nope, I don’t, I don’t like taking orders, but I respect and admire those that are in any branch of the military

Wow! Just watching that little clip choked & teared me up! It is a good thing I don’t have HBO. Although it looks really good.

Let’s take a wild guess; thejackle wants to join the Army.

like you RR …Harry Reid Stands Small On Iraq. Try to find your inner Marine

http://www.observer.com/2007/harry-reid-stands-small-iraq

Show actuall proof or GTFO

Even if that bullcrap is true not everything needs to be about us idiot (BTW that’s your new name). I know Kurds who had to run and fight their way out of Iraq while sadam dumped acid on them. sadam killed people like crazy just because he wanted to. If all your lies were even true, we still should have done what we did in order to help those he targeted.

RR (troll):

Semper Fidelis and Peace…

He repeats this because it MEANS something to us, and those who serve. He is trying to bait and egg on those of us who honor the military members who serve; brothers and sisters, aunts and uncles, fathers and mothers.

He says this not because it means anything to him; he says it because he wants to get a rise out of those of us who actually honor and respect our miltary men and women.

Troll-ish behaviour.

Rob:

It was excellent, and not one bit of politics in it one way or the other.

Good stuff.

I was listening to the movie review on the medved show driving home Friday, and heard he gave this 4 stars. Due to the fact there was no political leanings either way. It was a straight tail of respect and honor of the military, and while it talked about violence, it did not show any.

It was highly recommended.

I’ve got it set to DVR.

HBO was advertising this her eon Say Anything this last week. That’s how I picked up on it. I’m not familiar with the story. Looking forward to watching it.

Rather than attack me, how about defend your position?

How about defending yours with some real data? All you have done is continuously rant how we shouldn’t be in Iraq.

And as far as name calling is concerned, you are no virgin. For instant just in this thread you have accused Neiman of being brain-washed and accused all those that disagree with you of being clueless.

Rugby:

Again, y’all have no clue about Iraq. Thank you for stating it for me. There is nothing heroic about an occupation.

People died over there. They willingly put themselves in danger for the betterment of others.

And all you can do is disparage them. Nothing “heroic” about it???

Go fuck yourself, you lying cowardly piece of dickless shit.

The “truth” Norway Boy has been is that America is evil, all AMerican’s deserve death, and socialism is its religion. Not surprising for some one who refused to serve the US in any capacity whatsoever.

As for Gen Butler, it is the only one who mentioned the man, and did so as a strawman distraction, and nothing more.

You’re close to right RR. We SHOULD never have been in Afghanistan or Iraq if Pres Clinton had been responding to numerous attacks by AQ on the US interests. They were at war with us for many years and Clinton ignored it. I am afraid we have another pres right now who wants to ignore danger and “hope” it goes away.

Chance Phelps never should have been killed in Iraq. Too bad for him, and too bad for his family, that he died for Bush’s lies.

Semper Fi, dude…

No American killed in Iraq died securing Freedom and Democracy in a foreign country.

Another outright lie; Saddam Husseing was a murdering dictator, and we freed the Iraqi people from him.

Thank you for sharing your experiences with the group, Neiman.

RR:
One: I know more about the cost of that war in Iraq than you will ever know! While I served in Vietnam, I have had family that served and are serving in Iraq and I know what it cost!

Two: The record is clear about why we went into Iraq, whether or not the WMD’s were found, we went in with Congressional approval, with U.N. approval and with overwhelming, international intellignece data that supported that action. Just because you disagree wuth our going in there, you were not CIC and your opinion has little value.

Three: You continue to ignore the main issue, like a craven coward; that being, you used this story about an authentic American hero to attack Bush like any advanced BDS sufferer, and doing so dishonored this fine Marine in the process. Shame on you!

BTW Neiman, you are welcome to join me for a drink and conversation anytime at Lee’s Bar in Rugby.

Semper Fidelis

Peace…

If RR was a Marine, he was a BAM (Broad Assed Marine), a female Marine and probably a bitch for a bull dike BAM!

Not one lie has ever been proven on Bush’s part, not one, to justify the war. He had the support of Congress, many of whom were even more in favor of war in Iraq, including most Democrats and the all had the exact intelligence briefings as did Bush. So, if Bush lied, so did they all.

Nonetheless, despite cowards like RR and some other weenies that opposed the Iraq War, whether or not Bush or anyone else lied had nothing at all to do with whether or not this Marine and the Colonel deserved these honors; and any real Marine or Patriot would have held back their BDS long enough to just honor such heroes and attack Bush elsewhere.

I would never drink with ignorant America haters like RR!

Sadly..Ameica has spawned many millions of Half-Breed, non American citizens that have no business calling themselves Americans. As usual…the brave soldiers like Chance give their lives for these pitiful examples of humanity. These are the Obama sheep…the deadbeat society who lives without morals, salvation, or common decency.

Sanity, Rugby Reader sounds more like a Code Pinker or a Cindy Sheehan Kook! No one is forcing anyone to Serve. It isn’t as if we have a Draft! He is obviously a Coward who thinks sitting behind a computer bashing the War in Iraq, claiming to be a Marine is going to further his anti American agenda. AND using a thread that is a Tribute to a young Marine who gave his life securing Freedom and Democracy in a foreign country is even more Pathetic!

well said Neiman….courage of conviction is an unknown quality of character to libs of today

their situational ethics and moral equivocations are the signs of a nation adrift…

for if the trumpet gives an uncertain sound, who shall prepare himself for the battle?

I think RR is Harry Reid…

LBH,

There are certainly lots of reasons to slap the witless Harry Reid around… but he is not worthy of this insult.

Smedley Darlington Butler (July 30, 1881 — June 21, 1940), was an authentic military hero; but, he was a Quaker, a member of that pacifist religious sect and thus his political/religious views have nothing to do with his record of heroism (Twice awarded the Medal of Honor).

It is like that pig Murtha, no matter what he did as a Marine Officer in Vietnam, which I fully honor, his later extreme Left Wing views and his recent bizarre behavior have nothing whatsoever to do with his valor in battle.

Still, the matter of Butler, Murtha and Bush have nothing at all to do with your dispicable dishonoring of Chance, an authentic American Military hero! So either stick to the subject or admit your advanced ADD!

rugby reader displays colossal ignorance…

There is nothing “heroic” about an occupation.

Then we are to assume that there was nothing heroic about the occupation of Hitler’s Germany, imperial Japan, fascist Italy, endangered South Korea?

The so-called ‘occupation’ of Iraq is the end-result of Saddam Hussien’s machinations in the Middle East, starting with Kuwait.

The Marine got killed in Iraq for no good purpose.

AS I said, because of your saying that, you are a no good, anti-American sonofabitch. In your case, I wish your mother believed in abortion and flushed you down the toilet. What a low life bastard you are!

A true Iraqi veteran would have the pride and courage to give more detailed information about themselves and their unit.

No one is asking you to give your SS number in order to be recognized.

One has to admit that RR’s blog image gives off the stench of “poser”.

BTW, not one single service member has done anything “heroic” in Iraq. There is nothing “heroic” about an occupation.

Thanks, axxkicker! There should be brisk sales on the DVD!

corrupt politicians like Bush and Cheney.

Kinda says it all. Can anyone show where/how they were corrupt..? I am sick of the left’s whinny BS. Bush and Cheney are no longer in office. Look at the asses you elected to point your fingers.

atease

one pissed off citizen

We have done nothing in Iraq except enrich corrupt war profiteers, vis-a-vis, Dick Cheney. Every American and Iraqi who has been killed or maimed since shock-n-awe commenced is a result of Bush’s lies to the American public and to the world.

Semper Fidelis

Peace…

I apologize to everyone else here for my uncivil response and coarse language in responding to that piece of filth!

No American killed in Iraq died securing Freedom and Democracy in a foreign country. The invasion and occupation of Iraq has nothing to do with Freedom and Democracy. It’s all about lies and deception, greed and corruption. That’s the Bush legacy.

Well, if you ever show up at the Pierce County Memorial Hall for the American Legion meeting on Thursdays, I will be the one sporting the “Iraq Veterans Against the War” t-shirt.

Semper Fidelis

Peace…

Guess what sadam had Biological weapons and was in the middle of making weapons grade nuclear material. If you actually kept up on things going on in the military you would have learned that you idiot.

RR,

You’ve made your point about your opposition to the War on Terror, Iraq, and Afghanistan. Tediously.

Everyone now knows your opinion, and no one seems to be much convinced by your argument or much in agreement with your point of view. Sorry.

Why not give it a rest, stop hijacking the thread, and allow others to discuss the movie, Taking Chance which was the original subject.

BTW anyone know when it’ll come out on DVD?

Don’t know, but to their credit, HBO did a fabulous job on this. The casting of Kevin Bacon, whatever his personal opinions may be, was perfect. The story line and dialogue were true to the original. It was immensely powerful, evocative, and hauntingly beautiful. I had tears in my eyes throughout the whole thing.

Who cares if it wasn’t a threat to Bismarck. There are other parts of the USA then Bismark you idiot. Also saddam needed to be killed so no matter what, what we did was right.

It’s interesting none of the Iraq experts here have ever been to Iraq.

Funny, Ruh-Roh, but I didn’t think you had to be an “expert” on anything to appreciate the sacrifice that men like Chance Phelps have made, or the devotion to duty and honor that men like LtCol M.R.Strobl have demonstrated.
Just like you don’t have to be a bitter, brain dead, anti-American ex-Marine to piss all over them! Oh, wait! Maybe you do?

The truth that the invasion of Iraq was based on lies

Demonstrating once again that you wouldn’t know the truth if it bit you on the *ss!

Leave it to Ruh-Roh Reader, the individual (I almost said “man” by mistake!) who claims to have been a Marine, who believes in “Semper I“, to come in and piss all over the memory of this brave individual!

Semper Fi, dude…

What happened to “Semper I“, POS Reader?

I noticed that he wore six ribbons over his marksmanship badge; the senior one was his Purple Heart. I had been in the Corps for over 17 years, including a combat tour, and was wearing eight ribbons. This Private First Class, with less than a year in the Corps, had already earned six.

-LtCol Strobl on PFC Chance Phelps

BTW anyone know when it’ll come out on DVD?

to get back on topic, if you’re interested in the dvd:

http://store.hbo.com/sm-taking-chance-dvd–pi-3473175.html

You have no clue, heroics is a persons actions not a groups. BB, STFU and GTFO, the toxic air that is coming out of your mouth can be kept on your own blog and in you own mockery of an orginization.

The false claim the Saddam had WMD. A lie.

Two important points from the article below:

***prisoners confirmed al-Qaida had a presence in Iraq

***Iraqis under the command of Uday Hussein, one of Saddam Hussein’s sons, supported the al-Qaida elements in the country with training and providing safe harbor

Here’s the article:

U.S. official: Iraqis told me WMDs sent to Syria
Former head of prisons says incarcerated ex-Saddam forces disclosed move

Posted: July 30, 2008
11:20 pm Eastern

By Ryan Mauro
© 2008 WorldNetDaily

A former American overseer of Iraqi prisons says several dozen inmates who were members of Saddam Hussein’s military and intelligence forces boasted of helping transport weapons of mass destruction to Syria and Lebanon in the three months prior to Operation Iraqi Freedom.

Don Bordenkircher — who served two years as national director of prison and jail operations in Iraq– told WND that about 40 prisoners he spoke with “boasted of being involved in the transport of WMD warheads to Syria.

A smaller number of prisoners, he said, claimed “they knew the locations of the missile hulls buried in Iraq.”

Some of the inmates, Bordenkircher said, “wanted to trade their information for a release from prison and were amenable to showing the locations.”

The prisoners were members of the Iraqi military or civilians assigned to the Iraqi military, often stationed at munitions facilities, according to Bordenkircher. He said he was told the WMDs were shipped by truck into Syria, and some ended up in Lebanon’s Bekaa Valley.

Other Iraqi military personnel, including former top Saddam associates, have made the same claim.

In early 2006, Saddam’s No. 2 Air Force officer, Georges Sada, told the New York Sun Iraq’s WMDs were moved into Syria six weeks before the war started.

WND also reported in 2006 a former general and friend of Saddam who defected alleged WMDs were hidden in Syria and said the regime supported al-Qaida with intelligence, finances and munitions. Ali Ibrahim Al-Tikriti, the southern regional commander for Saddam’s militia in the late 1980s, said the regime had contingency plans established as far back as the 1980s in the event either Baghdad or Damascus was taken over.

Saddam knew the U.S. eventually would come for the weapons, Al-Tikriti said at the time, and had “wanted since he took power to embarrass the West, and this was the perfect opportunity to do so.” So he denied they existed and made sure they were moved into hiding, the former general said.

Among other claims, WND also reported a former U.S. federal agent and counter-terrorism specialist deployed to Iraq before the war said he waged a three-year, unsuccessful battle to get officials to search four sites where he believed the former Saddam regime buried weapons of mass destruction.

Bordenkircher said four of the Iraqi prisoners who separately offered to speak to the “right” people about Saddam’s alleged transport of WMD later became involved with U.S. and Iraqi intelligence agencies.

Some prisoners said the drivers, upon return from transporting the WMDs out of Iraq, discussed the movement. They said, according to Bordenkircher, the materials shipped out would return once Iraq got “a clean bill of health from the U.N., and then the program could be kick-started easily.”

Four of the prisoners — civilians attached to the Iraqi military — said they worked at the al-Muthana Chemical Industries site. They said the cargo included nitrogen mustard gas warheads for Tariq I and II missiles.

Bordenkircher said the stories of the military personnel and the civilians matched and did not contradict one another.

Bordenkircher also said prisoners confirmed al-Qaida had a presence in Iraq before Operation Iraqi Freedom began, specifically in Mosul and Kirkuk.

Iraqis under the command of Uday Hussein, one of Saddam Hussein’s sons, supported the al-Qaida elements in the country with training and providing safe harbor, they said.

Bordenkircher also was a senior adviser to South Vietnam’s correctional system during the war in Southeast Asia, from 1967-72. His task was to improve conditions for 80,000 civilian prisoners. The U.S. Department of Justice asked him to play a similar role in Iraq, sending him first to Baghdad’s infamous Abu Ghraib prison in Baghdad in March 2006 to shut it down.

Bordenkircher previously served as Marshall County sheriff of Moundsville, W.Va., and police chief and warden of the state penitentiary at Moundsville.

Hundreds of WMDs discovered in Iraq
http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=50746

Memo reportedly shows location of WMD
http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=50590

Saddam general: WMDs in Syria
http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=48827

New evidence on Saddam’s WMDs?http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=48249

Chance Phelps never should have been killed in Iraq. Too bad for him, and too bad for his family, that he died for Bush’s lies.

Semper Fi, dude…

You are a First Class Sonofabitch! It is damnable that you would use the honorable words Semper fi, in your mouth they are garbage!

My family have all served, my brother, nephew, grandson, late son and I all served in the Corps! We served America and the cause of liberty. Our soldiers (Army), Air Force, Navy and Marines set millions of Iraqi citizens free from the hands of a cruel, murderous, rapist dictator, a man that is now rotting in hell! You are a miserable bastard to say anything negative about this man’s life, the fine officer that took him home to serve at his final posting and the many great Americans that shed honest, heartfelt tears as he came home!

The only thing our military in Iraq has done is enrich the corrupt war-profiteers

The 9/11 truther Rugrat Reader hallucinates again! Free elections mean sh*t to Ruh-Roh Reader, who has “free elections” for brains!

We closed Saddam’s rape rooms and torture chambers, stopped his attempts at genocide and even restored much of the wetlands he destroyed. Ruh-Roh Reader is a moron of the first order.

Nah,he shouldn’t play in traffic, the car might miss him. He should go play with the terrorists he loves oh so much lol

Once a marine,always a marine. If you aren’t a marine anymore bb you were never a marine.

RR: You could have avoided it all, by just honoring him as a hero, a Marine; and the Officer that took him home and then left it at that, to decry Bush another day. It was pathetic and you should apologize for using this fine Marine’s story as an opportunity to attack Bush. He had nothing to do with Bush, he was just a fighting jarhead, a leatherneck, a devil dog that died with honor and he deserved your most sincere salute and nothing more!

I would have said nothing at all under this post, except I had to, to express my deep anger at what you did to this fine man and my brother Marine!

Y’all have no clue…

You’re the one disgracing himself. Clown.

Anyway, just got done watching the movie with the family. It was excellent, and not one bit of politics in it one way or the other.

Good stuff.

Rather than attack me, how about defend your position?

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The invasion and occupation of Iraq has nothing to do with Freedom and Democracy.

Maybe you want to tell that to all the Iraqis who have been voting in elections and choosing their own leaders.

You’re pathetic.

One has to admit that RR’s blog image gives off the stench of “poser”.
Mickey on February 22, 2009 at 04:42 pm

It actually smells a little like DINO

You have no right to keep using the Semper Fi statement when you show your self to be unfaithful to both the corp and a fellow Marine. The deceased chose for himself of his own free will to join the service knowing full well that military action anywhere the government says to go is involved and that the job of soldiers is to go places, kill people, probably get killed doing it. Has been since before recorded history.

You’re a complete idiot to enter thread and disparage the man’s memory by intimating that he was somehow not as competent as you, that he wasn’t intelligent enough to see the risks, and was somehow a victim of Bush. He was an adult human being and he chose for himself the path that led to his end.

Just as you are doing to lead yourself to yours. Do you think someone will come by when you are in the ground, to patronize you posthumously, to absolve you of responsibility for your choices as if they could? As if it would matter?

You idiot leftists… You just don’t get it. You will be held accountable for your choices and no matter how arrogant you get, no matter how delusional, you will not escape your part in causality. Your attempts to disconnect people from the power of self-determination will fail. Your attempts to escape the responsibility of your actions will fail. You will fail. Just as you have failed here to do anything more than anger people who’d give this man respect for dying in the course of his duty and make yourself look like a callous jerk.