Teenager Jailed For Months Over A Facebook Joke

Was the joke in poor taste? Absolutely. Should he have been jailed for months over it? Don’t our cops have better things to do with their time?

Jack Carter says his son Justin and a friend got into an argument with someone on Facebook about the game and the teenager wrote a comment he now regrets.

“Someone had said something to the effect of ‘Oh you’re insane, you’re crazy, you’re messed up in the head,’ to which he replied ‘Oh yeah, I’m real messed up in the head, I’m going to go shoot up a school full of kids and eat their still, beating hearts,’ and the next two lines were lol and jk.,” said Carter.

“LOL” stands for “laughing out loud,” and “jk” means “just kidding,” but police didn’t think it was funny. Neither did a woman from Canada who saw the posting.

Justin’s dad says the woman did a Google search and found his son’s old address was near an elementary school and she called police.

Justin Carter was arrested the next month and has been jailed since March 27. He’s charged with making a terroristic threat and is facing eight years in prison, according to his dad.

The kid celebrated his 19th birthday in jail, where he sits charged with making a terrorist. He’s facing, unbelievably, eight years in jail if convicted.

According to the cops, Carter’s post was a crime because of their overreaction to the Newtown shooting:

Authorities noted that recent school shootings like the one in Newtown, Connecticut have caused them to evaluate all potential threats seriously. Newtown was still fresh in their minds at the time of Carter’s arrest.

“In light of recent situations, statements such as the one Justin made are taken seriously,” said an Austin police detective in a statement.

“Justin was the kind of kid who didn’t read the newspaper,” the Daily Caller quotes the father Jack Carter as saying. “He didn’t watch television. He wasn’t aware of current events. These kids, they don’t realize what they’re doing. They don’t understand the implications. They don’t understand.”

Or maybe the kid thought he lived in a free country where you can make sarcastic and even tactless comments online without having to worry about jail time. Guess he’s been disabused of that notion.

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Rob Port is the editor of SayAnythingBlog.com. In 2011 he was a finalist for the Watch Dog of the Year from the Sam Adams Alliance and winner of the Americans For Prosperity Award for Online Excellence. In 2013 the Washington Post named SAB one of the nation's top state-based political blogs, and named Rob one of the state's best political reporters. He writes a weekly column for several North Dakota newspapers, and also serves as a policy fellow for the North Dakota Policy Council.

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  • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

    This is what happens when you have a society of guns and gun violence. The police must be on high alert since there is little they can do when the gun crazed public wont allow for laws to be put in place to protect themselves.

    • KJUU

      *facepalm*

    • ‘Tom Crawford

      Are you daft?
      There are laws.
      They pass more laws.
      …and more laws…
      ….and more laws….
      You might want to research a little bit on just how many laws the US has in place.

      The police normally come AFTER violence has happened.

      What this amounts to seems to be thought police.
      This kid made a stupid joke. He even ended it lol jk
      Then the thought police arrested him on make believe terrorist threats.

      We are now more than ever, not a free society, especially when a tasteless joke can get you thrown in jail.

      • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

        Guns are no joke, but you sure are…

        But in 1997, Norris, then 22, became the one who needed to be rescued by first responders.

        He’d been at home with his mom when she noticed one of the family’s shotguns leaning precariously against the glass door of the gun cabinet. When Norris stepped over to the cabinet to stand the gun back up, the unthinkable happened. The loaded shotgun went off, blasting upward and through his jaw and nose. He fell to the floor, moaning “Oh mom.”

        Rushed to the hospital where surgeons worked frantically to save his life, he was put in a medically induced coma for two weeks. Though his life was saved, Norris was left severely disfigured: his jaws, teeth, lips, tongue and nose were nearly erased and he was in constant pain.

        Even after his wounds healed, Norris wouldn’t venture out of the house without covering his face with a black surgical mask, and then often only at night. He began to avoid contact with everyone, even his closest friends. Depressed and disheartened, sometimes Norris wondered if suicide was his only choice.

        Costly and painful follow-up surgeries to improve Norris’s situation failed miserably.

        http://www.nbcnews.com/health/face-crowd-year-after-most-extensive-face-transplant-history-6C10484450?ocid=msnhp&pos=1

        • mickey_moussaoui

          More hysteria from our room queen. Seriously, more children are killed by household cleaning chemicals. Can’t you take this screech fest somewhere else? Americans don’t want you sticking your nose in our rights.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            You’re not even an American, what do you know about what Americans want?

            Australians thought they knew what they wanted until their conservative law makers banned certain types of guns, now they have no gun massacres, they are fine with the new laws now.

          • petrakeena

            Proof there were two mass murders due to fires in Australia in recent years. One was in 2009 (10 deaths) and the other was in 2011 (10 deaths and as many as 21 people have died due to their injuries).

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            I said “gun massacres”, nutter. Please don’t try to distract from my point by changing the subject.

          • petrakeena

            I wasn’t trying to distract by changing the subject. Frankly I feel that the subject matter wasn’t changed at all by my comment. The point I was trying to make is obvious…mass murders happen with or without guns.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            It doesn’t happen as easily, or as often when guns aren’t as readily available…..Japan, Australia and many other countries prove this.

            Like it or not, the guns you want propagated cause more death in our country…..I for one am tired of it. Time for a change.

          • LenYol

            When will YOU be surrendering your semi automatic weapons?

          • Packin Heat

            You are clueless. The deadliest incidents in US history haven’t had any guns involved. ANFO fertilizer bombs are easy to make (Ammonium Nitrate and Fuel Oil) and relatively cheap ex:Oklahoma city bombing. Bombs were illegal then and now but guess what- criminals by definition don’t obey the law. Same thing will happen with guns and then they will know that they have more power because everyone will be disarmed. 9/11 killed a lot of folks without a single gunshot. Its ignorant to think that other countries were fixed and now sing kumbayah simply because they ditched guns, and that violence will end in the US without them. It will only get worse if you swat at the hornets nets. When the bloodthirsty want to kill then they will have to use deadlier methods instead. Anyone who isn’t smart or logical enough to figure that out DEFINITELY should not be deciding what to do with gun laws, or any laws for that matter. Should we ban cars too because of accident deaths and drunk drivers? I think not.

        • ‘Tom Crawford

          You have no clue who I am or what my background is – so the fool or joke is you. Daft as ever it seems.

          A gun is a tool – like a knife, a car, a hammer, a chain saw, ect.

          Accidents happen – even careless ones where those who owned the gun were not responsible. People who own cars are also not responsible as well, and it too can be a tool to kill whole families.

          Care and responsibility is needed when using any tool – used irresponsibly and any tool can be deadly.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            I read your posts often enough to make my statement confidently.

            A gun is a tool, a tool that’s too often used for mass murder of innocent people.

            When was the last time a person accidentally cut off their face or killed their friend, brother, sister with a knife by simply holding it? Tool……indeed.

          • ‘Tom Crawford

            Buddy I doubt you read anything I post – so your assumptions are just that.

            I post few and far between only when I think there should be a bit of sanity in a response.

            There are plenty of things that can be used as mass murder, and many are legal – again, take for instance a car, a semi truck, ect – just like your commented example there are other examples of these devices / tools which has caused mass deaths. They are still legal to drive and own as long as done responsibly.

            And as i pointed out – a gun is a responsibility – if you are not responsible then accidents can happen such as you commented about. The person was irresponsible to have a loaded and primed gun where anyone could pick it up. It was unsecure and safety was off. It was irresponsibility that was the main cause of the accident that happened. The gun cannot do anything by itself. For a gun to be actuated it must be loaded with ammunition, a bullet must be in the chamber ready to fire, and the safety must be OFF….these conditions must be met before a gun can fire….the last being the trigger must be pulled – or it must be jarred in such a way that the firing mechanism jars enough to actuate the gun.

            Knives are not the only tool….but yes, a knife is an inanimate object same as a gun. It takes someone else to use it to make it kill or maim.

            A car and truck are tools as well – and I know of several instances where these vehicles have plowed through crowds killing many.

            A pressure cooker as well is a inanimate object, a tool used for cooking, but used irresponsibly it was used to cause death and maim many. How? It wasn’t the pressure cooker – it was the human that caused it.

            Guns do not just go off for no reason. Again, they have to be loaded and ready to go, safety off and if it “just went off” then the gun was defective. If the safety is on, and it is not loaded – guns dont just go off. Most likely the person picked it up incorrectly and hit the trigger by accident. The article you listed doesn’t go into specifics – nor does it state why the gun was being store irresponsibly being loaded, safety off and not correctly positioned.

            Sorry but your arguments do not hold up – the gun was used and stored irresponsibly and for that this boy was injured.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Again I ask you…..please post the statistics that show how many people accidentally cut off their face with a knife by accident, or killed or maimed one of their friends?

            Your argument is hyperbole, at best. Guns are the tool that causes the most death, over any other…….deal with it.

          • ‘Tom Crawford

            Again, you are sticking with just a knife – there are many a tool, such as cars, that do just as much if not more damage.

            Actually YOUR argument is hyperbole – your stuck on thinking an inanimate object is doing the killing or maiming – it cannot do anything without physical manipulation to cause it to fire. Irresponsibility such in the case that you quoted was the cause of this accident. It was not the guns fault that the person who owned it did not use and store it properly. In being an irresponsible owner, it lead to that tragic accident.

          • ‘Tom Crawford

            Your right, guns are the leading cause of deaths….in SUICIDES.

            Suicides by gun accounted for about six of every 10 firearm deaths in 2010 and just over half of all suicides, according to data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

            Since the CDC began publishing data in 1981, gun suicides have outnumbered gun homicides. But as gun homicides have declined sharply in recent years, suicides have become a greater share of all firearm deaths: the 61% share in 2010 was the highest on record. That year there were 19,392 suicides by firearm compared to 11,078 homicides by gun (35% of all firearm deaths). The rest were accidents, police shootings and unknown causes.

            http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2013/05/24/suicides-account-for-most-gun-deaths/

            Looking deeper into the data, though, shows a second astonishing fact that is actually surprising: how high the gun-suicide rate actually is. The preamble to the CDC’s National Vital Statistics Reports Vol. 60, No. 3 cites firearms as one of the “four major mechanisms of injury in 2009” (the year of the survey), along with poisoning, motor vehicles, and falling. In that year, 59.8% of all “firearm injury deaths” were suicides, and 36.7% were homicides.

            Although gun accidents are tragic, and we tend to hear about them (e.g., an 8-year-old boy was killed in Massachusetts in 2008 when a 9mm Micro Uzi machine gun he was playing with at a gun fair kicked back and shot him in the head), accidental gun death is relatively rare, accounting for only 1.8% all gun deaths. “Undetermined” and “legal intervention/war” categories were even less likely, at 0.7% and 1%, respectively.

            So, suicide tops homicide by nearly two to one in the gun-death business.

            http://www.forbes.com/sites/rogerkay/2013/01/22/who-knew-the-leading-cause-of-gun-death-is-suicide/

        • Drain52

          Yep, if you mishandle a firearm you could get hurt or killed. No surprise there. Also interesting is the phrase “the loaded shotgun went off…” Of its own volition? Was it tired of holding a loaded shell and chose just that moment to relieve itself?

          What does this have to do with a lunatic society that wets itself over nothing?

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Wets itself? I’m not sure I know what you are referring to, but I believe the Newtown shooting to be worthy of concern.

        • John

          The only joke here is the mentality that one short anecdote proves some sort of point, and gives the right to tell other people what to do, how to think, and how to live their lives. If you don’t like guns, then don’t buy guns. All I got from that story was that somebody was storing their firearm improperly. Accidents happen all the time with or without guns. And your comment, “When was the last time a person accidentally cut off their face or killed their friend, brother, sister with a knife by simply holding it?” is sheer stupidity. Which one is it, deliberate violence, or accidental tragedy? There’s a reason parents tell their kids not to run with scissors in their hand… because accidents HAVE happened. I bet you’re one of those parents who keeps your kids on a leash and makes them wear a helmet to play in the yard. And wear water-wings to run through the sprinkler. Should we ban knives and scissors, too? How about fire… we’d all be a lot better off without that technology too, right? You can’t take away people’s rights because they make you uncomfortable (assuming you know what the 2nd amendment is). Better not go outside ever again, because someone’s improperly stored gun might go off! Oh, and, “please post the statistics that show how many people accidentally cut off their face with a knife by accident, or killed or maimed one of their friends?” Why? You’re apparently entitled to your own facts and statistics.

          My personal favorite, though: “You’re not even an American, what do you know about what Americans want?Australians thought they knew what they wanted until their conservative law makers banned certain types of guns, now they have no gun massacres, they are fine with the new laws now.” Practice what you preach? Seriously… just take that statement and switch the words ‘American’ and ‘Australian’ around. Hypocrite. People kill people, with and without guns. That’s what needs to change. Wiping your butt with the Bill of Rights isn’t going to fix it. Taking away our rights is only going to make people angry, and anger leads to violence. You’ll be in a lot more danger than you are now if you make people angry by taking away their rights.

    • Gern Blanston

      You just can’t be on the some side as Port on any discussion? Your post is as inane as the kids comments were tactless.
      If you don’t like the guns, suggest amending the Constitution. Meanwhile, folks shouldn’t be jailed for stupid comments. The right reaction in light of school shootings would have been for the Police to investigate and vet this individual as a non-threat and move on to more serious concerns.

      • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

        If you don’t like the fact that police have to respond to these types of comments (not that I agree with the decision to jail him) then you should support tighter gun restriction and gun laws.

        There is no safe society when deranged children have access to their parents guns. When your desire to have freedom to own semi-automatic weapons affects my child’s safety, there is no more freedom.

        • mickey_moussaoui

          Well at least you are kind of close in your analysis. It’s not a gun issue, it’s a mental health issue. Speaking of which…are you seeing someone ( shrink ) for your excessive feminine mood swings?

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Australians thought they wanted their semi-autos, until they were banned…and now there’s no gun massacres in Australia.

            Just because you keep your balls in your mouth doesn’t mean others don’t have them.

        • LenYol

          ” When your desire to have freedom to own semi-automatic weapons affects my child’s safety”

          You have semi automatic weapons, and you have no children, tiny impotent troll

      • LenYol

        Tiny smallwillie, the documented liar and tax cheat loves guns. He has semi automatic weapons and night vision scopes.He just doesn’t want anyone who doesn’t agree with his warped thinking to have any.

        Like other potential killers, his fuse has been lit and burning for quite a while. It’s just a matter of time until he loses it and starts killing people. Most likely it will be whites, Jews and anyone that doesn’t agree with his anti American opinions and views. He’s a typical dem/lib/communist turd.

        • ellinas1

          Hello Proof!

    • http://sayanythingblog.com Rob

      Wow.

      • mikemc1970

        Ya I know. Sometimes you just have to step back, take a deep breath and just let the shock of it settle on you. I weep for the future.

    • mickey_moussaoui

      Handiwipe,
      Lately your posts have become much more hysterical. Did you get a chopadickoffofme and are the estrogen shots more than you can handle?

      • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

        Yawn….

        You have become more radical as the months go by.

      • LenYol

        Very interesting. Check below.
        And SOME here in America (uhhh, lefties only??) would have you believe that we are “cowboy land”, shootin’ ‘em up everywhere on our streets. Of course, there ARE cities in America, as discussed in a recent email that went around, that DO indeed have 3rd world murder rates, unlike most of
        America. And that’s because of who lives there, who runs the place, and gun control. Uncontestable facts.I’m
        surprised the WHO even let these stats out, so much do they prove that gun control doesn’t work. Our Founders were wise beyond the ages. Too bad so many today don’t get that, weren’t properly taught that, or have ulterior motives to ignore it!!!!

        STATISTICS

        From the World Health Organization

        The latest Murder Statistics for
        the world:

        Murders per 100,000 citizens.

        Honduras
        91.6

        El Salvador
        69.2

        Cote d’lvoire
        56.9

        Jamaica
        52.2

        Venezuela
        45.1

        Belize
        41.4

        US Virgin Islands
        39.2

        Guatemala
        38.5

        Saint Kits and Nevis
        38.2

        Zambia
        38.0

        Uganda
        36.3

        Malawi
        36.0

        Lesotho
        35.2

        Trinidad and Tobago
        35.2

        Colombia
        33.4

        South Africa 31.8

        Congo
        30.8

        Central African Republic
        29.3

        Bahamas
        27.4

        Puerto Rico
        26.2

        Saint Lucia
        25.2

        Dominican Republic
        25.0

        Tanzania
        24.5

        Sudan
        24.2

        Saint Vincent and the
        Grenadines 22.9

        Ethiopia
        22.5

        Guinea
        22.5

        Dominica
        22.1

        Burundi
        21.7

        Democratic Republic of the
        Congo 21.7

        Panama
        21.6

        Brazil
        21.0

        Equatorial Guinea
        20.7

        Guinea-Bissau
        20.2

        Kenya
        20.1

        Kyrgyzstan
        20.1

        Cameroon
        19.7

        Montserrat
        19.7

        Greenland
        19.2

        Angola
        19.0

        Guyana
        18.6

        Burkina Faso
        18.0

        Eritrea
        17.8

        Namibia
        17.2

        Rwanda
        17.1

        Mexico
        16.9

        Chad
        15.8

        Ghana
        15.7

        Ecuador
        15.2

        North Korea
        15.2

        Benin
        15.1

        Sierra Leone
        14.9

        Mauritania
        14.7

        Botswana
        14.5

        Zimbabwe
        14.3

        Gabon
        13.8

        Nicaragua
        13.6

        French Guiana
        13.3

        Papua New Guinea
        13.0

        Swaziland
        12.9

        Bermuda
        12.3

        Comoros
        12.2

        Nigeria
        12.2

        Cape Verde
        11.6

        Grenada
        11.5

        Paraguay
        11.5

        Barbados
        11.3

        Togo
        10.9

        Gambia
        10.8

        Peru
        10.8

        Myanmar
        10.2

        Russia
        10.2

        Liberia
        10.1

        Costa Rica
        10.0

        Nauru
        9.8

        Bolivia
        8.9

        Mozambique
        8.8

        Kazakhstan
        8.8

        Senegal
        8.7

        Turks and Caicos Islands
        8.7

        Mongolia
        8.7

        British Virgin Islands
        8.6

        Cayman Islands
        8.4

        Seychelles
        8.3

        Madagascar
        8.1

        Indonesia
        8.1

        Mali
        8.0

        Pakistan
        7.8

        Moldova
        7.5

        Kiribati
        7.3

        Guadeloupe
        7.0

        Haiti
        6.9

        Timor-Leste
        6.9

        Anguilla
        6.8

        Antigua and Barbuda
        6.8

        Lithuania
        6.6

        Uruguay
        5.9

        Philippines
        5.4

        Ukraine
        5.2

        Estonia
        5.2

        Cuba
        5.0

        Belarus
        4.9

        Thailand
        4.8

        Suriname
        .6

        Laos
        4.6

        Georgia
        4.3

        Martinique
        4.2

        And
        ……………….

        The United States 4.2
        !!!!!!!!!!!!

        ALL
        the countries (109) above America have 100% gun bans.

        It might be of interest to note that SWITZERLAND (not shown on this list) has NO MURDER OCCURRENCE!

        However, SWITZERLAND’S
        law requires that EVERYONE

        1. Own a Gun

        2. Maintain Marksman
        qualifications….. regularly

        3. “Carry”……..a
        Weapon.
        http://badgerlakeobserver.blogspot.com/2013/01/world-health-organization-murder.html

    • 7point62

      And Barry, like Nelson Mandela,
      is a third world communist social justice front man.

      http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1255245/posts

      Mandela with SACP boss, Joe Slovo

      “Nelson Mandela is a symbol, an icon, one of the world’s most famous statesmen, recognised and revered by all. He dines with royalty, associates with the world’s great leaders and his opinion is sought and valued on all weighty matters. He has achieved an almost divine status in the world, equal to that of the Pope or the late Princess Diana.”

      Many of his apologists optimistically claim that Mandela may well have had “communist leanings” in his past, but that he has since put all that behind him and become a moderate in his political beliefs. They are perhaps unaware of his fulsome praise of a communist dictatorship as late as 1991 when he and Winnie went to what they called their “second home” – Cuba – to celebrate the communist revolution with Fidel Castro. In his speech Mandela said:

      “Long live the Cuban Revolution. Long live comrade Fidel Castro… Cuban internationalists have done so much for African independence, freedom, and justice. We admire the sacrifices of the Cuban people in maintaining their independence and sovereignty in the face of a vicious imperialist campaign designed to destroy the advances of the Cuban revolution. We too want to control our destiny… There can be no surrender. It is a case of freedom or death. The Cuban revolution has been a source of inspiration to all freedom-loving people.”

      Mandela’s adulation of Castro and Cuba almost outshines that of his own admirers. In May of 1990 Mandela, visiting America, went on record, referring to Cuba:

      There’s one thing where that country stands out head and shoulders above the rest. That is in its love for human rights and liberty.

      A week later in Libya, he lauded Qaddafi’s:

      Committment to the fight for peace and human rights in the world.Mandela with SACP boss, Joe Slovo

      “Nelson Mandela is a symbol, an icon, one of the world’s most famous statesmen, recognised and revered by all. He dines with royalty, associates with the world’s great leaders and his opinion is sought and valued on all weighty matters. He has achieved an almost divine status in the world, equal to that of the Pope or the late Princess Diana.”

      Most people on the left of the political spectrum would agree wholeheartedly with the above quote. But they run into an unexpected problem when someone asks “why is he considered such a great statesman?”

      The problem is that Mandela, apart from having a likeable personality, has achieved next to nothing in his relatively short political career which saw South Africa rapidly decline to the status of the world’s most violent and crime-ridden country, and, to add to the confusion, his greatest friends are communists and dictators like Fidel Castro, Moammar Qaddafi, Yasser Arafat and Saddam Hussein. His ex-wife Winnie Mandela, whom he quickly jettisoned when it became clear she was a considerable embarassment to his political career, is a self-confessed advocate of terrorism and violence and has even committed murder.

      In his public statements and speeches Mandela is always critical of the democratic countries of the west, but has nothing but praise for the remaining communist dictatorships of the world. He condemns mistakes and controversial policies of the west, but refuses to publicly condemn the genocides and brutal repression of current or former communist countries; he is supposedly a “champion of freedom and democracy”, the “hero of oppressed people everywhere” but considers dictatorships like Cuba and Libya shining beacons of freedom and justice…

      Perhaps this is what makes Mandela such a revered statesman – chameleon-like he can advocate democracy and freedom as the highest ideals one day and hold up Cuba or Libya as shining examples for the world to follow the next day. And his admirers do not even notice the contradiction, or worse, they agree with him…

      Many of his apologists optimistically claim that Mandela may well have had “communist leanings” in his past, but that he has since put all that behind him and become a moderate in his political beliefs. They are perhaps unaware of his fulsome praise of a communist dictatorship as late as 1991 when he and Winnie went to what they called their “second home” – Cuba – to celebrate the communist revolution with Fidel Castro. In his speech Mandela said:

      “Long live the Cuban Revolution. Long live comrade Fidel Castro… Cuban internationalists have done so much for African independence, freedom, and justice. We admire the sacrifices of the Cuban people in maintaining their independence and sovereignty in the face of a vicious imperialist campaign designed to destroy the advances of the Cuban revolution. We too want to control our destiny… There can be no surrender. It is a case of freedom or death. The Cuban revolution has been a source of inspiration to all freedom-loving people.”

      Mandela’s adulation of Castro and Cuba almost outshines that of his own admirers. In May of 1990 Mandela, visiting America, went on record, referring to Cuba:

      There’s one thing where that country stands out head and shoulders above the rest. That is in its love for human rights and liberty.

      A week later in Libya, he lauded Qaddafi’s:

      Committment to the fight for peace and human rights in the world.
      And Barry, like Nelson Mandela,

      is a third world communist social justice front man.

      http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1255245/posts

      Mandela with SACP boss, Joe Slovo

      “Nelson Mandela is a symbol, an icon, one of the world’s most famous statesmen, recognised and revered by all. He dines with royalty, associates with the world’s great leaders and his opinion is sought and valued on all weighty matters. He has achieved an almost divine status in the world, equal to that of the Pope or the late Princess Diana.”

      Many of his apologists optimistically claim that Mandela may well have had “communist leanings” in his past, but that he has since put all that behind him and become a moderate in his political beliefs. They are perhaps unaware of his fulsome praise of a communist dictatorship as late as 1991 when he and Winnie went to what they called their “second home” – Cuba – to celebrate the communist revolution with Fidel Castro. In his speech Mandela said:

      “Long live the Cuban Revolution. Long live comrade Fidel Castro… Cuban internationalists have done so much for African independence, freedom, and justice. We admire the sacrifices of the Cuban people in maintaining their independence and sovereignty in the face of a vicious imperialist campaign designed to destroy the advances of the Cuban revolution. We too want to control our destiny… There can be no surrender. It is a case of freedom or death. The Cuban revolution has been a source of inspiration to all freedom-loving people.”

      Mandela’s adulation of Castro and Cuba almost outshines that of his own admirers. In May of 1990 Mandela, visiting America, went on record, referring to Cuba:

      There’s one thing where that country stands out head and shoulders above the rest. That is in its love for human rights and liberty.

      A week later in Libya, he lauded Qaddafi’s:

      Committment to the fight for peace and human rights in the world.Mandela with SACP boss, Joe Slovo

      “Nelson Mandela is a symbol, an icon, one of the world’s most famous statesmen, recognised and revered by all. He dines with royalty, associates with the world’s great leaders and his opinion is sought and valued on all weighty matters. He has achieved an almost divine status in the world, equal to that of the Pope or the late Princess Diana.”

      Most people on the left of the political spectrum would agree wholeheartedly with the above quote. But they run into an unexpected problem when someone asks “why is he considered such a great statesman?”

      The problem is that Mandela, apart from having a likeable personality, has achieved next to nothing in his relatively short political career which saw South Africa rapidly decline to the status of the world’s most violent and crime-ridden country, and, to add to the confusion, his greatest friends are communists and dictators like Fidel Castro, Moammar Qaddafi, Yasser Arafat and Saddam Hussein. His ex-wife Winnie Mandela, whom he quickly jettisoned when it became clear she was a considerable embarassment to his political career, is a self-confessed advocate of terrorism and violence and has even committed murder.

      In his public statements and speeches Mandela is always critical of the democratic countries of the west, but has nothing but praise for the remaining communist dictatorships of the world. He condemns mistakes and controversial policies of the west, but refuses to publicly condemn the genocides and brutal repression of current or former communist countries; he is supposedly a “champion of freedom and democracy”, the “hero of oppressed people everywhere” but considers dictatorships like Cuba and Libya shining beacons of freedom and justice…

      Perhaps this is what makes Mandela such a revered statesman – chameleon-like he can advocate democracy and freedom as the highest ideals one day and hold up Cuba or Libya as shining examples for the world to follow the next day. And his admirers do not even notice the contradiction, or worse, they agree with him…

      Many of his apologists optimistically claim that Mandela may well have had “communist leanings” in his past, but that he has since put all that behind him and become a moderate in his political beliefs. They are perhaps unaware of his fulsome praise of a communist dictatorship as late as 1991 when he and Winnie went to what they called their “second home” – Cuba – to celebrate the communist revolution with Fidel Castro. In his speech Mandela said:

      “Long live the Cuban Revolution. Long live comrade Fidel Castro… Cuban internationalists have done so much for African independence, freedom, and justice. We admire the sacrifices of the Cuban people in maintaining their independence and sovereignty in the face of a vicious imperialist campaign designed to destroy the advances of the Cuban revolution. We too want to control our destiny… There can be no surrender. It is a case of freedom or death. The Cuban revolution has been a source of inspiration to all freedom-loving people.”

      Mandela’s adulation of Castro and Cuba almost outshines that of his own admirers. In May of 1990 Mandela, visiting America, went on record, referring to Cuba:

      There’s one thing where that country stands out head and shoulders above the rest. That is in its love for human rights and liberty.

      A week later in Libya, he lauded Qaddafi’s:

      Committment to the fight for peace and human rights in the world.

  • borborygmi45

    get him out of jail now. Why hasn’t he been brought to trial already?

    • yy4u2

      Because a society run by progressives like it this way. It employs more people for nonsensical things like apprehending and jailing this harmless individual.

  • WOOF

    You might be a terrorist.
    Texas
    Sec. 22.07. TERRORISTIC THREAT. (
    a) A person commits an
    offense if he threatens to commit any offense involving violence to any
    person or property with intent to:

    (1) cause a reaction of any type to his threat by an official or volunteer agency organized to deal with emergencies;
    (3) prevent or interrupt the occupation or use of a building; room;
    place of assembly; place to which the public has access; place of
    employment or occupation; aircraft, automobile, or other form of
    conveyance; or other public place; or
    http://www.bakers-legal-pages.com/pc/2207.htm
    that’s the 1999 statute , might be steroided up at this point.

    • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

      Don’t confuse the nutters with facts…..they can’t understand it when they don’t have it both ways.

      • mickey_moussaoui

        Coming from you of all people, that’s funny.
        Facts and liberals are like oil and water.

        • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

          Do you deny that the information WOOF provided are facts, based on the Texas law?

          Please expose your nuts……

        • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

          So no balls, Canadian?

      • jl

        With you being the “nut” in the story, right?

        • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

          Do you also disagree that the information provided by WOOF is Texas law?

        • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

          Don’t have the balls to answer, or what?

    • Drain52

      Don’t ever say “Get off my lawn.”

  • David Allan Cole

    Has anyone ever heard of common sense??????

  • John

    Justin Carter was arrested…. the next month. Clearly, this was really high on their priority list to get this kid. They didn’t arrest him out of fear / reasonable suspicion / probable cause. They arrested him out of retribution. That’s not how our criminal justice system is supposed to work. And if they really thought that the ‘threat’ was credible, they would’ve researched and discovered [easily] what LOL and JK stand for. With that being said, parents, keep your damn kids off the Internet. Posting something like that is a really really dumb idea, and the kid should get some sort of punishment. It shows that whether he was serious or not, the thought still crossed his mind. Defer his prosecution for a year, and order him to stay away from computers and electronic networks of any kind. And to the commenters blathering about gun violence: What makes you think that criminals are going to respect tougher laws on guns? Some kid just invented a way to print handguns with an $8,000 3D plastic printer. Guns aren’t going away, and making them illegal will ensure that only criminals and police will be carrying them. Law-abiding citizens are sure to get caught in the crossfire, with no way to defend themselves.

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