The DEA Is Apparently Now In The Business Of Television Censorship UPDATE: Bogus Rumor

Update: House producer Greg Yaitanes says that this is a rumor that isn’t even a little bit true. That’s conclusive, and it’s nice to know the DEA hasn’t crossed this line whatever other lines they’ve crossed.
Having nothing better to do, apparently the bureaucrats at the DEA have been writing whiny letters to Fox about the character arc of the eponymous lead character of House Dr. Gregory House (played by Hugh Laurie). I’ve never watched the show, but apparently Dr. House is plagued chronic, debilitating pain and takes a good deal of narcotics to deal with it. To the point of abuse, in the eyes of the DEA, and they’re unhappy that the shows writers haven’t written any consequences for the character into the story line.
And they’ve succeeded into brow-beating Fox into producing scripts more to their liking. At least according to someone who is in the know and posting as much on the internet.

We have not been given, nor will we be given, an adequate explanation for why House’s chronic pain is suddenly manageable without painkillers. Keep in mind House had a legitimate, verifiable medical condition (infarction leading to muscle death) in his leg, so it’s not like fibromyalgia or bad headaches some other painful condition that is hard if not impossible to medically verify.
The DEA has been writing letters to Fox complaining about House’s “flagrant use and abuse of narcotics without consequence” for years now, and finally the network, writers, and producers all caved in to the government’s demands… in the worst possible way. They decided to make the vicodin House had been taking for over a decade into a sudden hallucinogen, causing him to see dead people. They showed him going through the painful detox, and now he’s just fine and dandy, no reference to his pain at all. And there won’t be any further reference to his pain, other than “it’s all manageable.”

This is a bit chilling, no? There’s no smoking gun to prove this is true, but given some of the other abuses perpetrated by the federal government in the “war on drugs” I’m not doubting it.
A government agency exerting pressure on the entertainment industry to get a desired story line? This is as bad as, say, the White House pressuring a show like Saturday Night Live into refraining from skits mocking the President.
It’s just not right.
We all have our opinions about what is and is not appropriate entertainment, and we’re all free to express our opinions publicly and to the producers of the entertainment in question, but the government has no business getting involved.

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  • http://Array sayanything-342

    The DEA should be fighting REAL crimes. If they have time for this nonsense then they should have their budgets cut

  • robert108

    As a “House” fan, I can tell you that this article is untrue. I think the DEA reference is gratuitous bullshit, as House has had “repercussions” from his drug use from the first episode. Several seasons back, a cop tried to get his license pulled by constantly hassling him for his drug use, and he has always been portrayed as a highly flawed, if brilliant, character.
    I know this is an excuse for all those who want squeal about ‘the nanny state” to do some more squealing, but it’s a hoax, IMO. The DEA “link”, I mean.
    The character of House is a dark, angry, very flawed character, and not to be admired in any way but for his brilliant skills as a diagnostician.

  • sayanything-38

    House is one of the only TV shows I watch with any regularity. The character is unique, a brilliant diagnostician who also happens to be an addict. And a jerk.

    Great show, and he certainly has been shown to pay for his addictions, both in his interpersonal relationships and in the legal sense. Hopefully this is BS. If not, then the DEA should be reminded of boundaries – and a little thing called the First Amendment.

  • robert108

    “You being a pro-big-government hypocrite is no lie.”

    It is a vicious lie. You use this lie as an excuse to avoid debating the issue of expansion of drug use with me.
    Speaking of hypocrisy, Rob: you advocate increasing the use of pot in our society, by lowering the cost, and yet you don’t use it yourself. Please explain.
    Is this the typical big govt “do as I say, not as I do” BS?

  • sayanything-12

    Rob, the idea that the DEA is intimidating people is based on extremely thin evidence.

    Nobody here is saying that it’s OK if they did, we’re just pointing out that the argument being given is borderline to preposterous.

    The character HAS suffered from his addiction, starting in episode 1. That’s been one of the continuing themes of the show.

  • sayanything-12

    NLP:

    Why do people get so hung up on thinking “addiction” is the absolutely worse thing in the world? You’d rather see a person tortured by his pain?

    That’s been one of the primary tensions in the show from the start, whether the treatment is worse than the disorder.

  • sayanything-12

    Robert108 is right here.

    He has had repercussions from his drug abuse, they just were getting progressively more serious over time.

    He friggin broke his hand on purpose in two episodes (to get his attention off the withdrawal symptoms). How normal is that for a person who isn’t a user?

    We don’t know that the DEA is even interested in this show, you admit being unfamiliar with the show, and all you as evidence is an anecdotal. That’s hardly compelling.

  • robert108

    “But, unlike you, I don’t let my personal preferences translate into me
    pushing those preferences onto others.”

    Another lie from you, Rob; like you, I express my personal preferences as an individual, but unlike you, I don’t want to use the courts to impose anything on the people of this country. I have always favored voting, and you know it.

    BTW, thanks for sharing your views; until you started lying about me, it was good.

    What you hate about me is that I have factual and logical arguments against your ideological positions.

  • Brent

    So is the DEA writing letters to television networks complaining about programming or not? Have they or haven’t they done this in the past?

    And Kenny, DEA agents qua human beings can write letters to whomever they want. DEA agents qua government agents should not be.

  • robert108

    House is definitely in pain, but his drug use goes way beyond what is needed for pain management. That’s clear on the show.

  • Brent

    First of all, Kenny, it is ridiculous that the DEA says House is shown to have no consequences. They had a large part of a season dedicated to him getting in legal trouble and struggling with the pain of going on and off the drug.

    Secondly, he had “no pain” for a measly (approximately) three episodes, because of experimental surgery that worked for a short period of time, until the pain returned. Your version of the show is vastly different than the one that aired on Fox (and is on DVD).

  • robert108

    The whole DEA claim was a hoax.

  • robert108

    “Uh, Kenny and Robert108 are.”

    No, we aren’t. My position is that the DEA claim is bunk, and is based on completely false information about the show. I explained this carefully, but you insist on making it a personal matter whenever I expose your bias, and you attack. This thread is about the show, and about the truth of what it’s about, Rob; not your personal vendetta against me for disagreeing with you on licensing drug use in this country.
    You seem to have no objectivity on the subject.

  • robert108

    So, even after you have been proved wrong, and I have been proved right, you still try to smear me with a lie. It is you who want the govt to impose homo marriage on us through the courts, Rob. You are the big govt hypocrite here.
    I favor voting on these issues, you want the govt to impose your ideology on us.

  • robert108

    Not what I said, Rob. Again, you twist my words to justify your hatespew. I called you on your “do as I say, not as I do” hypocrisy on pot smoking, and you know it. Perhaps you could share your reasons for not smoking pot. Is it due to the fact that smoking pot is stupid and destructive? If so, you agree with me on that subject.

  • robert108

    Too bad your personal animus for me gets in the way of your being able to perceive the truth, Rob. I feel sorry for you.
    The inaccurate narrative of the author of the article just fits into your prejudices, that’s all.
    Not a good reason to smear those who disagree with your ideological stance on drug use.
    The facts are not on your side here, and yet your angry pride leads you to escalate your mistaken personal attack.
    Pride goeth before a fall.

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    How about what’s going on on Days of Our Lives.

    Jeez. Buncha Hens around here.

  • NLP

    Uh, no, Kenny. You can’t have been watching the show very closely. They never indicated in any way “that House has no medical need for the pills.” Nor could they, because it’s undisputed that he’s in chronic pain which needs to be treated. Why do people get so hung up on thinking “addiction” is the absolutely worse thing in the world? You’d rather see a person tortured by his pain?

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    At least Rob outed the hens on the blog that watch the night time soap
    opera.

  • robert108

    Besides, Rob, if I really am the person you keep trying to convince yourself I am, why would I be a fan of that show? If it is really pro-drug, and if the DEA is really trying to censor it, why wouldn’t I be cheering them on? Instead, I’m a fan. How does that fit into your smear campaign? I would really like to hear your rationalization of these facts.
    The truth is, “House” is very anti-drug, which isn’t the only reason I like it, but it tells the truth about the stupidity and destructiveness of drug use, which is a good thing, in my book.
    If you knew the facts, Rob, you would have dismissed the raving about the DEA as typical of “truther” mentality. Pure delusion.

  • robert108

    You fell for a hoax, and attacked me for exposing the hoax.

  • sayanything-1714

    Sounds like the Rush Limbaugh show.

  • sayanything-287

    This is, IMO, because over about 5 decades, perhaps a bit more, we have seen a growing disrespect for Free Speech in this nation. We all have allowed much of this to go on, because when done in small measures such things rarely get our emotions stirred enough to take action. But, over all this time they State has broken off many small chips from the First Amendment, without much notice, and for all intent and purpose, broken down the wall of prohibition against the Congress and the Government passing any laws or doing anything o infringe upon those precious rights. Which is a long winded way of saying that the DEA and indeed every part of our government believe that no such absolute Rights exist and so they feel free to violate them.

    After all, what can FOX do, make them angry and thereby encourage them to find other ways to intimidate them? Can they sue the DEA for infringing on those rights for what they will insist were only requests for more sensitivity?

  • robert108

    Rob: I’m really sorry for you that you have no counterargument, and choose to reply with lying smear. Nothing that was said in the article about the character of House was true, which calls into doubt the DEA claim. Since there was no favorable treatment of drug addiction in the show, there is no reason for the DEA to step in, and so it’s not credible that the article contains any truth at all.
    You have no evidence of any “govt thuggery” about this show, and my “personal taste” is to tell the truth. Too bad it’s not yours, as well.
    When I harpoon your sacred cow of drug license, you try to smear me with lies, rather than deal with the subject matter.
    You have already admitted you don’t know anything about the program, so you might defer to those of us who do.
    None of your squealing about “nanny state” or “thuggish govt” changes the fact that drug use is stupid and destructive. The TV show “House” agrees with me and the majority of Americans on that, as you would know, if you knew anything about it.

  • sayanything-12

    Rob:

    I’ve never watched house but Brent, who I trust a great deal more than you, has watched and vouches for the description of the story.

    Reread him again. I don’t think he’s vouching for the story.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    You’re changing the debate Rob. You claimed I’m in favor of censorship, yet that’s clearly bogus. So how about an apology for that shot at me, eh?

    I did? I don’t remember doing that. I’m looking through this thread and I don’t see it, but if I did I misspoke and I apologize.

    And of course the government has the right of free speech. You’re being silly now.

    The line for abuse is when the government ENFORCES something it shouldn’t. The DEA can say that drug use on tv is bad all they want. But they cannot enforce or threaten to enforce a ban on drug use on tv.

    The government is, by its very nature, intimidating. Maybe they don’t take direct action, but even so. The government shouldn’t even be pressuring them.

    And what is a letter if not pressure?

    It’s the will of the people, Kenny. Not the will of the government.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    This sounds like a show I need to start watching…

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    so its ok for the dea to intimidate the show writers…as long as they don’t send in the storm troopers.

    That’s wonderful Kenny.

    Again, we don’t know that the DEA even sent letters, but if they did that is wrong. Period. No excuses.

    Its amazing to me how many conservatives get lured into approving big government in the name of the “war on drugs”.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    Another lie from you, Rob; like you, I express my personal preferences as an individual, but unlike you, I don’t want to use the courts to impose anything on the people of this country. I have always favored voting, and you know it.

    And voting to remove people’s freedoms is somehow more valid than it being done by judges? And you certainly favor imposing your personal preferences on others. Rather than recognizing freedom to choose, you recognize freedom to choose what r108 wants.

    And I fully recognize that we have the power to vote for things like drug bans. That doesn’t mean its right any more than slavery was right when it was legal and assented to by the masses.

    What you hate about me is that I have factual and logical arguments against your ideological positions.

    I actually don’t hate you at all. I find you humorous and stupid because you’re a conflicted fool incapable of admitting when he’s wrong.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    So, even after you have been proved wrong, and I have been proved right, you still try to smear me with a lie

    You being a pro-big-government hypocrite is no lie.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    You fell for a hoax, and attacked me for exposing the hoax.

    I criticized you for being a pro-big government hypocrite. Which, of course, you are.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    We can argue about whether or not the House plot shows realistic repercussions for the main character’s drug use, but the idea that the DEA would send a letter demanding plot changes is entirely inappropriate.

    Chilling, in fact.

    Whoever wrote the letter, if the letters exist, should be reprimanded and fired.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    I actually am surprised that you haven’t called for a ban on the show because some of the characters smoke.

    Maybe you just haven’t thought of it yet.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    Rob, the idea that the DEA is intimidating people is based on extremely thin evidence.

    Fair enough, though I was certainly clear in the post that there was no smoking gun here.

    Nobody here is saying that it’s OK if they did

    Uh, Kenny and Robert108 are.

    And perhaps the argument is preposterous to those who watch the show. I was assuming that the folks who originally posted on it, as well as Brent who sent it to me, watch the show and that it made sense to them. Shame on me for not being a bit more skeptical, I guess, but now my problem is with Kenny and Robert thinking this sort of thing is ok if it happened.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    House producer Greg Yaitanes reacted to the post saying that the DEA did not write them a letter or pressure them in any way.

    So that’s conclusive. The DEA didn’t act inappropriately. I’ve updated the post.

  • sayanything-1317

    “Uh Kenny and R108 are.”

    No. I said that the DEA agents have the same right as everyone else to complain about what they don’t like. Not to use legal force to apply that.

    Moreover, both R108 and I exposed that this was bunk.

    Being ok with the DEA voicing their displeasure doesn’t mean I’m in favor of the war on drugs. Just that I like freedom of speech. Even if the speech is stupid, wrong, or insulting.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    Being ok with the DEA voicing their displeasure doesn’t mean I’m
    in favor of the war on drugs. Just that I like freedom of speech. Even if
    the speech is stupid, wrong, or insulting

    An individual DEA agent expressing displeasure on his/her own time is one
    thing.

    If the DEA had sent an official letter, that’s wrong.

    The government does not have free speech rights, Kenny. The government is
    the government. The constitution restrains the government and gives rights
    to teh people. The government shouldn’t be in the business of voicing
    opinions about businesses or television shows.

  • sayanything-3146

    Rob – Do you believe everything you read on the internet? You’ve taken a ridiculous-sounding accusation from some anonymous internet commentator, somehow decided that this anonymous person is “in the know,” and that you needed no further proof regarding the accuracy of the story before presenting this garbage to your trusting audience.

    Apparently, you don’t want to make any effort to verify the accuracy of the story, so you claim there’s “no smoking gun to prove this is true.” In fact, there are supposedly letters that could prove the accuracy of this story, but it looks like you haven’t found, linked, and as far as I know, haven’t requested any letters from the DEA.

    And did you ignore the last paragraph of your hero’s comment?:

    “They gave the DEA final script approval over all episodes of House. Talk about big brother. Then again, “big brother” is the very essence of drug prohibition.”

    The idea that the DEA has “final script approval” is absurd and should make any reasonable person doubt the rest of the post.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    So I have to smoke pot before I think it should be legal? What kind of stupidity is that?

  • sayanything-3146

    You’re going to let a single denial from House’s producer sway your opinion? You were so sure before! Come on… isn’t it more plausible that the DEA won’t let Mr. Yaitanes admit to DEA’s control over the show?

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    I don’t feel like exposing myself to the legal ramifications for purchasing
    it and using it, and in general I don’t like smoke be it tobacco, marijuana
    or camp fire. Bothers my eyes.
    But, unlike you, I don’t let my personal preferences translate into me
    pushing those preferences onto others.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    *shrugs*

    I’m not perfect, and I correct my posts when I’m wrong.

    Given the DEA’s other abuses, and the arrogance of big government in general, this wasn’t hard to believe. Perhaps I should have been a bit more skeptical and let my inherent distaste for government in general cloud my better judgment.

    I was clear that there was no smoking gun evidence for this out side of a seemingly (to me anyway) credible internet posting. I was wrong. I’ve corrected the record.

  • sayanything-453

    Kiss your left toe.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    You’re going to let a single denial from House’s producer sway your opinion? You were so sure before! Come on… isn’t it more plausible that the DEA won’t let Mr. Yaitanes admit to DEA’s control over the show?

    I was wrong, Morr, and I’ve admitted it. I’m not sure what else you want?

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    So is the DEA writing letters to television networks complaining about programming or not? Have they or haven’t they done this in the past?

    Per my update in the post, in this specific incident a Fox producer of the show is saying no. I can’t speak to other situations.

    And Kenny, DEA agents qua human beings can write letters to whomever they want. DEA agents qua government agents should not be.

    My point exactly. If it was an official letter from the DEA it’s wrong.

  • sayanything-1317

    You’re changing the debate Rob. You claimed I’m in favor of censorship, yet that’s clearly bogus. So how about an apology for that shot at me, eh?

    And of course the government has the right of free speech. You’re being silly now.

    The line for abuse is when the government ENFORCES something it shouldn’t. The DEA can say that drug use on tv is bad all they want. But they cannot enforce or threaten to enforce a ban on drug use on tv.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    No, Kenny, I’m sorry but it is highly inappropriate for a government agency to intimidate a media outlet like this.

  • sayanything-1317

    Brent, the DEA can bitch and piss and moan like anyone else.

    The Keratine treatment that you refer to had nothing to do with pain (as he still took Vicodin with it), but was related to him getting shot and losing function in his legs. Indeed, later in that same season, he gets investigated by a cop and is forced by the hospital to give up the Vicodin.

    Several times they’ve alluded to the fact that House is fully functional without his pills, and he’s even switched before. And it is common among addicts to have phantom pains long after the actual ones have ceased. Indeed, they say that his addiction doesn’t even take care of the pain he does supposedly have.

    Sorry, Brent. I’m not a House addict, and I miss episodes on occasion, but House is a normal drug addict, who excuses his drug addiction because he’s in pain. It’s not a stretch either in the story, or realistically, for his pain to be a symptom of his addiction, not real.

  • sayanything-29

    I remember when everyone in every movie smoked cigarettes. Yawn. this is nothing new.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    I’ve never watched house but Brent, who I trust a great deal more than you, has watched and vouches for the description of the story.

    And in any case that is irrelevant in the larger picture of the dea taking any interest in this at all.

    It is simply none of their business, and if you weren’t such an ardent proponent of big government when it suits you you’d know better.

    Now give me another “lying smear” declaration so I can chuckle at how predictable you are.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    No, you can’t tell us its definitively untrue any more than I can say its definitively true.

    But once again I’m not surprised to see you siding with big, thuggish government when it suits your personal biases.

  • sayanything-1317

    Except they explained two seasons ago that House has no medical need for the pills, and he takes them even after they’re no longer helpful because he’s an addict. Far from being given “no reason”, an entire season revolved around it. And in several episodes, he not only took no meds, but suffered no pain.

    The above quote is innaccurate.

    And considering he’s in rehab because of his addiction spiraling out of control, the idea that they dropped the story for the DEA is clearly bogus.

  • sayanything-277

    The DEA has overstep its bounds (does it have any?) many times. The agency was created to ban recreational drugs (opium, heroin, marijuana, cocaine, never mind that some were also used for medicinal purposes like pain) and then expanded its operations against pain drugs (the alleged overuse) and other areas. Scarcely a year goes by that some substance isn’t added to their list.

    Of course all of this is a result of the infamous ‘war on drugs’ and like other federal agencies like the EPA, the DEA has grown well beyond its original purpose.

  • sayanything-1317

    Dude Rob, Robert is right here. House almost went to jail for his behavior, was effectively fired, has faced constant scrutiny for his use, and, in addition to some nasty side affects, was finally pushed into rehab.

    This idea that he’s living a carefree fun life while on drugs is utter horsecrap. It has been a major focus of the series since episode one, and has CONSTANTLY been a sticking point with Cutty.

    We know for a fact that the story hasn’t been changed for the DEA. Why do we know this? Because it is on the same story arc that it’s been from the beginning. As far back as the first season, they’ve been saying House has no pain, that he’s simply an addict, and that it impacts his work. And it’s been building from there.

    As far as…

    “No, Kenny, I’m sorry but it is highly inappropriate for a government agency to intimidate a media outlet like this.”

    The difference between ok and not is the use of force. While I think the DEA should never have been formed, they are as well within their rights as anyone to say “We disapprove of this,” Where they cross the line is when they use force to achieve that. Even as the story above says…they have not done that. And given that Hugh Laurie has often said that House’s drug use would come to a head, this seems like where they were going all along.

    Sorry, Rob. This is bunk, and you’re backing a side that doesn’t exist.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    Yeah, that’s a really good point.

    The nanny stater busy bodies can’t even let fictional characters be.

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