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John Kerry calling him a “fucking liar,”

When? Got a link?

Woof: If you deny that one, how about Al Gore screaming that the President “betrayed our country”, then?  Good enough for you?  You nitpick to mislead.  The Dem rhetoric is directly responsible for the talking points that Hugo and Mahmoud regurgitated at the UN.  Get a grip.

nitpick

Does that mean you have no knowledge of the inflamatory

“fucking liar,

Woof: No.  It means that nitpicking one comment doesn’t change the overwhelming weight of evidence against the Dems on this one.  Even if true, your argument is weak and meaningless.  Understand now?
You lefties treat everything as if it were a spitting contest, when it’s really about the facts; all the facts.

So it’s just a hissy fit?

the press never had a problem with “fucking liar, fucking crooks and thieves” or with adolescent musings about the president’s name and female genitalia.

???????

So it’s just a hissy fit?

No.  It’s a very hypocritical double standard by the MSM that gives thugs like Hugo and Mahmoud talking points against our President and our country.  Didn’t you read the original post?

Bull Connor was a Democrat. Let’s not forget which party fought against Civil Rights way back when, including Albert Gore’s father.

woof,

I just spent several hours on some of the lib sites, Huffington, Wonkette, and of course, Kos.

You want to talk about disingenuous? I was truly amazed at the amount of absolute bullshit on those sites. On Huffington they posted a piece that said that the GOP has approved a torture bill that gives the okey-dokey to use rape and sexual assault to interrogate people.

Nobody could show where just where the bill said that was okay, but they all believed it. Not only did they believe it, they began to call Bush a rapist pedophile. One person posted that Bush “blew up frogs” as a kid and made his brothers drop their pants so he could shoot them im the ass with a BB gun. He also flatly stated that the Abu Ghraib photos were meant for Bush’s personal use but got “leaked” before they got to him. I’m not making this up. This person was serious.

Another (who signs on as ‘gopgoingdown’ claimed that our interrigators were raping ten year old girls so that their families would “tell what they know”.

Several others chimed in that, yep, Bush is a rapist and a pervert. One even said that ALL republicans are`rapist pedophiles.

Okay, so let’s talk about delusional. These people are delusional to the point of being insane. And...they believe every word they’re spouting.

Go to the site and check it out. I warn you, though, if you have any sense of decedncy you’ll need a hot shower and a strong drink when you finish.

Election ‘08 - We Are So Screwed

Pil: In related news, did you know that all Republicans are racists? I went to some websites, and they said some pretty racist things!

Go to Huffington right now and look at what they’re saying in the post about Ken Melman. I’m amazed. these peopel are slamming gays and accusing Bush of being gay and republicans of being pedophiles.

The tolerant left my ass.

Election ‘08 - We Are So Screwed

Ever since 2003 the Pew Research polls have indicated that world opinion of the U.S. was dropping like a stone.
The reaction of a lot of Americans to this has been “we don’t care what the world thinks of us.”
Well, what you saw at the U.N. last week was just a vocal affirmation of thoses polls.  And to blame the Democrats is well, ludicrous.
We got two choices:  either we grow a thicker skin and ignore the criticism or we change our ways.

The above post is hypocritical. It reflects the desire of some to shed the image they aquired through their actions and blame others. The lunatic left is not the reason why Bush is disliked around the world. The lunatic right wing alone is responsible for that.  What was written in the Huffington post by left wing crazies, is not very different from the utterenses of the right wing nuts at this and other blogs.

gregdn:

We got two choices:  either we grow a thicker skin and ignore the criticism or we change our ways.

Simply not true.  We have many choices, and neither of the ones you tout are satisfactory.  We need to do the right thing, which involves knowing the truth behind the criticism, which is anti-US propaganda.  The jihadists are using the news media to fight their imperialistic war, which means that polling is polluted, to put it mildly.  The world isn’t run by polling, except in leftie fantasy.  Your use of polling “information” as a premise leads you to a wrong conclusion.

ellinas: You can’t be serious!  Hugo and Mahmoud directly quote the unhinged leftie talking points put out by the National Dem Party and the leftie blogs.  Get a grip!  Your “you do it too” argument is weak in the extreme.

Robert I was not refering to Mahmoud or Hugo. I got a grip.
I was merely responding to the notion that only one side has nuts. That both the left and right have extreme idiots amongst them is irefutable. Therefore this post falls in to the nutty category, because it makes false accusations. While it may be true that some nuts would agree with the post, the accusations that are made in the post are indefensible.

Who said only one side has nuts?  All I was saying is that, on the left, the lunatics are running the asylum.

See: Howard Dean, Jack Murtha, etc.

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

-- Thomas Jefferson

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ellinas: Your position seems to be irrelevant at best.  The position of the post is that these tinpot dictators are getting their talking points and disrespecting our country from the bizarre behavior of the lefties, and it’s true.  Your disaffection for the opposition isn’t relevant here, since no one is disrespecting the US using conservative talking points.  Even if I take your point that there is some equivalency between the unhinged lefties and those you characterize as “righties”, there is still no comparison, because the unhinged lefties occupy powerful positions in the Dem Party(Howard Dean) and the MSM(Jack Cafferty), whereas the only “right-wing” nuts I know of are in groups that have no public voice, nor do they hold any elective offices.  Not equivalent at all.
The post is not only not hypocritical, it’s true.

See: Howard Dean, Jack Murtha, etc.

..., Ted Kennedy, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, ...

Robert:
“ truth behind the criticism, which is anti-US propaganda.”

I know this is hard for you to believe, but not everyone who disagrees with U.S. policy is the victim of propaganda.
But again, if you think we’re on the right path then just ignore the criticism.

gregdn: My thinking is not polluted by dialectical materialism.  The anti-US propaganda started right after the end of the Cold War, when Europe no longer needed us to protect them from the Soviets.  They are jealous of our success and wish to pull us down, but can’t, because their system doesn’t work as well as ours.  So, they resort to other means; they try to subvert our society.  You may choose to ignore this reality, but it won’t serve you.
I never said anything about anyone being a victim, btw; you just made that up.  I think they are willing participants.  They want to believe they can take us down with polling and the like, since they can’t compete otherwise. The inferior team often resorts to cheating and dirty tactics.
Of course, they could simply free their people and make more efficient use of their capital, but that would be relinquishing control, and they can’t do that!

Robert:
‘dialectical materialism’ ????
Did you swallow a copy of Das Kapital?
If it’s a European Marxist conspiracy to drag our image down how do you explain Al Jazeera’s coverage?
We need to stop blaming others for what the world thinks of us and accept that it’s our own actions that are causing the reaction.

Dear paranoids, did I leave anybody out?

Pullin us down , the Europeans, the CIA, State Dept.,

liberal churches, Insane Democrats and RHINO Republicans,

Activist Judges, the Media, the DOD.

WHO YA GONNA CALL?

gregdn: Your constant framing of arguments as a choice between opposites is dialectical materialism.  That’s the definition.
I never said anything about a European Marxist conspiracy, either, so you made that up, as well.
Al Jazeera’s coverage is another matter.  A different approach to the same goal, if you haven’t figured that one out yet.
We do what we do; we have no control or influence over how someone responds to us; that is contained in their history and values.  Do you get unhinged over a cartoon?  Do you resort to violence to impose your will over others?  That is a matter of values, not appropriate reaction.  If you understand their values, it all becomes clear.  They(Europe and the ME) are “have-nots” by choice.  As I said before, they could free their people and start generating prosperity like we do, but they can’t give up their addiction to monarchial control; the upper classes in both Europe and the ME are loath to share power, and so they can’t compete with us.  Instead, they try to pull us down by other means.  Do you support freedom or slavery?  It would be ludicrous for us to try to be like them; we already have a better answer.

Or maybe when the criticism is fueled by rampant partisanship, it deserves to be ignored.

Pullin us down , the Europeans, the CIA, State Dept.,

liberal churches, Insane Democrats and RHINO Republicans,

Activist Judges, the Media, the DOD.

They’re trying, but they are not succeeding, so they become increasingly more desperate, and the volume of their lies increases.  It’s really rather amusing…

There can be no doubt that the ‘hate Bush’ campaign lead by the left and taken up by many that should know better has deeply eroded respect for our government.  It is one thing to be a critical of government policies and a totally different thing to defame our president and our government.  If the citizenry of a country are disdainful and profane about their country, how can any rational being expect respect from foreign entities?  I agree, Chavez and others are only parroting what they can hear, see and read in our media and many blogs.

dd: Right on.  I don’t know if anyone remembers the “interview” Mike Wallace did with Mahmoud, but Mahmoud might as well have had a copy of the NYT in front of him; it was as if he was reading his responses right out of that newspaper at times.

DocDave:
“There can be no doubt that the ‘hate Bush’ campaign lead by the left and taken up by many that should know better has deeply eroded respect for our government. “
Please don’t conflate ‘Bush’ with our government or our nation as a whole.

gregdn: The electorate doesn’t agree with you.  They elected this President and this administration.  I know you would like us to be ruled by polls, but we still get the vote.  So sorry.

Please don’t conflate ‘Bush’ with our government or our nation as a whole.

greg, what the f**k are you talking about?  If you think that Bush is not directly associated with our government you are completely in denial.  Of course, that is what you lefties do to justify their seditious activities.  Another example like how you ‘love’ our troops but hate war.

DocDave:
“ Of course, that is what you lefties do to justify their seditious activities”
WRONG!  Voted for Nixon, Ford, Reagan, Bush Sr, Dole… oops, guess I’d better turn in my ‘leftie’ card!

There’s nothing ‘seditious’ about criticizing our government’s policies or its leaders.  It’s a rather healthy exercize actually.  What’s scary is when you try to turn this criticism into something unpatriotic or treasonous.

gregdn:

There’s nothing ‘seditious’ about criticizing our government’s policies or its leaders.  It’s a rather healthy exercize actually.

This has been stated so many times, but here goes again:  There is nothing wrong with criticising anyone, including the govt.  Your statements often go way beyond criticism, which is why the comments about the seditious nature of the Dem/leftie/MSM tactics.  Criticism is reasoned dialogue.  Attacking and undermining for political or ideological purposes is the reality, though.
When you deny that the duly elected President and administration represent the people of America, that sounds right out of the Dem/leftie talking points.
It is also a “healthy exercise” to criticize the activities of any political group that seeks to destroy our country and our way of life.  In fact, it is vitally necessary, and that’s what is going on here.  Get used to it.

Robert:
“Criticism is reasoned dialogue.  Attacking and undermining for political or ideological purposes is the reality, though. “

And who’s to be the arbiter of what’s reasoned and what’s not?  You? Me?

Robert, we couldn’t have an election in this country if ‘attacking and undermining for political or ideological purposes’ were not allowed.