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Monday, December 01, 2008


Things Aren’t Looking Good For Franken In The Senate Recount

The margins are still slim, but at least one election official says Coleman lead is big enough that Franken won’t be overcoming it.

  While a tiny margin separates the candidates in the Minnesota U.S. Senate race, it is wide enough that Democrat Al Franken faces a daunting task in challenging votes to erase Sen. Norm Coleman’s lead.

  The two sides have disputed thousands of the other’s votes, but many of those challenges are regarded by experts as frivolous.

  To win his case before the state Canvassing Board, Franken must prevail on more than 6 percent of his challenges of Coleman votes even if Coleman fails to succeed on any of his challenges, a Star Tribune analysis shows.

  If the outcome of past election disputes provides a clue, Franken will have a hard time reversing enough votes to win, said one veteran elections official who has been involved in the Senate recount.

  “Based upon the kinds of challenges I’ve been looking at in the last two weeks, I think that’s just not going to happen,” said Joe Mansky, Ramsey County elections manager.

Franken will undoubtedly take the election to into the courts, probably over rejected absentee ballots.  But the problem is that there is no indication that any absentee ballots were wrongly rejected, and Franken’s challenge will amount to wanting to change the rules to inflate his vote total.  I don’t think it will work.  Or, at least, it shouldn’t work.

Keeping Franken out of the Senate will be a silver lining in an ugly, ugly election season for Republicans.  But it shouldn’t be seen as a victory.

That a clown like Franken could get so close to being elected is an indictment of just how thoroughly Republicans have lost the faith of the American people.

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“That a clown like Franken could get close to getting elected…”
This is not necessarily an indictment of the poor Republican Party showing, it is more an indication of the intellectual poverty among a good share of new voters coming into the polls. 
The civics test circulating on the internet this past week and the results it shows is an indication of the problem.  Many people do not understand our own government at any level, be it local, county, state or federal.  We are in trouble.

Halatbis on December 1, 2008 at 08:02 am
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This is not necessarily an indictment of the poor Republican Party showing, it is more an indication of the intellectual poverty among a good share of new voters coming into the polls.

Well, I wouldn’t say those two things are mutually exclusive.


The purpose of government shouldn’t be to do good, but simply to refrain from doing evil.

Rob on December 1, 2008 at 08:11 am
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But the problem is that there is no indication that any absentee ballots were wrongly rejected, and Franken’s challenge will amount to wanting to change the rules to inflate his vote total.

Have you done enough research to even know what the standard for counting votes in Minnesota is?  It is intent of the voter.  Votes are not to be rejected based on a technicality or mistake in filling out the ballot as long as the intent can be ascertained.  With this standard there are almost assuredly votes that were wrongly rejected for both candidates.

Hawk on December 1, 2008 at 10:20 am

If you go to the Minneapolis Star Tribune website, they have an interesting voter recount challenge where you can see actual ballots that were cast.  They are having a poll where you can vote on who the voter was actually intending to vote for.  They also have the ballots in a PDF file where you can see which side challenged the ballot and for what reason.

http://senaterecount.startribune.com/

Some of the ballots they have are absoulutely amazing.  How voters screw up their ballots so badly is beyond me.  All you have to do is fill in the circle by the candidate of your choice.

Creasy on December 1, 2008 at 11:31 am
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If you go to the Minneapolis Star Tribune website, they have an interesting voter recount challenge where you can see actual ballots that were cast.

Yeah I linked it in a post the other day.

Some of the ballots they have are absoulutely amazing.  How voters screw up their ballots so badly is beyond me.  All you have to do is fill in the circle by the candidate of your choice.

I agree.  It’s almost enough to shake my confidence in this whole “consent of the governed” thing.

Almost.


The purpose of government shouldn’t be to do good, but simply to refrain from doing evil.

Rob on December 1, 2008 at 11:47 am
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As a Minnesota expatriate, I long ago saw the power shifting towards ‘progressive’ ideas, first, as a student at Bemidji State College, [this was a long time ago…before it became a University] and then when I lived in the Twin Cities.
Having lived on the Left Coast, I can only compare what is happening in Mpls./St. Paul to the radical takeover of Portland, Seattle, etc.
I am now hunkered down out here on the tundra, thinking of the words of Hunter S. Thompson…

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.

Rusty on December 1, 2008 at 03:29 pm

couldn’t happen to a better man.

FRANKEN IS A LOSER!!!!!!


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gustave776 on December 2, 2008 at 04:11 am
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