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Saturday, June 16, 2007


The Absurdity Of The Modern American Wedding

I’m not one to care much about how other people spend their money, but news like this never ceases to amaze me:

“Can’t buy me love,” Paul McCartney once sang.

That doesn’t mean you can’t spend a pretty penny celebrating the emotion, as thousands of North Dakotans and Minnesotans heading down the aisle this year will prove.

The cost of saying “I do” in the Red River Valley for 2007 is estimated at $23,800, according to http://www.thewedding

report.com, a Tucson, Ariz.-based research organization that tracks wedding spending across the U.S.

That price tag is lower than the projected 2007 U.S. average of $27,690, said the site’s founder, Shane McMurray.

Local wedding vendors say they believe the average cost of a Fargo-Moorhead wedding likely hovers in the range of $10,000 to $15,000. And, they note, every couple is different in the amount they choose to spend.

The $23,000 figure sounds high from what I know of local weddings, so the $10,000 - $15,000 figure sounds more reasonable.  But even so, what an incredible amount of money to waste on one day.

That’s right.  I said “waste.”

Am I the only one who’s tired of weddings? Am I the only one who sees these over-blown ceremonies for what they really are? I’m not talking about the ideal of marriage, but rather the industry that has cropped up around that concept.

Think about it for a minute. A young man and a young woman fall in love. They’ve been dating for a long time and its becoming clear to both of them that they should take the next step. So what is that expected next step? An engagement ring, of course. And, of course, the fiancé-to-be won’t be expecting a run-of-the-mill ring. She’ll be expecting a ring of the “how else can six months salary last forever” variety. Why is she expecting that kind of a ring? Marketing, of course.

All their lives today’s women have been told to expect a fairytale wedding. They want huge rings and huge ceremonies. Forget that most young couples already have enough financial burdens what with most of them facing enormous student loans and credit pit-falls at every turn.

What I don’t understand is why some of these young couples don’t take some of the money they’re spending on wedding extravaganzas and invest it in their futures. Why not have a more simple wedding? The money saved would more than likely mean a brighter future for the marriage itself.

If I were a woman, I certainly wouldn’t mind a plain ring if it meant that I could live in a larger house a few years down the road. Or if I knew it meant that my children could go to a better college. To be honest, I’m not sure I’d want to marry a woman who was so wrapped up in image that she couldn’t put aside the idea of a huge wedding in favor of financial security in the future.

They say that the majority of divorces can be blamed on differences over finances.  Given that even just $10,000, invested property in a home or otherwise, can be the difference between financial security and living paycheck to paycheck I wonder how many marriages could be saved if the bridge and groom went with a simple ceremony instead of an extravagant one.

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I can agree with most of what you are saying,  Especially how weddings seem to be an industry.  However, saving 10K might be a novel idea and it might work for a few couples, but the American way of spending more than you have is almost inevitable for most.

People never seem to be satisfied with their standard of living most are always grasping for that next little step. 

Not saying everyone would do this, but I could see many:

and extra 10K in my house, well, that’s a pretty good down payment, so instead of the $150K house, lets put it down on the $225K house in a little better neighborhood.  That brings on a whole set of problems itself, oh, the car we drive just doesn’t fit the new neighborhood, we need need new furniture,  our neighbors kids, go to private school…

Not to detract from your original post, but most Americans are financially irresponsible.

Ace25 on June 16, 2007 at 03:42 pm
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Rob, I agree one hundred percent with you. It has been my casual observation that the length of the marriage seems to be in inverse proportion to the amount of money spent.

Good Ol' Boy on June 16, 2007 at 04:35 pm
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Happily Ever After: Without the Prince?

New Release, Princess Bubble, Strikes Chord with America’s 51% SINGLE WOMEN WHO, FOR THE FIRST TIME IN U.S. HISTORY, OUTNUMBER MARRIED WOMEN

ATLANTA, April 26, 2007—This spring, as single women scramble to catch bridal bouquets, toss their mortar boards, and contemplate “what’s next,” two successful single gals are throwing out an unstereotypical option, a redefined fairy-tale ending, “happily ever after”—even without the prince.

With wisdom gleaned from their careers as single, globe-trotting flight attendants, first-time authors Susan Johnston and Kimberly Webb have crafted a modern-day book that celebrates singleness. A contemporary fairy tale for all ages, Princess Bubble was written to reduce the overwhelming sense of failure, self-doubt, and despair that some single women face.

“Knowing how low self-esteem and depression plague many single females, we wanted to spread the message that ‘happily ever after’ can occur even before Prince Charming arrives. . . or even if he never does,” said Webb.

“We’re definitely not anti-Prince,” said Johnston (whose college nickname was “Bubbles”). “We’re not anti-family or anti-marriage, if anything we’re anti-‘Damsel in Distress.’ Our message—the single life can also be a fairy tale. The End!”

Princess Bubble stars a princess who is confused by the traditional fairy tale messages that say she must find her “prince” before she can live “happily ever after.” Princess Bubble dons her “thinking crown” to research traditional fairy tales, interviews married girlfriends, and even takes counsel from her mother, who advises her to sign up at FindYourPrince.com. With a little help from her fairy godmother (this is still a fairy tale after all), Ms. Bubble discovers that “living happily ever after” is not about finding a prince. “True happiness,” the book reveals, “is found by loving God, being kind to others, and being comfortable with who you are already!”

“We’ve had countless women all over the nation tell us they wish there had been a book like this when they were young,” said Johnston. “This is a story women can truly believe in and feel comfortable sharing with their children.”

ABOUT PRINCESS BUBBLE and BUBBLE GUM PRESS: Self-published in 2006, Princess Bubble is now available through most online retailers and in over 70 retail outlets. The Princess Bubble message, cleverly articulated by former Delta flight attendants Susan Johnston and Kimberly Webb, seeks to find an alternate ending to “happily ever after” and change the notion that life begins and ends with finding your Prince Charming. Looking to bolster the poor self-esteem of female youth and the stigma that many single adult women carry, Johnston and Webb believe “this is a book for women of all ages, a story they can believe in and share with their children.” In upcoming adventures, Princess Bubble will travel to distant lands where the knowledge of every new culture will enrich her flourishing life.

Susan Johnston on June 16, 2007 at 04:53 pm

Great post Rob. I agree. It seems that our society continues to misplace priorities more and more as time goes on.

Diogenes - The Cynic of Sinope on June 16, 2007 at 07:10 pm

Personally, I’m planning on a cheap wedding, and blowing all the savings on an extended honeymoon.


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Daniel on June 16, 2007 at 11:29 pm
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yep - I agree.  a total waste.  My hubby and I had 3 close friends at our wedding.  Used the marriage commissioner’s office - they have a room that is nicely decorated. We have matching gold wedding bands.  He would have bought me a diamond engagement ring - I didn’t want one. 

It was the ceremony shared with friends that was most important.  I have been to weddings where obscene amounts of money have been spent.  Some of those marraiges didn’t last.  I have been to weddings that have been done a shoestring - everyone helped out and the bride was cooking - they’ve been more significant

pmb on June 17, 2007 at 08:02 am
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Totally agree.  What’s more important, the wedding or the marriage?  Guess you could say we eloped quietly, married at age 19 and 22 by a Justice of the Peace without anyone knowing, no dress, no flowers, a $250 engagement ring of my choice that still took us six months to pay off at the minimum wage we were working back then.  A quick weekend get-away for the honeymoon.  Seventeen years later, we’re still married.

Neven wanted a Fairytale on June 17, 2007 at 09:59 am
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it is INSANE for anyone to spend thousands on any wedding. how can anyone justify the worth! spend it on the marriage- plan for the marriage it is so sad that these couples plan and spend more for the wedding then they ever do for their marriage. My friends are still paying for their wedding and they’ve been married for 8 years now! Her momma ever took a 2nd job to pay for it. Crazy indeed. Been married once won’t do it again!
I remember it being lovely and costing about $3500 which was alot!

vivienne on June 17, 2007 at 01:46 pm

We spent $3000 on the Wedding and Honeymoon:  Church Wedding, party in the backyard.  Nothing fancy but nothing missed.

I really think that was the best way to go.


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The Whistler on June 17, 2007 at 02:57 pm
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I agree that weddings are insanely expensive these days, but I’d like to say that everyone commenting here seems to be older and got married when wedding’s and everything in general didn’t cost as much.  Clearly you can’t get what you did in the 70’s or whatnot, today.  Hello people!

Adam on June 17, 2007 at 04:03 pm

Hello people!

Hello Adam! I didn’t get married in the 70’s. 

But really it’s about how you do it, getting married in the family church and having the party in the backyard, taking a reasonably affordable honeymoon.

You could do it for that price today without leaving anything out.


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The Whistler on June 17, 2007 at 04:11 pm

A big expensive wedding beats
a funeral of the same nature,and you don’t have to bring a gift.

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WOOF on June 17, 2007 at 04:42 pm
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Our company caters to the upper end of the scale for weddings and other events. When a Bride comes to us with a budget that I know is going to be a strain,  I tell them how I handled my daughters wedding. We sat down and planned the wedding of her dreams. we put a price tag on the wedding. I then offered her and her husband 75% of the expected cost of the wedding plus a great honeymoon. They took the money,  saved for two more years and bought a house which they sold last week for a nifty $250,000 profit after five years.

Unfortunatley 95% of our brides to be refuse to even think of accepting that option.  A Pity.

C. taylor on June 17, 2007 at 05:46 pm
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I’m a wedding & special events coordinator in Las Vegas.  I don’t care to argue the relative importance of a large “Fairytale Wedding”, to each his own and all that.  I would just like to correct a clearly cynical and ignorant blogger on his facts.

Large and expensive weddings are not the resukt of image conscious brides or the “industry that has cropped up” around weddings.

Long engagements, expensive gifts and large weddings evokved as a safety net for the security of the bride and her future children.  If the suitor had the means to prtovide a large and expensive wedding and reception he had proven his worth.  What’s more is that he hadn’t “wasted” his money.  The guests whom attended the affair were expected to nearly double the costs of the wedding with the total of their gifts.  Not such a waste, I say.

The lack of parental and family involvement(CASH), in the modern wedding is the travesty, not the fact that young lovers only want what has been their birthright for THOUSANDS of years.

Weddn' Planna on June 17, 2007 at 07:48 pm
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Those weddings are the product of a society very different from today’s. Such traditions are costly and wasteful. As already stated, the money is better spent on more practical things.

Hu Mann on June 17, 2007 at 08:00 pm
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YIkes!!...what a bunch of cheap skates!!
my wedding was great, my kids love to watch it, I have the diamond ring no yucky gold band, if I am spending my life with him I want a diamond after all it is a girls best friend..my wedding cost about $18,000, and that was 20 years ago and my father paid for it, I am still married and feel lucky, this year I told him for our 20th I would like a two carot diamond for 20 years, so girls have that wedding but make sure you do not go into debt.

Patricia on June 17, 2007 at 09:51 pm
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I agree that weddings have become far from too expensive!!  I am a caterer here in the Dallas/Ft. Worth area.

I have had brides that have come in and have such high expectations that, there’s no WAY, should they get their wishes, there is a chance that they are going to get the wedding that is in competition with either other weddings that they have attended or been a part of, that would come close to any sort of budget that they set forth.

Our current society does not allow for these “brides to be” to have any sort individuality.  They want what they’ve seen.

They are dictated to from the media. 

They don’t care whether or not their parents can AFFORD their dream wedding.  All they care about is how they can compete with their neighbors.

Our favorite clients are those that tell us what their budget is before they start planning.  We work within their budget to surmise what it is that they really want and what we can provide.

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Robert on June 17, 2007 at 10:06 pm

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YIkes!!...what a bunch of cheap skates!!
my wedding was great, my kids love to watch it, I have the diamond ring no yucky gold band, if I am spending my life with him I want a diamond after all it is a girls best friend..my wedding cost about $18,000, and that was 20 years ago and my father paid for it, I am still married and feel lucky, this year I told him for our 20th I would like a two carot diamond for 20 years, so girls have that wedding but make sure you do not go into debt.
Patricia on June 17, 2007 at 10:51 pm

I guess everyone owes you everything.  What does that 2 caret diamond amount to taking away from your kids?


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The Whistler on June 17, 2007 at 10:13 pm
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Please confirm reception.

Bob

Mel Armstrong on June 17, 2007 at 10:16 pm

LOL.. Yes, Patricia ... the culturally induced illusion of the perfect wedding! The insanity of a dream come true at a nightmarish cost. It really is sad that this special, intimate hallmark of life, ones marriage vows,  has become nothing short of a debut of personal conceit and greed.


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Anna on June 17, 2007 at 10:47 pm
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The Whistler-

so we’re allowed to give our kids everything under the sun, but not allowed to treat ourselves sometimes?  a 20 year anniversary gift is supposed to be a t-shirt or wallet?

and- a backyard wedding isn’t for everyone.. especially if you live in the city and don’t have a backyard.. actually, even if we did have a backyard, I wouldn’t want to celebrate my big day with my heels sinking into the ground.. it’s basically a glorified picnic.  so calm down about some of us wanting more than that. 

if you can afford to spend $15000 on a wedding, and don’t have to break into your house savings, I say do what makes you happy.

Stephanie on June 18, 2007 at 04:17 am

My wife and I had a small affair, with the intention of renewing our vows a few years down the line in a much more extravagant affair.
Push comes to shove, she left, so it seems to have been the best choice.
However, if I marry again (and I probably will), I will wait a little longer and I quite like the idea of having a larger event, because it’s also about introducing your significant other to your wider family and circle of friends. Not sure if I’ll spend the UK average of £12,500 (circa $25,000) though.


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ManofFireandLight on June 18, 2007 at 04:59 am

dude,
why not spend some money? girls like that crap. they begin dreaming of it as girls and it ain’t a hotdog and a 16oz PBR can in the backyard.


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Sparkie Arbuckle on June 18, 2007 at 05:03 am

that said, i would never marry a bitch who needs that kind of superficial exterior reinforcement of her emotions. either you love em or you don’t. spending money doesn’t prove shit to anyone.


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Sparkie Arbuckle on June 18, 2007 at 05:05 am

so we’re allowed to give our kids everything under the sun, but not allowed to treat ourselves sometimes?

Who said that.  But my priority would be getting the kids through college without debt and on with their lives.


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The Whistler on June 18, 2007 at 05:15 am

I’m not really attracted to shallow vacuous women.
I’m not suggesting that I wouldn’t want to have a fabulously grand wedding for the next woman I marry, I just think it doesn’t have to cost that much.
The most expensive thing should be the bar.

Alternatively, Daddy could pay. That’s the traditional way, right?


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ManofFireandLight on June 18, 2007 at 05:39 am

my wedding cost about $18,000, and that was 20 years ago and my father paid for it

That last statement really sms it up doesn’t it?  Her father paid for her wedding.  It didn’t cost her anything to have abog, elaborate wedding.  What was Daddy supposed to do, tell his darling little girl that she didn’t deserve everything she wanted?  Of course not.  He did exactly what every father would do.  He mortgaged the farm (so to speak) to pay for his little girl’s ream day and make her happy.

Our own 20-year old daughter has already put us on notice that we need to start putting money aside for her wedding because that day is coming.  Her tone is one of obligation on our part.  That’s the biggest problem with weddings today.  People feel obligated to do more than they can really afford.


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Steve L. on June 18, 2007 at 07:16 am

I have noticed that many couples get married for the wedding and not the marriage itself.  Anyone can get married. BUT not everyone can stay married…

Zsa Zsa on June 18, 2007 at 07:29 am

People feel obligated to do more than they can really afford.

And it’s more about keeping up with the Jones than with having a nice wedding. 

I guess with my daughter I plan on telling her this is what she gets for a wedding present.  It’s up to her to pay for the wedding out of that.


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The Whistler on June 18, 2007 at 07:34 am

What is odd is that in wedding invitations lately there are all kinds of places advertised as to wher to get the couple a gift. Very distasteful and rude!

Zsa Zsa on June 18, 2007 at 07:42 am

I say avoid regrets and find the right planner that wants to assist you in saving money not spending it.  Your money should be spent on who you are and a good planner can do just that. A wedding is to be an event that everyone is happy, full of memories and everyone is having a LOT of FUN.
Recognize how shallow the importance of the dollar scene conveys. Couples easily become hooked on the insanity that spending money makes the best wedding.
My sisters and I have a family business that caters to unique weddings. The couple can have any wedding for half the cost simply by planning it that way. Our clients are people that have the money for these extravagant weddings but understand the value of money (most are Microsoft and Boeing couples).  Not only are the wedding themselves perfect but the planning becomes a fun filled treat for the couple. No wedding is as gracious and glamorous of an event than one that is planned right.


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Anna on June 18, 2007 at 08:12 am
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Agreed that we tend to go overboard, but Biblically speaking, a wedding is supposed to be a celebration.  Yes, one can probably skip a 2 carat ring (my wife is happy with 1/3 carat) and the destination wedding in Bermuda, but I’d caution against Kool-Aid and a cake from Walmart—again, it’s supposed to be a celebration.

And again, it’s certain that you don’t need the $5000 dress, foie gras and caviar on the reception buffet, and so on.  Just a step above SPAM helps, though.

Robert Perry on June 18, 2007 at 08:34 am

Don’t you be dissing Spam.


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The Whistler on June 18, 2007 at 09:44 am

Anice SPAM wedding reception sounds very interesting…

Zsa Zsa on June 18, 2007 at 10:24 am

LOL.. I happen to love spam too but only in its proper place (which I hope we all agree isn’t at a wedding).
Do not let any wedding planner tell you that those beautiful dream weddings can’t be done on less money. If they do it’s because that is how they make their money. So with that said,  is how out wedding planning is different from others.
Anyway, our family business is far from kool-aid and hot dogs (but I would do if requested) Ours is to give the couple the wedding of their dreams with the reception/celebration that everyone is happy with. Our advertising comes from our work, therefore it has to be the best. We are currently booked for the next 5 years and we have received all our clients from their attendance at one of our previous weddings. Just to mention a few of our incentives that differ from all others:
*The groom ends up working with us as much as the bride; This isn’t required but because of our set up the groom wants to. (this makes him a very profitable and positive advertising source). Our service also includes luxury bachelorette/bachelor celebrations like no other.
*There are three planners and that allows for the bride, mom and in laws to help and no one is felt left out.
*All weddings have those “special” people that tend to ruin the fun of the event; We have attendants that are assigned to these specific people. Examples:*great grandma or grandpa (sweet or not) have a personal attendant for the entire time. *Young children are also assigned an attendant for the entire event (with special events planned for their age group) *Have someone that drinks too much or that special person that complains about everything? .. they’re assigned an attendant also. *Even step mom and dad have attendants that make their time pleasant and fun. Services like these allow the wedding party the freedom to enjoy themselves and not worry about ... worrisome matters.
*The largest and most popular incentive we offer our clients is; taking the thousands of dollars we save them and entering it in a profitable return investment. They not only save money they make money while our business continues to prosper. You see, the more money we save the wedding couple the more we profit.


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Anna on June 18, 2007 at 11:50 am

I happen to love spam too but only in its proper place (which I hope we all agree isn’t at a wedding).

Are you nuts, cut some Spam and Cheddar into squares.  Fry up the spam.  Serve next to eachother along with some of those toothpicks with the fuzzy plastic on one end.

Our service also includes luxury bachelorette/bachelor celebrations like no other.

Hmmm.


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Proof on June 18, 2007 at 12:21 pm
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If a big fuss is being made over a $25,000 wedding, We need to take a poll of New York weddings. I have had 2 friends and 5 relatives get married in the past 5 years and Not one of those weddings came to less than $40,000. You do the math… Limosines, Catering hall (for 100-300+ people,) Professional Photographer and Videographer, Flowers, Band, Favors, Wedding dress, Hair/makeup… Of course, each category varies in price depending on quality. Lincoln limo vs. Lexus limo. Lenox favor vs. a chachka. etc etc. Let’s face it, the fact that we spurlge on weddings has nothing to do with American irresponsibilty or whatever that term used by a blogger was… The point is this, What do we do in this life? We celebrate, we live, we enjoy. Americans love to party, we celebrate for many different occasions….anniversaries, graduations, births, communions, bar mitvahs etc etc. Any excuse we can get, we throw a party. Hosting a party for a large number of people is not cheap…it’s that simple. These people will bring gifts/envelopes of cash…Why in the world would I give my wedding guest a $5 dollar favor when they are putting $200+ in my wedding envelope? It is only right to give out a nice favor in return. And of course I want everyone to enjoy themselves by listening to a wonderful band. And of course I want beautiful pictures to remember this one day because it is suppose to be one of the best days of our lives. The day I proclaim my love to my husband in front of the world. It is a significant day and requires a significant party. And not for nothing but, in New York….$10,000 is nothing for a down payment….you need a minumum of $200,000 dollars to put down if you want to buy a house….

lisa on June 18, 2007 at 12:28 pm
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$10,000… that is a mere pittance when you are from the bigger cities.  I live in NY and let me tell you, the debt that these newlyweds incur because of one day… flabbergasts me.  I have been to numerous weddings that cost over $60,000… the parents of a few put a second mortgage on their houses.  One family spent $75,000 on their daughters wedding, and the newlyweds were headed for divorce less than 6 months later.  My hubby always asks me… can I post date the check? 

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cathymv on June 18, 2007 at 12:37 pm

LOL, Lisa .. for $200.000 You could have a glamorous wedding with photo shoot with just with your family and close friends PLUS, gather all those friends, that would had been coming to your waste of money wedding,(which might I add they don’t care how you get married, you said yourself it’s the party) and fly everyone to some exotic resort and party for a week.. and have money left over. Lisa you’re an impractical one to say the least, but then this may explain why you’re not married.. hehe!


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Anna on June 18, 2007 at 12:44 pm

I hear you cathymv .. and just because it’s more expensive in larger cities doesn’t mean it’s right wink
No one judges people by how they get married Lisa, fact if you did your wedding to look like your friends but at a more reasonable cost than $60,000 people would admire your intellect… which should tell you what people think of brides that waste money to make the ceremony something it’s not supposed to be .. it’s almost as if the brides are trying to make up for something they lack, oh wait that takes us back to intellect again huh?


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Anna on June 18, 2007 at 12:55 pm
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LOL Anna. Perhaps I am not married because I choose to finish school before I head down that path. However, that’s off topic.
Money spent on something enjoyed is never wasted.

I have to agree with the blogger who feels backyard weddings are not her cup of tea. When I think of backyard parties, I think of the fourth of July or perhaps a birthday party, Not a CLASSY wedding.  I never said I would spend $60,000 on a wedding. I am just simply stating the wedding situation here in New York. And when I say NY I mean the Metropolitan area not UPSTATE.
There is nothing wrong with spending the money if you have it. We all have a budget and you work within that budget….simple. And there is also nothing wrong with daddy paying for it. It is tradition. However nowadays, going 50/50 with the in-laws is the trend.
When you have a child, you prepare for the expenses of having a child. We pre pay for our funerals nowadaya as well….that is also a very expensive. We save for our children’s college fund. We save for retirement. BEING PREPARED is the key. My parents have been saving for wedding since I was a little girl. They knew one day their daughter would get married. They put money into a mutual fund. Isn’t that smart? Instead of complaining about the cost of weddings, maybe we should just learn to prepare for the expenses in this life.

lisa on June 18, 2007 at 01:05 pm
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Anna, you are correct. No one does judge a person by how they get married. I couldn’t agree with you more. However, Intellect has nothing to do with expensive taste. If I prefer roses over mums….well, I’d like roses for my wedding. That does not indicate a person’s level of intellect.

lisa on June 18, 2007 at 01:12 pm

I have a friend whose daughter got married. They ended up spending 100.000 dollars on her wedding. Mind you they didn’t have that kind of money to spend. They borrowed every cent possible against their home, plus more. The idea of marriage is not about the actual marriage. It seems to be all about the wedding ceremony. That is so superficial and cheapens the meaning of what marriage is all about. When I go to a wedding anymore it kind of makes me sick to see the bride enter in her cheap looking white dress with the ruffles and bows. AND it really bothers me that the couple registers for gifts all over the place and make the guests feel like they MUST get them a gift!
Personally, I am a giver. BUT when it is expected of me I am not as eager…

Zsa Zsa on June 18, 2007 at 01:24 pm
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I feel sad for those of you who have had not so positive wedding experiences. Every wedding I have been to, the wedding was fabulous, the couple- completely in love, and everyone was just simply enjoying themselves. All those married couples are still married and for most of them, it has been 6+ years. God Bless. Today, it’s usually 6 months, right? Thank God my friends and relatives are content in their relationships.

I do not agree with people spending beyond their means…That is simply foolish. You spend what you can.
Zsa Zsa, I agree, Those who can’t afford these over-the-top weddings and go into debt for still having one…does take away from the significance of Marriage. They are only hurting their future married life.

However, I disagree on your Bridal Registry opinion. I think it’s a great Idea….I never know what to get people! Those registries are designed to make your life easier. Don’t take it too personal.

No two people are identical. We all have different tastes, What you think is a nice gift, could probably be a horrible gift to the person next to you. That is what a bridal registry is for. To avoid those problems…Why waste your money on a gift that won’t be liked? Perhaps, I am too much of a pleaser….

lisa on June 18, 2007 at 01:35 pm

I don’t really even mind a bridal registery. BUT it is the multitudes of registerys that they bombard the guest with inside the invitation. It is cheap and rude!

Zsa Zsa on June 18, 2007 at 01:40 pm

All those married couples are still married and for most of them, it has been 6+ years.

I don’t think it was the money they spent on their wedding.


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The Whistler on June 18, 2007 at 01:59 pm

All those married couples are still married and for most of them, it has been 6+ years.

I agree The Whistler… plus I have to add the fact that staying together 6+ years is nothing. When you say still together I feel it should mean at least 20+ years. Lisa, Some here did have your magical dream wedding and I’d never do it again. Since my wedding I have perfected to magical dream wedding to be the same but cost half the price. This plan not only adds more to the event but the fact that less money is spent is not evident to anyone but the couple.
Couples are way too willing to just go out and waste money when it’s not necessary.


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Anna on June 18, 2007 at 02:17 pm
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The other day I met this wonderful women and I honestly would say I’d sell my last belonging to give her the wedding she desires. To be quite honest with you, I’d cut my nuts off, change my name to Sally and have sex with farm animals. All hail!

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The other day I met this wonderful women and I honestly would say I’d sell my last belonging to give her the wedding she desires. To be quite honest with you, I’d cut my nuts off, change my name to Sally and have sex with farm animals. All hail!

Thus proving the point that you’d have to be insane to spend obscene amounts of money on your wedding!


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death to all except lisa,

Was that a new age marriage proposal?
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Anna on June 18, 2007 at 02:40 pm
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Oh Lord! let’s analyze every single word… I have no doubt in my mind that I will be attending their 50th anniversary…

And, yes, The Whistler, it isn’t the money that they spent on their wedding that is keeping them married… It’s love and commitment.

My point was, the fact that were able to spend more than average does not indicate that they spend fooshily…We do not know other people’s finances and can not assume whether or not they are spending beyond their means.  Why do people buy Mercedes vs. Hondas…? Why do we prefer filet mignon over hot dogs? It tastes better. If you can afford the luxuries in life… ENJOY! That’s all Im saying.

Having a grand wedding does not indicate that their marriage won’t last and it surely does not indicate a bride lacking intellect.

Anna you say you know what it takes to pull off an exquisite wedding celebration in less money? If that’s the case you should be a very busy wedding planner. I’d be interested in knowing how this can be done.

lisa on June 18, 2007 at 02:44 pm

Ok…I am scared!

Zsa Zsa on June 18, 2007 at 02:53 pm

...and it surely does not indicate a bride lacking intellect.

nor narcissism.


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The Whistler on June 18, 2007 at 08:28 pm
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lol. Now, what’s wrong with a little narcissism? haha, only kidding…

lisa on June 18, 2007 at 11:31 pm
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Good thing you didn’t get into the average cost of weddings in Hawaii. That’s a whole different ball game. Being as it is the number one destination wedding place in the world, it’s worth mentioning that it is also a state that has one of the highest cost of living in the country. (it’s expensive) Ohh and chances are you gotta fly all your guests in… $$$$$$

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