mea Culpa!” I feel so much better now!

May you know feel better now that I have confessed my sins against you!

No matter the age or state of health, for a military man it is always glorious to tilt at windmills, rescue a fair Dulcinea and be a gallant knight in armor in a glorious cause.

Nipple Ring Inspectors: New job title for the Teat S A…

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Proof:

Nipple Ring Inspectors

No, you don’t get to apply for this position, we suspect your motivations!

No matter the age or state of health, for a military man it is always glorious to tilt at windmills, rescue a fair Dulcinea and be a gallant knight in armor in a glorious cause.

Proof:  Good to see that you are keeping abreast on this stuff…

"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

The stakes are high. Whether the issue is the economy, or energy, or the federal courts or national security, the right answers are coming not from the Democrats, but from the Republicans. The surge of operations that began a year ago is succeeding. The only way to lose this fight is to quit. Richard M. Cheney, Vice President, 30 May, 2008

You mean I got my SAG card for nothing?

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SAG card

keeping abreast on this stuff

We only have one Crown Prince of Puns here at SA, will the real Prince Punster please stand up!

No matter the age or state of health, for a military man it is always glorious to tilt at windmills, rescue a fair Dulcinea and be a gallant knight in armor in a glorious cause.

Neiman:  We’re just exchanging a little tit-for-tat.

"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

The stakes are high. Whether the issue is the economy, or energy, or the federal courts or national security, the right answers are coming not from the Democrats, but from the Republicans. The surge of operations that began a year ago is succeeding. The only way to lose this fight is to quit. Richard M. Cheney, Vice President, 30 May, 2008

I knew I could count on you for an uplifting comment, Neiman!

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pparets, however, is still in his cups!

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Those of you still desiring to check the maiden, form a line to the right!

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....and Proof is a boob, still milking this issue. What an udder disaster!

"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

The stakes are high. Whether the issue is the economy, or energy, or the federal courts or national security, the right answers are coming not from the Democrats, but from the Republicans. The surge of operations that began a year ago is succeeding. The only way to lose this fight is to quit. Richard M. Cheney, Vice President, 30 May, 2008

If the TSA can’t uncover Victoria’s secret, then what good are they?

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still milking this issue

What an odd way to express yourself!

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And, of course, the obvious:

You suck!

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Proof: Now you force me to jog my mammory to come with jugs of puns.

"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

The stakes are high. Whether the issue is the economy, or energy, or the federal courts or national security, the right answers are coming not from the Democrats, but from the Republicans. The surge of operations that began a year ago is succeeding. The only way to lose this fight is to quit. Richard M. Cheney, Vice President, 30 May, 2008

Neiman, however, is old enough to remember Bob Hope singing: Thanks for the mammaries!

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Beat me by a minute! This from a lad who was probably weaned on movies like The Pacifier!

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Consider this your oral exam!

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Oh Lord, I sincerely repent for encouraging these multiple Puns of Mass Silliness (PMS), they are now lost in the land of punsters and may not get back safely.

No matter the age or state of health, for a military man it is always glorious to tilt at windmills, rescue a fair Dulcinea and be a gallant knight in armor in a glorious cause.

Hum a few bars of London Dairy Air for me while I head back to work! (Or London derrière, if you must!) Off with you now, lads!

A troll is someone who only wants to stir up trouble, not have an honest debate.  Some signs that a poster is a troll:
* Dodges questions from other posters * Refuses to give sources
* When one of its arguments is shown to be false, either ignores the proof or moves the goalposts.  Heh. (From the LGF faq)

Proof:  Ok.  I’m outta here too.  Off to HOOTERS!

"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

The stakes are high. Whether the issue is the economy, or energy, or the federal courts or national security, the right answers are coming not from the Democrats, but from the Republicans. The surge of operations that began a year ago is succeeding. The only way to lose this fight is to quit. Richard M. Cheney, Vice President, 30 May, 2008

I should have been here nipping it in the bud, (sorry, power outage here), but leave it to Proof to be titillating the punfest. And to think he gets paid while doing such foolery ... oh wait, so do I! LOL.. care on then

Oh Anna, I am sad to hear that you caught the punster virus as well. I thought you to be stronger stuff.

Well, thanks for the mammaries of the non-punning Miss Anna! Oh, lord I have to get to bed I think I am feeling the symptoms myself!

No matter the age or state of health, for a military man it is always glorious to tilt at windmills, rescue a fair Dulcinea and be a gallant knight in armor in a glorious cause.

Anna:  Didn’t you mean, “Nipping it in the bust...?”

"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

The stakes are high. Whether the issue is the economy, or energy, or the federal courts or national security, the right answers are coming not from the Democrats, but from the Republicans. The surge of operations that began a year ago is succeeding. The only way to lose this fight is to quit. Richard M. Cheney, Vice President, 30 May, 2008

Unfortunately (for others), I was diagnosed with incurable chronic punitis (and more) at birth. Genetic trait carried on my fathers side. It’s an easy disease to live with .... hard for others though
Tehehehe…

Anna: Ah, so it is not a virus, it is CPS! That is, Chronic Punitis Syndrome! However, it does seem to have the ability to infect others, maybe those commenting here should wear masks and gloves until all the puns are punted!

No matter the age or state of health, for a military man it is always glorious to tilt at windmills, rescue a fair Dulcinea and be a gallant knight in armor in a glorious cause.

Anna:  Didn’t you mean, “Nipping it in the bust...?”

That pparets! Always padding his part! Or Neiman saying “Land sakes!” (There may be snow in the attic- leave age out of it!)
While poor Anna has been under the wire to get power back on at her place!

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Is it a bit nippy in here?  I hope Rob will keep us abreast of what happens in this story.

Is it a bit nippy in here?

I thought you might have your high beams on!

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Still no time for the Dick cheney video, poof?

“If a conservative is still a republican after the last 13 years, he is blind to the fact that his party of choice has failed him utterly.” – Realitybasedbob

Zsa Zsa” Oh no, not you too ZZ? This damn thing is really infectious, Rob needs to quarantine this thread before it breaks out all over SA.

Well, TaTa! Oh lord, I still have symptoms!

No matter the age or state of health, for a military man it is always glorious to tilt at windmills, rescue a fair Dulcinea and be a gallant knight in armor in a glorious cause.

Still no time for the Dick cheney video

Still no time to justify or apologize for all your lies? Five days and counting!

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Again poof, it was Turners’ own quote about his pal Hannity, not mine, not yours, Turners’ own quote.

Nutters crack me up.

“If a conservative is still a republican after the last 13 years, he is blind to the fact that his party of choice has failed him utterly.” – Realitybasedbob

Anna, Proof, Nieman, Zsa Zsa:  There are so many knockers at the pun door now, that I hardly know which knob to turn first.

"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

The stakes are high. Whether the issue is the economy, or energy, or the federal courts or national security, the right answers are coming not from the Democrats, but from the Republicans. The surge of operations that began a year ago is succeeding. The only way to lose this fight is to quit. Richard M. Cheney, Vice President, 30 May, 2008

I have a feeling this topic will be milked for all it’s worth!

Zsa Zsa:  I agree. I’m already nursing a headache.

"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

The stakes are high. Whether the issue is the economy, or energy, or the federal courts or national security, the right answers are coming not from the Democrats, but from the Republicans. The surge of operations that began a year ago is succeeding. The only way to lose this fight is to quit. Richard M. Cheney, Vice President, 30 May, 2008

All I can say is, it is an utter shame the airlines feel obliged to have to go to such extremes. BUT we all need to support our security! This will probably cause a sag in airline travel for many… Sorry! I am out of control!!!

You guys and ZZ are hopeless, the virus has hit you all big time. It is like popcorn, you just can’t stop!

No matter the age or state of health, for a military man it is always glorious to tilt at windmills, rescue a fair Dulcinea and be a gallant knight in armor in a glorious cause.

rbb: Thanks for not posting an intelligent reply! (The shock might have killed me!)Instead, you choose to repeat the same lie you’ve been posting over and over again! (You don’t even get points for originality, boob!) If you would actually read the links that YOU posted, you would see that! (Of course, it would require at least half a brain!)

But Turner and Hannity’s relationship collapsed in 2000

A six year old could understand from reading that, that they are not pals (as you insist on lying about in a vain attempt to smear Hannity!)
Furthermore, according to the Nation, Turner admitted that he was not a racist during the time he knew Hannity:

But Turner and Hannity’s relationship collapsed in 2000 after the Hudson County Republican Party endorsed Turner’s primary challenger, Theresa De Leon, an accomplished businesswoman and dark-skinned Latina. “I had never judged people on their race, not prior to that point,

So to recap: You post an article entitled :

Views That Most White, Irish-Catholic Guys Hold

The non-friendship is crucial, in that the article hinges upon Turner knowing things to be true about Hannity that Hannity has not said! A man who he has not been close to in over eight years is supposedly reading his mind!
(Eight years??? Could be the interval between IrrationalBastardBob‘s Saturday Night baths!)

Are you sentient, bob? Is your only defense to repeat the same lie ad nauseum?

If you refuse to enter into honest debate, why should should I waste any more of my time with you? 

Bueller?  Bueller? It’s been five days, Bueller!

A troll is someone who only wants to stir up trouble, not have an honest debate.  Some signs that a poster is a troll:
* Dodges questions from other posters * Refuses to give sources
* When one of its arguments is shown to be false, either ignores the proof or moves the goalposts.  Heh. (From the LGF faq)

BTW, Thanks for trying to hijack other threads, since no one pays attention to your lying drivel where you post it!

A troll is someone who only wants to stir up trouble, not have an honest debate.  Some signs that a poster is a troll:
* Dodges questions from other posters * Refuses to give sources
* When one of its arguments is shown to be false, either ignores the proof or moves the goalposts.  Heh. (From the LGF faq)

It is like popcorn, you just can’t stop!

Not popcorn! More like...honeysuckle!

A troll is someone who only wants to stir up trouble, not have an honest debate.  Some signs that a poster is a troll:
* Dodges questions from other posters * Refuses to give sources
* When one of its arguments is shown to be false, either ignores the proof or moves the goalposts.  Heh. (From the LGF faq)

OR milk shakes!…

You guys are just a bunch of jug-heads

"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

The stakes are high. Whether the issue is the economy, or energy, or the federal courts or national security, the right answers are coming not from the Democrats, but from the Republicans. The surge of operations that began a year ago is succeeding. The only way to lose this fight is to quit. Richard M. Cheney, Vice President, 30 May, 2008

It will be a
black day when women have to
lace their corsets in the dark because
lingerie cannot be discussed openly!

Push up on the Great Elevator of Life!

A troll is someone who only wants to stir up trouble, not have an honest debate.  Some signs that a poster is a troll:
* Dodges questions from other posters * Refuses to give sources
* When one of its arguments is shown to be false, either ignores the proof or moves the goalposts.  Heh. (From the LGF faq)

OR milk shakes!…

Mmmm! Creamy!

A troll is someone who only wants to stir up trouble, not have an honest debate.  Some signs that a poster is a troll:
* Dodges questions from other posters * Refuses to give sources
* When one of its arguments is shown to be false, either ignores the proof or moves the goalposts.  Heh. (From the LGF faq)