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Saturday, November 24, 2007

Trutherism On The Rise In America?

That’s what this article is claiming, but from the way the poll is being reported I’m not sure how much trust you can put in its results.

Nearly two-thirds of Americans think it is possible that some federal officials had specific warnings of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks on New York and Washington, but chose to ignore those warnings, according to a Scripps Howard News Service/Ohio University poll.

A national survey of 811 adult residents of the United States conducted by Scripps and Ohio University found that more than a third believe in a broad smorgasbord of conspiracy theories including the attacks, international plots to rig oil prices, the plot to assassinate President John F. Kennedy in 1963 and the government’s knowledge of intelligent life from other worlds.

The high percentage is a manifestation, some say, of an American public that increasingly distrusts the federal government.

“You wouldn’t have gotten these numbers a year or two after the attacks themselves,” said University of Florida law professor Mark Fenster. “You’ve got an increasingly disaffected public that is unhappy with the administration.”

The problem, of course, is the word “possible.” Because anything is possible.  If you asked me if it were possible that aliens live on other planets in our solar system I’d say yes.  It’s not likely, of course, but it is possible.

But I’m sure the 9/11 “truthers,” who aren’t exactly known for being scrupulous with things like facts and reality, will latch on to this thing and beat all nay-sayers over the head with it for years to come.  It will literally be included in tin-foil-hat newsletters and underground web forums for years to come.

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it’s possible they over-sampled paulbots.

its vintage duh on November 24, 2007 at 12:24 pm
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it’s possible they over-sampled paulbots.

In a sample of 811 adults, 910 said they would vote for Ron Paul…
(You can see I was joking! No adult would vote for Ron Paul!) smile



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Proof on November 24, 2007 at 12:32 pm

As a result of things like facts and reality becoming known, it’s improbable that aliens live on other planets in our solar system but probable that some life form does exist on other planets and probable that aliens exist somewhere in the Universe.

As things like facts and reality become known about 9/11, it becomes less and less likely that Bin Laden was behind it which leads to the question of who did it.

The fact that the need for a “Pearl Harbor” type event to occur that could be blamed on Iraq is was written on the PNAC website in 1997 which lists members such as Cheney, Jebb Bush, and others who rose to power would cause any reasonable, open-minded person to be suspicious. That the plan laid out in the document “Rebuilding America’s Defenses” has been followed almost to the letter adds fuel to the fire.

Then you wonder how these people knew in 1997 that they would be in charge. Then you think about the voter fraud in Florida while Jebb was governor which gave Bush the election, unless, of course, you are blinded by your party affiliation.

ews48 on November 24, 2007 at 12:47 pm

And our resident leftard chimes in with,,,the usual stupidity.

811 respondents? And this is supposed to mean what? Who are these 811 idiots? Produce them, prove even one person actually responded to this poll. Show Me The Respondents!(shades of Jerry McGuire)


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2Hotel9 on November 24, 2007 at 01:32 pm
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Nearly two-thirds of Americans think it is possible that some federal officials had specific warnings

Isn’t it pretty much accepted that reports by the FBI agent(s) in Minneapolis and/or Phoenix were lost and/or ignored in the mess that is government?

FreeRepublicans.com on November 24, 2007 at 02:11 pm
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That’s a good point. A significant number of people responding to the poll could have thought they were being asked about the missed clues prior to the attack.

Which is an entirely different thing than being in on the conspiracy.  Incompetence, to put a word on it, instead of conspiring.


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Rob on November 24, 2007 at 02:31 pm

Not to mention that military anti-terror operators have been telling anyone who would stand still for a 1/10 of a second that this shat was coming since the F-ing ‘70s. The one factor precluding it having happened sooner is that it is damned difficult to get somebody to carry out a suicide attack after they arrive in the “Great Golden Mountain”, as the Chinese are wont to call America. The fact that civilian, non-elected bureaucrats absolutely ignored the threat, and the CIA outright lied about the severity of it until the late ‘90s.


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2Hotel9 on November 24, 2007 at 03:20 pm
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Uh, I’m confused.  On August 6th (8th?  I forget which) there were 70 FBI investigations of Bin Laden-related activity.  How would this be “choosing to ignore those warnings”?  Seems more like the FBI just couldn’t get these cases shut in time.

To the resident Truther:  Let’s accept your theory for a moment.  What would that entail?  That would mean that you’ve got hundreds of American civilians from those four planes executed or otherwise gotten rid of by the CIA, controlled demolitions set up in the Twin Towers (do you know how freakin’ hard it’d be to conceal an operation like that???), and thousands or millions of Americans lying about planes smashing into the Towers.  Oh, and the Flight 93 passengers were lying when they called out on their cell phones to report that they’d been hijacked.  There’s plenty of reasons that your theory is bs, but those are a few for you to munch on for now.

Math_Mage on November 24, 2007 at 11:18 pm
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