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Cute yes, $5000 an hour?  No.

Her her parents are proud.

Bill,

From her myspace bio linked to over at Drudge, her parents could likely care less.

$5K an hour probably isn’t much for someone like Spitzer, however even if I had his money I think I could find better uses for it.

He’s not only an over compensator, he has a pathological fear of growing old!

however even if I had his money I think I could find better uses for it.

Let me guess; “for the children?”

if I had his money I think I could find better uses for it.

Spoken like a true liberal! (Or socialist!)

Those who think the party or the country, will be “taught a lesson” by handing the levers of power over to the liberals will learn a lesson, but it will be at the expense of our country and her liberties. And there are no guarantees that the party or the country will come out stronger, more conservative or better positioned to win elections against the incumbent liberals.

OK, truthfully? Sure, she’s hot and but I was expecting a whole lot more at 6 grand a romp

Remember that prices ranged from $1300 to $5900 an hour.  I have not heard where she fell in the price range.  I am thinking that given my sexual prowess, I should be able to get an approximately $1200 rebate on the $1300 an hour hooker for unused time.  That makes the price even more outrageous for me:

The equivalent of approximately $15,000-$60,000 an hour for the five minutes of sex, or the idea of me paying some 22 year old wash out actress/model $1300-5900 an hour for 55 minutes of conversation.

She’s a fine looking woman.  I like Brunettes.

the AVATAR
Old Tigers are more dangerous when they believe this could be their last hunt.

From , “The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen”
Old tigers, sensing the end,
they’re at their most fierce. 
And they go down fighting.

Maybe next time puddin

I am thinking that given my sexual prowess, I should be able to get an approximately $1200 rebate on the $1300

Hey look.  All the mock morall outrage has turned into more “comical” abuse of the young victim.  Nice.

Hypocrites.

Certainly we can tell how much you really care for the pain she has lived through and the pain she is going through. 

Please continue with this charade.  It suits you well.

Ah, sannitized, the racebaitingpovertypimp Democrat, wants whores to be treated with dignity and respect. Perhaps she should have not been a whore, then she would get treated with dignity and respect. Well, Americans would treat her with dignity and respect. Racebaitingpovertypimp Democrats, like you, sannitized, would crap all over her because she chose to be a student, or work in a normal job, or get married and raise children. You racebaitingpovertypimp Democrat always shit all over anyone who does not crawl and beg your forbearance.

Una Salus Victus Nullam Sperare Salutem

She’s a very pretty whore.

What a shame that she has made herself into damaged goods. A victim of herself and worthy of no pity.

Certainly we can tell how much you really care for the pain she has lived through and the pain she is going through.

H,

Oh, pleeeze!

Apparently, you didn’t get the memo.  Prostitution is regarded now as a victimless crime.  “Kristin” chose to identify herself as a sexual plaything for hire, and at a fairly substantial price.  She is hardly the victim that, say, a Monica Lewinsky was.

“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Actually, 2H9, she didn’t make herself into damaged goods.  The articles coming out claim that she was abused as a child, was the product of a broken home, and had been on her own since 17.

Did she make herself into damaged goods, or did the adults around her when she was a child do so?  While there is certainly a bit of both, I would argue the latter factor is more important here.

Ah, sannitized, the racebaitingpovertypimp Democrat, wants whores to be treated with dignity and respect.

If you had the ability to read 2, you would see that my point was that a few posts back half of you were criticizing Spitzer for victimizing her. 

While I was suggesting something different I noticed quite a few of you phonies pretending to care for her feelings.  I knew it was mock outrage and this post proves it.

Where is HG in all of this.  I certainly would like to see him harass you phonies for your insults of what he says is a victim.

Democrats, like you, sannitized, would crap all over her because she chose to be a student, or work in a normal job, or get married and raise children.

That is the exact opposite argument I made over in Pilgrims post about the matter.  I delivered a powerful message that you phonies did the same thing to Hillary, and then provided evidence about her accomplishments, but you all still give her the same scorn you give a common whore.

You are all phonies (or at least a few).  You have no principles.  I would like to see some of you be a bit more principled and honest.

Apparently, you didn’t get the memo.  Prostitution is regarded now as a victimless crime.  “Kristin” chose to identify herself as a sexual plaything for hire, and at a fairly substantial price.  She is hardly the victim that, say, a Monica Lewinsky was.

Well then, why didn’t you offer this point of view when your counterparts were exhibiting all the mock outrage over Spitzers abuse of the women while it was happening?

Go ahead, explain to Pilgrim why he is a phony.  I will be looking forward to that.

Hey look.  All the mock morall outrage has turned into more “comical” abuse of the young victim.  Nice.
Hypocrites.
Certainly we can tell how much you really care for the pain she has lived through and the pain she is going through. 

While I’m sure she’s damaged goods, that doesn’t mean I feel sympathy for the choices she’s made in life. At 6000 a pop, she’s clean (most hookers can’t say that), she’s well treated (for the job), and well paid.

It’s a two way street. If people expect us to accept their life choices, then they don’t get to use those life choices as a sob story. She chose to be a (high price) prostitute, and has gotten not only money, but now fame, for doing so. And yet you’re sitting here calling everyone names for discussing the merits of her job and her.

Yawn.

Bike Bubba - Actually, 2H9...

Wrong dude.

...she didn’t make herself into damaged goods.

I don’t think anybody else whored around for her. She did it all by herself.

The articles coming out claim that she was abused as a child, was the product of a broken home, and had been on her own since 17.

What makes her damaged goods, to my eyes as a single young guy looking for a good woman, is the whoring around. The fact that she may have suffered from less than fortunate circumstances is just life. If anything, such an upbringing can make her stronger. I’ve met such women.

On the contrast, her prostitution shows us where her chosen and acted upon morals lie. That’s what makes her damaged goods. I wouldn’t have used such a crude term for her childhood upbringing.

I don’t know. I’m of the opinion that a girl gets a little bit uglier with each new guy that she sleeps with. A lot of girls hit their double-digits before they even leave their teens. Those girls are just plain ugly; and it doesn’t matter how much physical beauty they may have. Something is lost and you can see it in their eyes. The sad part is that they’ve willfully and so easily given it away. This makes them cheap, as well.

Well then, why didn’t you offer this point of view when your counterparts were exhibiting all the mock outrage over Spitzers abuse of the women while it was happening?

H,

Ingrate!!!  Yesterday I was quite nearly fulsome in my assessment of your intelligence, despite mounting evidence to the contrary, and this is how you repay my generosity?  Phooey!

Apparently you are no better as recognizing curveballs than you are at throwing them.  You’ve taken the typical liberal side of this argument, defending “Kristen” against the moral outrage of your opponents on/in the Right… even going so far as to identify her as a “victim”.  Clearly, for those of us who recognize the reality of consequences, that argument is nonsense.  I was merely reminding you and everyone else of the irony, since it is those on the Left who are constantly braying that prostitution is a “victimless” crime… an irony you ought to have expected.

“Kristen” is what she is because she chose that profession.  And by all accounts, she is successful, and handsomely rewarded accordingly.  To cast her as a victim insults both her and the English language.

“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Lik, agreed that playing the whore DOES destroy a woman, whether she does it for pay or not, and that at some level, she must “sign up” for it. 

All I’m saying is that one of the big reasons she was willing to “sign up” for this--and that countless equally attractive women are not--is that she was abused and from a broken home, and that the others were not.

Put differently, it is mostly “pre-broken” women who select the further breakage of prostitution.

Ingrate!!!  Yesterday I was quite nearly fulsome in my assessment of your intelligence, despite mounting evidence to the contrary, and this is how you repay my generosity?  Phooey!

Ohh...really?  Sorry Bat.  I didn’t see it.  Which post was that?  There are about 10 posts on this issue.  And thanks if you defended me in some way.

You’ve taken the typical liberal side of this argument, defending “Kristen” against the moral outrage of your opponents on/in the Right… even going so far as to identify her as a “victim”. [/quote

Thats not true.  I have made the same argument you have, only I am open to the fact that at one time she had been victimized.  But at some point you have to take personal responsibility and rise above your past to become a product of your own character.

Re-read what I just said Bat.

If you had the ability to read 2, you would see that my point was that a few posts back half of you were criticizing Spitzer for victimizing her.

While I was suggesting something different I noticed quite a few of you phonies pretending to care for her feelings.

“Kristen” is what she is because she chose that profession.  And by all accounts, she is successful, and handsomely rewarded accordingly.  To cast her as a victim insults both her and the English language.

You and I are on the same page Bat.  However, now knowing her age, I would feel much better about my position if she were a little older. 

She might not have had enough life experience to rise above this, if she so desires.

All I’m saying is that one of the big reasons she was willing to “sign up” for this--and that countless equally attractive women are not--is that she was abused and from a broken home, and that the others were not.

Put differently, it is mostly “pre-broken” women who select the further breakage of prostitution.

I fail to differentiate between having sex with men for money and dancing naked for men for money.  Basically, being a “dancer” is simply being a hooker without insertion, and most dancers are willing to take on some after party action on occassion.

Why do we suddenly give a shit about her personal tragedies in life?  Should we all the sudden view her as a victim?  The statistics on sexual abuse are astounding.  One in four women will be raped or sexually abused in their lifetime.  While I understand that being an abuse victim may make you more likely to become a drug addict or a prostitute or a dancer, I refuse to be hooked into the victim mentality.  These women have freedom of choice to choose their actions.  Quite different from a 12 year old in the Phillipines that is sold into sex slavery by his/her parents.  Or an illegal immigrant smuggled into the US and held by the coyotes in a sex harem and afraid to escape because she/he does not speak the language, has no friends or relatives, and is scared shitless of the organized crime group that is holding her.

Let’s not start feeling sorry for her.  She made very good money by providing sexual favors and companionship to wealthy men.  She was not some two dollar hooker giving blow jobs in an alley for crack money.  The Democrat Party and Liberals have convinced themselves that women should be free to use their vaginas for their own benefit and enjoyment, though they stop short of saying “for profit”.  Strip clubs should be allowed.  Sex shops allowed.  Porn sites allowed.  Unregulated. 

If Kristen was “black”, she could claim to be an innocent victim of rich white men wanting a ghetto toy.  I bet JEsse Jackson would show up with a scholarship like he did for the skanktastic Duke slut.  She probably had a bad homelife as a kid too.  Let’s give them both a free pass for their behavior.

I also fail to differentiate in many areas between the ordinary stripper who gets men “dressed up with no place to go” and the prostitute.  I just cannot condone allowing these women to be further victimized in the strip club and/or the brothel.

And porn?  Same basic thing.  Overlapping classes, same basic principle.

Are these women responsible for what they do?  Yup, and so are the men who patronize them.  And so are we as a society if we don’t take steps to end the sex trade.

Are these women responsible for what they do?  Yup, and so are the men who patronize them.  And so are we as a society if we don’t take steps to end the sex trade.

I agree with the first two points.  The last one, I disagree about.  It is my belief that I am completely in control of what businesses I patronize.  There is a market for these services and that is why they exist.  Just like there is a market for illegal drugs.  The left believes Walmart is more evil than the sex or the drug trade.

The answer is not simply to target the people who supply a service with law enforcement.  It is to target the people that patronize the service by humiliating and fining them.  Public scorn goes a long way.  And furthermore, add to that scorn by doing PSA ads that highlight how effed up the lives of strippers and hookers and drug addicts are.  This is why I despise Howard Stern.  His entire schtick is about glorifying strippers and porn stars, and he goes so far as to make jokes about the sexual abuse they suffered that got them into the profession.

I do my part by NEVER EVER going to a strip club.  Never been.  Refuse to go.  My buddies want to go and I flat out refuse to go with.  It is dehumanizing to these women and provides quick cash for their drug habits.  It prevents them from finding careers or finishing school.  And it provides a lifelong stigma of having made decisions that they will hopefully later regret.  I can’t even imagine how much worse that would be for a prostitute, though being a higher end prostitute (Kristen, Heidi Fliess) is probably quite a bit different because of the lack of violence, good pay, and better clientel.