If you had done as asked you would see that not many people use the word as loosely as you are.

…as loosely as you do.

H,

Your magisterium would be unhappy with your construct.

Perhaps a less parochial education would have been more fitting for one of your class.

Yeah. Let’s forget about this little incident.

Nobody is saying to forget about this hystericalpants. I am simply saying that right now, it looks like felony vandalism. No?

The recreant crowd that you and hawk commune with would be more than happy to dismiss this as nothing more than a small matter.

I would be careful about categorizing those you know nothing about.

That someone could have died as a result is inconsequential.

Who said that?

Hell, I even think firecrackers are consequential. Youre just being dippy.

http://www.unboundedmedicine.com/2006/03/20/do-not-explode-a-firecracker-in-your-hand-never/

I can see where someone as unsophisticated and, well, (truth be told) as dim as Hannitized might mistake occurrences for context. If you Google:

“incredibly mind-numbingly stupid”

the description of Hannitized is #13!

Anticonservative:

The Colonel’s got your number, and it’s 00100:

Let’s try that again!

Still an accurate reflection of our level of respect and interest in anti and his opinions, mind you, but this is a more fitting send off with his number embedded:

Here’s some “context” for you: I Googled “john wilkes toll booth” and got 70,500 hits!

Then, I Googled “Hannitized Kahuna” and got nine hits! (And only one of them was me!)

Hawk – I am glad that you think that property damage is worse than a tribal war where kids get there legs hacked off at the ankles.

Who thinks that? Can you link to it?

I actually served so don’t try this all liberals hate the military crap.

So? You advocate against the military every time the topic comes up.

The military is not the conservatives personal plaything.

“Personal plaything”? What?

conservative talk show hosts telling the truth about the ACLU

What is the truth about the ACLU? Does it only make sense to Right-Wing nutcases like yourself?

Demonstrations are meant to intimidate, and are thus violent, even if they don’t directly involve physical violence. Code Pink foments violence.
The entire concept of “demonstration” is designed to force minority views on the majority.

Code Pink has not done anything illegal–is that why I’ve seen pictures of their activists being removed by police from the scene?

You know, I could take you a little more seriously, Hawk, if your comments bore at least some semblance to reality.

It

‘s groups like Code Pink that have been trying to run the Marines out of Berkeley. How much of a leap is it from their accusations of “baby killer” to vandalism and bombings?

My bad, yes he was making a comparison. I hope he is wrong.

Churchill said a man who isn’t a conservative by age thirty has no brain! This guy’s just ten years behind the curve! Maybe with a little remedial thinking?

I think the recruiters planted the bomb. What better way to cause public outcry against the Librrruls? Watch this inspire Right-Wing wackjobs to take vengeance against the Librrruls and their beloved ACLU and Librrrul Media. Maybe some Right-Wing wackjob will take Ann The Man Coulter suggestion and bomb the New York Times.

Hannitized knocks another slow pitch out of the park

…or, maybe not. That’s gonna leave a mark.

Do you think he thnks similarly about Radio-show hosts who rail against other organizations like the ACLU? Nope.

Any bombings of the ACLU offices? Nope. Any large groups of “demonstrators” threatening ACLU offices? Nope.
Another faulty analogy from you.

Ahh, the violent leftie thugs, er, “peace activists”. /sarcasm

Rob’s got a good concern in that the Democrats fostering of extremist attitudes may have contributed to the mindset that led to this atrocity.

However, a larger concern is has the Democrats actions of blocking surveillance of suspected terrorist directly contributed to this act.

Keeping things in context is important. Google…

Google gives your occurrences, not context. Maybe somebody will give you a dictionary on your next birthday?

WOOF,

There you go again…

AntiConservative. Are you seriously thinking this: “I think the recruiters planted the bomb.” is true?

Anti- I’m glad you don’t paint with that broad brush like other liberals I know.
If one person does something out of bounds and is disciplined, that is good.
Care to explain the killings of millions and millions of people by communists?

Bombings and killings by liberal hate groups?

Lies by people like Arafat?

Another faulty analogy from you.

Uhh…dont think so pet. Rob’s statement is suggesting that they should have never been condoned. His argument is they were condoned, therefore this is their fault.

How could have Democrats have of avoided Rons scorn? But having condemned Code Pink in the past. (see below)

Not because I think any mainstream Democrat politician condones bombing recruiting centers, but because they’ve condoned groups like Code Pink (remember Howard Dean and Jack Murtha posing for pictures with them?

I keep telling you Robert. You aren’t smart enough to challenge me.

It was a crime and not a particularly serious one.

Hmmm! I don’t recall that being the reaction when individuals bombed empty abortion clinics!

Hawk – If you call this an atrocity it puts it on par with what is happening in Darfur, what happened on 9/11, the abuse of children, any number of things.

Really? What dictionary are you using? It’s a simple word with a simple meaning.

It was a crime and not a particularly serious one.

That’s a typical attitude coming from a liberal. You guys don’t like the military so for you this bomb is not particularly serious.

Any wonder why Rob thought that the left probably did this? Well there you go.

Google gives your occurrences, not context. Maybe somebody will give you a dictionary on your next birthd

ay?

Ha! This from the man who said this earlier today:

A million and a half hits on Google for “Bush chimpanzee”, Two million for “Bush chimp”.
What was that you said, dipshit?

http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/rush_limbaugh_caller_compares_obama_to_curious_george/P100/

Keep your story straight now. I know keeping up with your dishonesty is hard, but that is ridiculous.

Keeping things in context is important

Yeah. Let’s forget about this little incident.
I’m sure Fibonacci would find your reasoning intriguing.

The recreant crowd that you and hawk commune with would be more than happy to dismiss this as nothing more than a small matter. That someone could have died as a result is inconsequential.

Let’s all join hands and pray that we concentrate on really important problems.

Kenny,

Thanks.

It’s disgusting especially from someone who, in the past, has talked ill of ad hominem attacks.
I just ignore it.

Sally: Be nice!

What is really sad is the fact that not one republican has thought that this might be a terrorist act, you immediately jumped to accuse your fellow Americans.

It was a terrorist act…you imbecile.

Hannitized. I see that you have selectively chosen some definitions that suit your argument. There are many for terrorism.

Chief, I also provided a definition that said there are over 100 definitions for terrorism. I believe the context I used is pretty reasonable.

In my opinion, the bombing at the recruiting center today was an act of terror, and I believe than the US government will also.

I think it has a great chance of being an act of terror. But in order for it to be termed terrorism, there should be some evidence that suggests someone was trying to coerce government or influence an outcome of a political dispute. There is nothing to suggest this, yet.

Also, this was done at 3:00am in the morning. Hardly a time when people would be working or walking the streets. I believe based on the evidence now, this would be felony vandalism.

But I think it was despicable and I condemn it because of the location that was targeted. I think I am being more honest than most.

Move_Zig. Thanks for your links. I found this! — “In July 1958, the W.P.C. launched a renewed “peace” offensive at its World Congress for International Co-operation and Disarmament held in Stockholm. It got off to a shaky start, however, after the British philosopher and pacifist Bertrand Russell withdrew his sponsorship of the congress and denounced the W.P.C. for its refusal to condemn the Soviet invasion of Hungary in 1956 and the kidnapping and murder of Hungarian prime minister, Imre Nagy.” I did not know that about Bertrand Russel. At least he stood up to the communist front.
I viewed Imre Nagy’s birthplace and memorial in Kaposvár, Hungary several times. He was a hero and still is noted for his quest for freedom.

It was a terrorist act…you imbecile.

What I meant was, that nobody suspected Islamic terrorists, our current enemies in the GWOT.

But if you think it was terrorism. What is the change in government are they attempting influence? Why not vandalism?

One 1988 study by the US Army found that over 100 definitions of the word “terrorism” have been used.[3] Acts of terrorism are not intended to merely victimize or eliminate those who are killed, injured or taken hostage but rather to intimidate and influence the societies to which they belong.

Also, H,

Your condescending sexism towards our fellow female commenter shows a nasty side to you.

Your faulty analogy was to compare conservative talk show hosts telling the truth about the ACLU to Code Pink advocating the destruction of Recruiting Centers.

Dude, youre wrong on so many levels here, not sure where to start.

1) I was comparing calling off dogs by disavowing groups who spew hateful rhetoric. Referencing comment below.

...they’d call off the dogs by disavowing groups like Code Pink and people who spout their kind of hateful rhetoric. – ROB

2) Code pink doesn’t advocate the destruction of recruiting centers. Do they? If so, I would like to know.

3) Radio conservatives spew hateful rhetoric, about lots of things, not just the ACLU.

It had nothing to do with anything Rob said. You were wrong to make the comparison, and aren’t either intelligent or honest enough to admit your mistake.

Haha. Wow, you mean all of those references I provide where I quote Rob was just an illusion?

To clarify for the retarded: While Code Pink and their violent “peace activist” compatriots have certainly advocated the destruction of recruiting centers, possibly leading to the bombing of the one in Times Square, no ACLU facilities have even been picketed, so the comparison is bunk. Get it?

Oh I get what YOU said, it’s you who doesn’t get what I said.

It’s like shooting fish in a barrel. Neeeexxxt

Hannitized. I see that you have selectively chosen some definitions that suit your argument. There are many for terrorism. Here is a site you might want to look over. I saw the exhibit at the Oklahoma National Museum a few years ago.
Terror in America 1776 to Today. In my opinion, the bombing at the recruiting center today was an act of terror, and I believe than the US government will also.

Oh, Boo-fucking-hoo… An army recruiting station has to replace a WHOLE pane of glass! Wake us up when some real news happens. *yawn*

Anti-conservative laments the competence of the bombers! Intent, apparently, counts for nothing? So, if Timothy McVeigh had failed the first time, it would have been…no big deal? I don’t think so!

What I meant was, that nobody suspected Islamic terrorists, our current enemies in the GWOT.

Well…don’t I look foolish.

Of course, it’s so obvious. Islamic terrorists!!

Riding their bicycle over to the recruitment center to cause real havoc.

But if you think it was terrorism. What is the change in government are they attempting influence?

Gee…If I just had your political savoir faire, I might be able to put my finger on it.

Your magisterium would be unhappy with your construct.

Perhaps a less parochial education would have been more fitting for one of your class.

See, that’s the language that makes me hungry. Keep purring kitten.

When I discussed the true political landscape with Balint Vazsonyi, he agreed that instead of the Left Wing / Right Wing dichotomy (itself a product of Leftist terminology and mindset) resting on opposite ends of a single-dimensional Political Spectrum, it was really Americans versus Socialists.

I have seen nothing since that discussion in the late 1990′s to prove this any different.

The earmark of the Left in America (since the phrase American Leftist is a contradiction in terms) is their utter contempt and hatred for America and its traditional institutions.

To that end they have worked with our enemies to undermine our defense, create and exploit divisions with our overseas allies and to destroy the moral fabric of America.

Let’s be a little more specific:

When Roger Baldwin founded the ACLU in 1920, Earl Browder, then General Secretary of the Communist Party, USA, referred to the ACLU as the “transmission belt” for Communist policy. Today Americans have lost sight of the fact that at one time the Communist Party was the world’s premier enemy of liberty.

It’s not just the ACLU… There’s also the Institute for Policy Studies, a Left-wing front group posing as a think tank. According to the author, the IPS knowingly consorted with KGB officers during the Cold War and did such public service as disclosing the locations of allied nuclear warhead stockpiles.

Powell also explores IPS involvement in the peace movement. He cites IPS fellow Fred Halliday’s admission that much of the organization’s work has been “concerned with opposing and demystifying [the] claim . . . that there has been a fundamental shift in the balance between the East and the West over the past decade. . . .” IPS and its overseas arm, the Transnational Institute, maintain regular contact with Eastern European and Latin American Communists.

That Peace Movement, as it was euphamistically both here at home and overseas, was later exposed to be largely controlled and directed by the Central Committee of the Communist Party

Ponomarev’s First Deputy Chief is Vadim Zagladin, a member of the CPSU Central Committee. Because of its responsibility for dealing with Communist parties in non-Communist states, the International Department funnels its covert propaganda requirements through both the Communist parties themselves and, utilizing its International Organizations Section the various pro-Soviet international front organizations

While those who study covert Communist influence agree that the rank and file often have no direct knowledge of Soviet or Chi-Com direct contact, it is the very top (or cadre) of the Western leaderships who have the connections, while the mouth-breathing smellyhippy troops simply share the belief systems and are the willing stooges for violent demonstrations and terroristic acts.

One fine example of how a well-educated but Marxistically-deranged American took Socialist thinking to dangerous extremes is Theodore Kaczynski, who oddly enough, had Berkeley, California connections. Even more coincidentally, when they inventoried his jam-packed cabin, they found a dog-earned, highlighted, underlined and handwritten-noted copy of Al Gore’s Earth in the Balance.

Kaczynski, it seems, is a major fan of author Gore. A heavily underlined copy of Earth in the Balance was found in his remote cabin. However, according to the American Spectator magazine, the title somehow disappeared in future official references to Kaczynski’s library, apparently “suppressed to avoid embarrassing Gore and the administration.” Sources tell Insight that the Dole and Clinton campaigns negotiated an agreement that put the Kaczynski obsession with Gore’s ideas on ecology off limits.

The military is not the conservatives personal plaything.

No, indeed. But it is conservatives who value the military for its proper role, that of destroyer of our nation’s enemies and guardian of our freedoms and our culture by the implicit threat of violent, deadly force.

“Meals on Wheels” was a Clintonian construct.

Thanks, Sally. I did note the sarcasm from the “hanitized” tag, but I have encountered some who have been much more shall I say, illogical.

ManofFireandLight,

I’m sure the authorities are on the case and I would not be surprised if they had a suspect ID’d or in custody before long.

The reference to Islamic terrorist was made by hannatized, all other comments were satirical in response to that absurdity.

No doubt this is someone trying to ingratiate themselves with the code-pink crowd or as you say a military reject, but it is serious none the less. Robs’ point about the democrats courting and accepting groups such as these is and give credence to their values, is valid.

Never said it was, but then it’s equally fair to claim its the right pretending to be the stinky hippies.
And thus, you have found yourselves wallowing in the same mud. Welcome.

It’s not equally fair because your conclusion makes less sense. It’s like if some black dude woke up to find the word “nigger” spray painted across his garage. It’s possible that it was black kids trying to stir up racism (it’s happened before), but the more logical conclusion is that it was racist whites. ESPECIALLY if racists had been harassing him as of late (as anti-war protestors have been doing for…oh….4 years?). Occsum’s Razor says the simplest explaination makes the most sense.

We have a pattern of this behavior from anti-war protestors, we have no logical reason to believe it’s a setup (as that’s unheard of in military/war issues), we have the Code Pink people celebrating it…I’d call that a more than logical reason to believe what Rob believes.

Not true, so did RBB.

RBB hasn’t commented in this thread according to my “find next” button.

Didnt think I had to. I made the comment before your accusation and I am not guilty before I have to prove my innocence. It was your mistake, not mine.

Shrug, I characterized the rest of your posts accurately. I make no apologies. It was a very small mistake. You originally moved the topic off of the actual attacks, talking about “right wing attack dogs” to divert the subject. Only when called on it repeatedly, did you issue that “they should be prosecuted” statement while trying to exonerate Woof. (Though in fairness, maybe you didn’t see his comment.)

I think you compared me to 4 people? That would be 25%.
Yawn.

I got all of their arguments dead on, and I was accurate with yours too. That I missed a single condemnation gives me an accuracy rating of somewhere in the high 90s. Yawn indeed.

You don’t know what sexism is, or you wouldnt have said that.

She attacked me viciously, I responded with flirting. You would be surprised how many women respond to that.

You dismissed her arguments and threw in some snide remarks about getting turned on. That’s what you liberals like to call sexual harassment, chuckles.

Flirting is not an ad hominem sunshine. And you went for my jugular anyway. Personally, I think you were aiming somewhere else.

Yea, that’d get you fired from just about any job.

Chief,

I know your goal is be gracious and fair. But you might want to familiarize yourself with the individual you entertain as logical.

Hannitize only posts on this site to provoke and admonish. Never as he ever been constructive in his approach.

Additionally he fraternizes and gives comfort to those who would harm us. He is what you have always seen as repugnant.

Lets talk conspiracy:

We wasted 14 months getting to Iraq, while Saddam bloated himself and his UN associates with more “Oil for Food” money, and while he [Saddam] shipped his WMD out of the country so the Dems and the MSM would have some ammo for their propaganda campaign to aid the terrorists.

Referenced @ fstdt.com

KoOKoOoOoooO!

It doesn’t fit the MO of terrorists. No civilian casualties.

You mean Islamic terrorists? Laydownsally chastised me for that same mistake ya know.

Islamic Terrorists have done similar things, i believe.

Care made to make sure no one was there (so they couldn’t be charged with a more serious crime. The glove didn’t fit, so to speak.

Ahh, so doesn’t it also make sense that it could be someone planning to make the left look bad?

It’s not unfair to assume it was anti-war leftists.

Never said it was, but then it’s equally fair to claim its the right pretending to be the stinky hippies.

And thus, you have found yourselves wallowing in the same mud. Welcome.

Granted, you said that, but that was after SEVERAL posts putting the blame on right wingers for not “calling off THEIR dogs”.

Didnt think I had to. I made the comment before your accusation and I am not guilty before I have to prove my innocence. It was your mistake, not mine.

And you are THE ONLY ONE who even went that far

.

Not true, so did RBB.

My bad, I’m only 99% accurate, instead of 100%. I’m human and missed a post of yours.

I think you compared me to 4 people? That would be 25%.

Yawn.

Oh, Boo-fucking-hoo… An army recruiting station has to replace a WHOLE pane of glass! Wake us up when some real news happens. *yawn*

The ACLU defends gay republicans.

Kenny,

For them to condemn this act would be to admit it’s wrong.

It’s obvious they find delight in this action.

AntioConservative: Maybe I am missing something here, but your thread would seem to suggest two things:

1. Only a ‘right-wing’conservative would – or should – get upset at the bombing of a recruiting office. Why would that be? Are you suggesting that all other shades of the political spectrum regard this as no big deal? I hope not.

2. The military unit operating the recruiting station might have staged the bombing for some nefarious purpose. And that would be?

Why do folks like you always denounce stereotypes and then immediately indulge in them by lumping all conservatives into some imaginary paramilitary, brainless mob of right-wing freaks?

Why do folks like you always resort to sarcasm: “boo hoo”, “a WHOLE pane of glass” and “real news”, instead of an intelligent discussion of why you believe this incident lacks relevance?

Woof: Evil Right-Wing fucks tried to blame gays for 9/11 so why not blame them for this little “false flag” operation that Cheif RZ claims is too “complex” for the military to execute.

Atrocity? Isn’t this a little hyperbole. Sure it is illegal, even a felony, but nobody was hurt. The bomb was set to go off when nobody was there. A strip mall got damaged. That is not an atrocity.

We are once again privy to the logic of the jack-in-the-box that calls itself Hawk.

You see it’s proper in the delusional minds of these cowards, to burn down homes that don’t fit into their panoramic view of the environment. It is customary for them to scramble the brains of yet to be born infant due to own infantile reasoning and because it’s just darn inconvenient.

So certainly they see no dilemma in placing a little bomb in an office that houses those who are the bravest in our country. What’s the big deal? Atrocity?

We can only hope that one day soon the a size eleven boot scrapes away the pebbles of their formicary and forces them to find another suitable habitat. A cave in Mesopotamia perhaps?

H: You should consider something more productive than filling this blog with your nonsense. You made a nonsensical comparison, and I exposed it. You got schooled, as usual.

Anticonservative

Identified, stamped

and appropriately filed.

likwidshoe. I missed this:

AntiConservative – …so why not blame them for this little “false flag” operation that Cheif RZ claims is too “complex” for the military to execute.

Where did he do that? You put it in quotes, so it should be no problem to show us where Chief RZ said that it was too “complex”.

You really are the anti-conservative. You’re not above lying about them.

I do not think I used those terms. Thanks for calling attention to this slight of hand.

Hannitized. Thanks for your civil reply in the military bombing. We both agree to wait. Latest I heard was that possible Canadian crossings. We agree that if this is a planned terrorist bombing then enemy combatant status may be in order.

Kenny,

They’re too busy defending Curious George to worry about a silly little thing like a bombing in a public building.

I think it’s sad that no liberals here are condemning it. All of them immediately switch topics:

H: Well, sure this is bad, but conservatives don’t make their radio stop talking in “hate speech” (i.e. stuff we don’t like to hear).

Woof: Must be the gays!

Anticon: They did it themselves. AND Bush is a terrorist!

Hawk: LIES! Code Pink hugs Puppies!

Socialist: What about Timothy McVeigh?

Pathetic.

I

t’s not equally fair because your conclusion makes less sense. It’s like if some black dude woke up to find the word “nigger” spray painted across his garage.

Well, I think you are basing your decision based on your bias. Your comparison isn’t an accurate example either.

I think you summation is silly. They are equally likely and further both of those options aren’t even that likely. The most likely evidence is some lone whack-job.

I hardly suspect a group of mothers and Granny’s are responsible for this, especially when they advocate for the troops to come home safely.

Let it play out Kenny. Stop the propaganda and hateful speech.

We have a pattern of this behavior from anti-war protestors,

That is an irresponsible statement. What other locations have been bombed by anti-war protesters. Don’t be silly.

we have the Code Pink people celebrating it…I’d call that a more than logical reason to believe what Rob believes.

Can you link to some evidence of this? I couldnt find anything, but I didn’t look that hard because I just find that hard to believe.

RBB hasn’t commented in this thread according to my “find next” button.

It wasn’t this thread it was the same story in another location. It doesn’t change the reality that he responded to this incident and post in contrast to your accusation. I have no idea why this was posted twice.

You originally moved the topic off of the actual attacks, talking about “right wing attack dogs” to divert the subject. Only when called on it repeatedly, did you issue that “they should be prosecuted” statement while trying to exonerate Woof.

I did make that argument, because I just thought Robs request was incredibly ridiculous. I didn’t feel the need to condemn a bombing. Who in their right mind supports that.

Really Kenny, you are stretching here. This is totally up-surd. And your math really stinks.

You dismissed her arguments and threw in some snide remarks about getting turned on. That’s what you liberals like to call sexual harassment, chuckles.

Yes Kenny, I dismissed her vicious and unwarranted attacks on me. Do you see any reason why I shouldn’t?

I responded to her attack by flirting. Any unwanted flirting can be termed sexual harassment, if you want to go to that length. That is a far stretch from sexism.

Sometimes you just take your arguments to the silliest points. Why don’t you just grow up and admit this is nothing more than a blog, where people insult each other all the time, and quit pretending that my silly flirting jokes are serious.

If you want to focus on these things…i will entertain you, but it’s sort of pointless.

Words actually mean something sometimes. If you call this an atrocity it puts it on par with what is happening in Darfur, what happened on 9/11, the abuse of children, any number of things. I don’t know of an atrocity where nobody got hurt. It was a crime and not a particularly serious one.

What? Darfur an atrocity?

You left out the time your barbie doll was crushed when you left it behind the wheel of your little red wagon.

Have your mommy look up the word for you.

Revenge of the
animal rights people
for the Marine puppy
toss atrocity?