You are one sick, stupid person Dino. Its real ballsy to shoot four people setting down in a restaurant doing paperwork. Just when I think you can’t sink any lower you start digging.

Dimbulb Dino: According to your “logic” if a seat belt ever failed, then we might as well do away with all seat belts since they don’t work every time!

Four powerful weapons wielded by four experienced marksmen failed
hey A$$wipe… Dino
This was an ambush. The first three were executed. The fourth cop was able to struggle long enough to draw his weapon, but was unable to survive the initial attack to do much good prior to dying.

Fullofcr@pitized says:

What is political about a criminal shooting a policeman??? Nothing.

Well, duh! The political aspect had to do with the politician who made his release possible. If you weren’t mind numbingly stupid ( and so jealous of me it makes your teeth hurt!), you might recognize that.

The rest of what you spew through your fecal stained teeth isn’t even worth rebutting!
Go back to the kiddie pool, Wankertized, and maybe no one will notice how your damp, yellow stained “boardies” got that way!

Wow, dino you are one sick dude.

Should I try car wrecks next? How about drownings?

Juvenile violation or no, he was already doing 48 years for five felonies. I think the case to be made for him as a juvenile offender was lost four felonies ago!

I couldn’t abide by Huckabee before this.

Although no one wants to make these killings political, if this guy is guilty and this is true, this is likely to do for Huckabee what Willie Horton did for Michael Dukakis. Say goodnight, Mr. Huckabee.

Well then, by your own definition you are a nobody, because you just politicized it, BEFORE the evidence is confirmed.

You just can’t resist, can ya?

And I don’t care really, watching you extremists turn on Huckabee is a laugh riot. The moderate conservatives will see just how radical and on the fringe you are when you go after this nice fella.

All this proves is guns kill. “Shocker.”

It is called situational awareness, military have it when on the battlefield or on the ship / plane. Police should have it at all times while in uniform, but apparently they felt safe. Their mistake yes, still extremely sad and in no way reflects on gun rights or police carrying weapons.

In Missouri we have places that actually teach conceal and carry courses and my instructor stresses to everyone situational awareness. You learn how to pay attention so you hopefully avoid situations where you would need to draw your weapon. However we also practice over the length of the course to make certain you CAN draw your weapon if needed in a timely manner, and are aware of the laws on where and how you can use it without getting in too much trouble.

Those who carry legally or own a weapon for personal protection can not be painted with the same brush as criminals who don’t care about the law anyway.

i will never vote for huckabee. bible thumper or not. he has shown only pc crap as governor of arkansas by pardoning a lot of fellons. i remeber when huckabee did this

Frontsight, my friend. And they are an advertizer on this here fine institution of free exchange,,,,of,,,well, this and that. You get the idea!

Toot? For many years the streets in major cities, and many small towns, in America have been low-grade combat zones. And there is very little in the ways of defense against random crazies.

I am wondering just how much local law enforcement knew about this “citizen”? Had he a rep locally for being a criminal, or was he fairly new to the area?

Funny, he came out and said he is NOT going to run in ’12. My, my, how the worm has turned.

The shootings have nothing to do with gun laws, the shooter was a convicted felon. There are already laws prohibiting him from posessing. The criminals will always get guns, all law abiding citizens should be able to carry anywhere, anytime.

When someone is sent to prison, they are there for a reason Punishment. This social loser is a habitual criminal that did not want to conform to civility. The blood is on Huckabee’s hands. The failure is not the states justice system, but the failure of Huckabee himself.

Turning on Huckabee? Wankertized: You are one of the village idiots that is always bleating that we conservatives never criticize Republicans. Now we criticize one and you start bleating something else! Why don’t you just admit that it is your own rabid partisanship that causes you to criticize us!

You left wing nutters crack me up!

Do you carry? no…then shut the phuck up.

I’m note (sic) wrong

Silly Dino! Even when you try to claim you’re not wrong, you get it wrong! You are a laugh riot, Din!

Don’t you ever get tired of being wrong, Dino?

There’s lots of accidental shootings, too. But they most often happen in the conservative areas so it’s a wash.

I don’t suppose you have any authoritative documentation to support this bit of hyperbolic nonsense, do you?

Didn’t think so!

Huckabe…Meh, I was never excited by him anyway *shrug*

DINO: If everyone else in that shop had a concealed weapon you can bet the guy wouldn’t have made it out the door after shooting them. And try to explain to me how the fact that those cops were carrying weapons led to them being shot please?

None of the officers even had the chance to pull a weapon. Shot from behind without warning. Cowardly, like you.

Fullofcr@pitized: No one is absolving the shooter or blaming Huckabee for the killings. That is the point we have made here and in the Fort Hood shooting, but you are just too mind numbingly frakkin’ stupid to understand simple English.

You moron.

Thanks for signing your work, Han-job! Now go take a long walk off a short pier.

I’m not the one who’s confused here, Din! That’s right to carry a…..gun…which they possess!
As far as the links to Mr. Lott’s work, I thought you were not such as helpless mewling infant as to be unable to use the Google. Start at his website and work your way out. I have work to do, rather than provide more information than you can comprehend and are philosophically opposed to accepting if you could understand it!

http://johnrlott.blogspot.com/

dinothefakehomo WANTS more crime, especially against gays and whites, as it wants more cops killed. It has told us this repeatedly.

Hey, dinothefakehomo has a readerblog post up calling for all security measures to be stripped from the White House and Congress because they don’t work. Go check it out, and hi-jack the thread, while you are at it. Some babes? Maybe some hunting pics?

Yes, and most car accidents happen to those who are driving.

In this case, Einstein, the “law-abiding” were not only ARMED, they were supposed expert marksmen.

“like Obama is a skilled orator”

Obama is a skilled orator like Christopher Reeve was a skilled flier.
SOME technological augmentation MAY have been involved in both cases.

Huckabee, like Obama is a skilled orator and very good at masking his true beliefs behind words that sound good, but when examined at best mean nothing, and at worst mean exactly the opposite of what it sounded like. If this story is true, and I have no reason to believe it is not, this is just another example of liberal/moderate soft-headedness as it regards the ability of the prison system to rehabilitate a hardened socio/psychopath. This will go down as Huckabee’s “Willie Horton” moment.

Well, it’s not cowardice, that’s for sure.

I’m note wrong. Four powerful weapons wielded by four experienced marksmen failed to stop the execution of even ONE of them. Not ONE.

So much for your gun fascination.

Don’t confuse gun possession with right-to-carry. I know how you like to cloud issues.

The shooter was a coward? Without condoning what he did, let’s just say that blowing away four cops is pretty ballsy.

Oh, and reagan also pardoned people who later committed crimes.

Hanitary Napkin just wishes he posted the story first as an attack on Huckabee, us doing it first means he is left without talking points.

Dino, if you want to make the case that arming citizens doesn’t prevent crime, you’re going to need to deal with the reality that almost all mass killings–Columbine, Red Lake, Fort Hood, etc..–occur in places where the law abiding are disarmed.

Put differently, when was the last mass killing at a gun range?

My mistake, I’m asking Dino to deal with reality.

“let’s just say that blowing away four cops is pretty ballsy.”

How you must envy such courage, eh?

Type “accidental shootings” into Google.

Carry laws don’t work either if 4 armed police officers could be “ambushed” at a coffee house.

“Carry laws don’t work either if 4 armed police officers could be “ambushed” at a coffee house.”

Wow. Let’s see if I can follow this … this “logic.”
Carry laws, despite being statistically proven to reduce violent crime, “don’t work” because … wait, now … because police officers (not private citizens) (and not carrying concealed) (in short, NOT even slightly relevant) can get ambushed, by a “pretty ballsy” felon packing an ILLEGALLY OWNED weapon (i.e. also NOT even slightly relevant).
Fabulous. I can only marvel at reasoning skills like this.
Let me add it to the lexicon of Dino’s Insights:
Carry laws fail to keep cops from getting ambushed, therefore they don’t work.
Capital punishment fails to bring dead cops back to life, therefore it doesn’t work.
hmmm… pretty short list there, let me pad it out a bit …
Traffic laws fail to prevent burglary, therefore they don’t work.
Dental hygiene fails to prevent hurricanes, therefore it doesn’t work.
Yeah, I think I’m getting the hang of this … pretty soon I’ll be able to reason Just Like Dino!

“Related question for those who advocate the right to carry concealed weapons:”

Perfect answer for those who advocate disarming the ordinary citizen:
Find the cities and states that have enacted concealed-carry laws.
Then look up the rates of violent crime BEFORE and AFTER the passage of those laws.
Then explain away the consistent, dramatic DROP in the levels of those crimes.
Or, in your case, explain away your failure to even look it up.
Because, hey, those hypotheticals are working so well for you, aren’t they?

While at the dump, Stanley overheard a meeting of corrupt army officials promising several foreign representatives large amounts of contraband. Stanley poses as one of the foreigners, and talks with Colonel Neidermeyer (Mark Metcalf), the leader of the corrupt officers. Neidermeyer is convinced that Stanley is a secret agent, but he gives Stanley his car and cell phone and sends him off on good terms. Shortly afterward, he tells Lieutenant Neal (Matt Keeslar), one of his subordinate assassins, to kill him.

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