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Thursday, October 19, 2006

The Underpaid Teachers Myth

Andrew Coulson:

There’s a common perception in this country that public schools are underfunded, and that if they could only spend as much as private schools do, they’d be in clover. When it is pointed out that the average private school tuition is around half of total public school spending per pupil, defenders of the status quo counter that tuition only covers a fraction of total costs.

So wouldn’t it be interesting to know how much private schools actually spend, in total, per pupil? Well now we do, at least for the state of Arizona. . . .

Teachers make up 72 percent of on-site staff in Arizona’s independent education sector, but less than half of on-site staff in the public sector. In order to match the independent sector’s emphasis on teachers over non-teaching staff, Arizona public schools would have to hire roughly 25,000 more teachers and dismiss 21,210 non-teaching employees.

When teachers’ 9-month salaries are annualized to make them comparable to the 12-month salaries of most other fields, Arizona independent school teachers earned the equivalent of $36,456 in 2004 — about $2,000 less than reporters and correspondents. The 12-month-equivalent salary of the state’s public school teachers was around $60,000, which is more than nuclear technicians, epidemiologists, detectives, and broadcast news analysts. It’s also about 50 percent more than reporters or private school teachers earn.

I wonder what effect these numbers will have on the flood of education stories about how desperately underpaid public school teachers are… given that those teachers are earning the equivalent of 50 percent more than the journalists who cover them.

Probably none, given that the myth of the underpaid teacher is one of those sacred cows most in the mainstream media seem unwilling to slaughter.

The full study is available here.

Here are some other tid-bits of information from the study:

  1. Graduation rates among private schools are higher.
  2. College acceptance rates for graduates of private schools are higher.
  3. The facilities at private schools are in better repair.

And, most shockingly of all, the private schools pretty much out-perform public schools in every single area, both academic and administrative, all while spending several thousand dollars less per pupil than public schools do.

So how can private schools do this?  For one thing, private schools aren’t a government monopoly so they actually have to perform well in order to attract students.  For another, private schools don’t hire union teachers.

The evidence to suggest that private schools are better, because of market forces, than public schools is pervasive and overwhelming.  What we should be concluding from it is this: In order to improve education in this country we shouldn’t be throwing more and more money at the problem.  We should be introducing the market forces that cause public schools to perform so well into the public school system.  That means school vouchers and parental choice laws.

Teachers unions will, of course, oppose this.  They did in Florida where they got a parental choice program shot down by the courts despite clear evidence that the program was working to significantly improve test scores, especially among minority students.

Comments

Avatar for gregdn

There was a time when public school teachers were underpaid, but that was long ago.  The article forgot to mention the pensions teachers get, which far surpass the private sector.

gregdn on October 20, 2006 at 02:59 am

I don’t understand the political will behind transfering money to one of the highest earning groups in the state.  When you consider who pays the sales tax you’re having the poor subsidize the rich.

It gets even worse when you look at higher education.


What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.


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The Whistler on October 20, 2006 at 03:46 am

One other thought.

When the news media talks about teacher pay they never seem to give you the details of what they are actually paid.

Some interesting figures would be starting pay, median pay, median at five years and top pay.

For some reason we can’t find out how much the people that work for the public make.

That goes for other government jobs too.


What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.


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The Whistler on October 20, 2006 at 03:57 am
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Don’t forget that many teachers don’t have to pay the 12% into social security.  They actually have a real retirement program, not a mere redistribution of earnings one like the rest of us.

electnixon on October 20, 2006 at 04:01 am

I don’t get it when we’re told we have to treat public employees better than the rest of us.


What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.


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The Whistler on October 20, 2006 at 04:03 am

While I agree with the vast majority of what the study says, there two other factors that significantly impact the relatice differences in student performances between public and private schools.  First, parents who place their kids in private schools are typically more interested and involved in their children’s lives.  There is ample research to show that parental involvement is one of the major factors in student success.  The fact that a parent wants to put the child in a better school bodes well just at face value.

The second issue that affects performance comes from the fact that private schools can pick and choose which stuent they accept.  This makes direct comparison of the two systems suspect at best.  Public schools must take every kid that comes along regardless of ability.  Even if we take ability out of the equation, this is still an issue.  For instance, a private school can say that they will have no more than 10 students in any classroom.  When they reach the maximum enrollment, they will take no more kids.  Smaller class sizes mean more time for individualized instruction.  A public school can’t do that.  When a student comes to the door to enroll, he must be enrolled.  To get a smaller number of students in a classroom, you have to have more teachers and more classrooms and more money.

Music teachers will tell you how all kinds of research proves that students do better on tests when they have music education.  However, the only research that has been done only shows an effect and not a cause.  When you press them on the issue, you find that no one has actually ever determined if participation in music increases test scores or that smarter kids are attracted to music programs.

There are many, many reasons why the public school system is screwed up and teachers’ unions are a huge part of the problem.  However, it is not a fair comparison to directly compare public and private schools performances in this way.


"Although I can accept talking scarecrows, lions and great wizards in emerald cities, I find it hard to believe there is no paperwork involved when your house lands on a witch.”
- Dave James

Steve L. on October 20, 2006 at 04:07 am
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Watch it Whistle. Progessive mind control at work.

When you consider who pays the sales tax you’re having the poor subsidize the rich.

WOOF on October 20, 2006 at 04:20 am

I think you’re right in most of your post Steve.

Private schools are likely stocked by kids with concerned parents.  I’m amazed at how much teaching I have to do as a parent.  I wish I could do more. 

I don’t think there is much linkage between money spent and what’s learned. When that’s what the administration says I think we have bad administration.


What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.


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The Whistler on October 20, 2006 at 04:20 am

Well woofie; we agree.  I just didn’t choose to say it that way.


What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.


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The Whistler on October 20, 2006 at 04:21 am

Don’t forget that many teachers don’t have to pay the 12% into social security.

This is not true in every state.  For example, in Texas, it is true while in Arkansas (which has a very good teacher etirement system), they still pay into SS.


"Although I can accept talking scarecrows, lions and great wizards in emerald cities, I find it hard to believe there is no paperwork involved when your house lands on a witch.”
- Dave James

Steve L. on October 20, 2006 at 05:32 am
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The school year is only 170 days a year. Two married teachers cost taxpayers over six figures in total compensation. They are able to retire in their fifties with full COLA’d pensions.
Cry me a river!
If they “feel” they are not paid enough, they have only their labor union bosses to blame!

Kevin Flanagan on October 20, 2006 at 05:46 am
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This is not true in every state.

Yeah, that’s why I used the word many.

At least a teacher can move to another state to avoid extortion.  The rest of us are forced into the redistribution of wealthy wherever we work.  Kinda like the EIC - the guvment decides who pays in and who takes out.  I still haven’t found that part in the constitution.

electnixon on October 20, 2006 at 06:09 am
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