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Tuesday, June 20, 2006

The Roe Effect

Ted Harvey is a Christian, a Republican, a right-to-lifer, and a member of the Colorado House of Representatives. And Ted Harvey has an extraordinary, heart-warming tale to tell. The story of Ms. Gianna Jessen. On the day that the Colorado House was to pass a proclamation celebrating the 90th anniversary of Planned Parenthood, Ms. Jessen, a heroic victim of cerebral palsy sang the Star Spangled Banner.

(Warning: If you are a hard-core supporter of Roe v. Wade, you may not wish to read this article in its entirety.)

Members, I would like to introduce you to a new friend and hero of mine -- her name is Gianna Jessen. She is visiting us today from Nashville, Tennessee, where she is an accomplished recording artist.

She has cerebral palsy and was raised in foster homes before being adopted at the age of four.

She was born prematurely and weighed only 2 pounds at birth. She remained in the hospital for almost three months. A doctor once said she had a great will to live and that she fought for her life. Eventually she was able to leave the hospital and be placed in foster care.

Because of her cerebral palsy, her foster mother was told that it was doubtful that she would ever crawl or walk. She could not sit up independently. Through the prayers and dedication of her foster mother, she eventually learned to sit up, crawl, then stand. Shortly before her fourth birthday, she began to walk with leg braces and a walker.

She continued in physical therapy and after a total of four surgeries, she was able to walk without assistance.
She still falls sometimes, but she says she has learned how to fall gracefully after falling for 29 years.

Two years ago, she walked into a local health club and said she wanted a private trainer. At the time her legs could not lift 30 pounds. Today she can leg press 200 pounds.

She became so physically fit that she began running marathons to raise money and awareness for cerebral palsy. She just returned last week from England where she ran in the London Marathon. It took her more than eight-and-a-half hours to complete. They were taking down the course by the time she made it to the finish line. But she made it, nonetheless. With bloody feet and aching joints, she finished the race.

Mr. Speaker, members, if you would allow me just a few more moments I would appreciate your time.
My name is Ted Harvey, not Paul Harvey, but, please, let me tell you the rest of the story.

The cause of Gianna's cerebral palsy is not because of some biological freak of nature, but rather the choice of her mother.

You see when her biological mother was 17-years-old and 7-and-a-half months pregnant, she went to a Planned Parenthood clinic to seek a late-term abortion. The abortionist performed a saline abortion on this 17-year-old girl. This procedure requires the injection of a high concentration of saline into the mother's womb, which the fetus is then bathed in and swallows, which results in the fetus being burned to death, inside and out. Within 24 hours the results are normally an induced, still-born abortion.

As Gianna can testify, the procedure is not always 100 percent effective. Gianna is an aborted late-term fetus who was born alive. The high concentration of saline in the womb for 24 hours resulted in a lack of oxygen to her brain and is the cause of her cerebral palsy….


By all means, read the whole thing.

Comments

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Talk about atrocities… It’s time we stopped the atrocity of abortion.

robert108 on June 20, 2006 at 06:11 pm
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Doc,

You’re right, of course.  I put that line in there specifically so they would read it.

Bat One on June 20, 2006 at 06:16 pm
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It’s a shame the only people who are reading it are pro-lifers…

Could there be a reason why?

By the way, what happened to the mother, did she regret trying to kill the baby, or did she just regret that she had sex? Or did she not regret it at all?

student student on June 20, 2006 at 06:24 pm
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Hopefully, she is in prison for attempted murder.

robert108 on June 20, 2006 at 06:31 pm
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I don’t think so. I’ll be she’s out there with a husband and family now.

According to all your standards, because I took “the pill” at 17, I should be hung/shot/electrocuted/poisoned.

The sad thing is that women who are unmarried and have babies like that feel so unaccepted that they want to do things like this.

My cousin lost many friends when she got pregnant because we know all young pregnant people sleep around. I think the best thing you can do for someone to prevent an abortion is to support them when they’re down and make sure they are doing ok.

student student on June 20, 2006 at 06:34 pm
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I’d hope that the man is in prison for contributing to society in a negative way. After all, he probably convinced her to do it and ran away. You never know the other side of the story.

student student on June 20, 2006 at 06:35 pm
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and let me clarify which pill that is. It is “the morning after pill” otherwise known as the abortion pill.

student student on June 20, 2006 at 06:37 pm
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ss: This was a purposeful attempt to kill the baby with a saline injection into the womb.  Why do you start up about a pill?
No on suggested that you be “hung/shot/electrocuted/poisoned” either.  Why make that up?
I simply said she should be punished just like anyone else who attempted to murder another person. In addition, she almost ruined the life of the other person.  Nothing mysterious or political here.  This is the non-theoretical side of abortion.

robert108 on June 20, 2006 at 07:25 pm
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well, I ended up being called a killer by my own mother, so I figured all of you anti-abortion people would take the same stance she does. That’s why I wanted to ask you if you thought I was a killer.

student student on June 20, 2006 at 07:34 pm
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in my opinion, the dr should be punished alongside the patient. after all, it was the dr that made the kid that way, and the mother who made the decision.

student student on June 20, 2006 at 07:38 pm
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ss: You made it personal, not I.  TMI, if you get my drift.  You figured wrong.

robert108 on June 20, 2006 at 07:42 pm
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Student,

Your mother’s remarks would be thoughtless and imprudent even if she wasn’t your mother.  Take what she says under advisement, but understand that ultimately you account to yourself, and your God, for your decisions, not to others… her included.  The life you live is yours.  No one else’s.

Bat One on June 20, 2006 at 07:44 pm
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ss: As long as you are in a human body, you are subject to duality.  Since God is Unity, it is beyond the engineering limits of the human mind to experience God directly without transcending your existence as a human being.  It’s a worthwhile goal, however.  Don’t sweat the details.  Your mom thought she was doing something good, but she wasn’t.  Don’t forget; religion is the politics of spirituality.

robert108 on June 20, 2006 at 07:49 pm
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I figured all of you anti-abortion people would take the same stance she does.

Student,

From this you learn that generalizing is a dangerously convenient proposition.  Not everyone who opposes the Roe v. Wade decision is some sort of Evangelical neanderthal… just as not every liberal is as congenitally stupid as some who post here.

Bat One on June 20, 2006 at 07:54 pm
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Through the prayers and dedication of her foster mother, she eventually learned to sit up, crawl, then stand. (...)

She continued in physical therapy and after a total of four surgeries, she was able to walk without assistance.

Why surgery? Did God suddenly stop answering their prayers?

Dave on June 20, 2006 at 08:06 pm
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heh, my mom isn’t evangelical...she’s catholic. but a lot of catholics actually use birth control or don’t practice what they preach.

student student on June 20, 2006 at 08:07 pm
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Anyways, nice talking to you all. I’m going to sleep, it’s midnight and I have a big final tomorrow. Then it’s fun for a week!!!

student student on June 20, 2006 at 08:09 pm
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Dave: Maybe they were praying for the money to afford the surgeries after the attempted murder by the teenage mother messed the child up in the first place.

robert108 on June 20, 2006 at 08:35 pm
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The high concentration of saline in the womb for 24 hours resulted in a lack of oxygen to her brain and is the cause of her cerebral palsy….
WOW!!!!!!!!!!! A politician, and a blogger discovered the cause for cerebral palsy. Now let us arange for reverend “robert108” to pray over her and holler HEAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I command thee to HEAL!!!!!!!!!

ellinas on June 20, 2006 at 09:23 pm
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ellinas: You haven’t consumed enough alcohol yet.  You had a coherent fragment or two there.

robert108 on June 20, 2006 at 09:38 pm
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ss: This was a purposeful attempt to kill the baby with a saline injection into the womb. Why do you start up about a pill?

Why indeed ?  I’ll tell you why - because the hardcore Anti-Roe crowd do not differentiate between a 7 month saline injection abortion and the morning after pill.  In fact, the really hardcore do not differentiate between the saline injection and birth control in general. 

Sorry to disappoint, guys, but one anecdote does not equal a persuasive argument that abortion should be banned.  Nice try, though.

I doubt you’d find anyone that is in favor of this kind of procedure, especially if evaluated alone.  The problem is, the anti-Roe crowd just want to ban one form of abortion, no matter how abhorrent it may be, with the express purpose of extending that ban to less abhorrent procedures, then lesser and lesser and lesser, until all abortion is banned. 

While I can understand and sympathize with that position, I can also clearly see the intellectual dishonesty behind pointing to the anecdotal story of one person as an actual argument.

Sherard on June 21, 2006 at 03:42 am
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To those certain people, this is merely one life who shouldn’t have lived.  They don’t care one iota about babies.  They have an agenda.  It is that no one is ever responsible for their actions, except most men who need to be put in prison for failure to pay child support.  What is one million murders a year?  Answer:  One million murders that should be prosecuted.

Chief RZ on June 21, 2006 at 04:16 am
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Sherard, I’ll make it easy on you. I’m hardcore pro-life and your dead right. I think all abortion is wrong. Pill, saline or D&C.

I think that life begins at inception. Those cells don’t grow to become a puppy or a zebra, they are as such that they make humans.

I think that the arguement that it’s the woman’s body, therefore her choice, is flawed. If that is an iron clad right then legalize drugs and suicide too because both of those only effect the individuals body.

So to make it perfectly clear, I’m going to continue to vote, support and lobby until all abortion is illegal. I don’t care whether this is seen as a persuasive arguement or not because most people already have thier mind made up. I care about my legislator and the judges, because as the pro-abortion crowd taught us: We don’t have to convince America to get our way.

Rob B. on June 21, 2006 at 06:38 am
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I think when enough abortion doctors get killed then just like magic abortions on a huge scale will disappear.

WETBACK on June 21, 2006 at 01:35 pm
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"The problem is, the anti-Roe crowd just want to ban one form of abortion, no matter how abhorrent it may be, with the express purpose of extending that ban to less abhorrent procedures, then lesser and lesser and lesser, until all abortion is banned.”

Sherard, you have it exactly backward.  The hardcore abortion crowd will not allow any procedure, no matter how abhorrent, to be regulated one tiny bit, for fear of eroding their baby-killing position.  They won’t even allow parental notification for underage girls.  Their real agenda, IMO, is the destruction of the family structure, with the govt owning the children, and the mother hired as babysitter.  The father is considered unnecessary competition for loyalty to the State.  The State determines who should live, and who should die.

robert108 on June 21, 2006 at 01:39 pm
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RobB wrote:

If that is an iron clad right then legalize drugs and suicide too because both of those only effect the individuals body.

I’m glad we agree.

dave on June 21, 2006 at 02:47 pm
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You know Dave, all I ask is a little consistency.

For a side note, I actually saw a coke head snort a line off the back of a squad car and then try to argue that he wasn’t hurting anyone but himself. It didn’t work, but i was impressed with the sincerity with which he argued his point.

Rob B. on June 21, 2006 at 07:51 pm
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The lefties who hate big corporations just love those big corps who provide abortions.  Hypocrisy?

robert108 on June 21, 2006 at 08:30 pm
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What would you do if Ms. Jessen’s mother came back, apologized, and acted like a mature mother should act?

student student on June 21, 2006 at 08:42 pm
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ss: The same thing I would do if Adolf Hitler did the same thing.

robert108 on June 21, 2006 at 08:54 pm
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ss: Maybe that was a bit harsh.  According to the Bible, here’s how it goes:

Repentance
Atonement
Forgiveness

How does one atone for what that “mother” did?

robert108 on June 21, 2006 at 08:56 pm
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I wasn’t asking that. I was asking if you would see the mother as a person too.

student student on June 21, 2006 at 09:01 pm
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and yes, abortion is wrong at that stage, but I would be curious to know what the mother is doing now- if she’s going on pro-life marches or still out there aborting babies late term. If she’s met her child, etc. It would be interesting to see how these mothers turn out.

student student on June 21, 2006 at 09:02 pm
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An evil person, like I do now.  Her behavior now doesn’t change what she did in attempting to murder her daughter.  If she repents and atones, she might deserve forgiveness, that’s all.  She did what she did.  Would you trust her with your baby?

robert108 on June 21, 2006 at 09:04 pm
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"It would be interesting to see how these mothers turn out.”

Why? I think women who don’t kill, or attempt to kill, their babies are far more interesting in every way.  Why focus on evildoers?

robert108 on June 21, 2006 at 09:05 pm
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Well, personally I wouldn’t judge a person until I know them. Perhaps she chose to abort the baby because her mother wanted her to, or her boyfriend wanted her to. Often, people choose to abort because the people close to them do not support them and in fact encourage it sometimes. I would be curious to know the situation surrounding being young and having this choice.

Just because I want to know what happened to the mother does not mean I support “killing”. I certainly hope that is not what you’re trying to prove.

Certainly when someone bombs a building, you want to know why they did it, so that maybe you can prevent things like this in the future?

student student on June 21, 2006 at 09:10 pm
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Sometimes, you can only fix evil if you understand what it is.

student student on June 21, 2006 at 09:11 pm
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How does one atone for what that “mother” did?

By becoming a vegan. Her diet (assuming she’s an omnivore) has caused exponentially more suffering than her abortion did.

Dave on June 22, 2006 at 09:28 am
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I think when enough abortion doctors get killed then just like magic abortions on a huge scale will disappear.

WETBACK on June 21, 2006 at 4:34 PM
Wow Wetback did God appoint you as His judge and executioner? If He did care to share the details?

ellinas on June 22, 2006 at 11:10 am
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Well, personally I wouldn’t judge a person until I know them.

Let me one up that. I wouldn’t judge them at all. It’s not a christian’s job to judge. God judges. He sets the standard. Our job is to comply with that.

Mom, in this situation, had two jobs. First, to love her daughter. The second was to make sure she understood that abortion is wrong. She can’t decide for her, but she is well within her rights to be upset and agaisnt abortion because whether or not the girl likes it, she’s aborting her grand child. Mom also has the responsibility to forgive her daughter, if she asks for it.

It’s not an ideal situation for the mom or the daughter but bad decisions have a tendency to create that effect.

Rob B. on June 22, 2006 at 11:51 am
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I just wanted to say that I’ve read the biography of Gianna Jessen, and it talks about everything that happened to her and her three mothers (Biological/Foster/Adoptive). As it turns out, her mother Tina was told her baby was just a blob of tissue. Having never been told the truth, Tina believed all the lies and had the abortion. When she gave birth to a live baby she was both shocked and thrilled. She loved her daughter so much, and didn’t choose to give her away. Her other did that while Tina wasn’t in the house. Tina was devestated. Like somebody said, you don’t know the full stroy. So before you go and talk about how she should be in prison, perhaps you should find out the circumstances. By all means, arrest abortionists, but don’t blame the poor girls who have been told they have no options.

Laura on June 27, 2006 at 04:50 am

Dave said, By becoming a vegan. Her diet (assuming she’s an omnivore) has caused exponentially more suffering than her abortion did.

You mean botched abortion. Don’t forget that the baby lived.

It’s funny to know that you believe that I could kill you and atone for that action by becoming a vegan. You’re telling us that your life is less than that of animals. Unfortunately for you, you’re probably right.

likwidshoe on January 22, 2007 at 09:03 pm
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