Supreme Court Refuses To Hear Lawsuit Blaming Gun Companies For Shooting Deaths

• March 10, 2009

The State of New York’s lawsuit against the gun companies got shot down by the Supreme Court today, and rightfully so.

WASHINGTON — New York City’s nine-year lawsuit accusing gun makers of flooding illicit markets with their firearms came to an end on Monday, when the United States Supreme Court refused to consider a lower court’s dismissal of the case.
Without comment, the justices decided not to review a ruling by a three-judge panel of the United States Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit, which declared on April 30 that federal law protected the manufacturers from such suits.
The appeals court had overturned a decision by Judge Jack B. Weinstein of Federal District Court in Brooklyn, who ruled in 2005 that the suit could proceed despite protests by gun makers like Beretta U.S.A., Browning Arms, Colt Manufacturing, Glock and Smith & Wesson. The gun companies had complained that a federal law passed just two months earlier shielded them from such suits.

The idea that gun manufacturers are somehow to blame for gun deaths is about as dumb as thinking McDonald’s is responsible for a woman spilling coffee on herself. Or that car companies are responsible for drunk drivers. Or that Burger King is to blame for their customers being fat.
I understand the desire to stop violent crime. I am not pro-violent crime by any stretch of the imagination. But if you want to address violent crime you must address what actually causes it, and that is violent and criminally-minded people motivated by a myriad of social reasons, economic reasons and sometimes just out-and-out mental disorders.
In short, people commit crimes. Not guns.
But then, it seems more and more that we have a problem with personal responsibility in this country. Nobody wants to be at fault. Everyone wants to be the victim.

Tags: Asshats, Domestic Issues, Guns, Politics

http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/america_is_back/#c397018 DINO

Actually, the woman’s labia was severely burned.

The McDonald’s had been warned about serving the coffee too hot. In a story in Newsweek years ago the republican judge overseeing the case said that people didn’t realize what the case was about or the facts behind the decision.

But it’s typical of conservatives to side with the corporation over the individual. It follows their pattern of always siding with the more powerful entity in any and all disputes. Corporation over individual, management over union, school board over teachers, police over the accused. No thought is given to the facts, they instinctively take the side that has the besty chance of winning. It typifies the lazy, intellect-free, conservative mindset.
Wing Chun Geologist

In short, people commit crimes. Not guns.

Yes, but MS-13 gang members don’t have deep pockets.
bill-tb

It’s common knowledge that you cannot be rational and liberal at the same time. It’s just that liberals these days they test the theory each day, and sadly come up with the same answer.
Bill

Common sense rules…finally. Hopefully this nonsense will not come up again. But, count on liberals coming back like flies on stink.
mallard

Well I guess I just figured that most people would be smart enough to realize that HMMMMM..hot coffee…prob gonna be hot…shoudn’t dump it on myself…just another showing of people not having accountability for themselves.
raj58045

But it’s typical of conservatives to side with the corporation over the individual. It follows their pattern of always siding with the more powerful entity in any and all disputes. Corporation over individual, management over union, school board over teachers, police over the accused. No thought is given to the facts, they instinctively take the side that has the besty chance of winning. It typifies the lazy, intellect-free, conservative mindset.

Dino, how are you even able to use a computer? Is someone doing all the typing and clicking while you watch and spout off stupidity? If someone is so totally ignorant that they don’t understand that coffee is hot, then they deserve anything that happens to them. That’s not siding with anyone, it’s just common sense. Have someone tell you what common sense is, I’m sure you have no clue.
carrick

Lioncourt:

McDonald’s coffee machine was broken. McDonald’s [knew] the coffee was dangerous. McDonald’s [knew] that the temperature of the coffee far exceeded the company guidelines. The coffee burned the plaintiff to the bone.

LMAO?

What did she get? A defective Orange Lavaburst drinks they serve to children?

Or maybe the clerk misheard her and thought she ordered a Mocha Lava drink?

Cause the only way that was going to burn to the bone is if it were molten rock.

LOLOLOL
thejackle

But it’s typical of conservatives to side with the corporation over the individual.

Hey idiot, is your computer a brand name, are your clothes brand name, is everything in your house brand name? If anything in your house is brand name you are siding with a corporation over an individual. In order to not do that everything that you buy would have to be from some one who built it them selves.
http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/america_is_back/#c397018 DINO

He may have been exaggerating. But the facts of the case are much different that the popular culture version.
mallard

There should never been a lawsuit in the first place…its pathetic…nobody can take responsibility for themselves…gunmakers make guns, oh my god its the end of the world! Good lord look around car makers and alcohol makers are bad people too…ummmmm yeah an individual make choices to do what they want with whatever they have access to.
http://www.sayanythingblog.com/ electnixon

Much as we suffered under Clinton’s appointees, we are now benefiting from Bush’s.
docdave

Unfortunately the anti-gun bastards won’t quit trying to find someway to limit our 2nd amendment rights.
http://ndgoon.blogspot.com/ goon

Good another loss for anti-gun folks.
http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/entry/homosexuality_is_wrong_-_a_compendium move_zig

Lie-in-Court, for being as educated and experienced as he alleges he is (and I doubt it) manages to consistently come down squarely on the side of Wrong.

Oh yeah, and there is that ‘new’ versus ‘knew’ thing, (perhaps something they teach at Law School for the Galactically Stupid)

Either he genuinely fails to understand the concept that society should not have to indirectly pay the costs of those who assume a risk or do something so foolish as to be outside the zone of foreseeable risk, or, he deliberately misstates the point and uses the mischaracterization as a basis for attack.

The first is plain foolish, the second, intellectually dishonest.

Then again, there is the age-old question whether a 70-year-old crotch is worth several million dollars?
http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ proof_positive

McDonald’s coffee machine was broken. McDonald’s new (sic) the coffee was dangerous. McDonald’s new (sic) that the temperature of the coffee far exceeded the company guidelines. The coffee burned the plaintiff to the bone. There was nothing wrong with this lawsuit, in fact it was justice. Why don’t you learn what the fuck you are talking about.

To the bone??? Do you mean to say that the coffee seared the flesh clean off her legs? And you have the unmitigated gall to tell anyone else to learn WTF they’re talking about??? Sheesh!
BTW, the word is “knew”, genius! And in case you didn’t know, it’s probably not a good idea to drive with a cup of coffee between your legs!
carrick

Mickey:

Another blow for the messiah.

Great idea for a bumper sticker, Mickey.

Somebody give Obama a blow job so we can impeach him.
http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/america_is_back/#c397018 DINO

That’s about all you assholes have left. The hope of blackmailing another man over his sex life.

As low as men can go, republicans have been there.
http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ proof_positive

But it’s typical of conservatives to side with the corporation over the individual

Do I have to “side with a corporation” whenever I point out the gross ignorance of a liberal? Do you have any x-rays of the labial “bones” that Lyingcourt described?
Lioncourt

McDonald’s is responsible for a woman spilling coffee on herself.

McDonald’s coffee machine was broken. McDonald’s new the coffee was dangerous. McDonald’s new that the temperature of the coffee far exceeded the company guidelines. The coffee burned the plaintiff to the bone. There was nothing wrong with this lawsuit, in fact it was justice. Why don’t you learn what the fuck you are talking about.
http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/entry/homosexuality_is_wrong_-_a_compendium move_zig

Perhaps it’s apparent to some, but many are completely oblivious to the fact that for a politician or an officer of the Court to attack the Right to Keep and Bear Arms is for them to breach their oath to uphold and defend the Constitution from all enemies, foreign and domestic.

The Oath of Office has slight variations, depending upon what you do for government, but all of them entail defending the Constitution.

The Second Amendment is the Constitution.

For without the teeth of the Second Amendment, all the other rights can be swept away in the blink of an eye. It is only the threat of an armed citizenry that serves as an ultimate check and balance against tyranny.

I say the Second Amendment is. in order of importance, the first amendment. It is America’s First Freedom, the one right that protects all of the others. Among freedom of speech, of the press, of religion, of assembly, of redress of grievances, it is the first among equals. It alone offers the absolute capacity to live without fear. The right to keep and bear arms is the one right that allows “rights” to exist at all.

– Charlton Heston

That was the original intent and design of the Constitution.

Those who attack the Right to Keep and Bear Arms have breached their oaths and have set themselves against the Constitution, thus have become the domestic enemy

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Buy ammo gang.

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Molon labe, motherfucker.
carrick

Dino:

He may have been exaggerating. But the facts of the case are much different that the popular culture version.

The issue here Dino is that conservatives accept individual responsibility for their actions. If I hold a cup of coffee and burn myself, I’m not going to sue somebody over it.

Liberals assume collective responsibility for their actions. She knew the coffee was hot when she picked up the cup. Unless she were a child she should be able to understand the risks inherent in that.

Morally, you liberals still are children. You’re always looking for Daddy to rescue you from your actions.

That’s about all you assholes have left. The hope of blackmailing another man over his sex life.

Of course it was funny on the View when it was a bumper sticker saying “Somebody give Bush a blow job so we can impeach him.” Switch it to “Obama” and Dino starts crying.

LMAO.
http://sayanythingblog.com/ likwidshoe

It follows their pattern of always siding with the more powerful entity in any and all disputes.

Says the big government supporter.

It typifies the lazy, intellect-free, conservative mindset.

Says the guy who also said this,

No, seriously, I HATE this country and think it should disappear. No more united states. It’s the cause of most of the world’s problems. It’s like a cancer.

Just split it up and let it lose its power. Done. Finished.

This America hater supports Obama and hates individual freedom, contrary to his lies above.
Bat One

Bill, I’m not sure what it says about our use of the language, but the two least common things in life are common courtesy and common sense.
http://www.landau.ws/ Paddy Landau

Cool, so I’ll go buy a hammer, hit myself on the head, and sue the hammer company for not putting on a warning label, “Warning: Do Not Hit People With This”. It must be the hammer company’s fault!
Mickey

Another blow for the messiah.

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