Say Anything Blog

Code Pink has not done anything illegal so to compare them with bombers is ridiculous.

Think of a
recruiting office
like an abortion clinic.

People of absolutist
beliefs detonate bombs.

True believers.

If the Democrats supported the troops as much as they claim too, they’d call off the dogs by disavowing groups like Code Pink and people who spout their kind of hateful rhetoric.

Agreed.  Who is going to ask that Republicans call of the dogs by disavowing right-wing radio shows that spout their kind of hateful rhetoric???

Nothing like a big ol piece of hypocrisy pancake to get the morning started.

Ahh, the violent leftie thugs, er, “peace activists”. /sarcasm

"If the good men are silent only the wicked are heard.” - Edmund Burke

Code Pink has not done anything illegal--is that why I’ve seen pictures of their activists being removed by police from the scene?

You know, I could take you a little more seriously, Hawk, if your comments bore at least some semblance to reality.

s that why I’ve seen pictures of their activists being removed by police from the scene?

What scene and where is the charge? 

Have them demonstrated peacefully and been removed by police for causing a disturbance?  Probably, but there is a great tradidtion of peacefully protesting this way.  Have they been violent in any way?  No.  It is irresponsible to compare Code Pink to bombers.

It is irresponsible to compare Code Pink to bombers.

Im not sure Rob was doing that. 

What was stupid was holding the Dems responsible and then illogically jumping to possible conclusions by creating a causal relationship between Code Pink and the bombing.

Do you think he thnks similarly about Radio-show hosts who rail against other organizations like the ACLU?  Nope.

It

’s groups like Code Pink that have been trying to run the Marines out of Berkeley.  How much of a leap is it from their accusations of “baby killer” to vandalism and bombings?

My bad, yes he was making a comparison.  I hope he is wrong.

Demonstrations are meant to intimidate, and are thus violent, even if they don’t directly involve physical violence.  Code Pink foments violence.
The entire concept of “demonstration” is designed to force minority views on the majority.

"If the good men are silent only the wicked are heard.” - Edmund Burke

they’d call off the dogs

Just like the Republicans called off the dogs when Timothy McViegh, a rightwing radical, blew up the Federal Building in Oklahomo. They called off all the skinheads, the neo-Nazis, the militant gun freaks, the KKK, the abortion clinic bombers, and all the other rightwing hate groups who always vote Republican.

This is probably a rightwing hit job, disguised as a leftwing hit job, intended to cause political problems for the Democrats. Probably ordered by Karl Rove.

robert108.  Well put.  I do not accuse code pink of this bombing, but whoever did this should be tried as an illegal enemy combatant.

Communism is evil

Um, Socialist, “call of the dogs” means “call off your own dogs.” I have yet to hear of a GOP officeholder speaking to any of the groups you mention--they leave that to Senator Byrd, D-KKK-WV.  (unless you call the NRA those “militant gun freaks,” and that case, you’ve STILL implicated the Democrats, who also seek NRA votes)

However, I have heard of a number of Dem candidates interacting with anti-war demonstrators like Code Pink.  See the difference?

Moreover, the ugly reality is that the anti-war left DOES do things that are criminal and even violent.  Pin it to Code Pink?  Maybe not yet, but the movement as a whole is involved in this sort of thing.

Do you think he thnks similarly about Radio-show hosts who rail against other organizations like the ACLU? Nope.

Any bombings of the ACLU offices? Nope.  Any large groups of “demonstrators” threatening ACLU offices?  Nope.
Another faulty analogy from you.

"If the good men are silent only the wicked are heard.” - Edmund Burke

Berzerkley brethren iza spreadin’.

Rob’s got a good concern in that the Democrats fostering of extremist attitudes may have contributed to the mindset that led to this atrocity.

However, a larger concern is has the Democrats actions of blocking surveillance of suspected terrorist directly contributed to this act.

The Debate is over!  Global Whining has been confirmed.

I think the recruiters planted the bomb. What better way to cause public outcry against the Librrruls? Watch this inspire Right-Wing wackjobs to take vengeance against the Librrruls and their beloved ACLU and Librrrul Media. Maybe some Right-Wing wackjob will take Ann The Man Coulter suggestion and bomb the New York Times.

Another faulty analogy from you.

Uhh...dont think so pet.  Rob’s statement is suggesting that they should have never been condoned.  His argument is they were condoned, therefore this is their fault.

How could have Democrats have of avoided Rons scorn?  But having condemned Code Pink in the past. (see below)

Not because I think any mainstream Democrat politician condones bombing recruiting centers, but because they’ve condoned groups like Code Pink (remember Howard Dean and Jack Murtha posing for pictures with them?

I keep telling you Robert.  You aren’t smart enough to challenge me.

Rob’s got a good concern in that the Democrats fostering of extremist attitudes may have contributed to the mindset that led to this atrocity.

Atrocity?  Isn’t this a little hyperbole.  Sure it is illegal, even a felony, but nobody was hurt.  The bomb was set to go off when nobody was there.  A strip mall got damaged.  That is not an atrocity.

I keep telling you Robert. You aren’t smart enough to challenge me.

Your faulty analogy was to compare conservative talk show hosts telling the truth about the ACLU to Code Pink advocating the destruction of Recruiting Centers.
It had nothing to do with anything Rob said.  You were wrong to make the comparison, and aren’t either intelligent or honest enough to admit your mistake.
To clarify for the retarded: While Code Pink and their violent “peace activist” compatriots have certainly advocated the destruction of recruiting centers, possibly leading to the bombing of the one in Times Square, no ACLU facilities have even been picketed, so the comparison is bunk.  Get it?

"If the good men are silent only the wicked are heard.” - Edmund Burke

AntiConservative.  Are you seriously thinking this:  “I think the recruiters planted the bomb.” is true?

Communism is evil

conservative talk show hosts telling the truth about the ACLU

What is the truth about the ACLU? Does it only make sense to Right-Wing nutcases like yourself?

AntiConservative.  Are you seriously thinking this:  “I think the recruiters planted the bomb.” is true?

Are you saying that the military isn’t smart enough to execute a “false flag” operation? Yeah, you might have a point there.

Anticonservative opines:

I think the recruiters planted the bomb.

Out Here
Rodney G. Graves

Persia delenda est.
Latin: “Persia (modern day Iran) should be destoyed”

The ACLU was founded by a communist.  The ACLU is anti-American.  They work against laws.

Communism is evil

It’s a conspiracy! I don’t doubt the courage and honor of our armed forces.

Anti- I’m glad you don’t paint with that broad brush like other liberals I know.
If one person does something out of bounds and is disciplined, that is good.
Care to explain the killings of millions and millions of people by communists?

Bombings and killings by liberal hate groups?

Lies by people like Arafat?

Communism is evil

Anticonservative

We are not impressed.

Out Here
Rodney G. Graves

Persia delenda est.
Latin: “Persia (modern day Iran) should be destoyed”

Anniversary?
BTW.. AntiConservative, there’s a lil’ ACLU knowledge in that link.

Oh, Boo-fucking-hoo… An army recruiting station has to replace a WHOLE pane of glass! Wake us up when some real news happens. *yawn*

The ACLU defends gay republicans.

Anticonservative:

The Colonel’s got your number, and it’s 00100:

Out Here
Rodney G. Graves

Persia delenda est.
Latin: “Persia (modern day Iran) should be destoyed”

Let’s try that again!

Still an accurate reflection of our level of respect and interest in anti and his opinions, mind you, but this is a more fitting send off with his number embedded:

Out Here
Rodney G. Graves

Persia delenda est.
Latin: “Persia (modern day Iran) should be destoyed”

Oh, Boo-fucking-hoo… An army recruiting station has to replace a WHOLE pane of glass! Wake us up when some real news happens. *yawn

Maybe you should provide your home address and give permission for someone to place a bomb by your picture window, then, if it’s not a big deal to you.  Sauce for the goose, you know.

As a taxpayer, I’m a wee bit ticked.  Or do you like paying more taxes, and risking the health/life of those around, so nutcases like this can play their games?

I think the recruiters planted the bomb.

Improper use of the word “think”.  With lefties, there’s not thinking involved.

"If the good men are silent only the wicked are heard.” - Edmund Burke

The leftie response here at this blog:

Oh, Boo-fucking-hoo… An army recruiting station has to replace a WHOLE pane of glass! Wake us up when some real news happens. *yawn*

Just give them enough rope.

We need to get some smarter liberals around here because this is just pathetic anymore.

Your faulty analogy was to compare conservative talk show hosts telling the truth about the ACLU to Code Pink advocating the destruction of Recruiting Centers.

Dude, youre wrong on so many levels here, not sure where to start.

1) I was comparing calling off dogs by disavowing groups who spew hateful rhetoric.  Referencing comment below.

...they’d call off the dogs by disavowing groups like Code Pink and people who spout their kind of hateful rhetoric. - ROB

2) Code pink doesn’t advocate the destruction of recruiting centers.  Do they?  If so, I would like to know.

3) Radio conservatives spew hateful rhetoric, about lots of things, not just the ACLU.

It had nothing to do with anything Rob said.  You were wrong to make the comparison, and aren’t either intelligent or honest enough to admit your mistake.

Haha.  Wow, you mean all of those references I provide where I quote Rob was just an illusion?

To clarify for the retarded: While Code Pink and their violent “peace activist” compatriots have certainly advocated the destruction of recruiting centers, possibly leading to the bombing of the one in Times Square, no ACLU facilities have even been picketed, so the comparison is bunk.  Get it?

Oh I get what YOU said, it’s you who doesn’t get what I said.

It’s like shooting fish in a barrel.  Neeeexxxt

Lets talk conspiracy:

We wasted 14 months getting to Iraq, while Saddam bloated himself and his UN associates with more “Oil for Food” money, and while he [Saddam] shipped his WMD out of the country so the Dems and the MSM would have some ammo for their propaganda campaign to aid the terrorists.

KoOKoOoOoooO!

Times Square recruiting Station?
Round up the usual suspects

Woof: Gay smear from a leftie; how typical.

"If the good men are silent only the wicked are heard.” - Edmund Burke

Let’s not.

Wouldn’t want to make you cry.

Out Here
Rodney G. Graves

Persia delenda est.
Latin: “Persia (modern day Iran) should be destoyed”

H: You should consider something more productive than filling this blog with your nonsense.  You made a nonsensical comparison, and I exposed it.  You got schooled, as usual.

"If the good men are silent only the wicked are heard.” - Edmund Burke

WOOF,

Out Here
Rodney G. Graves

Persia delenda est.
Latin: “Persia (modern day Iran) should be destoyed”

Woof: Evil Right-Wing fucks tried to blame gays for 9/11 so why not blame them for this little “false flag” operation that Cheif RZ claims is too “complex” for the military to execute.

AntioConservative: Maybe I am missing something here, but your thread would seem to suggest two things:

1.  Only a ‘right-wing’conservative would - or should - get upset at the bombing of a recruiting office. Why would that be? Are you suggesting that all other shades of the political spectrum regard this as no big deal? I hope not.

2.  The military unit operating the recruiting station might have staged the bombing for some nefarious purpose. And that would be?

Why do folks like you always denounce stereotypes and then immediately indulge in them by lumping all conservatives into some imaginary paramilitary, brainless mob of right-wing freaks?

Why do folks like you always resort to sarcasm: “boo hoo”, “a WHOLE pane of glass” and “real news”, instead of an intelligent discussion of why you believe this incident lacks relevance?

"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

THIS ELECTION IS ABOUT TWO THINGS: WINNING THE WAR ON TERRORISM AND SAVING THE SUPREME COURT.

We need to get some smarter liberals around here because this is just pathetic anymore.

We need to get some smarter conservatives around here because this is just pathetic.

Its always funny when someone who insults your intelligence makes grammatical errors in the process.  Nicely done Likwid.

Nobody condones this bombing.  Nobody knows who did it, yet.  The person responsible should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

Anticonservative

Identified, stamped

and appropriately filed.

Out Here
Rodney G. Graves

Persia delenda est.
Latin: “Persia (modern day Iran) should be destoyed”

Revenge of the
animal rights people
for the Marine puppy
toss atrocity?

Hannitized done showed us his skillz again:

Out Here
Rodney G. Graves

Persia delenda est.
Latin: “Persia (modern day Iran) should be destoyed”

AntiConservative - ...so why not blame them for this little “false flag” operation that Cheif RZ claims is too “complex” for the military to execute.

Where did he do that? You put it in quotes, so it should be no problem to show us where Chief RZ said that it was too “complex”.

You really are the anti-conservative. You’re not above lying about them.

WOOF,

There you go again…

Out Here
Rodney G. Graves

Persia delenda est.
Latin: “Persia (modern day Iran) should be destoyed”

WOOF - Revenge of the
animal rights people

They’re doing their revenge by giving his family death threats.

You made a nonsensical comparison, and I exposed it.  You got schooled, as usual.

If you believing that will make you stop talking nonsense, please enjoy your fantasy.

Reading comprehension Robby....it’s more than just letters put together to make words.

Hannitized knocks another slow pitch out of the park

...or, maybe not.  That’s gonna leave a mark.

Out Here
Rodney G. Graves

Persia delenda est.
Latin: “Persia (modern day Iran) should be destoyed”

Hannitized knocks another slow pitch out of the park

Ya see that Robby, Rodney thinks you’s a little slow.

I guess Rodney is still taking it personal that I caught him trying to lecture me about Zawahiri’s presence in Iraq.

Atrocity?  Isn’t this a little hyperbole.  Sure it is illegal, even a felony, but nobody was hurt.  The bomb was set to go off when nobody was there.  A strip mall got damaged.  That is not an atrocity.

We are once again privy to the logic of the jack-in-the-box that calls itself Hawk.

You see it’s proper in the delusional minds of these cowards, to burn down homes that don’t fit into their panoramic view of the environment. It is customary for them to scramble the brains of yet to be born infant due to own infantile reasoning and because it’s just darn inconvenient.

So certainly they see no dilemma in placing a little bomb in an office that houses those who are the bravest in our country. What’s the big deal?  Atrocity?

We can only hope that one day soon the a size eleven boot scrapes away the pebbles of their formicary and forces them to find another suitable habitat. A cave in Mesopotamia perhaps?

“To love is not to stare steadfast at one another...it is to look forward, in the same direction.”
Saint-Exupéry

likwidshoe.  I missed this: 

AntiConservative - ...so why not blame them for this little “false flag” operation that Cheif RZ claims is too “complex” for the military to execute.

Where did he do that? You put it in quotes, so it should be no problem to show us where Chief RZ said that it was too “complex”.

You really are the anti-conservative. You’re not above lying about them.

I do not think I used those terms.  Thanks for calling attention to this slight of hand.

Communism is evil

Ya see that Robby, Rodney thinks you’s a little slow.

Another nonsensical comparison from you.  Par for the course.

"If the good men are silent only the wicked are heard.” - Edmund Burke

I think it’s sad that no liberals here are condemning it. All of them immediately switch topics:

H: Well, sure this is bad, but conservatives don’t make their radio stop talking in “hate speech” (i.e. stuff we don’t like to hear).

Woof: Must be the gays!

Anticon: They did it themselves. AND Bush is a terrorist!

Hawk: LIES! Code Pink hugs Puppies!

Socialist: What about Timothy McVeigh?

Pathetic.

Kenny,

They’re too busy defending Curious George to worry about a silly little thing like a bombing in a public building.

“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

So certainly they see no dilemma in placing a little bomb in an office that houses those who are the bravest in our country. What’s the big deal?  Atrocity?

Words actually mean something sometimes.  If you call this an atrocity it puts it on par with what is happening in Darfur, what happened on 9/11, the abuse of children, any number of things.  I don’t know of an atrocity where nobody got hurt.  It was a crime and not a particularly serious one.

Kenny,

For them to condemn this act would be to admit it’s wrong.

It’s obvious they find delight in this action.

“To love is not to stare steadfast at one another...it is to look forward, in the same direction.”
Saint-Exupéry

Hannitezed offers:

Ya see that Robby, Rodney thinks you’s a little slow.

Quite a track record you have there:

Out Here
Rodney G. Graves

Persia delenda est.
Latin: “Persia (modern day Iran) should be destoyed”

It was a crime and not a particularly serious one.

Really?  Not so serious, huh?  Well, suppose you educate the rest of us as to just how many charges, federal and state, could be filed against the perpetrator here, and what sort of maximum sentence he, or she, could be facing when caught and convicted.

“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Words actually mean something sometimes.  If you call this an atrocity it puts it on par with what is happening in Darfur, what happened on 9/11, the abuse of children, any number of things.  I don’t know of an atrocity where nobody got hurt.  It was a crime and not a particularly serious one.

What? Darfur an atrocity?

You left out the time your barbie doll was crushed when you left it behind the wheel of your little red wagon.

Have your mommy look up the word for you.

“To love is not to stare steadfast at one another...it is to look forward, in the same direction.”
Saint-Exupéry

It was a crime and not a particularly serious one.

Hmmm! I don’t recall that being the reaction when individuals bombed empty abortion clinics!

Those who think the party or the country, will be “taught a lesson” by handing the levers of power over to the liberals will learn a lesson, but it will be at the expense of our country and her liberties. And there are no guarantees that the party or the country will come out stronger, more conservative or better positioned to win elections against the incumbent liberals.

Hawk - If you call this an atrocity it puts it on par with what is happening in Darfur, what happened on 9/11, the abuse of children, any number of things.

Really? What dictionary are you using? It’s a simple word with a simple meaning.

It was a crime and not a particularly serious one.

That’s a typical attitude coming from a liberal. You guys don’t like the military so for you this bomb is not particularly serious.

Any wonder why Rob thought that the left probably did this? Well there you go.

What? Darfur an atrocity?

You left out the time your barbie doll was crushed when you left it behind the wheel of your little red wagon.

Have your mommy look up the word for you.

I am glad that you think that property damage is worse than a tribal war where kids get there legs hacked off at the ankles.  Show a little bit of perspective. 

Really?  Not so serious, huh?  Well, suppose you educate the rest of us as to just how many charges, federal and state, could be filed against the perpetrator here, and what sort of maximum sentence he, or she, could be facing when caught and convicted.

Probably alot.  But I have dealt with murderers, rapists, child abusers and wife beaters.  I consider all of these more serious crimes, though often they will get lighter sentences.  NOBODY WAS HURT.  If fact this was scheduled to make sure nobody was hurt.  Was it offensive?  Sure.  But it was not an atrocity.

You see Bat; it’s the ambiguity of the word that is so complex to the weak minded.

Darfur is atrocious. The rape rooms and mass graves in Iraq are just unfortunate.

To ignore Darfur is a crime against humanity.
To interfere in Iraq is meddlin’ in someone else’s territory.

It’s all so clear.

“To love is not to stare steadfast at one another...it is to look forward, in the same direction.”
Saint-Exupéry

That’s a typical attitude coming from a liberal. You guys don’t like the military so for you this bomb is not particularly serious.

I actually served so don’t try this all liberals hate the military crap.

The military is not the conservatives personal plaything.

Hawk - I am glad that you think that property damage is worse than a tribal war where kids get there legs hacked off at the ankles.

Who thinks that? Can you link to it?

I actually served so don’t try this all liberals hate the military crap.

So? You advocate against the military every time the topic comes up.

The military is not the conservatives personal plaything.

“Personal plaything”? What?

The military is not the conservatives personal plaything.

No, indeed.  But it is conservatives who value the military for its proper role, that of destroyer of our nation’s enemies and guardian of our freedoms and our culture by the implicit threat of violent, deadly force.

“Meals on Wheels” was a Clintonian construct.

“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

I think it’s sad that no liberals here are condemning it. All of them immediately switch topics:

The fact that you too lazy to find our quotes condemning the matter is not our fault.

What is really sad is the fact that not one republican has thought that this might be a terrorist act, you immediately jumped to accuse your fellow Americans.

Funny that.

that of destroyer of our nation’s enemies and guardian of our freedoms and our culture by the implicit threat of violent,

Nonsense.  What freedoms of ours were we protecting when we invaded Iraq?

This is a typical point you see being made by the right, but it is untrue.  Our freedoms were never at risk before our invasion.  Poppycock.

Words actually mean something sometimes.  If you call this an atrocity it puts it on par with what is happening in Darfur, what happened on 9/11, the abuse of children, any number of things.  I don’t know of an atrocity where nobody got hurt.  It was a crime and not a particularly serious one.

Keeping things in context is important.  Google Marine recruitment center bombing atroicty and see what comes up.  Then Google nazi atrocity, My Lai Massacre atrocity and see what comes up.

1The “My Lai massacre” doesn’t seem to be quite the monstrous atrocity that Americans were led to believe. An alternative to the standard ant-American story:

http://anotherwaronterrorblog.blogspot.com/

Dont let their dishonesty rub you Hawk.  They are being petty children.

What is really sad is the fact that not one republican has thought that this might be a terrorist act, you immediately jumped to accuse your fellow Americans.

It was a terrorist act...you imbecile.

“To love is not to stare steadfast at one another...it is to look forward, in the same direction.”
Saint-Exupéry

Keeping things in context is important.  Google…

Google gives your occurrences, not context. Maybe somebody will give you a dictionary on your next birthday?

Those who think the party or the country, will be “taught a lesson” by handing the levers of power over to the liberals will learn a lesson, but it will be at the expense of our country and her liberties. And there are no guarantees that the party or the country will come out stronger, more conservative or better positioned to win elections against the incumbent liberals.

Here’s some “context” for you: I Googled “john wilkes toll booth” and got 70,500 hits!

Then, I Googled “Hannitized Kahuna” and got nine hits! (And only one of them was me!)

Those who think the party or the country, will be “taught a lesson” by handing the levers of power over to the liberals will learn a lesson, but it will be at the expense of our country and her liberties. And there are no guarantees that the party or the country will come out stronger, more conservative or better positioned to win elections against the incumbent liberals.

Keeping things in context is important

Yeah. Let’s forget about this little incident.
I’m sure Fibonacci would find your reasoning intriguing.

The recreant crowd that you and hawk commune with would be more than happy to dismiss this as nothing more than a small matter. That someone could have died as a result is inconsequential.

Let’s all join hands and pray that we concentrate on really important problems.

“To love is not to stare steadfast at one another...it is to look forward, in the same direction.”
Saint-Exupéry

Google gives your occurrences, not context. Maybe somebody will give you a dictionary on your next birthday?

proof, Is is too much to hope for...that there will be no next birthday.

“To love is not to stare steadfast at one another...it is to look forward, in the same direction.”
Saint-Exupéry

Sally: Be nice!

Those who think the party or the country, will be “taught a lesson” by handing the levers of power over to the liberals will learn a lesson, but it will be at the expense of our country and her liberties. And there are no guarantees that the party or the country will come out stronger, more conservative or better positioned to win elections against the incumbent liberals.

Churchill said a man who isn’t a conservative by age thirty has no brain! This guy’s just ten years behind the curve! Maybe with a little remedial thinking?

Those who think the party or the country, will be “taught a lesson” by handing the levers of power over to the liberals will learn a lesson, but it will be at the expense of our country and her liberties. And there are no guarantees that the party or the country will come out stronger, more conservative or better positioned to win elections against the incumbent liberals.

If fact this was scheduled to make sure nobody was hurt.

A bit presumptive on your part, or have you never been to Times Square.

Interesting smidge of video shows that whoever this was did not show much prognosticative ability; it was blind luck no one was hurt.

“To love is not to stare steadfast at one another...it is to look forward, in the same direction.”
Saint-Exupéry

Google gives your occurrences, not context. Maybe somebody will give you a dictionary on your next birthday?

Fascinating.  I never said that it did.  Thats what periods are for.  What Google does do, is give you occurrences, as you stated above.  It gave no occurrences that show others using the word where it really doesn’t fit so well.

What I had asked was to merely search Google.  If you had done as asked you would see that not many people use the word as loosely as you are.

Hawk was right.