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Friday, October 26, 2007

The Creeping Police State

Melanie Scarborough, writing about the DC Police Department’s decision to shut down several blocks of Washington DC for an anti-globalism protest:

Most Americans seem to have forgotten that, in a free society, police have the authority only to enforce laws; they have no authority to make them.

Before a citizen can be charged with a crime, an officer has to cite a violation of law. Yet in announcing the road closures accompanying the World Bank protests, the police department said, “Only pedestrians with business in the area and proper identification will be permitted access.”

Which statute requires law-abiding citizens to produce ID to walk down a sidewalk? What law says that citizens must explain to police where they are going and why?

A call to the police departments general counsel asking that question was not returned. Unfortunately, there likely is some badly written statute that the Metropolitan police can contort into affording them sweeping powers — similar to the Secret Service’s ability to operate virtually unchecked by claiming it is protecting someone or something.

Such laws are more dangerous than any group of protesters.

It does often seem, from a citizen’s perspective, as though the power and arrogance of many law enforcement officers has increased.  I actually had my own run-in with DC police officer on Capitol Hill earlier this month.  A couple of friends and I, who were in town for Americans for Prosperity’s Defending the American Dream Summit, had decided to take a trip to the Capitol to spend the morning walking around and enjoying the sites before we had to fly out.  We’d taken the Metro from our hotel to Capitol Hill and then had been traversing the area around the Capitol, the Supreme Court and the Senate/House office buildings for a couple of hours.  When we were done sight-seeing, we were trying to find our way back to a Metro station to leave but weren’t sure where the nearest one was.

One of my companions spied a police officer walking away from us and tried to get his attention.  He wasn’t hearing us, so my companion issued a short whistle to get him to look our way.  When the officer heard us he turned around and was angry.  He told us not to whistle at him (perhaps understandable) and further told that if we were going to address him we would be using “Sir” and “No sir.”

Now I, personally, don’t mind calling a cop “sir.” I typically do that out of habit anyway, as a sign of respect.  But for an officer to brashly demand that I do so (with an implied “or else” to boot) it strikes me as a terribly arrogant abuse of power.

We were tourists.  We wanted directions.  And while a whistle to get this officer’s attention (he wasn’t doing anything but standing/walking at the time) may not have been advisable, it certainly didn’t warrant the response we got.  But it did make us all a little nervous.  How easy would it be for this officer to write us a citation, or even haul us in, on some obscure and vaguely written law against loitering or public disruption?

This may seem like a minor issue, but it’s really not.  The more we ignore this sort of creeping police state in America the more danger we’re in.

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Maybe a bit off the subject; as you may have noticed while in D.C. there are steel barriers that lie flat in the street that can be raised hydraulically--these are all around the capitol on all streets.  Also, there are security police and cars on nearly every corner(sometimes two or three) just parked there with officers in them or standing by them.  Interesting isn’t it? Half the people in this country do not see any threat to our safety--including some liberal congresspersons--however, they have plenty of security for themselves.

halatbis on October 26, 2007 at 09:22 am

Obviously a DC police officer is completely untrained to deal with tourists in the nation’s capitol.

Contrast that with Les Coffelt the Secret Service Police Officer who likely saved Harry Truman’s life after being mortally wounded himself.

It was not uncommon for Coffelt to visit with tourists and even pose for pictures with them.


What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.


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The Whistler on October 26, 2007 at 09:22 am
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I did notice those things, Hal, and that’s an interesting point.


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Rob on October 26, 2007 at 09:31 am

When the officer heard us he turned around and was angry.  He told us not to whistle at him (perhaps understandable) and further told that if we were going to address him we would be using “Sir” and “No sir.”

While I understand the whistling part - the police aren’t anyone’s dogs and to be whistled in summons is insulting and pisses me off, too - he has NO right to demand to be called “sir” by anyone. That’s out of line. WAY out of line.


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Pilgrim on October 26, 2007 at 09:46 am

While I understand the whistling part

Well if you call him and he doesn’t hear you what are you supposed to do?

I’m sure he would take running at him to be a threat.  I think it’s only wise to alert the police you’re coming up on them isn’t it?

Recently I had to whistle to get my wife’s attention, it was either that or shout out in a crowded store?  I realize it’s not polite to do all of the time but there are circumstances that it’s not inappropriate. 

I think the proper thing would be to get his attention somehow (and whistling might be the best).  Give him a wave, keep your hands visible, jogged up there and politely ask and thank him.

I think if someone’s offended by that then they have the problem.


What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.


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The Whistler on October 26, 2007 at 09:57 am

I’m not sure that I want to hamstring the police from being able to prevent violent protesters from disrupting the lives of average citizens, as in the case cited here.  I believe it’s the duty of the police to serve those who pay them, not the violent protesters, most of whom are from out of town.


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the police aren’t anyone’s dogs and to be whistled in summons is insulting and pisses me off, too

It was an unthinking thing.  We were trying to get his attention, he couldn’t hear, so we whistled.

I could see where it would be annoying to be whistled at, but the reaction we got certainly wasn’t warranted.


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Rob on October 26, 2007 at 11:46 am

I have had similar situations with the police. A few months back, for whatever reason, a couple cops were standing outside a bar in Fargo. I, along with a few friends, was standing around waiting for a cab. We were laughing, about nothing to do with the cops, and one came over and basically challenged us to a fight. It was ridiculous and I was close to reporting the incident.

to contrast that, I was in Amsterdam last year and the police would walk up to you and ask if you needed help with anything. All we did was pull out a map. I am not shitting you, it was unreal. I felt totally safe. I hung around the red light district until 4 am or so and didn’t have any issues. no wonder the police don’t carry guns there, most of the time they don’t need to.

Graeme on October 26, 2007 at 12:57 pm

I hung around the red light district until 4 am or so and didn’t have any issues.

At least not right away.


What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.


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The Whistler on October 26, 2007 at 01:08 pm

hung around the red light district

Ohhh, and… no doubt, for educational purposes only?
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Anna on October 26, 2007 at 01:17 pm

Was it a DC Metro Officer, DC City Police Officer, or a Capital Police Officer. Trust me, it makes a difference. I have never had a bad scene with City or Capitol cops. Have had multiple ones with Metro cops. And the White Shirts that run access security in most publicly accessible Federal Buildings are a mixed bag. Just depends on how crappy their day or week has been.

The area you were in is a high noise environment, and his reaction uncalled for, to say the least. Then again, you have to consider how crappy his day or week had been up to that point. From all I have learned of you through this blog I really can not see you disrespecting a cop intentionally.

We have had similar conversations on this subject, and yes, I think law enforcement organizations in America have changed. One indication is the militarization of police departments. Another is the asinine excuses for laws that officers are expected to enforce. And the growing attitude that citizens are property to be managed and controlled is a development that needs quashed. That is the danger sign of an encroaching police state mentality.


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2Hotel9 on October 26, 2007 at 02:16 pm

And the growing attitude that citizens are property to be managed and controlled is a development that needs quashed. That is the danger sign of an encroaching police state mentality.

Amen…

I got pulled over some years ago in Missouri by a highway patroll. He jumped out in full camo and combat boots, had an M16 where the riot shotgun used to go, and a dog in the back. He was in the canine unit according to his patch.

I said to him “expecting trouble”? smile He gave me a ticket which I had fixed for pennies on the dollar and no points.

What a screwy system!

golfmann on October 26, 2007 at 02:22 pm
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