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Wednesday, June 04, 2008

So Speaketh The Messiah

Obama’s soaring rhetoric gets more than a bit absurd at times.  This is from Obama’s “acceptance” speech (if you can call accepting his declaring himself the nominee an “acceptance speech") last night:

“I am absolutely certain that generations from now, we will be able to look back and tell our children that this was the moment when we began to provide care for the sick and good jobs to the jobless; this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal”

So, what happens if Obama doesn’t cure the sick, employ the unemployable, stop the rising of the oceans and heal our planet?

We can cast him out of office for failing to follow through on his campaign promises, right?

Obama is a liberal, and thus he isn’t likely to ever propose the sort of policies I am going to support as a conservative.  But even if we set political differences aside for a moment, do we really want to elect a politician who - by evidence of his soaring campaign rhetoric - apparently thinks he’s a god?

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I wonder if the young Mr. Obama is saving the water-into-wine and loaves and fishes stuff for the Denver convention.


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Bat One on June 4, 2008 at 08:03 am
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Your conservative views have clouded your judgment!  You’re foolish to question Obama on this.  Proof?  There is no sick or unemployed people in Illinois and the lakes and rivers have receded since he’s been in office.  Spin those facts, naysayer!!!

JR Ewing on June 4, 2008 at 08:21 am
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This is what he will do to those who don’t....believe.

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Petroag on June 4, 2008 at 08:29 am

JRE is right.  Illinois has a 0.0% unemployment rate and everyone is scheduled to live to be 100 years old.

McCain will have a hard time this fall…


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Hoodlumman on June 4, 2008 at 08:34 am

There is [sic] no sick or unemployed people in Illinois and the lakes and rivers have receded since he’s been in office.

With all due respect for my dear friend Pilgrim, I still maintain that Illinois is the most corrupt state in the country and Chicago is clearly the most corrupt city.  Mr. Obama might be well advised to downplay his affiliation with both.

As for those lakes and rivers, please note that for all the leftwing, anti-Christian vitriol heaped on Georgia Gov. Sonny Perdue at the time of last fall’s public prayer for rain ceremony, the fact is it has rained, substantially, at least once every week since.

If y’all are having a drought up there in corn country, perhaps the fervent prayers of a few good men of God would help.  Young Mr. Obama could always impose on his close personal friends Wright, Pflegler, Meeks, Moss, and Farakhan for some heavenly intercession.


“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Bat One on June 4, 2008 at 08:36 am

I’m wondering about his sanity....

golfmann on June 4, 2008 at 09:58 am
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He’s no more crazy in saying so than the alternative was when he gave us his own fairy tale crystal ball gazings.  So that makes two candidates that have looked rosily into the future...or as you call it playing “God”.  They’re even there then. 

So I guess we’re just back to picking people based on the issues.  Shucks huh.

Jay on June 4, 2008 at 01:49 pm

They’re even there then.

Step one: feign equivalence, even when there is none.

What’s your step two?

likwidshoe on June 4, 2008 at 02:17 pm
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Step one...change the subject without actually addressing what was stated.

I would venture to guess that step two, for you, would be “GOOGLE”.

Jay on June 4, 2008 at 02:24 pm

Oh wait, nevermind Jay. I see that you were the liberal who can’t do math.

Maybe you’ll again start crying about how nobody comes over to your little site.

Be happy you got this much attention.

likwidshoe on June 4, 2008 at 02:26 pm
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He’s no more crazy in saying so than the alternative was when he gave us his own fairy tale crystal ball gazings.  So that makes two candidates that have looked rosily into the future...or as you call it playing “God”.  They’re even there then.

Step one for Jay: MCCAIN DID IT TOO!!!

Memo for Jay: A lot of conservatives here are more than ready to admit that McCain is a crappy candidate.  And of those conservatives, a lot don’t even plan on voting for McCain.

But here’s the kicker: That doesn’t make Obama any less of a far-left liberal who will never, ever sit in the White House.


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Rob on June 4, 2008 at 02:48 pm
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Jay, here’s another note: Some of us don’t want a politician who aspires to so much power that he thinks he can actually stop the rising of the oceans.

Many of us don’t think it’s good for so much power to be concentrated with one person.  That’s why we enjoy living in America, where power is distributed to the states and to the people.

I can understand why a liberal like you would want an all-powerful supreme leader because that’s what it takes to enforce the sort of socialist, wealth redistribution policies you favor.  But it hasn’t worked out so well for the Russians, Cubans, Koreans, Chinese, Vietnamese or anywhere else it’s been tried.


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Rob on June 4, 2008 at 02:51 pm

Many of us don’t think it’s good for so much power to be concentrated with one person.

To bad our current president believes in Unitary Executive powers.


Excuse me, you were saying?


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realitybasedbob on June 4, 2008 at 03:34 pm
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Memo for Jay: A lot of conservatives here are more than ready to admit that McCain is a crappy candidate.  And of those conservatives, a lot don’t even plan on voting for McCain.

I always love this little bit of nonsense from Rob.  He justifies his bullshit, hypocritical arguments against Obama, and his total lack of attention to HIS PARTY’S NOMINEE, by simply stating that there are conservatives that don’t like him. 

And the fact that you ignore the misgivings of YOUR PARTY’S own candidate, allthewhile harping on the candidate of the other party, despite the fact that said misgivings are universal, makes you a hypocrite.  And you don’t get to explain it away by saying offhandidly that you don’t like McCain either.

Jay on June 4, 2008 at 08:14 pm

Rob:  If Obama will never, ever sit in the White House, who will?  And how will that person get there if large numbers of conservatives plan on boycotting the election?

Something in your equation doesn’t add up.


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pparets on June 4, 2008 at 08:21 pm
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Jay, here’s another note: Some of us don’t want a politician who aspires to so much power that he thinks he can actually stop the rising of the oceans.

Many of us don’t think it’s good for so much power to be concentrated with one person.  That’s why we enjoy living in America, where power is distributed to the states and to the people.

Says a constant defender of the current administration.  Or is there a signing statement that I’m unaware of that makes this OK. Seriously, you can’t go two seconds without being an absolute hyprocrite.  It must be really nice living in your world, not having to really worry about what you’ve said or endorsed in the past.

Jay on June 4, 2008 at 08:21 pm
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That doesn’t make Obama any less of a far-left liberal who will never, ever sit in the White House.

You read less and less like a credible predictor of things, and more and more like a nutbag, basement manifesto writer every day Rob.

Jay on June 4, 2008 at 08:25 pm
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Says a constant defender of the current administration.  Or is there a signing statement that I’m unaware of that makes this OK.

So...because I support some of Bush’s policies I support all of them?

What a small minded person you are.


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Rob on June 4, 2008 at 08:26 pm
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Oh wait, nevermind Jay. I see that you were the liberal who can’t do math.

Maybe you’ll again start crying about how nobody comes over to your little site.

Be happy you got this much attention.

My bad, I guess Google was too hard for Lik.  Step two was apparently “resort to old-hat pettiness”.  I should have known.  That’s how people operate around here.

Jay on June 4, 2008 at 08:27 pm
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So...because I support some of Bush’s policies I support all of them?

What a small minded person you are.

You honestly cannot be consistent can you?  You’re just not wired to do it. 

You realize that you make this type of generalization EVERY SINGLE DAY, as do all of your posters, when it comes to “liberals”, right? 

It’s apparent to me that you’ve become desensitized to your own inconsistency, thereby making it impossible for you to engage in a reasonable argument.  I blame your lemming readers.

Jay on June 4, 2008 at 08:34 pm
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You honestly cannot be consistent can you?  You’re just not wired to do it.

You realize that you make this type of generalization EVERY SINGLE DAY, as do all of your posters, when it comes to “liberals”, right? 

So...we’re back to the “You do it too!” argument?

Honestly, Jay.  I expected more from you.

As for lemming readers, I’d be willing to bet that about as many of the active commenters here disagree with me than agree with me.  And of those who agree with me on some things, we disagree on others.

But hey, you’ve proven that you’ll believe what you want to believe regardless of things like “fact” or “reason” so I’ll just leave you to you to it.

Remember, though, that I’m so inconsistent that I’m not supporting the Republican candidate for President this year.  Because I’m just a lemming hypocrite and stuff.


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Rob on June 4, 2008 at 08:54 pm
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So...we’re back to the “You do it too!” argument?

Honestly, Jay.  I expected more from you.

So this is how you’re going to defend your continued inconsistency?  By saying that I can’t point it out?  More mental gymanstics. 

Unfortunately, I didn’t expect more from you.

Remember, though, that I’m so inconsistent that I’m not supporting the Republican candidate for President this year.  Because I’m just a lemming hypocrite and stuff.

Nice non sequitor.  If this discussion were a biker rally, your statement would be a burnout.  Loud and primal for the five heads, but actually accomplishing nothing.

Jay on June 4, 2008 at 09:29 pm
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This is another lie by Rob.  Obama isn’t trying to take credit for all of these changes he would like to see happen.  He clearly said this is for all of us to achieve. 

He is inspiring all of us to invest in making these changes possible.  He said this is OUR time to....ect, ect.

He is simply motivating he base to believe again, that they can make a difference.  Much like Kennedy had.  That really urkes guys like Rob.

Hannitized on June 5, 2008 at 09:43 am
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