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Monday, April 30, 2007

Supreme Court Refuses To Hear Legal Challenge To Military Commissions For Gitmo Detainees

This was the proper course of action for the high court.

WASHINGTON - The Supreme Court on Monday refused to hear the case of two Guantanamo Bay prisoners who want to challenge the legality of military commissions.

Salim Ahmed Hamdan and Omar Khadr face commission trials — Hamdan for acting as a driver and bodyguard for
Osama bin Laden, and Khadr for throwing a grenade that killed a U.S. Green Beret soldier.

Justices David Souter, Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Stephen Breyer would have granted the request to hear the case, the court said in turning it down. It takes four votes, though, to hear a case.

The court’s action follows its April 2 decision not to step into related aspects of the legal battle regarding other Guantanamo Bay detainees. The issue there is whether the prisoners may go to federal court to challenge their confinement.

To challenge the legality of the military commissions set up by the President and approved of by Congress with the Military Commissions Act is to challenge the idea that Congress sets the rules for the military, establishes our federal courts outside of the Supreme Court and defines the jurisdiction of those courts.  Unfortunately, Congress does have all of those powers explicitly assigned to it in the Constitution.

Some people may not like the Military Commissions Act as policy.  They may feel that it isn’t the proper way to handle detainees in the war on terror, but to claim that it is somehow unconstitutional is absurd on it’s very face.

Comments

What we need a hearing about is why we haven’t started executing these assholes already.  I am in full agreement that we need to empty GITMO and close it down… as soon as we give these pricks their tribunal and carry out their swift execution.

Justin B. on April 30, 2007 at 02:34 pm

Since February, the Pentagon has notified about 85 inmates or their attorneys that they are eligible to leave after being cleared by military review panels.

Saudi Arabia is offering counseling, financial aid and even matchmaking to pull young militants away from terrorism.

To keep the former detainees from deep-pocketed militant recruiters, Saudi officials have treated them to perks that have included new cars, resort stays, job placement and help in finding brides. They’ve also exposed them to moderate clerics and reminded them of Islam’s restrictive rules for waging holy war, or jihad.

2,000 have participated in the program since its inception in 2004.

Khadr was 15 when captured, they sure as hell won’t execute him.

WOOF on April 30, 2007 at 03:35 pm

Gosh, if the Saudis just start giving them democracy, whiskey and sexy, they might just turn out to be New York Yankees fans.

Ken McCracken on April 30, 2007 at 04:31 pm

Now if they will only quash New London V Kelo I would actually think that pack of lawyerscum gave a shit about America.


Una Salus Victus Nullam Sperare Salutem

2Hotel9 on April 30, 2007 at 04:50 pm

Justin: Why close down Guantanamo Bay Naval Base? Based on what military and/or political justification?


No matter the age or state of health, for a military man it is always glorious to tilt at windmills, rescue a fair Dulcinea and be a gallant knight in armor in a glorious cause.

Neiman on April 30, 2007 at 06:33 pm

If you execute all the prisoners, you most certainly can close down the holding facility.  Not the naval base.  Two different things.

Why are we continuing to keep alive combatants that fought without uniforms?  These folks are entitled to be shot on sight as illegal combatants.  Their intel is now pushing 5 years old and if we haven’t gotten them to talk so far, why not start purging them and sending them to meet their virgins.

That is all I am saying.

Justin B. on April 30, 2007 at 09:13 pm

Hang them by their necks till they are dead, dead, dead. Then turn Gitmo into a resort. THAT would piss off Fidel and his followers in the Democrat Party.


Una Salus Victus Nullam Sperare Salutem

2Hotel9 on May 1, 2007 at 03:46 am
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Why are we continuing to keep alive combatants that fought without uniforms?  These folks are entitled to be shot on sight as illegal combatants.  Their intel is now pushing 5 years old and if we haven’t gotten them to talk so far, why not start purging them and sending them to meet their virgins.

Once we capture illegal enemy combatants we are not entitled to just execute them.

Hawk on May 1, 2007 at 11:28 am

After a tribunal we sure as hell are.  The delays in holding tribunals are hurting our effectiveness.  I would much prefer if Al Qaeda knew that there would be swift justice.

Justin B. on May 1, 2007 at 11:37 am

Justin,

We have more than enough trouble executing our own domestic serial child molesters and thrill killers.

Why would expect things to be any different merely because we’re talking about men whose fondest goal life is to kill Americans, particularly Jews, and destroy Western civilization?  Where IS your sense of compassion?

2H9,

It occurs to me, if we are going to hang them, there’s this bridge in the city of Fallujah that would be more than appropriate.


“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Bat One on May 1, 2007 at 12:28 pm

Send them by ship to Basra, them march them to Fallujah, bareheaded and in chains.

hawk, they are Brigands/Bandits and are afforded no rights beyond execution by the Geneva Accords. By not executing them where taken we have violated the Geneva Accords ourselves. What should our punishment be?


Una Salus Victus Nullam Sperare Salutem

2Hotel9 on May 1, 2007 at 01:11 pm
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