Tea Partiers, Anti-ObamaCare Extremists Target Norwegian Capital

I mean it is obvious, right?  Right?  Mayor Bloomberg, no?

No group has publicly taken responsibility for the blast and a U.S. counter-terrorism official told ABC News there is no indication yet of motive or suspects.

See, nobody has taken responsibility so it definitely could be someone upset over ObamaCare…and the DHS tells us that white folks, Christians probably, are the likeliest to be terrorists, so it just must be true. While we’re busy hunting down white, anti-Obamacare, Tea Partying extremists, lets give some assault rifles to Mexican drug cartels..oh wait, we’re already doing that.

When conservatives libertarians talk about less government, we’re talking about less of the rank stupidity of a DHS deliberately focusing away from the core problem of terrorism and the DOJ deliberately arming drug gangs with advanced weaponry.  Liberals may call less government “chaos” but I see alot of chaos despite and because of goverment.  Less power and less scope to be monumentally stupid, to me would be progress.

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  • Guest

    Hey Donny Baseball.

    When the white Christian militias stop trying to murder dozens of police during memorial marches, perhaps folks will stop thinking that they are likely to be terrorists.

    Moreover, since 9/11 more of the terrorists in the US have been religious right wing Christians than Muslims.

    So stop acting so injured.  Don’t you support police profiling if and when it involves variables correlated to crime?  If not, your con buddies might be disappointed.  If so, then what the f*ck are you bitching about?

    • $8194357

      You are another casulaity in the war against Juedo/Chritians free market capitalism wether you know it or not kid…Get a clue…

    • Neiman

      Give us the statistics that say since 911 most of the terrorists have been right wing Christians and not Muslims?

      • yy4u2

        Neiman…you know it’s not true as does everyone with a brain God gave a goose.  In some of your recent posts you mention how (paraphrasing) “the conservatives aren’t getting their word out yet the statist liberals are.  How can we change that?”  The statist liberal won’t go search for answers to their questions.  They want it spoon fed and by God, if and only if a (D) is attached to the name, will they listen.  They gobble it down like it was the antidote because they heard something from a conservative and it sounded truthful which made them feel bad because that is not what they were told to believe.

        • Neiman

          1st Sentence – agreed.

          Maybe I am naive, but I think since conservatism is better for America, that we need to get better at packaging and selling our product – to outsell the Left. We can do that without selling out our values one iota, no compromise, no deceit. In sales/marketing you learn the language your target audience speaks and learn to talk that language that they may understand your message and buy your product. If we have the best product, I just think we can and should examine our weaknesses in how we communicate and change the way we communicate, not change the message, change the way we talk about that message. But, it is all falling on deaf ears, so from now on I’ll pretend like everyone else we are winning even when we are not and hope that by saying “I want to go home” often enough it will become a reality. It will make everyone happier! Why should I fight for us to change and win the battles and the war, I’ll just click the heels of the conservative ruby slippers and presto chango we will win.

          • robert108

            Conservatives just need to tell the truth and stick to the facts, Neiman.  It’s liberals who need to “package” things.  We don’t need deception and a slick con man to convince the American people to adhere to the Constitution; we just need to counter the lies of the left with the truth.
            Give it a try some time.

          • Neiman

            You dirty little lying bastard! I never suggested tricks or deception on conning anyone, you are a sick pathological liar. I suggested a better way to convey a message truthfully but geared to the audience and that better communications offends your beliefs of “let em eat cake, are there no poor houses – no prisons, better they die and decrease the surplus population” brand of conservatism.

            You are a terribly sick individual and need psychiatric help or an exorcism.

          • robert108

            You just keep lying and running your violent temper, Neiman.  You said we should “package” our message, and I exposed that position for what it is.  You are constantly critical of conservatives, when all we have to do is tell the truth and stick to it.  Perseverance furthers, but you want to do things the leftie way.
            Your lies about conservatism are noted, and you have yet to make any solid suggestions or give any examples of the “packaging” you demand.
            Projecting your sickness on me simply shows that you accuse others of what you do yourself.  You have been bullying people with your personal theology for years on this blog.

          • Neiman

            No one can tolerate your mountain of lies without getting damn sick and tired of you. You lie and lie and lie and there is not one word of truth in you. Everything in his reply above is a damnable lie!

          • robert108

             I have told no lies, and you can’t make one factual argument to that effect.  All you do is spew lying smear personal attack with no facts.  Your bullying won’t work on me like it does to the well-meaning Christians who try to debate theology with you.
            You keep lying, I’ll keep smacking you with the truth.

          • Neiman

            More lies! I rebutted your every lie with links, with factual information and I have never bullied anyone. More lies, it is a sickness with you!

          • Neiman

            You want to keep playing games – fine, you are only making a fool out of yourself and showing yourself to be a liar of the first degree!

          • robert108

            You continue to be an angry bully and a liar.  I’m not playing any games; I suggest we ignore your defeatism and keep pounding the truth.

          • Neiman

            More lies. you cannot objectively, factually prove bullying – it is not just your subjective opinion, but based on your pathological lying we can safely assume it was just another lie. Another lie about defeatism, but the truth is not in you, Robert108 = all lies, all the time, flavored with his paranoia.

          • robert108

            You linked to one MSM poll, while I have presented a dictionary definition and a CNN poll that shows we’re winning.  You just want to bash conservatives.

          • Neiman

            More lies from you Nancy – I gave you two links and could have produced many that supported the idea that “debate” has a much wider definition and your dated dictionary definition was wrong. What is worse – leave the dictionary aside, you absolutely know that “debate,” rightly or wrongly, is used every day in a wider context, a much less narrow definition, but for you to admit that fact, you would be admitting you are wrong and you would rather commit suicide than ever admit you are not smarter than every man alive.

            I have never bashed conservatives, I do raise my voice to try and get them to wake up and look at what is happening realistically and consider new tactics, but have always affirmed my being a conservative.

            So, more lies from you!

          • robert108

            Your own words make you a liar.  You have been bashing conservatives for quite awhile now, so don’t compound your bearing of false witness by denying your own words.

          • ellinas1

            Sure you told lies. Every time you type something, it’s a damn lie.
            Shame on you, you lying bastard.
            Shame on you, you lying sonofabitch!

          • Neiman

            I wish since he is a conservative I could jump on you right now and verbally knock you down over what you said, but sadly you have been proven to be true in this particular case and it is sad to behold. As I just told him, he knew that “debate” had a generally accepted, wider, universally accepted definition, as you have noted he is too intelligent not to know. But, even proven wrong, he makes himself look much worse by attacking, lying and exhibiting extreme paranoia.

            I also now sympathize with his accusing you of making sexual, even sexually criminal advances towards him, I don’t know what went on between you two, but in my case I simply noted that in my day in the military with his arrogance and big mouth, he would have probably (past tense) gotten his butt kicked daily, He twisted that into me personally threatening him with violence and death.

            So, you get a free pass from me in the future, there is no reasoning with him. I say we the GOP need to improve our message/communications because the polls show the people, even Republicans are blaming the GOP for the stalled debt limit talks and that makes me  a defeatist. How can you reason with such a person? Anyway, from now on you get free swings at him as far as I’m concerned.

          • robert108

            I never made any advances to your little princess, Neiman, so don’t get jealous.  When you repeat his lies, you make yourself even more of a liar.  When you can’t bully me with your lying smears, you go to threats of violence and homosexual filth.  You’re just like them.
            The poll you are clinging to so desperately is wrong, and you can’t let go of it and embrace victory.

          • Neiman

            You are the one acting jealous and angry because they won’t love you, so Nancy I think you might want to come out of that closet.

            The rest are all lies!

          • robert108

            Just keep spewing homosexual filth in your desperate attempt to avoid the truth, Neiman.  Unlike you, I’m not here to be loved; I’m here to tell the truth, and to smack the liars.

          • HB

            WWJD?

          • robert108

            Btw, Neiman, if you can get off of your hate jag, how should we package ourselves to please you?

          • Neiman

            I hate no one, but I just tell the truth and you think it is hell.

            More lies, I never have demanded anyone package themselves in any way to please me, I have simply offered positive suggestions to take the conservative message to the people in a way that will better connect with them that conservatism might be more successful, but you want conservatism to lose so you can rant and rave against everyone. I have criticized how we conservatives are communicating, I offered you and them several steps that I believe will not ask for any compromise of principle, but will help people better see the human face of conservatism and thereby silence the Left from painting us as mean spirited. But, you cannot stand any criticism, no matter how positive.

          • robert108

            How exactly should we package ourselves, in your opinion?  Please give some specific examples.
            By definition, criticism is negative.  It is sometimes called “constructive”, though, which is usually just denial.

          • Neiman

            I have given you specific suggestions and even with the Ryan plan I offered the example of how he wanted to make those on these programs secure, thus shutting off any idea of throwing old people into the streets; and how, he would move generations not on those programs to private programs that would yield better health care and financial security on retirement. So, he keeps faith with the conservative idea of ending those entitlement programs and making younger generations more personally responsible for their future. It is oriented towards helping people, all of them, but keeps absolute faith with conservative goals.

            I won’t argue his plan or conservative values, I only offer an example of how we can change the way we communicate in more human terms and yet keep faith with our ideals.

          • robert108

            The Ryan plan, which I regard as a good start, is already here, so what needs to be “packaged”, according to you.  Try to use your own thoughts, not O’Reilly’s generalizations.
            Details, please.
            All you have given is vague generalizations; can you be specific?  What exactly do you want us to do?

          • Neiman

            I have given you an outline, I have showed an example of how that plan works in the real world in improving how we communicate and connect with the people; just because you do not have the intellectual necessities to understand and project this into other areas is not my fault and I refuse to keep jumping through hoops like a trained poodle for you. I have done more to answer you queries than you have ever done for anyone here.

            I have done my part, go to someone above your level, possibly 6th grade to help you further.

          • ellinas1

            Pistachios $12.00 bucks a pound.

          • robert108

            the genius speaks.

          • ellinas1

            He did know the definition of debate, even the one we called “wide” debate. He chose to lie in order to prevail.
            Of what good is it to think he is winning, when everybody knows he is lying?

          • Neiman

            I honestly don’t know, I seriously fear he is bordering on clinical lunacy, become unhinged and may do something extreme to silence those voices in his head.

          • robert108

            When you type, Neiman, you spew what those voices in your head are saying, especially the voice of O’Reilly.  You’re the one making threats, Neiman.  I don’t need to, as I just tell the truth and stick to the facts.  I see you and your little princess are discussing me; how sweet.

          • Neiman

            More of your homosexual lusts for him and jealousy?

          • robert108

            That’s all in your own mind, Neiman.  It is you who started spewing homosexual filth.  I rely on facts.

          • Neiman

            I not only have multiple times made it clear to all three of these cretins we are still enemies in our beliefs, but I told you I told them and made it clear to them and you that we shared conservative values; but, it is you that keeps getting upset calling them my allies and friends, despite my denials. That sure sounds like a fixation, more like jealousy and since they are males that must be gay feelings on your part. Or, the alternative is stop suggesting they and I are allies/friends.

          • robert108

            You and your little princess gossip about me, just like two teenage girls.

          • Neiman

            Ah there is that jealousy, craving his love!

          • HB

            WWJD?

          • HB

            WWJD?

          • ellinas1

            He would deliver a sermon against lying.

          • robert108

            And you would ignore it.

          • robert108

            Like your buddies the drama queen and the little princess, you are a compulsive liar.  I smack you with the truth, and you spit out lies and threats.

          • Neiman

            You are digging yourself in deeper and deeper with your lies – to them and to you I have made it clear I am not any less their enemy and that you and I generally agree on conservative values. So, despite that absolute fact – you lie and call them my buddies, are you jealous, do you have sexual feelings for them? You are acting like a spurned lover of theirs.

            You have one true thing – with you it is all lies – all the time. You have smacked me with nothing but lies.

          • robert108

            I tell nothing but the truth, and you can’t handle it, Neiman.  You are their friend, and you gang up with them to attack me, but I beat you and your little friends to a pulp every time.
            You are even using their tactic of spewing homosexual filth when I smack you with the truth.
            You’re sick, Neiman; you have lost your way.

          • Neiman

            Well said, like a real loser! You are a pathological liar and paranoid and call me sick, that is real Chutzpah.

            You are the one that keeps calling people my friends and allies when I have made it clear to them and you that they are not either thing and that you and I still share conservative values. But, your focus on my relationship with them sure sounds like jealousy and unrequited love for two men. Sounds pretty gay to me there Nancy!

          • http://realitybasedbob.sayanythingblog.com/ realitybasedbob

            Good job, Old Pal.
            Just a minor, correction.
            It’s actually choots paw.

            Carry on.

          • Neiman

            Gay Bob go away, we are bitter enemies, I still think you are demon possessed and I want nothing to do with you or your father in hell.

          • HB

            There seems to be a lot of hate in you today, Neiman.  If your emotions are causing you to sin, maybe you should take a healthy break from the blogs.

          • Neiman

            That is a lie! I have no hate for anyone at all, but since I am willing to oppose the Roman Catholic Church, naturally you are going to stand against me at every turn. It’s okay, it is the price for standing for the Truth, the world hated Christ and accused Him of having a devil and murdered Him, same with the Apostles, innumerable martyrs, the prophets, a man that stand for Truth is always hated.

            It is interesting you did not suggest my opponent was acting hatefully and should take a break away from here, I wonder what spirit in you wants to get rid of me? I doubt it is a clean spirit.

            If you are absolutely secure in your Roman Catholic faith, no opposition should cause you any concern, might I suggest you are not confident in your faith?

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            My brother, your self created religion has caused you to believe that at every corner your brothers are out to get you, and not only that but you declare their religion false because you have perverted yours so badly.

            You are using the bible to create an empty cocoon for your illness to destroy you from within.

            You worry a lot about homosexuals, but I fear none of the ones I used to know are on the brink so much as you are.

          • Neiman

            That is it, when you keep lying and call me brother – Gay Hannah, our conversations are over, we are in no way, shape, manner or form brothers.

            Still waiting for you to confess Jesus as your only Savior and only Lord and to condemn as sins homosexuality and abortion. Still waiting and you still keep failing to address those issues.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            You claimed HB didn’t have a relationship with Christ simply because he’s not born again. 

            You have invented your own version of a born again Christian.  You are distorting their teachings and the spirit of the Bible.

          • Neiman

            So you are saying I am alone in all the world among Christians claiming that one must be born again or they shall not enter into the kingdom of God? Is that what you are saying when you falsely accuse me of inventing my own version of Christianity or being Born Again? Did or did not Jesus say, were these not His words, not mine – “Ye must be Born Again?” You are saying that the doctrine of a new birth in Christ Jesus is not a doctrine generally of the Protestant Church and Evangelicals in particular and that I invented that doctrine on my own?

            There is a necessity of the regeneration of
            those, who are the chosen of God, and the redeemed of the Lamb; and of them
            only can the words be understood; for as for others, they neither can, nor
            will, nor must be born again: but the people of God “must”; partly
            because it is the will of God; it is his purpose and resolution, that they
            shall be regenerated; he has chosen them, through sanctification of the Spirit,
            unto salvation by Christ: this is the way and method of saving sinners he has
            fixed upon, namely, not to save them by works of righteousness, but by grace,
            and according to abundant mercy, through the washing of regeneration, and the
            renewing of the Holy Ghost: and partly, because of the case and condition of
            men, which requires it; for whereas the chosen people of God, are predestinated
            to the adoption of children, and are taken into the family of God, and are
            heirs to an inheritance, it is necessary they should have a nature, temper, and
            disposition of mind, suitable to the inheritance they are to enjoy; which they
            have not in their natural estate, and which is conveyed to them in
            regeneration: besides, their carnal minds are enmity to God, and it is
            necessary that they should be friendly to him, which cannot be without
            regeneration; nor can they, till they are born again, please God, or do those
            things which are pleasing to him: to which may be added, which Christ has
            before suggested, and which shows the necessity of it, that without it, no man
            can either see, or enter into the kingdom of God. To take off the surprise of
            Nicodemus, our Lord instances in a common natural case, and to which this
            affair of regeneration may be compared, and by it illustrated.

            Neither you nor possibly HB (I am not sure in his case) understand it because you have no part with Him, it is not meant by the Lord for you to undertand. Anyone that has come to Salvation knows that their old spiritual nature, like yours and as mine was, is at war with God and the things of God and that the only way to bring believers into a state of absolute submission to the Lord, is to accept by faith the death of their old fallen spirit nature with Christ on Calvary and then by His faith in us, being transformed in spirit to a new life in Christ, which is only to be known by having His Spirit in us, a new life, being a Born Again new creation in Christ Jesus. I am not perplexed that you, having refused to confess Christ, do not understand this simple, life transforming truth.

            Early in the last century a famous minister left his pulpit to a dear friend, when he returned some weeks later he was assaulted by many in his congregation complaining that this friend only preached one message in every service – “Ye must be Born Again.” When this famous pastor confronted the friend, he asked him why he only preached that single message and he answered, “Because Ye Must Be Born Again.”

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            I am stating that you said he did not have a relationship with Christ.  Who are you to declare that he does not have a relationship with Christ, Neiman?  Who do you think you are and why do you think yours is the only true religion?   Not only that, but you don’t even think born again Christians have a relationship with Christ, until they confess……to whom, Neiman?  To you!

            You think you are some sort of prophet or God.  You are just a lowly man who has lost his way to the kingdom of Christ who is turning away good men from God.

          • Neiman

            Get this through your lying head, I am not playing these demonic games with you today.

            If Jesus said you must be born again to enter into the kingdom of God, if one denies they are Born Again, doesn’t that mean they cannot enter in and thus have no intimate relationship with Christ? How can anyone outside Christ have an intimate relationship with Him? What do I care, you never answer these questions, you just attack with lies. Counter with Scripture the doctrine that “ye must be Born Again,” prove it wrong and/or prove you can not be born again of His Spirit and possibly have any relationship with Him. You do not answer, I’ll just ignore your lies.

            Look the Bible says if anyone is unwilling to confess Him before men, they are none of His. I did not say it, Jesus said it, take your complaint to Him, although Jesus does not debate, He will tell you just what He said in the Word and that was if you did not confess Him, He would not confess you before the Father as having any part of Him – you are lost. I have told you over and over no true Christian,  no one in love with Christ would resist a second to confess Him before anyone, at any time, for any excuse, You do refuse which says you are not one of His children. That is not my desire, not my choice – you have rejected Him, you are ashamed of Him, it is your responsibility.

            As to you last paragraph, since you are not a member of the Body of Christ, your opinion on my faith is immaterial and worthless, you have no standing in Christ.

          • HB

            Obviously you missed where I posted WWJD to others posts as well.  I think we all would be better off if we stuck to the issues and stayed away from personal filthy attacks.  Maybe we all can learn something positive from Jvette.

          • Neiman

            Sorry my source of inspiration, truth and example is Jesus – not your lord Jvette!

          • robert108

            Your hate is obvious, Neiman.

          • Neiman

            Prove it! Show where I hate any person, prove it by my words or shut up your lies. At least I am not like you, a pathological liar, a paranoid personality, a closeted gay and a borderline lunatic.

          • robert108

            Your hateful slurs, your threats of violence and your homosexual filth all demonstrate your anger very clearly.  You are in deep denial, so you will deny the evidence of your own words, just like your buddy the little princess does.
            Don’t project your personal hangups on me.

          • Neiman

            Ah, your only proof are more of your lies!

          • robert108

            You are allied with them, Neiman; you have already pledged your troth to the little princess.
            Now, you parrot their tactic of spewing homosexual filth.  You are one of them.

          • robert108

            I’m not the one threatening violence and spewing homosexual filth because he is losing an argument.

          • ellinas1

            Little woman. Stop yer lying, bitch!

          • HB

            WWJD?

          • ellinas1

            He would say a sermon about the ills of lying.

          • HB

            WWJD?

          • ellinas1

            He would say a sermon about the ills of lying.

          • ellinas1

            You sonofabitch. You lying weasel.
            Why must you always lie?
            Why do you avoid the truth? What has the truth done to you?

          • robert108

            Wow!  Neiman’s little buddy has her panties in a bunch and is namecalling like a fool.  You can’t handle the truth, liar.  Every time I smack you and your pal with the truth, you do the same thing; you call names and try to bully me, even though it never works.  I just smack you harder.

          • HB

            WWJD?

          • yy4u2

            Why buy the cow when they get the milk for free?  Their voter base are like addicts, Neiman.  They don’t have to work or work as hard and still live what they feel is an ok or shitty life tolerable to them yet are told that under the evil conservatives that their lives will be so much worse.  These unfortunate people live on liberal lies and handouts.  As for “fighting” for change…the few resident trolls here aren’t worth your time. R108, BatOne, Proof, Rob, Spart, Sig, yourself and others have pointed out the obvious to them countless times.  There will always be lost souls following the keynesian, statist, progressive liberal dream.  Keep throwing a few jabs and stay in the game.  We need conservative players not posers.

          • Neiman

            I agree about the liberal lies and addictions to hand outs and sincerely thank you for encouragement at a time I feel under attack just for suggesting we might find victory on a different communications road.

            Sincerely, thanks I was getting angry at all the attacks and your encouragement came just in time.

          • robert108

            I have asked you many times for your specific suggestions for victory, Neiman, but so far, nothing but generalizations and lying smear.  Your attacks on me have earned you a good smacking.  If you don’t like it, stop attacking.

          • Neiman

            More lies! Yesterday I gave you a very specific list of suggestions, I am not responsible if you cannot read!

          • robert108

            No, just general criticisms of what you think conservatives think and are doing, unless you consider “packaging” a specific suggestion.  Try to stop lying and come up with some facts, if you have any.
            BTW, your defeatism just got smacked; obama just had a very angry press conference, as he knows he’s losing.  If we can just stop the defeat peddlers like you, and stay strong, we will win, and the American people will win.  Get off your high horse, Neiman.

          • Neiman

            More lies –  I gave many specific suggestions based on a single theme of better communications.

            More lies – first I am not a defeatist, but a realist that can see a wrong track and suggest changes before we derail based on blind stupidity. There is no objective evidence Obama believes he is losing, all the polls suggest that the people are blaming the GOP NOT Obama or the Democrats.

            If they all weasel out and pass an extension and he signs it, we will face this during this election cycle and with the polls showing anger at the GOP for failure to mix increased revenue with spending cuts, there is always the risk the voters can express their rage at the voting booth. But, if we improve our communications as I have suggested, then we can turn a negative into a positive.

            Your inane attacks on me on demonstrate, prove I have beat the crap out of you in our debate, at every point proving you wrong and that you lied in ever comment.

          • robert108

            Now you’re spewing homosexual filth like your buddy the little princess.  All defeatists insist that they are realists.  We’re not on the wrong track, despite your hopes to the contrary; it is you who are on the wrong track.  You babble about debate, but you can’t seem to manage it; all you so is shout lies and make violent threats.
            Only one poll agrees with your defeatism; I have smacked you with the CNN poll that shows us winning, but you choose defeat.
            Our communications should be to tell the truth, not try to play the Dem “packaging” game like you want.
            You have been smacked again and again with the truth, but you continue to lie.  I have told the truth, and you have failed to provide any factual evidence to the contrary.
            The way to increase revenue is to drill, baby, drill.  Too bad you don’t know that.

          • HB

            Hate is self destructive, how sad.

          • Mike Adamson

            Speaking as a guy whose contributions to SA now consist primarily of sarcastic trolling, I can only encourage you not to respond to comments which are designed to provoke a series of exchanges such as this one. Everybody here knows whose writing can be taken as honest comment and debate and whose can not. Avoid the temptation and you’ll reap the benefits.

          • Neiman

            I truly want to resist the temptations of these endless, useless exchanges that benefit no one really. It is hard not to defend myself against unjust attacks and mindless lies, but I would prefer to take your advice and just let it go, I’ll pray to do better.

          • http://realitybasedbob.sayanythingblog.com/ realitybasedbob

            But you won’t, huh Old Pal.

          • robert108

            When you stop your unjust attacks on me for correcting you, and when you stop your spewing homosexual filth, when you stop your threats of violence and your lying smears, I’ll stop smacking you with the truth.
            If you ever want to actually debate something, I’m ready, but you will have to be able to control your temper when someone disagrees with you.  You have railed and attacked many people here for disagreeing with you, and it’s up to you to stop your hateful ways.

          • robert108

            “Speaking as a guy whose contributions to SA now consist primarily of sarcastic trolling…”

            Sarcasm is a form of anger, dishonestly expressed, so you get back what you put out, Mike.  You just admitted to being the dishonest one.

    • http://www.bikebubba.blogspot.com bikebubba

      Since when have white militias of any type tried to murder dozens of police during memorial marches?  Refresh my memory, Sparkless, but I just visited ADL and read their article about right wing militias, and they suggest no such thing.

      (and shame on you, Insanitized, for agreeing with his nonsense!)

      And most terrorists since 9/11 have been religious right wing Christians?  Source, please.  Again, I’ll thank you to stop filling this forum with bovine scat.

      • Guest

        “Since when have militias of any type tried to murder dozens of police during memorial marches?”
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hutaree#Criminal_investigation

        “Source, please.”
        http://www.mpac.org/assets/docs/publications/MPAC-Post-911-Terrorism-Data.pdf

        • http://www.bikebubba.blogspot.com bikebubba

          Let the record show that Sparkless is evidently citing the “Muslim Public Affairs Council” as an unbiased source regarding the question of whether terrorism is primarily Muslim or not.

          Sparkless, if an alleged plot and an obviously interested party is the best you can do to back up your allegations, may I suggest you’d do well to consult a good proctologist to get your head out of there?

          • Guest

            It’s a presentation of events.  If you don’t believe that any Muslims can tell the truth, do you think Algebra is false, too?

            How about this.  Look at the list.  Name all the non-Muslim terrorism or Muslim terrorism that has happened during the time period in question and is not on the list.  That is how you challenge a source.  With facts, not with bigotry.  I bet you knew that, you’re a big boy.

            More like you are bummed that I am right and now you are just trying to paint me as a Muslim lover.  Good luck.

            The bottom line remains that there have been enough right wing domestic terrorist attacks recently to justify profiling.  Period.  End of sentence.

          • http://www.bikebubba.blogspot.com bikebubba

            Bummed that you are right?  I’m sorry, Sparkless, but if this group can’t figure out that John Allen Muhammad was a member of NOI and thus his terrorism was inspired at least by an aberrant version of Islam, what trust can we have in any of this?

            Sorry, Sparkless, but you got caught once again using garbage sources, and instead of continuing as planned, you ought to fess up and apologize.  Period.

          • Guest

            I said include the Malvo/JAM killings.  The numbers still aren’t on your side.

            In fact, the Malvo/JAM killings are a good case study.  You assert that this guy who was mass murdering kids in Norway wasn’t doing it because of his political beliefs (1500 pages by his own hand to the contrary) or his religion.  How many/Which of the ‘muslim’ terrorist attacks should we strike on the same premise, oh wise one?

            Strikes me that the Malvo/JAM killings were just the action of disturbed individuals, too.  But we’ll leave that in the Muslim tally and remove the Norwegian from the right wing tally.  That still leaves more domestic terrorism committed by those on the political left within the US since 9/11.  That is… your side of the aisle.

          • http://www.bikebubba.blogspot.com bikebubba

            With all due respect, you’re missing the point.  By labeling DC sniper and other NOI killings as “other than Muslim,” your Muslim interest group isn’t just getting one thing wrong; they are revealing a bias which demonstrates that nothing they say can be trusted.

            Besides, if we contrast things in terms of relative rates, the 40 or so Muslim terrorist killings/events by the 2% or so of Americans who are Islamic is a heck of a lot worse than the 40 or so killings by the 98% who are not–we are talking over an order of magnitude worse.

            Sorry, Sparkless, you should be embarassed at citing such a garbage report.

          • Guest

            Judging from the error rate over at FoxNews, you must have repudiated them long ago… oh, wait… they aren’t Muslims.

            Happy hunting.

          • Guest

            So you concede the point that more domestic terror has come from right wingers than it has from militant Muslims (who are also right wingers, amusingly) since 9/11?

            Thanks.

          • http://www.bikebubba.blogspot.com bikebubba

            Sparkless, I’ll concede that you have no understanding of how to process evidence, and I’ll further concede that you have absolutely no clue about how to spot a pervasive bias. 

            Or, more likely, you do and you don’t care, because any club will do when it’s hitting someone with whom you disagree.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Speaking of pervasive bias, when are you going to concede that this was a Christian Fundamentalist?  After you do that, visit a therapist and talk to him about that deep denial you are living in.

          • http://www.bikebubba.blogspot.com bikebubba

            Well, in his manifesto, Anders Breivik notes that he has no particular faith in God, and notes as well that his spiritual and intellectual center is no less than Charles Darwin.  Add that to copious plagiarism from the Unabomber, and I think it’s a fair assumption that Breivik is anything but a Christian fundamentalist.  Really a lot closer to your camp, Insanitized.

          • $8194357

            Hanni has no real idea of what “Christian fundementalism” really is, bubba…Fundementalism is taking the Bible lierally enough to follow what it says to do and try and be what it says we should be…Thats not a “political idealogy” in any way shape or form…We as “Funementalists” should then of our own free will vote our conscience and support canidates who sipport simmilar positons…What this poor mis-guided useful lemming doesn’t understand is it is all still comes from our personal free will to do or not to do what God encourges us to do….Sad waste of young brain matter…

          • Guest

            Neither of your concessions is true, assclown.

            My unofficial rule is to consider everyone a liar.  From there, a vague semblance of the situation can be gleaned.  It’s clear that, to correct for the dreck on this blog, Muslim PR firms are probably a good place to begin negotiations.  You can deny that, and pretend to be unbiased and objective, but it’s just a lie.  BatOne has already admitted that he lies for policy advantages.  How many more do, but haven’t been caught admitting it yet?

          • http://www.bikebubba.blogspot.com bikebubba

            Yeah, because quoting people whose bias is so transparent that they cannot even admit that the Nation of Islam is Islamic is always a great way to get an investigation off to the right start.  Nothing says “good will” to one’s opponent in a debate like quoting a fanatic to try and make your point.

            cripes, Sparkless, you’re proving my point for me.  BTW, here’s a link about the “religious” leanings of the Norway murderer.  He’s a secular humanist, most closely.

            http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=325765

          • Guest

            Find me a source other than WorldNutDaily and NewsMax and maybe I’ll look.

          • http://www.bikebubba.blogspot.com bikebubba

            Here you go.  His manifesto itself.

            http://www.zerohedge.com/article/mass-killer-andrew-berwicks-aka-anders-breivik-complete-777724-word-manifesto

            Note that he apparently has comments “thou shalt hate Christianity and Judiasm.”  Boy, that sounds like the 700 Club, doesn’t it, Sparkless?  Start around page 680 and you’ll see that the guy is a secular humanist.

          • Guest

            You are the only one who said anything about the nation of islam and I said since the start that I’ll grant you that case.

            It still doesn’t work to your favor, as I have pointed out and you have ignored.

            We’ll just peg this one to your apologizing for the Christian mass-murderer and be done with it, lying sack of hatemongering sh*t.

        • http://www.bikebubba.blogspot.com bikebubba

          OK, looked through the report as well, and these clowns are excluding Nation of Islam terrorism and the DC sniper shootings, committed by Nation of Islam member John Allen Muhammad,  from the list of Muslim terrorist acts.  OK, I’ll grant that NOI isn’t approved in Saudi Arabia and such by the imams, but since when is it not Muslim?  It holds to the five pillars.

          I’m sorry, Sparkless, but if you’re citing anything by these clowns, you have absolute zero credibility.  You may, however, be welcome to take a walk around many farmers’ fields and talk, since your words really can help the crops.  Just don’t talk too much and bury the field too deeply.

          • Guest

            How many terrorist attacks have they left out?  You can include the Malvo killings even though we know those are borderline…

  • $8194357

    Probebly those same folks Napalitano put on the watch list here at home. Ex Military folks or folks “overly” concerned about communism and the Constitution. White supremasists, or Ayrian Nation race warriors could be a possibility, but like after Ft. Hood, don’t any of you dare jump to conclusions it has anything to do with Islam now, hear…

  • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

    Liberals may call less government “chaos” but I see alot [sic] of chaos despite and because of goverment. [sic]

    …And that’s precisely your problem and more likely your mental disorder.

    Oh, and where’s the spelling and grammar coaches when you really need them?  I expect that jack@ss Bat One to be all over you, telling you, and the rest of us, how English is your second language.

  • DonnyB

    Sparkie-
    I don’t think there is any evidence to support what you are saying, but if there were, I say “profile away”.  If the Christians are doing bad things…round ‘em up.  Just as if you want to round up some drunks, St.Paddy’s Day in NYC would be a fine start (and that’s my tribe), if we want to stop the wonton violence against innocents and Western civil society, we have to taken Islamic Radicals or Muslim Terrorists.  can you say those words without your head exploding Sparkie:  MUSLIM TERRORISTS.  C’mon say it, it’s OK.  You’re still a good liberal if you say it…just a practical and sensible one.  C’mon in, the water is fine here in CommonSenseLand.

    • Guest

      Donny

      Many Muslims are terrorists.  Many skinheads, both of the right and left wing (e.g. Stormfront types in the former case and Black Bloc types in the latter), are terrorists.  And so on and so on.

      How, for example, would you describe the mass killings of refugees in camps in Lebanon in the 1980s with the help of the Lebanese Phalagalist Christians?  I’d call that terrorism.  800+ kids, women, etc. killed with machine guns?

      We ought to make sure that we don’t fall into using the word terrorist for just our current enemies, or is a classist manner.  Many of these ‘terrorists’ in Afghanistan have all but won.  We got suckered into a retarded war out of anger.  They have slowly been bleeding us down.  Now we are talking about withdrawing troops, no victory in sight, now we are paying off the tribes to fight for us, and hoping to have a neutral or friendly govt when we leave.  The same situation the Soviets found themselves in around 1987.

      So until you folks prove that you can steel yourselves and outsmart the putative terrorists, instead of having them play your emotions and actions like a fiddle, perhaps we ought to seek the advice of those who don’t stick their necks into guillotines out of anger or revenge.

  • DonnyB

    Obviously, one is a typo that happens when you type fast, as I was doing.   “Alot” is considered acceptable in informal writing.   Blogging is considered an informal medium.  Now, do you have anything substantive to add?

    • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

      Well, I certainly can make an argument.  I have no control over your decision to label them “substantive” or not, so I will leave that up to others to decide.  That being said; I don’t really believe your argument was “substantive”, in the least.  What is your point other than to make Tea Partiers out to be victims, but look like martyr’s at the same time?

      Based on the reading I have done almost every reason and group has been considered.

      There was speculation that yesterday’s attacks could be linked to Norway’s military involvement in Nato operations in Afghanistan, where it has 500 soldiers, or Libya, where Norwegian jet fighters are flying sorties.

      Norwegian television reported that a previously unknown group called “Helpers of the Global Jihad” had posted a message online claiming the attacks were “only the beginning” of a response to the decision by Norwegian periodicals, like other Scandinavian media, to
      publish cartoons portraying the prophet Muhammad.

      Last week a Norwegian prosecutor charged an Iraqi Kurdish cleric, Mullah Krekar, the
      founder of the Ansar al-Islam militant group, with making death threats against Norwegian politicians.

      In July last year police arrested three Muslim immigrants from Iraq, Uzbekistan and China for allegedly plotting bomb attacks using peroxide explosives. The authorities said the suspects had links with al-Qaida and one of them visited the Pakistani tribal area of Waziristan, an al-Qaida stronghold.

      Norway presented a softer target than other western capitals with experience
      of terrorism. Government buildings were not protected by bollards or anti-blast curtains. Observers predicted Norway’s relaxed attitude to security would change, as in neighbouring Sweden, which was hit by a suicide blast against Christmas shoppers in Stockholm. The bomber, Taimur Abdulwahab al-Abdaly, was an Iraqi-born Swede who studied in
      Britain.

      I don’t see anything about Tea Party folk mentioned in this report.  Why are you acting like a big victim?

      Also, the notion that big government causes chaos is patently absurd.
       
      I agree with you regarding typo’s and the formalities associated with a blog, however, rest assured that your friends don’t feel the same way and go out of their way to make race based conclusions about the types of grammar and spelling error’s made by people with dark skin, namely me.  Therefore, knowing Bat One is a close friend and very fond of your commentary, I am very much looking forward to his response to your errors.

    • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

      Did you go silent once an argument was made, DonnyB?

    • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

      Oh Donny B.  Where did you go, Donny?

    • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

      Still waiting,….. DonnyB?

  • SigFan

    The ever loving religion of peace up to it’s usual:

    “A terror group, Ansar al-Jihad al-Alami, or the Helpers of the Global Jihad,
    issued a statement claiming responsibility for the attack, according to Will
    McCants, a terrorism analyst at C.N.A., a research institute that studies
    terrorism. The message said the attack was a response to Norwegian forces’
    presence in Afghanistan and to unspecified insults to the Prophet Muhammad.”

    The rest of the article:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/23/world/europe/23oslo.html?_r=2&hp

    It goes on to quote some local Muslim official as saying the Muslim community in Norway condemns the attacks, which is good.  Better yet, how about all you loyal Norwegian Muslims help infiltrate and bring the scum-suckers that did this to justice?

    • yy4u2

      Just like they did here in America.  Oh wait.  Uh…well, just like those that want to build a mosque in ND.  Ummmm…hold on a cotton pickin’ second.  Are we that stupid?  Looks like they need some of our TSA people to stop this from happening. 

  • John Wayne, American

    Hey Rob, we’re not giving weapons to Mexicans, we’re selling them, its called balance of trade, they buy our guns, we buy their drugs, and to keep our part of the deal balanced, we support as many of their non edjukated peasants as they can deliver to our southern border.  

    see how that works?

    • http://sayanythingblog.com Rob

      Rob didn’t write this post.

  • Janne Myrdal

    You all really think this is a time to discuss politics, when the blood of Norwegian Youth is coloring the waters red on the coast of Norwegain isle.  Sick!!!

    • robert108

      The murders were politically motivated.

      • DonnyB

        Indeed.  Those murders were just “politics by other means.” And I am discussing the strategy and tactics by which we wage this “politics by other means” exercise against our “political” opponents.  I find the strategy and the tactics to be flawed, and grievously so.  Approaching the challenge more intelligently will, ultimately, I pray, reduce as much as possible the potential that the innocent blood of children will be spilled in such a manner.  This should not happen, but it will unless we take more effective measures to ensure that it doesn’t.

  • awfulorv

    This coddling of Muslims is finally paying off for Norway. They had 100% of rapes being committed by the slime, but that didn’t awake them to fury, maybe this will, but it’s doubtful…

    • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

      Uh oh, turns out it was a blond.  Now what?  You probably don’t feel stupid, but you should.

      • robert108

        Look for a sharia school, he must be a convert.

    • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

      So what will the Norwegians awake to now, studakota?  What lesson should this teach them about blond Christian fundamentalists? 

  • mikemc1970

    Maybe like the Times Square bomber they are just upset about losing their home. Or like Maj. Hasan they are just disgruntled government employees.

  • http://realitybasedbob.sayanythingblog.com/ realitybasedbob

    When Ass needs Hat nutters are there.

    the DHS tells us that white folks, Christians probably, are the likeliest to be terrorists, so it just must be true.

    Pictured: The blond Norwegian, 32, arrested over ‘holiday island massacre’ and linked to Oslo bomb blasts

    The 32-year-old Norwegian man arrested for gunning down children on the holiday island of Utoya has been named locally as Anders Behring Breivik.

    Described as 6ft tall and blond, he is reported to have arrived on the island of Utoya and opened fire after beckoning several young people over in his native Norwegian tongue.

    Reports suggest he was also seen loitering around the site of the bomb blast in Oslo two hours before the island incident – and also before the capital’s explosion.

    More than 30 are believed to have been killed – seven in Oslo and between 25 to 30 on Utoya Island, 50 miles north of the capital.

    Police have said the attacks do not appear to be linked to Islamist terrorism.

  • awfulorv

    Just as I thought. Some Muslim-Terrorist / Mexican Cartel wannabe. He had the right idea, the kill the Commies and all but, obviously couldn’t count well enough, and ran out of bullets.  I see they’ve got their version of the Keystone Cops though, they can’ts eem to determine where the blast went off.

  • Jamermorrow

    No Christian Churches can be built in Norway now. I am not riding on a plane next to a white guy anymore. White people are always blowing shit up and molesting little kids.

  • http://realitybasedbob.sayanythingblog.com/ realitybasedbob

    We are all Norwegian today.

    On the island of Utoya, panicked teens attending a Labour Party youth wing summer camp plunged into the water or played dead to avoid the assailant in the assault that may have lasted 30 minutes before a SWAT team arrived, police said.

    …The suspect in police custody – a blonde blue-eyed Norwegian with reported Christian fundamentalist, anti-Muslim views – has been preliminarily charged with acts of terrorism.

    • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

       Funny how this Donny-basehead fellow became silent all of a sudden.

      • http://realitybasedbob.sayanythingblog.com/ realitybasedbob

        Can’t really judge on that basis.
        He might be busy.

        • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

          Indeed, he is probably busy.  Busy denying the change of events and what has occurred.  It’s likely he has no comprehension that his denial is the true reason for his avoidance.

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