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Sunday, June 03, 2007

Teen In Idaho Starts Exercising His Second Amendment Rights To The Letter

There’s all sorts of laws about carrying concealed weapons, but what about openly carrying a fire arm?

POST FALLS—A teenager in Post Falls is exercising his right to bare arms to the letter, which is catching the attention of the town and the local police.

Zach Doty turned 18 in early April. Since then, he has been stopped more than twice for carrying a gun out in the open.

“I was wearing a suit and tie at the time,” Doty says about the first time he was stopped, “on my way to bible study.”

The Dotys have about 10 guns in their home ranging from hunting rifles, shot guns to the 9mm glock pistol that Zach carries on his hip. He doesn’t expect crime, but wants to be prepared.

zach doty: “I also believe that it’s very essential to open carry,” he says, “not just for self-defense from criminals but to protect liberty from tyranny.”

Zach’s father supports his son completely.

“The law does give the boys the right to carry arms and we can support that,” Jude Doty says, “and we wish more people would do that. It would probably reduce things that happened in Virginia Tech last month.”

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Idaho code allows people 18 and older to openly carry a firearm in public. Those aged 13-17, with parental permission, are allowed to carry a rifle.

A local police lieutenant had some interesting comments on the situation:

In a city of 20,000, violent crime isn’t exactly commonplace.

“Our crime rate for crimes against persons, major crimes, is very low in the community,” says Post Falls Lt. Scott Haug. . . .

“What if the person tripped and the gun went off?” Lt. Haug says. “What if someone took it away from them and misused it? Those are the concerns some people have. And the other side feels it’s a deterrent, and they’ll look at cases like Virginia Tech, and say had people at Virginia Tech been armed, maybe things would have changed a little bit.”

The concerns about accidental shootings, and someone stealing the gun, are rather silly I think.  We’re all allowed to own cars, after all, so what happens if we accidentally crash into someone else and hit them?  What happens if someone steals our car and uses it to rob a bank or run someone over?

Those are things that can happen, but they’re risks we accept for the convenience of having cars available to us.  Are these same risks not acceptable when it comes to carrying a gun for personal protection and as a crime deterrent?

I think they are.

Update by The Whistler

The police lieutenant said that [people are afraid] because there was a chance for the gun to go off if this person tripped.  That makes me wonder if he’s [these same fearful people are] in favor of taking the guns away from his police department because the police can trip too?  (Not to mention have their guns taken away from them.)

Comments

Good for him!

And I’m no expert on the Glock, but any gun that can go off “when you trip” isn’t safe for carrying around under any circumstances, much less well secured in a proper holster.  The fact that so many police carry the Glock leads me to beleive that it’s practically impossible for “a trip” to make it go off.


[Feet make good soup!]

Marty on June 4, 2007 at 04:37 am

Things that are not exercised tend to atrophy, whether it be muscles of the body or Constitutional rights.  Sometimes people need to have concrete examples put in front of them, not just theories.


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Chief RZ on June 4, 2007 at 05:29 am
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“What if the person tripped and the gun went off?” Lt. Haug says.

This may have been a concern, oh, a century ago, when the prudent carried only five rounds in their wheel guns, so the hammer didn’t rest on a cartridge. Today, with transfer bars and other safety devices, simply substitute “Barney Fife” for “Scott Haug” and you’re in the ball park!


For any voter trying to choose between the two candidates for commander in chief, there is no better test than this: When American strategy in a critical theater was up for grabs, John McCain proposed a highly unpopular and risky path, which he accurately predicted could lead to success. Barack Obama proposed a popular and politically safe route that would have led to an unnecessary and debilitating American defeat at the hands of al Qaeda.

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I own a .40 Glock, and unless I fell on a stick that just-so-happened to hit exactly right inside the trigger guard (preventable with the right holster) , or if I fell with my finger inside the trigger guard (which would probably indicate that I was in greater danger than that of an accidental discharge, it would indicate that I was about ready to shoot something!) you could conceivably get an accidental discharge, the same as you might from a wheel gun. But, highly unlikely!



For any voter trying to choose between the two candidates for commander in chief, there is no better test than this: When American strategy in a critical theater was up for grabs, John McCain proposed a highly unpopular and risky path, which he accurately predicted could lead to success. Barack Obama proposed a popular and politically safe route that would have led to an unnecessary and debilitating American defeat at the hands of al Qaeda.

Frederick W. Kagan

Proof on June 4, 2007 at 05:55 am

All my handguns are hsve double action triggers which makes them all most impossible to be accidently fired i.e. you have to press the trigger to cock them and then continue to press the trigger to shoot them.


You don’t have to be a moron to be a liberal Democrat but it sure helps.

docdave on June 4, 2007 at 03:44 pm

I assumed this guy was wearing a holster which would mean it’s unlikely you’d have your finger in the trigger guard.


What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.


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The Whistler on June 4, 2007 at 03:50 pm

you have to press the trigger to [expletive deleted] them and then continue to press the trigger to shoot them.

This is too funny!!  The ‘expletive deletated’ word was
c o c k.


You don’t have to be a moron to be a liberal Democrat but it sure helps.

docdave on June 4, 2007 at 09:55 pm
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