The Myths Of Sweden’s Welfare State

  •  August 6, 2008

When debating things like nationalized health care and other big-government initiatives the left often holds up Sweden as an example of how the government can run everything and do it right.
The problem? The Swedish welfare state isn’t as wonderful as its been made out to be:

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  • http://magyartruth.blogspot.com/ Chief RZ

    robert108. Then it limits demand by killing people.

  • James

    All you need to make your mind up on just how bad Socialized anything is, is to experience it first hand. I have ultra-liberal in-laws that have a daughter that resides in London, England.

    To make a long story short, even these people, after experiencing two grandchildren being born and a medical emergency with one of them, do not support socialized medicine. They couldn’t believe the lack of compasion from the people they encountered and also couldn’t believe the lack of knowledge that most of the medical professionals they dealt with actually posessed.

    Even my mother and father in-law, who are also ultra-liberal, will never support this. They have good friends who reside in Canada that had to bring their ailing mother to the states for heart bypass surgery, becasue, and I quote from the form that was sent to them detailing the reason she would have to wait 6 to 12 months for her surgery, “Her heart disease was not advanced enough to warrant any other treatment than “Pharmaceutical Therapy” at this time.” Basically, “Come back when you are almost dead!”

  • ec99

    A guy from Sweden once explained to me how the tas system works there:

    They withold 25% from your paycheck. Then you pay 40% on the annual gross.

    As for Canada Health: How many Canadian doctors now practice at Altru? Last count I heard was 16. Meanwhile, in Canada you get a guy from India of South Africa.

  • robert108

    And then they call it “social and economic justice”.

  • docdave

    So much for national healthcare utopia. I especially like the comment of the parasitic attachment that the Swedish healthcare system has on the free market American system. I suspect that is true of the national healthcare in other countries as well.

  • robert108

    James: Exactly; socialism gets power from limiting supply, and then excercises that power through rationing.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    especially like the comment of the parasitic attachment that the Swedish healthcare system has on the free market American system. I suspect that is true of the national healthcare in other countries as well.

    That’s a good point. A big reason why a lot of countries with nationalized health care haven’t collapsed is because they have relief valves like America to lean on.

    Minot, where I live, isn’t so far from the Canadian border and we get a ton of Canadians down here paying for care out of their pockets because they want to get around the waiting lists in Canada.

    My grandmother also heard from a woman who moved here from Great Britain to get her cancer treated because in GB they essentially told her she was too old to be worth treating.

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