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Oh that gets me all riled up too.  They’re always happy & flirting with a person of the opposite gender.  I don’t even think they should allow people with genital herpes to get medication for it.  Seems to me, if you don’t use protection, you deserve all the consequences.

I have to say, those commercials bother me too. ALMOST as much as the feminine hygiene commercials… creeepy!

chilling thought for those of you still in the dating pool, no?

Rob, Not a worry in the world ... until your kids are in the dating pool, no?

Hey, k_lunch, maybe you want us castrated/sterilized and sent to concentration camps, too???  Guess what? Anyone can get herpes.  Yes, k_lunch, you, too.
I got it from my freaking husband, when I was 18 and a virgin.  Did I deserve it???  Give us a break and grow some heart.  Next time, the bell might toll for YOU!!!

I got it from my freaking husband, when I was 18 and a virgin.  Did I deserve it???  Give us a break and grow some heart.  Next time, the bell might toll for YOU!!!

Did you deserve it?  Maybe.  You had every opportunity to notice sores before you had sex.  You also had opportunities to inquire as to his sexual history and find out whether he should have been tested.  I really have a hard time feeling bad for you.  There are signs to see and conversations to have and one trip to the clinic can answer all questions after that.  You have just as much responsibility for yourself when you’re in a committed relationship as when you’re just whoring around, as your husband apparently did prior to you.  Don’t get all pissy with me, he’s the one you should take your anger out on.

The only way to be safe from sexually transmitted disease is to through the most perverse form of sexual conduct.

Celibacy.

http://www.cnn.com/HEALTH/9710/15/herpes.increase/

In findings published in the latest issue of the New England Journal of Medicine, researchers from Emory University and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention say the incidence of herpes has increased 33 percent since the 1970s.

One in every five Americans over the age of 12 now has the herpes virus, and the most dramatic increase has been among young white teens, the researchers said…

Genital herpes is a sexually transmitted viral disease that causes painful sores that subside and then usually disappear. However, because the disease sometimes does not produce any immediate symptoms, only 10 percent of infected people realize they harbor the virus, even though they are able to pass it to others.

20% of the population.  This is in the same viral family as chicken pox and cold sores.  This is NOT GENITAL WARTS which are painful and obvious.  HPV is blamed for many different cervical cancers and they have developed a new vaccine for HPV (Genital Warts) that they want to use on young women as a cancer prevention drug.

Did you deserve it?  Maybe.  You had every opportunity to notice sores before you had sex.  You also had opportunities to inquire as to his sexual history and find out whether he should have been tested.

That is a real asshole thing to say.  I don’t like the commercials because my 10 year old is like “Dad, what is herpes” but then again, he asked why old people need cialis and why it makes them want to stop washing their classic cars that are in the driveway.  What is the difference between taking Valtrex, Cialis, and Enzyte?  Real quick, why not start busting on people who take anti-depressants too. 

The commercials annoy me too, and that is a good point to make, but don’t start talking shit to Miriam.  Damn, bro, have some class.

The commercials annoy me too, and that is a good point to make, but don’t start talking shit to Miriam.  Damn, bro, have some class.

First off, I’m a female not a bro.  Second, I didn’t start talking shit to Miriam until she started talking shit to me.  My original comment was that these medicines shouldn’t exist and they should have to suffer with their disease.  I stand by that argument and as opposed to what Miriam said, I do not think they need to be shipped off to concentration camps or be castrated.  She jumped to a disgusting conclusion and I did not appreciate that.

My original comment was that these medicines shouldn’t exist and they should have to suffer with their disease.

I feel the same way about anti-depressants, pain medication, and cholesterol meds.  Get rid of the pharmaceutical industry completely.  I don’t like elective surgeries like breast implants or tummy tucks.  I don’t think that vaccines for diseases like the Chicken Pox should exist either.

These drugs exist because of supply and demand.  People want valtrex.  That is why it exists.  20% of the population is a pretty healthy target demographic.  And these are very profitable drugs.  Folks that have the disease might get married and not want their partner to get it.  You know, people who take Viagra might not want to disappoint their partners either.

Let’s talk diabetes.  Only people with juvenile diabetes or folks that have a good and healthy diet should get insulin.  Fat people that did it to themselves should be on their own.  What about people taking AIDS meds?  We should only give them out to people that got AIDS from blood transfusions, not heroin or unprotected sex.

Couldn’t agree more, actually.  Why is there no cure for cancer, but we can help herpes?  If you got the disease as an adult (or acting as an adult) you deserve to live with it.  It all relates to the main problem with our country: no one is held accountable for anything.

Second, I didn’t start talking shit to Miriam until she started talking shit to me.  My original comment was that these medicines shouldn’t exist and they should have to suffer with their disease.

So you started saying that there shouldn’t be a treatment for a particullar disease because you don’t like the behaviors that lead to infection?  And then someone with the disease said that it is a pretty messed up thing to say because she has the disease and got it from her husband when she was an 18 year old virgin.  I don’t know.  See, you don’t have the problem so you don’t see it as a problem. 

Now, the reason that this pisses me off is that I suffer from chronic depression and lots of folks have the same bullshit attitude about depression and psych meds.  “Just suck it up” or “It is your own fault for letting life get you down”.  If not for my anti-depressants, my mood would be far less manageable.  My wife is from a family that teaches “just pray about it” and God will keep you from being depressed if you believe in God enough.  And they offer the same kind of bullshit statements at the house when Zoloft commercials come on, not knowing that my wife and I both take anti-depressants.  Lots of folks have a problem with mental illness and I feel about the same way Miriam does when people run around making irresponsible statements about the disease, the causes, or the treatments.

I suffer from an anxiety disorder and have panic attacks so I know how you feel about your depression.  I don’t take medication, however because they all make me drowsy, but that’s beside the point.  Depression and anxiety are usually something that you’ve had since birth and it just takes a trigger to set it off and you suffer for life and the therapy rarely helps by itself.  There’s nothing you can do about it and treatment should always be available.

Miriam on the other hand should have had a chat with her husband before the wedding because even though people with herpes don’t immediately show symptoms, the first outbreak generally appears within 1-2 weeks of exposure.  He knew he had it.  If they would have been open and honest about things, she would have known too and could have avoided her problem completely.

Miriam on the other hand should have had a chat with her husband before the wedding because even though people with herpes don’t immediately show symptoms, the first outbreak generally appears within 1-2 weeks of exposure. He knew he had it. If they would have been open and honest about things, she would have known too and could have avoided her problem completely

Agree with all until the last point.  There really are several problems here.  First, her husband didn’t either know or tell her.  It is one or the other.  But that is not the bigger issue.  If she knew and loved the guy and there weren’t treatments 20 years ago, lots of folks simply made decisions to accept that the infection was inevitable between partners and they were willing to accept the consequences.  Valtrex at least offers a choice in the latter situation.

Now, what bothers me is certainly not that situation.  It is some 25 year old that has multiple partners and uses the drugs for suppressant features so that he/she is less likely to have visible symptoms and can continue to be promiscuous.  But these are apple and oranges different situations and certainly in the latter, I have no sympathy either.

BTW, Navy medic training here kicking in.  We had to teach Sailors and Marines about STDs.

I won’t share STD stories of the stuff I have seen Marines come in with, but…

Justin B. - “Just suck it up” or “It is your own fault for letting life get you down”.  If not for my anti-depressants, my mood would be far less manageable.  My wife is from a family that teaches “just pray about it” and God will keep you from being depressed if you believe in God enough.

I’d be careful with that kind of info around here. We have a hateful self-described Christian that has taken up residence here at this site. If he sees this, he might use it against you and make all manner of damaging assumptions and assertions. Then you’ll have to chose between either leaving the damaging assertions unanswered, or correcting the record. I can tell you from personal experience that this is a fruitless effort.

I think you know who I am talking about. Just be careful.

Our gracious host is exactly right that it’s a good thing to be married and safe(r) than in the dating pool.  Along with the stats on herpes (20%?  Yikes!), a 1999 NIH or CDC estimate suggested that about 65 million adults had had, or currently had, some kind of STD.

Using a “guesstimate” that married people are somewhat less likely to have these, it would suggest that there is a very high likelihood-->50%--that the person you meet in the singles bar has, or has had, a “gift that keeps on giving.”

And the commercials?  Well, the Cialis commercial killed off my love of watching football.  I wasn’t ready to explain what a “four hour...” was to my five year old daughter.  She’s almost nine now, and I’m still not ready.

So go Vikings--and take the Gophers with you, for all I care.  And be careful, single people.