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World estimations of the number of terminations carried out each year is somewhere between 20 and 88 million.

3,500 per day / 1.3 million per year in America alone.

50% of that 1.3 million claimed failed birth control was to blame.

A further 48% had failed to use any birth control at all.

And 2% had medical reasons.

That means a stagering 98% may have been avoided had an effective birth control been used.

That means a stagering 98% may have been avoided had an effective birth control been used.

So if those 98% had killed their unborn child via birth control, they never would have killed it via abortion. It’s a travesty!

Re: the 5th amendment: see the originalist opinion Roe for why the 5th is inapplicable to fetuses.

jpe, because they said so?  Great reasoning.

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What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.

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Whistler, Roe provides a compelling originalist argument for the inapplicability of the 5th to fetuses.  If you’re an originalist, you simply can’t claim that the 5th protects the life of fetuses, because abortion in the first trimester wasn’t criminal.

If you’re an originalist, you simply can’t claim that the 5th protects the life of fetuses, because abortion in the first trimester wasn’t criminal.

But who decided that abortion in the first trimester isn’t a crime?

Life begins conception.  Trying to draw a line after some point in the unborn child’s development in the womb to say that life begins at that point is as arbitrary and dumb as drawing the same line between when the baby crawls and when the baby walks.  It’s all the same life, just different stages of development.

The Roe ruling was a joke.

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When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

-- Thomas Jefferson

Rob’s recently listened-to songs:

At the point of conception is when life began for you. This was the start of your existance. Your own personal big bang. Three weeks after conception heart started to beat. First brain waves recorded at six weeks after conception. Seen sucking thumb at seven weeks after conception.

Something for Pro-choicers to concider.....

I am a pro-lifer who has no religious convictions at all . I didn’t need the fear of god or anything else to come to my decision, just a good sense of what is right and wrong.
You see we were all once a fetus.  Is it beyond the realm of possibilities that when your mother first learned she was carrying you, she may have considered her options? What if she had decided to terminate?  Would that have been OK?
You would not exist, if you have children they would not exist, and your (husband or wife) would be married to someone else. You would have been deprived of all your experiences and memories.  In this day and age with terminations being so readily available and so many being carried out, if you make it to full term
you can consider yourself lucky.  Lucky you had a mother that made the choice of life for you. Don’t you think they all deserve the same basic human right, LIFE?
I’m all for contraception, prevention is certainly better than termination.
Did you know you can get an implant that is safe, 99.9% effective, and lasts for three years? Just think girls not even a show for three years, wouldn’t that be great? I think too many people rely too heavily on the last option (abortion), I think if abortions weren’t so readily available people would manage their reproductive system far better resulting in a fraction of the number of unwanted pregnancies.
World wide there are over 50 MILLION aborted pregnancies each year. In America 3,500 terminations carried out every day, that’s over 1.3 million every year, 50% of all cases claimed that birth control had been used, 48% admitted they took no precaution, and 2% had a medical reason. That’s a staggering 98% that may have been prevented had an effective birth control been used. Don’t get me wrong, I suspect the percentages in Australia would be much the same.
Just a lot of unnecessary killing.

At the point of conception is when life began for you. This was the start of your existence. Your own personal big bang. Three weeks after conception heart started to beat. First brain waves recorded at six weeks after conception. Seen sucking thumb at seven weeks after conception.

I am convinced that in the not too distant future, people will look back at many of the practices of today with disbelief and horror.

Want to know how to find humanity-?

True humanity can only be achieved, by concidering others/ caring about others, as much as, if not more than yourself.

Until we do we are no more than an uncivilisation, with all the uncivilised things that we do…

Abortion isn’t primarily a religious issue; it’s a human issue.  Killing babies isn’t the solution to anything, and creates many more problems than it may solve, even for the irresponsible people who practice it.

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If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

Rob: That whole “originalist” meme centers around one word: “person”.  The pro-abortionists claim that the human fetus isn’t a “person”.  What is it, a cocker spaniel?  It’s a person.  I doubt the Founders considered a human fetus as anything other than human, and so when they said “person”, they meant us all; all the humans.

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If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

But who decided that abortion in the first trimester isn’t a crime?

This is originalism 101: if fetuses were considered people at the time that the 5th (or the 14th) was ratified, then abortion would’ve been illegal, or at least there would have been the kind of outcry we see today to criminalize it.  The fact that abortions weren’t criminal for first trimester abortions and were either legal or misdemeanors after that means that those that drafted and passed the 5th amendment couldn’t have meant to cover fetuses by the bill of rights.

This is basic, basic originalism.

jpe: The medical reality at the time the Constitution was written is that for the first trimester, spontaneous(natural) abortion occurred regularly, due to the relatively primitive prenatal care available at the time.  It was felt that a prohibition on abortion might unintentionally criminalize spontaneous abortions.  The human fetus is still a person; it’s still human.  That was a medical exception, not a constitutional one.  Like most pro-abortionists, you call it a “fetus”, instead of a “human fetus”, in order to deny its humanity and personhood.

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If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

Ausblog writes:

Is it beyond the realm of possibilities that when your mother first learned she was carrying you, she may have considered her options? What if she had decided to terminate?  Would that have been OK?
You would not exist, if you have children they would not exist, and your (husband or wife) would be married to someone else. You would have been deprived of all your experiences and memories.

Later s/he writes:

I’m all for contraception, prevention is certainly better than termination.

Ausblog, how could you? What if your father had decided to wear a condom that night you were created 14 (tee hee!) years ago? Would that have been OK? You would not exist, if you have children they would not exist, and your (husband or wife) would be married to someone else. You would have been deprived of all your experiences and memories.

How can you support contraception? You’re a monster!

True humanity can only be achieved, by concidering others/ caring about others, as much as, if not more than yourself.

You said something like 50 million abortions are performed a year in the US. Well, 27 BILLION non-human animals are killed every year--about a thousand per second. Since “true humanity can only be achieved by considering others (...)as much as yourself”, what have you done to stop this slaughter?

Wait, let me guess: nothing. Because you don’t even follow your own definition of “humanity.”

According to the latest polls, it’s a statistical dead head for passage.

Dave,

Does wanting to prevent the slaughter of inocent, defenceless make me a monster? I can’t understand your reasoning.

I said between 20 and 88 million WORLDWIDE.

1.3 million per year / 3,500 per day in the US.

I love roast lamb, but did you know that in some parts of the world they actually eat babies.

BARBERIANS.

Does wanting to prevent the slaughter of inocent, defenceless make me a monster?

You don’t want to prevent the slaughter of “inocent, defenceless” (no noun), and you say so yourself, as you support slaughtering animals.

Furthermore, you also support contraception, an act that, just like abortion, prevents children from being born.

did you know that in some parts of the world they actually eat babies.

Assuming the babies died naturally, what’s wrong with that?

Dave , Birth control,
Maybe they should call them - conception control ,
you know the ones that prevent conception or ovulation.

Look I don’t know too much about the animals you speak of
but this one is close to me. Don’t ask me to elaborate.

I leave a comment for you to concider, nothing more than that. If you don’t get it, that’s fine.

Take care

Bill Clinton once said that abortions should be available , safe and RARE.  He is a very wise man.

I’d like to see an ultrasound in every clinnic to provide a more informed choice,
before going through with something they may regret.

I’d also like to see effective birth control made available to all who can’t afford it.

Have you seen ( HOT OFF THE SHOW! Throw-away babies )
a blog by Sharon Hughes?

If you think the point of conception is NOT when life begins, and all you have is a clump of cells and not a living human being.
Then at least concider this -

Soon after you were conceived you were no more than a clump of cells.
This clump of cells was you at your earliest stage, you had plenty of growing to do but this clump of cells was you none the less. Think about it.
Aren’t you glad you were left unhindered to develope further.
Safe inside your mother’s womb until you were born.