“This Isn’t Your Father’s America”

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“The percentage of single women, minorities and voters under 30 is so large at this point that unless the Republican Party fundamentally changes its appeal to those voters, it can never win an election,” Dick Morris said on Fox News while explaining how he managed to get the presidential election wrong.

“What this is saying is this is the new America. This isn’t your father’s America.”

Food for thought.

Meanwhile, via Gateway Pundit, here’s the market’s reaction to Obama’s re-election:

Rob Port is the editor of SayAnythingBlog.com. In 2011 he was a finalist for the Watch Dog of the Year from the Sam Adams Alliance and winner of the Americans For Prosperity Award for Online Excellence. In 2013 the Washington Post named SAB one of the nation's top state-based political blogs, and named Rob one of the state's best political reporters. He writes a weekly column for several North Dakota newspapers, and also serves as a policy fellow for the North Dakota Policy Council.

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  • mikemc1970

    The Republicans have been moving towards the center. Two moderates, two defeats.

    • HG

      Rubio 2016

    • Davo

      No, the country’s moving towards the left, overwhelmingly so on social issues.

      • mikemc1970

        Obama 2012: 59,837,407
        Obama 2008: 69,456,897

        10 million people don’t think that’s true.

        • Davo

          4 states voted in favor of gay marriage rights yesterday.
          This country is becoming more secular every day. Right-wing social values are resonating less and less with the country at large.

          • mikemc1970

            4 states out of 57? That’s not a very big majority. 10 million people is a lot of people.

          • Davo

            Head. Sand. Buried.

          • mikemc1970

            Don’t stop there, bury the rest of you.

  • Game

    America is always an evolving country. It is not your “fathers’ America, or his fathers America or anything like that.

    In the next few days, Republicans will run out the tired talking point that Romney lost because he was to far to the center. However, Romney was all over the place. In 2008 he was the conservative challenger to McCain, and in 2012, he was a moderate. That shows how far your party has already went to the right. Romney lost for many reasons, but not being far enough to the right was not a reason.

    • JustRuss

      Our party has not moved to the right, Romney has always been all over the place. That is why so many conservatives had to hold their nose to vote for him. We knew he was a bad candidate but he was shoved down our throats, most who voted for him, were voting Not-Obama.

      Don’t take an analysis of Romney as an analysis of Republicans in general.

      • Game

        I am not going to
        disagree with you about Romney, however, Paul Ryan was the most conservative
        person ever on a major party ticket, and I don’t think it is a stretch to say
        he did nothing to help the ticket.

        So beyond that race, let’s look at the Senate. I believe that Democrats controllingthe Senate is a direct result of the Tea Party. If not for Sharon Angle,Richard Murdock, Christine O’Donnell and Todd Akin, Democrats would not have won those seats. However, all of those candidates were far to the right, and they all lost races that could have been one by a better candidate (with the possible exception of Angle). I
        also think you can add Rick Berg to that list.

        The bottom line is that all of the candidates above have ran a race as if they are running to be the president of the Rush Limbaugh appreciation society. Yes Rush has a base of people who listen to him, however,
        most Americans would never vote for him, and they are not going to vote for people who act like him.

        • JustRuss

          I do not know about the other cases, but Akin was basically CHOSEN by McCaskill as her opponent. The other two in the Primary were 150% better candidates, but at the last minute (about a week before the Primary) she ran an ad on news and radio, stating that Todd Akin was for shrinking or removing the Dept of Education, he was for limited govennment, he is a “conservatives conservative”, Too conservative for Missouri.

          Local Radio went dumb at that, everyone pretty much agreed “Why would you write an ad like that, unless it was game theory. The long game, get him elected because you can beat him easier.” That is what happened in Missouri, and conservatives fell for it. Reverse Psychology.

          I don’t think Ryan HURT the ticket at all, though some of his stunts didn’t help. Ryan would have been better as a front runner, just like Palin.

          But hey, what do I care. I’m going to move to Colorado, smoke weed all day and collect my government check. I’m a single dad of two kids, why should I have to work so damned hard for what I have? I’m switching sides.

          • AV

            Welcome comrade,

            But it’s not quite the free-lunch that you expect, before your first welfare check, you’ll be expected to read this:

            Marx and Engels’ Writings
            http://marx.eserver.org/

            And then you’ll have to show up to the welfare-office wearing a Che t-shirt:

            http://www.thechestore.com/

          • JustRuss

            Can I wear a beret instead of a t-shirt? I haven’t found a nice Che Polo I like yet.

          • $8194357

            AV is phil gay playing you russ.

          • AV

            If you think that, then you are an idiot.

          • $8194357

            Well then disqus is lieing to me..
            You came in as phil gay unregistered in my mail box
            a few days back and then a few hours later that comment was
            under “your avatar and name”…
            I have been called worse by better tho…
            God Bless ya..

          • AV

            Other people have had Disqus problems too. But I don’t use multiple IDs to spam & troll this site. That’d be too pathetic.

          • $8194357

            Since I don’t know you all that well and what you said about disqus is true, IMO…I will take you at your word.
            Sorry for the insult.

            I wouldn’t want to be mistaken for him either…

          • AV

            Thanks, and I need to dial-back on the personal attacks as well. Have a nice day!

          • $8194357

            No worries mate.
            In 100 years it won’t matter to no one…

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            Discus has some funny glitches. The other day, you replied to one of my comments and Discus showed it as “Phil Gay”. How uncharacteristic of him, I thought. When I checked my email, it had your name on the comment, and when I went back to the thread, it was properly attributed to you there as well.

          • $8194357

            10X
            Proof..
            Like I said below…
            In 100 years it won’t matter to no one anyhow..

          • $8194357

            How about Quinn the Eskimo gets here?

            Conservitive hunter extrodinair from the “nort land”..

            http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Quinn+The+Eskimo&view=detail&mid=965E68D0A8E4C13CF49C965E68D0A8E4C13CF49C&first=0

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            I dunno. I thought about that. According to the song, Quinn the Eskimo was the “Mighty Quinn”. This guy’s the “Mighty Lame Quinn”, so it might work.

          • JustRuss

            Am I what? No… just lacking an anchor at the moment and being lazy and just accepting defeat seems awfully attractive. All those benefits and all I have to do is surrender.

          • chris

            Palin for president…that´s a scary idea!!

          • JustRuss

            Didn’t say she’d win, just that she was a better candidate than McCain for President. People were calling for Ryan since his budget proposal, he was a better candidate than Romney.

            Not that saying they were bettter than McCain and Romney is saying much. Better for conservatism, not better for electability; not after going through the Primary process.

    • sbark

      Romney lost becuase in a nation of never maturing adolescants……….a man preaching indiviiduals, hard work and responsibility—–cannot compete with a give it away Santa claus who also has a weapon in his other hand stealing it from others.

      • JustRuss

        Come on sbark! Haven’t you ever seen Robin Hood? Rob from the rich to give to the Poor! He was a Hero! I prefer the fox Robin Hood from the Disney Cartoon myself. Or Men in Tights! Now that’s the ticket

      • $8194357

        2 tru 4 marxist skool
        sbark

  • HG

    Appealing to minorities is the answer, just not with redistribution, amnesty, etc. We must appeal to their sense of freedom and the many benefits to themselves, their children, and society liberty secures. The last two moderates we ran lost.

  • Phil Gay

    The tax-paying American citizens were all losers Tuesday!

  • Harold

    Never thought socialism would be the law of the land in america. I was wrong, so now I need to find out what I’m qualified for and should be getting from the govt. That will be new for me, cuz I’ve always worked for what I have this will be the first time the govt will meet all my daily needs. Go Obama.

  • JustRuss

    Good day to everyone, I have decided that I’m done thinking for myself. I’m done with “personal responsibility” and I no longer detest government programs. If I can work this hard to lose an election, then it isn’t worth it.

    I’m done working hard to pay for other people to stay home, I have kids too you know, I’m a single dad. I should stay home with them and collect welfare instead of working and sending them to daycare. I’m tired of paying for my healthcare, my phone, my utility bills and my rent.

    I want to be taken care of.

    Today is a new day, I’m switching sides. I give up on Republicans.

    Libertarians better make large strides before the next election so that I don’t feel like I’m wasting my vote. I would much rather go Libertarian than Democrat/Socialist, but hey, screw it, I’m going with the winner.

    Maybe I can stop being racist now too? Is that up to me, or is it up to my new party to remove that label from me?

  • http://thepoliticalinformer.com/ John-Pierre Maeli

    Are we going to bend our beliefs and values to acquire a group’s vote?

    I’d rather be alone then be surrounded by bribed degenerates.

    • Neiman

      Amen to that!

  • Neiman

    So the GOP must lose its core values and become more like Democrats if they hope to win? Will each of you sell your own soul for a mess of pottage? The answer is yes! Even Rob has often counseled we should give up the social/moral, family values issues, if we want to win.

    I always go back to that admonition, “It is said we must go along if we are to survive, to which the question becomes, survive as what?” Is survival the ultimate goal, is there at long last no value in sacrificing ones honor, wealth and safety for higher goals?

    I tell you that almost everyone here at SAB will over time, in the next decade, perhaps less, sacrifice every value they have ever believed in just to survive, to keep from starving and losing their lives. That is the end goal of fallen human kind, every man and woman will follow the antichrist and the values of hell out of craven fear rather than to stand against the mob.

    Thank God our Founding Fathers were not like you people and I fear that most my children and grandchildren and now even great grandchildren will follow you into hell, because it is easier to go along rather than fight for what is good.

    • http://realitybasedbob.sayanythingblog.com/ realitybasedbob

      Old Pal, gop gave up it’s core values when it re-elected Raygun.
      God has truly blessed America with another 4 years of honest leadership under Barack Hussein Obama.

      • Neiman

        No, as usual you are demonstrably wrong. How can Barry Sotero, born a Muslim, part of a Black Separatist, anti-white, racist, false Christian Church, being pro-abortion even outside the womb, pro-abortion generally (wherein your party has slaughtered helpless, innocent babies in the womb by the tens of millions), being for gay rights and gay marriage, an enemy of Israel – the Apple of God’s Eye, pro-Palestinian, who supports the lie of separation of Church and State be blessed by the Almighty God Whom he opposes with his every breath?

        No, God gave us freewill and by their freewill choice America yesterday chose an agent of antichrist (Obama) as their leader again, having given America a chance to repent, and now by His Permissive Will, He allowed us to turn away from Him and towards hell. You can rage and play your games, but you have admitted you are not a Christian, thus being an enemy of Christ and on Judgment Day, you will scream and weep and rage begging for a forgiveness that will never come, because that choice must be made in this life.

        America should this day, in sackcoth and ashes be weeping for America, it is lost and hell reigns in this land by your choice.

        You have sold your miserable soul for a weak, poisonous mess of socialist, antichrist pottage and He will judge you as He will the whole world.

        Oh, and I NOT your pal.

      • Tess

        Honest leadership??? Brahahahaha…
        Like when he says he’s going to reduce the debt, after he’s added $6 trillion to it.

        • mikemc1970

          No, like when he says that protestors, angry over some video they had never seen or heard of, caused the death of our Ambassador to Libya, when actually he knew, with in two hours of the start of it, that it was an Al Qaeda linked terrorist attack.

    • chris

      Our key founding fathers were philosophers and Masons and Deists. They were children of the Age of Enlightenment, and their role models were the likes of Isaac Newton and Thomas Paine. They took the ideas of democracy and their emblematic architecture and symbology from Ancient Greece and Egypt. The Bible isn’t mentioned or referenced anywhere in the Constitution or other key writings.

      • Neiman

        You speak from a liberal, revisionist history point of view, not the facts. We were often called a nation of Christian States (colonies). In order to make sure no one Christian denomination became the State Christian Church, we have freedom of religion and that thanks to Christians.

        “While we are zealously performing the duties of good citizens and
        soldiers, we certainly ought not to be inattentive to the higher duties
        of religion. To the distinguished character of Patriot, it should be our
        highest glory to add the more distinguished character of Christian.”

        –The Writings of Washington, pp. 342-343.

        John Adams

        2nd U.S. President and Signer of the Declaration of Independence

        “Suppose a nation in some distant Region should take the Bible
        for their only law Book, and every member should regulate his conduct by
        the precepts there exhibited! Every member would be obliged in
        conscience, to temperance, frugality, and industry; to justice,
        kindness, and charity towards his fellow men; and to piety, love, and
        reverence toward Almighty God … What a Eutopia, what a Paradise would
        this region be.”

        –Diary and Autobiography of John Adams, Vol. III, p. 9.

        Thomas Jefferson

        3rd U.S. President, Drafter and Signer of the Declaration of Independence

        “God who gave us life gave us liberty. And can the liberties of a
        nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a
        conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are of the
        Gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with His wrath?
        Indeed, I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that
        His justice cannot sleep forever; That a revolution of the wheel of
        fortune, a change of situation, is among possible events; that it may
        become probable by Supernatural influence! The Almighty has no attribute
        which can take side with us in that event.”

        –Notes on the State of Virginia, Query XVIII, p. 237.

        “I am a real Christian – that is to say, a disciple of the doctrines of Jesus Christ.”

        –The Writings of Thomas Jefferson, p. 385.

        John Hancock

        1st Signer of the Declaration of Independence

        “Resistance to tyranny becomes the Christian and social duty of
        each individual. … Continue steadfast and, with a proper sense of your
        dependence on God, nobly defend those rights which heaven gave, and no
        man ought to take from us.”

        –History of the United States of America, Vol. II, p. 229.

        You conveniently forget the Northwest Treaty that is the blueprint for statehood, penned by Jefferson, strongly encourages the teaching and use of the Christian bible in all our schools to teach morality, which is the only sure foundation for liberty.

        As usual, you are in serious error.

        • http://realitybasedbob.sayanythingblog.com/ realitybasedbob

          As usual, you are in serious error.

          Authored by American diplomat Joel Barlow in 1796, the following treaty was sent to the floor of the Senate, June 7, 1797, where it was read aloud in its entirety and unanimously approved. John Adams, having seen the treaty, signed it and proudly proclaimed it to the Nation.

          Art. 11. As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of Mussulmen; and, as the said States never entered into any war, or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties, that no pretext arising from religious opinions, shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.

          • Neiman

            More lies from Gay Bob the Prince of Liars

            The Barlow translation is at best a poor attempt at a paraphrase or summary of the sense of the Arabic . . . . Most extraordinary (and wholly unexplained) is the fact that Article 11 of the Barlow translation, with its famous phrase, ‘the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion,’ does not exist at all [in the Arabic]. There is no Article 11 in the Arabic]. The Arabic text which is between Articles 10 and 12 is in form a letter, crude and flamboyant and withal quite unimportant, from the Dey of Algiers to the Pasha of Tripoli. How that script came to be written and to be regarded, as in the Barlow translation, as Article 11 of the treaty as there written, is a mystery and seemingly must remain so. Nothing in the diplomatic correspondence of the time throws any light whatever on the point.

            It denies the many statements I have often posted here wherein almost all of our Founding Fathers often referred to this country as a Christian Nation, not officially, but in spirit and the facts in support thereof cannot be denied except by a damnable, self deceived liar.

            As it was desirable to make the oppose piracy as acts of theft, not a holy war against Islam, this treaty and those of other countries tried to downplay the religious aspects and fight against piracy alone.

            Your ignorance of all thing is appalling.

          • http://realitybasedbob.sayanythingblog.com/ realitybasedbob

            And yet, Old Pal, there it stands, passed in unanimity by men we call our founding fathers.

          • Neiman

            I am not your pal Gay Bob, prince of liars.

            “The highest glory of the American Revolution was this: it connected, in one indissoluble bond, the principles of civil government with the principles of Christianity.”
            – John Adams

            It cannot be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great Nation was founded not by religionists, but by Christians; not on religions, but on the Gospel of Jesus Christ.- Patrick Henry

            Providence has given to our people the choice of their rulers, and it is their duty – as well as privilege and interest – of our Christian nation to select and prefer Christians for their rulers.
            – John Jay

            We recognize no sovereign but God, and no King but Jesus.
            – John Adams and John Hancock

            “I verily believe Christianity necessary to the support of civil society. One of the beautiful boasts of our municipal jurisprudence is that Christianity is a part of the Common Law … There never has been a period in which the Common Law did not recognize Christianity as lying its foundations.”
            – Supreme Court Justice Joseph Story, Harvard Speech, 1829

            “This is a Christian nation”

            – United States Supreme Court Decision in Church of the Holy Trinity v. United States, 1892

            “Our laws and our institutions must necessarily be based upon and embody the teachings of The Redeemer of mankind. It is impossible that it should be otherwise; and in this sense and to this extent our civilization and our institutions are emphatically Christian…This is a Christian nation”

            – United States Supreme Court Decision in Church of the Holy Trinity v. United States, 1892

            “We have staked the whole future of our new nation, not upon
            the power of government; far from it. We have staked the future of all
            our political constitutions upon the capacity of each of ourselves to
            govern ourselves according to the moral principles of the Ten
            Commandments.”

            – James Madison

            “Religion [is] the basis and foundation of Government”

            – James Madison

            “Cursed be all that learning that is contrary to the cross of Christ.”
            – James Madison

            This was the unanimous opinion of our Founding Fathers and is greater than a single treaty design not to cause Muslims to think stopping their piracy was a holy war against Islam. One treaty cannot undermine all else in word and deed. Now shut up and go talk to your father in hell.

          • http://realitybasedbob.sayanythingblog.com/ realitybasedbob

            Art. 11. As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion

          • Neiman

            Article 11 does not say anything like you are suggesting.

            I know you lack the intelligence or honesty to engage in civil debate, but I did not ever say America was a Christian Nation by Constitutional decree. What I have asserted is the following:

            1. Our original colonies were Christian by law and their nature.

            2. Our people from the Pilgrims to long after our founding, was made up of almost wholly Christian leaders and a mostly Christian people.

            3. That our laws, based on Common Law were founded on the Ten Commandments.

            4. That by design, as our founders stated, this Constitution was suited only for a moral, religious people, it would work for no other, like your socialism.

            5. At our origin, while resisting any official connection between Church and State that would allow a National Christian Denomination, the entire a fabric of our Declaration of Independence, which is our national charter, setting forth those national goals that would be enshrined in law by the Constitution, honored Almighty God the Creator and most, even deist Founding Fathers, declared our nation would fall when we abandoned those Judeo-Christian values, as we have in recent decades under liberal rule.

            6. The words and actions of our Founding Fathers, buying and encouraging the Christian Bible to be taught in all our schools, Christian and only Christian chaplains appointed and only Christian prayers uttered in all our government meetings, and a host of other actions together prove without any shadow of a doubt they saw us in Spirit, as mostly a Christian nation and that spirit ruled until that rotting pig in hell Hugo Black created out of whole cloth a separation of Church and State which in no way, shape, manner or form existed; and thereafter, liberals set about a war against the Christian faith, kicked God out of the public square, started murdering babies in the tens of millions and endorsed sexual depravity like homosexuality; and telling their lies loud enough and often enough that they convinced a bunch of fools that Christ was an enemy of this country.

            Your side, the side of antichrist has won, they will keep winning, while polls say otherwise, we are no longer a Christian nation, voting in Obama put the seal on that matter. Now, we will decay and fall and you will keep raging against Christ and His Church and promote national immorality. Congratulations!

          • $8194357

            YUP.

  • WTF!

    When Obama is done with us, we’ll all be having drug-induced group sex for breakfast.

    • Someone

      And the problem you have with that is…..?

  • davo

    What possible reasons exist to take seriously anything Dick Morris has to say about the results of this election? The man is a charlatan. The way he “managed to get the presidential election wrong” is that he didn’t do any of the research necessary to cast an intelligent and informed prediction.

  • yamyam

    YES! A New America! A better one, more diverse, fair and not as racist and backwards. That segment is shrinking and will soon whither and fall off.

    PS. The market drop was more due to problems at Apple. Let’s not forget that it was 8000 at the beginning of Obama’s first term and rose to nearly 14,000 now. You conservatives would know that if you had any money invested over the last four years.

  • chris

    Just think, maybe the next presidential hopeful for the democrats will be a white evangelical, and you won’t be so uneasy about him.

  • $8194357

    Not my fathers America……….

    No shit sherlock..

    communists versus the Constituion…

    http://freedomoutpost.com/2012/11/petitions-to-white-house-grant-tx-la-peaceful-withdraw-from-us/

    Quote:

    The petition was clear and to the point:

    “When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.”
    “…Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and institute new Government…”

    Lest you think this petition is isolated. A petition was begun on Friday for Texas to peacefully withdraw from the United States of America and create its own new government. The petition reads:

    The US continues to suffer economic difficulties stemming from the federal government’s neglect to reform domestic and foreign spending. The citizens of the US suffer from blatant abuses of their rights such as the NDAA, the TSA, etc. Given that the state of Texas maintains a balanced budget and is the 15th largest economy in the world, it is practically feasible for Texas to withdraw from the union, and to do so would protect it’s citizens’ standard of living and re-secure their rights and liberties in accordance with the original ideas and beliefs of our founding fathers which are no longer being reflected by the federal government.

  • $8194357

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=CIk1pY7Yg8U

    http://godfatherpolitics.com/8017/college-students-cheer-for-karl-marx-socialism-and-barack-obama/

    It’s been said that if you want to find out where Communism is thriving, then go to America’s college campuses. Communism and Socialism are alive and well in America among those who depend on the hard work of capitalists. Without economic freedom, Socialism wouldn’t be possible. The former Prime Minister of Great Britain said, “Socialist governments traditionally do make a financial mess. They always run out of other people’s money.”[1]

    It goes deeper than this. There are a number of professors who are outspoken apologists for Communist dictators. For example, Grover Furr, a professor in Medieval English at Montclair State University, from the deep blue pro-Obama state of New Jersey, “recently denied Soviet Union Leader Joseph Stalin was responsible for the murder of millions, saying he has ‘yet to find one crime – one crime that Stalin committed.’ . . . I know they say he killed 20, 30, 40 million people,’ but ‘It’s bulls**t.’” Our tax dollars at work educating the next generation of freeloading voters.

    Most students are in college on someone else’s dime. State universities are funded by tax payers. In-state tuition is subsidized by money confiscated by property owners in the form of property taxes, sales taxes, and state income taxes.

    Most young people grow up under socialism. Everything is paid for them – food, clothing, shelter – by someone else, namely, their parents. They expect their parents to pay for their college education as well, and when they can’t afford it, it’s off to government-backed loans and grants and subsidized tuition.

    Let’s not forget that one of the planks of the Communist Manifesto is, in addition to “a heavy progressive or graduated income tax” is “free education for all children in public schools.” “Free education comes with a price – bondage to the State. A majority of California voters voted to increase taxes on the wealthy to pay for their “free” education. Karl Marx would be so proud.

    The youth vote was big for Obama, so it’s no surprise that

    “A group of college students chanted ‘Karl Marx’ and ‘socialism’ while celebrating President Obama’s electoral victory in front of the White House late Tuesday night, a video shot by Campus Reform reveals.
    “The raucous group of students chanted ‘Karl Marx, Karl Marx, Karl Marx,’ and cited abortion, socialism, and ‘Obama phones’ as reasons for their support of President Obama’s second term.”

    “One student from Howard stated she couldn’t vote for Romney because ‘I can’t support someone who wants to take away financial aid.’” Here’s the video from Campus Reform (WARNING: Explicit language):

    Read more: http://godfatherpolitics.com/8017/college-students-cheer-for-karl-marx-socialism-and-barack-obama/#ixzz2BwSkNlxo
    Yes sir…it is what it is…A marxist indoctrinated society of
    traditional Constitutional Republic rule of law haters…

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