Surprise: Obama Delaying Release Of New Budget Numbers Until After His Deadline For Gov. Health Care

Proof • July 20, 2009

Because he’s afraid the details about flagging economic growth, skyrocketing unemployment and rampant deficits might just make it difficult to pass a brand new, terribly expensive government health care program.

WASHINGTON (AP) – The White House is being forced to acknowledge the wide gap between its once-upbeat predictions about the economy and today’s bleak landscape.
The administration’s annual midsummer budget update is sure to show higher deficits and unemployment and slower growth than projected in President Barack Obama’s budget in February and update in May, and that could complicate his efforts to get his signature health care and global-warming proposals through Congress.
The release of the update – usually scheduled for mid-July – has been put off until the middle of next month, giving rise to speculation the White House is delaying the bad news at least until Congress leaves town on its August 7 summer recess.
The administration is pressing for votes before then on its $1 trillion health care initiative, which lawmakers are arguing over how to finance.

This seems to be another chapter in the on-going efforts to apply their “let’s pretend it isn’t happening” solution to the deficit problems they’ve created. Not at all unlike earlier news about Democrats fixing the deficit their plans for government health care creates by simply pretending as though the deficit spending doesn’t actually exist. Something they’ll accomplish, if given the chance, by implementing budgeting rules which say the spending doesn’t count against the deficit.
In summary, Obama and the Democrats think the American public is stupid. They hope to keep us from being aware of what’s going on with the budget, and of the massive deficits their plan for health care would create, by hiding them from our view with bureaucratic delays and accounting tricks.

Tags: Asshats, Domestic Issues, Politics

http://Array 10ksnooker

The entire US government has become a never ending shuck and jive act — endless circle of lies.
SigFan

In summary, Obama and the Democrats think the American public is stupid.

Because a high percentage of them are. Some are willfully stupid, as evidenced by some of our regular left-leaners here, others are ignorant of their ignorance, but no matter how you slice it:

Stupid is as stupid does. And you can’t cure stupid.

So much for that most open, ethical, honest thing. These guys are more crooked than my Sicilian grandfather, and that takes one heck of a lot of effort.
http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/america_is_back/#c397018 DINO

1. The deficits were created initially by irresponsible tax cuts bush made while trying to fund two expensive wars. SInce then the deficits have been made worse by the economic collapse which even a fifth grader knows has the effect of greatly reducing tax revenues.

2. You don’t shut down the government and halt any progress because the republicans broke the bank. Reforming health care will benefit all of us down the road.

3. People whose relatives receive government help to maintain their health in nursing homes should really STFU about government health care spending.
robert108

1. The deficits were created initially by irresponsible tax cuts…

Two lies here by uneducated little dino: One, revenues increased after the tax rate cuts, so they had the opposite effect from creating any deficit; Two, tax rate cuts are not “irresponsible”; it’s excessive taxation by greedy govt that is irresponsible.
Bat One

The deficits were created initially by irresponsible tax cuts…

Swish,

If you weren’t so hopelessly ignorant of fiscal matters, I’d insist on some sort of proof to back up this idiocy. But we both know you can’t provide it, don’t we?

The Bush capital gains tax rate cut took effect in 2003, so unless you can show what the revenue stream from that tax would have been in, say… 2006, without that rate reduction, all you’re really doing here is blowing smoke up your own ass!
http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/america_is_back/#c397018 DINO

Bush pushed through two of the largest tax cuts in American history. That was while trying to fund two expensive wars, something never done before.

The effects of those tax cuts along with the reduced revenues due to the republican-led economic meltdown, has created our present situation.
pparets

Dino… there were NO reduced revenues during the Bush years!

If you’re going to make such outrageous claims, at least have THE FACTS to back you up.
http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/america_is_back/#c397018 DINO

Increasing revenues don’t mean enough revenues were created to service the spending needs of a growing economy.

It is the general consensus of most economists that the bush tax cuts led to the deficits.
Bat One

So, Swish… what was the revenue from the capital gains tax in 2006, and what would it have been without the 2003 Bush capital gains tax rate cut?

Hmmm?

Where is that intellectual superiority… that “edge” you were talking about just a moment ago? Got anything real to back up the bullshit?

Its a simple enough question really. How much would have been taken in without the cut, how much actually was taken in, and whatever the difference was should prove your point that the cut created a deficit, right?

So what’s the answer?
http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/america_is_back/#c397018 DINO

The bush tax cuts are largely responsible for the deficits we have today.
robert108

…the spending needs of a growing economy.

Marxist moron little dino confuses the greedy govt with “the economy”. The real economy requires very little govt spending, as it pretty much runs itself much better without the interference. Only greedy govt requires ever more of our tax money. Remember, govt is an expense to the taxpayers, who produce all the wealth in this country. The govt produces nothing but red ink.
Again, tax rate cuts produce more revenue to the Treasury, and so are not recessionary in any way. It’s always the spending, stupid!
BTW, JFK engineered the largest tax rate reduction in our history. It also increased revenues to the Treasury.
pparets

Feel free to move the goalposts, Dino, but this is what you said ….

the reduced revenues

OK, so now we agree… there were NO reduced revenues under the Bush Administration.
robert108

Little dino is entirely unable to make any cause and effect arguments to back up any of his claims. He simply shouts the propaganda fed to him by his handlers. He’s an ignorant mouthpiece.
Bat One

The bush tax cuts are largely responsible for the deficits we have today.

Sorry, Swish, but as someone once wrote,

Just because you say it, that doesn’t make it so.

Get back to us when you can offer some proof of your assertions. Until you can say what the revenues would have been without those tax RATE cuts, you’re just flopping around like a worm on a hook.
robert108

Of course, he could always make an argument showing the chain of cause and effect starting with tax rate cuts and ending in deficits, if such an argument were possible.
Bat One

R108,

Dino could only do as you suggest IF he was willing to acknowledge that a deficit (or a surplus, for that matter) is the result of two separate factors, revenues collected and expenditures. But like most others on the Left, Dino contents himself to ignore the expenditure side of the ledger, pretending instead that the only government expenditures that should be restricted are those related to national defense.

If, like Dino, a person willfully ignores the spending side, then its hard to think of him as knowing what the hell he’s talking about.
robert108

Bat: IMO, it’s worse than that. I don’t think the govt has any “right” to any portion of our earnings, and should have to demonstrate a Constitutional need for every dollar it wants to spend. Your analysis is correct for a private business, but not for govt, which is supposed to serve the private sector.
Bat One

I don’t think the govt has any “right” to any portion of our earnings…

Point well taken.

Of course your use of quotations marks makes your point for you. Government has no rights. Nor does any other group. Only individuals have rights.
robert108

All too true, Bat, but that doesn’t stop collectivists like Obama and all the leftie squealers from trying to ascribe rights to the govt, especially the right to tell us what to do.
TomTom

Obama could care less what he tells the american public…He won and he thinks he can trash our constitution. The worthless prick isn’t even an American.
sayanything-2819

3. People whose relatives receive government help to maintain their health in nursing homes should really STFU about government health care spending.

Dino, you constantly say this crap, and believe me it is crap. The truth is that those who pay the majority of the freight for government services don’t use nearly the same amount as the lower income citizens who pay nothing. The truth is that people want to outsource their responsibilities to the government, wanting to use the money they earn for the non essential things they desire, not need.

The government schools has indoctrinated the last two generations in the thinking that these responsibilities are the government’s and not an individual’s.

You deliberately lie when you claim that conservatives want all the services but none of the responsibility for payment. I gladly pay for those things the government is called to do in the constitution.

The “general welfare” clause has been used as the crack in the dike to justify unprecedented government seizure of private assets which in reality has not contributed to the general welfare of this country and its citizens. Instead it has been a huge detriment.

I know you are too whatever, angry or stupid, to learn the truth. I write this not for you, but for any lurkers who may think you know what the hell you are talking about.

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