OK, moron; the non-slave States. Your semantic nit-pick doesn’t change the truth. The North wanted them not counted, and the South wanted them counted as full people. The compromise was 3/5ths of a person for census purposes only.

robert108:

Code Pink baby-killers are now claiming to be “pro-life” because they are against war(except for the war against America, that is).

Excellent. They are complicit in killing about one million babies annually. The few who are killed while in the families of terrorists are indeed tragic, but their parents are at fault, just like the parent(s) are at fault for murdering their children as they are born.

These pink people have chosen the right color to correspond with their communist ideology.

Proof

She says she wants her message to reverberate. I’m sure in does! In the hollow canyons of her head! Barack knows these people by name. Accepts their money and panders to their leftist, antiwar notions. Does Barack share their view that Centrist equals war monger? Or is he just exploiting them for their votes and cash?

Hollow canyons of their head – I love that one!

B. Hussein Obama is one of them in his own right…he’s just smoother and politically smart enough to try to fool his captive audience into thinking he loves America and is a Christian.

He’s anti-American to the core and so is his wife. Their brand of Christianity is “Black Liberation Theology!” and their platform is Socialism with a smilie face and charismatic rhetoric.

These anti-American trolls may be the loudest and may draw a lot of attention from the liberal press…but they are the minority of this great Nation. And not all Democrats have been deceived!

There is a silent majority who welds the power in elections and many even on the Democratic side don’t trust BHO…and behind the sacred privacy of the voting booth, where their Democratic friends can’t see, they’ll be placing their vote for McCain/Palin. I know several Democrats personally who have told me privately they are crossing the isle this November because they so distrust Obama.

Polls are skewered by the liberals to try and manipulate the masses…Political pundits spin on the nightly news, but they cannot control the private citizens in that voting booth!

I predict a land-slide victory for McCain/Palin this November!

Spoken like someone who doesn’t understand that it was the anti-slavery forces that insisted on that, so that slave owning states would not be over represented in the new government.

A common misconception; the “free” States didn’t want the slaves to be counted at all; in other words, they wanted them ignored as people. The slave states wanted them counted as full citizens, and the compromise was to count them as 3/5ths of a person, for census purposes only.

Code Pink is apparently ignorant of American History.

Oswaldo: You miss the point. It’s not a question of whether the candidates love their country. It’s a question of whether party comes before love of country.

When Barack Obama stubbornly refuses to admit that the surge worked, he is putting partisan politics ahead of his love of country.

It’s a character thing…

This is only a little strange…

pparets, regarding what you say:

Oswaldo: You miss the point. It’s not a question of whether the candidates love their country. It’s a question of whether party comes before love of country.

pp, with all due respect, I did not miss the point. It is not at all a question of whether party comes before country. We are talking specifically about what JazzyKat said. His point was clear. He says flatly that Obama is lying when he says he loves America or is a Christian:

B. Hussein Obama is one of them in his own right…he’s just smoother and politically smart enough to try to fool his captive audience into thinking he loves America and is a Christian

Such statements are indefensible.

As regards the surge, you say:

When Barack Obama stubbornly refuses to admit that the surge worked, he is putting partisan politics ahead of his love of country

Here is what Obama said:

“I think that the surge has succeeded in ways that nobody anticipated …I’ve already said it has succeeded beyond our wildest dreams.”

In any case, whatever he or McCain thinks about the surge or about any other issue should not call into question their love of our country. Both McCain and Obama had the decency to show mutual respect during their addresses. Those were truly American gestures and should inspire us all.

robert108, thanks for pardoning my ignorance.

No, maybe you are ignorant of American history. The only ‘free’ state was Vermont, who abolished slavery when they became their own country and penned their constitution.

Pffft! More “Geocentrism”???

The Dred Scott decision didn’t apply to Vermont? More nonsense.

B. Hussein Obama is one of them in his own right…he’s just smoother and politically smart enough to try to fool his captive audience into thinking he loves America and is a Christian.

It’s impossible to have a decent debate, if we don’t keep things on a more intelligent and loftier level.

That statement about Obama is just as preposterous and indecent as saying:

McCain is one of them in his own right…he’s just smoother and politically smart enough to try to fool his captive audience into thinking he loves America and is a Christian.

What’s the point of having this debate if it is undermined by the premise that either of the candidates does not love America.