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Friday, May 11, 2007

So One Day I Came Home And Found Out I’d Been Banned From An Indian Reservation…

...according to Ryan Gustafson.

You can read his post on the subject here.  Ryan claims that both myself and Dakota Beacon editor Steve Cates have been banned from the Turtle Mountain Indian reservation and that Steve himself is going to be sued.  Also that we are going to be forced to retract a column I wrote.  This is apparently happening because, according to Gustafson and his source, I’m a racist and that column, called “The Appalling State Of Our Indian Reservations,” has been dubbed defamatory.

I’ve re-published that column in the extended entry of this post (you can read it below) for the sake of showing, once again, that my column was neither racist nor defamatory.

Ryan is operating on information received from an unnamed tipster who I am fairly certainly is none other than Andy Laverdure, the former director of the Turtle Mountain Housing authority who has been posting threats and other sorts of gibberish on this blog for some time now (prime examples in the comments here and here, with a post about his threats in particular here).  You’ll note that while Andy is apparently seeking to ban me from the reservation he lives on, I never once blocked any of his comments on this blog.  Because as much as I disagree with him, I value his free speech.

First, let me put this rumor to rest.  I have not been banned from the Turtle Mountain Indian reservation, nor is there any lawsuit in the works against myself, Steve Cates or the Dakota Beacon.  Steve, who I have spoken with tonight, talked with tribal leaders today who indicated that certain elements on the reservation want me to be banned and want a lawsuit filed.  Steve was informed by these tribal leaders that there is a process by which people can be banned from the reservation (it’s been used in the past to keep known criminal elements like drug dealers out of tribal communities) but the chances of it being used against someone like myself merely for criticizing the political and social status quo on the reservations is between slim and none.  A committee on the reservation is apparently “considering” the ban and the lawsuit, but he was told that this is mostly being done to placate certain rabble rousers and isn’t likely to go forward for a variety of reasons not the least of which is the fact that, like it or not, the constitution’s free speech protections do in fact stretch onto the Indian reservations.

The idea that a tribe can simply order a mandatory retraction of any article or opinion column they find inconvenient is patently absurd.

The lawsuit idea is particularly absurd.  After all, one cannot libel if one is telling the truth.  In order for any such lawsuit to be successful the plaintiffs would have to prove that I lied with malicious intent.  Anyone who a) is familiar with North Dakota’s Indian reservations and b) has read my column knows that I wasn’t lying.  Things are awful on the reservation, and I’m simply being persecuted for daring to speak out about it.

I’m a little surprised that things have gotten to this point (what with the personal threats and talk of bans and all), but I’m not at all surprised that people like Ryan Gustafson (a mover-and-shaker behind a myriad of far-left groups here in North Dakota like NDPeople.org) would be giddy at the idea of myself and Steve getting sued and/or banned simply for exercising free speech.  It’s about par for the course with people like him.  I’ll not say that Gustafson represents all leftists (I’ve met many who are staunch supporters of free speech), but he does represent a certain breed who would just as soon see their ideas and opinions advanced by silencing those that disagree with them.  As an example, see that Andy Laverdure has been posting the same information he sent Ryan Gustafson in liberal talk radio host (and North Dakota native) Ed Schultz’s online forum to the cheering and fawning of Ed’s shallow audience who apparently have no appreciation for free speech.

I can understand why liberals, in particular, would be upset with my column and would be cheering on the folks like Andy who are looking to persecute me for it.  For one, I’ve been a rather outspoken conservative in North Dakota for a few years now and I’m starting to get some attention and notoriety for it.  For another, the Indian reservations are a model showing exactly why big-government and social entitlements don’t work.  Criticizing the welfare state of the Indian reservations means criticizing the very soul of liberal thinking.  Namely, that the state exists to take care of us all and that all problems can be solved simply by spending a few more tax dollars.

But whatever.  Personally, I’m not much worried about this.  If by some off chance I am banned from the reservation and/or sued by the tribe the folks behind it are simply going to make themselves look foolish.  Because whether you agree with my column or not there is nothing illegal about it.  I told the truth, and that’s that.  If I’m to be banned from an Indian reservation for telling the truth, so be it.

It’s not going to shut me up.

And in the name of free speech, I invite all of my critics (and all of my supporters) to start up a reader blog here on Say Anything.  Just click here for instructions.  The comments sections of my post are always wide-open for dissent and criticism, but if you want to provide a counterpoint to my commentary here on this blog what better way to do it than on this blog?  Post as much as you want whenever you want and be as critical of me as you want to be.  Within certain reasonable limits (and by that I mean don’t plagiarize, libel or do anything else illegal) you won’t be censored.

I’m throwing down the gauntlet.  Hate what I have to say?  Disagree with me?  Think I’m full of it?  Here’s your chance to call me out on my own blog in front of my own audience.  I’m challenging all of you to meet me in the arena of ideas.

Because that’s so much more productive than trying to silence me with lawsuits and bans, especially if you feel your arguments are superior to mine.

Update: According to this blogger the resolution banning me from the Turtle Mountain reservation was passed by the TM Chippewa.

Here’s the text from the link:

“WHEREAS, there has been no effort made on the part of the Dakota Beacon to retract the article, amidst numerous complaints by tribal members; and

WHEREAS, Rob Port, author of the article and webmaster of SayanythingBlog.com has made no effort to either retract or apologize to the Turtle Mountain Band of Chippewa Indians; now

THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED that, Rob Port, author of the aforementioned article and webmaster of SayAnythingBlog.com, be excluded and removed from all land on the Turtle Mountain Indian Reservation in the State of North Dakota and from such other lands as may be acquired on behalf of said Tribe and be added thereto under the laws of the United States and pursuant to Title 39 of the Turtle Mountain Tribal Code, in order that the peace, health, political integrity, economic security and general welfare of the Turtle Mountain Band of Chippewa be secured; and

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that, Steve Cates, publisher of the Dakota Beacon, and Dakota Beacon, Inc. publicly retract the January 2007 article “The Appalling State of North Dakota Indian Reservations” by issuing a letter to the Turtle Mountain Band of Chippewa Indians, with said letter placed by the tribe for publication in regional news outlets and issuance to each of the other tribes in the State of North Dakota; and

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that this resolution be transmitted to the U.S. Senate Committee on Indian Affairs, North Dakota Congressional Delegation Members, the Governor of the State of North Dakota and the North Dakota State Indian Affairs Commission for follow-through, oversight and information.”

At this point I’m not sure if this resolution has been passed or if this is simply what’s being considered.  Steve spoke with the tribal officials today, not me, so maybe there’s some confusion here.

Regardless, the idea that banning me for the sake of the “peace, health, political integrity, economic security and general welfare of the Turtle Mountain Band of Chippewa” is...humorous given that I’m rarely on the reservations, and the crime, poverty, substance abuse and decrepit living conditions that exist on the reservation have developed, and will continue, whether I’m allowed on the reservation or not.

Update: I emailed the blogger at the link above and she’s taken down her post until she can verify whether or not this resolution has passed.

Update: Brenda Norrell, the blogger linked above, just emailed to say that she received the text of the resolution in the form of a press release apparently sent out by the tribe with “you can request a copy from Jolene Peltier, Tribal Secretary, Turtle Mountain Tribe” at the end of it.

I’ll be contacting the tribe to see whether or not this passed as soon as possible.

Update: Brenda has emailed again indicating that she has read the comment threads on this blog and notes that the email she got was from an individual and not a tribe.  Which means that someone on this blog is sending out fake press releases.

Naughty, naughty.

The Original Column:

Yesterday I had occasion to spend about 15 hours visiting people on the Turtle Mountain Indian Reservation in northern North Dakota, and I’ve got to say that I was pretty shocked by what I saw.

I’ve spent a lot of time on North Dakota’s Indian reservations.  I’ve worked there, visited businesses and restaurants and driven throughout them.  I’ve even been up to a lot of people’s houses to deliver things or obtain information, so I’ve been aware of the poor conditions on the reservations for some time, but never before yesterday have I had the opportunity to have such an intimate look at life on the reservation.  I was not impressed with what I saw.

The first thing I noticed was that while I was going around neighborhoods and knocking on doors was that nearly everyone seemed to be at home.  Just about every knock received an answer.  In a non-reservation community when I go through residential neighborhoods during the day it’s hard to find people at home.  Everyone is out and busy.  Why isn’t it like this on the reservation?  Probably because in most of North Dakota the unemployment rate is around 3%, while on the Indian reservations it’s about 65%.

Which is a sad commentary in and of itself, but rampant unemployment aside the simple reality of the conditions these people are living in is even more amazing.  I saw kids playing outside, on a day when the temperature was just below freezing, in shorts and bare feet (though they were wearing parkas).  I met people living in homes with broken out windows and nothing but a piece of plywood or some plastic stretched over them to keep out the cold.  I saw homes with dozens of abandoned vehicles around them, and took in smells emitting from some of the doors that were opened to me that brought tears to my eyes.  Inside the homes I saw mountains of unwashed dishes, mounds of unwashed clothes, overflowing trash cans, walls literally dripping with nicotine from the constant smoking and throughout it all children playing in the reek.

And the people living in these homes were as disappointing as the homes themselves.  I met people who were drunk (or high or something) at noon, even as their children played in the road and on the twisted, sharp metal of abandoned cars.  I saw a visibly pregnant mother smoking a cigarette and drinking a beer.  I met a woman who was 29 years old and already a grandmother (to no fewer than three grandchildren) thanks to both her and her daughter’s young pregnancies.  I met men and women, fathers and mothers, who had spent more of their lives in prison then out of prison.  I met entire families whose only source of income seemed to be from stealing or selling drugs plus whatever they got from the government in terms of assistance.

I have heard tales from the notorious slums in places like Los Angeles and New York, but I’m not sure those slums can beat North Dakota’s Indian reservations in terms of pure filth and abhorrent living conditions.

So how is this happening in North Dakota?  A state that is thriving economically right now?  A state where the unemployment rate is so low that employers are practically screaming for workers?  I know why it’s happening, but not a lot of people are going to want to hear it.

It’s happening because of the total failure of the idea embraced by some that the government exists to take care of us.  The government has been taking care of North Dakota’s Indians, but it’s harming them more than it’s helping.

I know, I know.  The Indians have gotten a raw deal in this country’s history, but “history” is exactly what that is.  We’re in a new era now.  Our government spends billions of dollars on creating education and employment opportunities for Indians, not to mention the billions spent on personal assistance for the Indians themselves in the form of housing money, food money, welfare money, etc.  But none of this is working.  Most of the Indians on these reservations eat up all of that assistance and still don’t manage to lift themselves out of the ghettos they’re living in.  Why?  I think it’s because they live without consequences.

Most of us would probably consider living in a squalid apartment in a nasty housing complex a pretty serious consequence for not getting ahead in life, but it seems to me as though most of these Indians are perfectly content to live there.  Probably because they don’t know any better.  They were likely raised in housing projects by their parents, who in turn were probably raised in housing projects themselves.  The “welfare mentality” has become so ingrained in these people that most of them don’t have any drive to reach for something better.  It’s not that they’re incapable of education and holding down a steady job, it’s just that they don’t have to do those things to eek by in life.  Like their parents before them, they leave selfish lives full of self-gratification and little achievement while the government subsidizes them.

We can give these people all the opportunities in the world, but it isn’t going to make a lick of difference until there are some real consequences for cashing in on those opportunities.  The safety net needs to be taken out from under the Indians.  The reservation system needs to end.  The cradle-to-grave entitlements need to end.  The time of tough love needs to begin.  Because that’s the only way things are going to get better on these reservations.

Our government has tried to take care of the Indians for decades now, and all it has resulted in is rampant crime, rampant unemployment, rampant substance abuse and poverty.  It is cruel to perpetuate the current system simply because the idea of removing assistance from these people seems cruel.  What is cruel is putting them in a situation where there is no impetus to succeed.  Now is the time to shift the responsibility for making it in the world to the Indians themselves.  Not only to help them, but also to end the mean charade of the status quo.

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What a bunch of babies.

Let’s translate the response:

We’ll take all of the federal tax money we want and you better not have any opinions about it.

This situation is very telling. No wonder the Indian reservations are in such dire straits.

likwidshoe on May 11, 2007 at 10:05 pm
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In Texas, the Mexican dream of a democratic republic that would include Europeans, Africans, and Native Americans—a dream that came to life after independence from Spain in 1821—clashed with the nightmare of a racist Anglo-American society founded on exploitation and slavery and bent on expansion and the eradication of all opposition. The Anglo invaders of Texas later canonized as revolutionary heroes were a gang of land speculators, slaveholders, slave traders, and Indian killers. Austin, the first of the land speculators in Texas, took slaves with him when he immigrated there in 1821 and did more than any other American to establish and defend the institution of slavery in Mexican Texas. James Walker Fannin, who established a slave plantation at Velasco and commanded the presidio at Goliad under a bloody pirate flag, was personally involved in the illegal African slave trade from Cuba. James Bowie, the notorious knife-fighter and murderer, was a land speculator and unscrupulous slave trader who made his fortune by subverting the ban on the slave trade in the U.S. Bowie bought captured slaves from the pirate Jean Laffite in Galveston and sold them for immense profit in Louisiana and Mississippi. William Barret Travis, later commander of the ill-fated Anglo garrison at the Alamo, entered Texas illegally and, immediately upon his arrival, began trading in slaves. As an attorney, he attempted to secure the return of runaway slaves from Louisiana who had been granted asylum in the Mexican fort at Anahuac. David (Davy) Crockett, former U.S. congressman and Indian killer who had participated in the massacre of the Creek town of Tallussahatchee under Andrew Jackson, went to Texas seeking his fortune in land speculation. And last, but not least, there was Sam Houston, who entered Texas in 1832 as an undercover agent for Jackson (who had been elected President of the U.S. in 1828) and was rewarded handsomely for his part in the American takeover of Texas—he became a wealthy landowner and slaveholder with an illustrious political career in the Republic of Texas and, after annexation, as a U.S. Senator from the State of Texas.

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Gee whiz, I wonder why the red man is suspicious of the white man’s motives?

It would be wise for you to issue a public apology to the members of the Turtle Mountain indigenous people for any statements made by you that may have been construed as offensive. 

If you had been a French aristocrat during the French Revolution, your charred body would have been left to rot weeks ago.  Those crazy peasants would have forced you to beg for mercy and still would have thrown you into a hellfire.  Consider yourself lucky for just getting banned.  You’re a pariah now. 

You’ll never live it down.

What’s that they say?  “It is best to remain silent and be thought ignorant than to speak up and remove all doubt.” Well, that goes for all of you ‘Republicans.’

There are blighted areas of any city or town anywhere you go.

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There are blighted areas of any city or town anywhere you go.

Perhaps.  But areas as blighted as the Indian reservations, and areas where unemployment hovers in the mid-60%’s, are pretty few and far between.

That a lot of communities have blighted areas is no reason for us to ignore the conditions that exist on the reservations.

I’m not apologizing for anything, because I’m not wrong.  If people are offended because I told the truth why don’t we question why they’re insulted rather than why I told the truth?


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Rob on May 11, 2007 at 10:15 pm

...any statements made by you that may have been construed as offensive.

You mean “misconstrued”, right?  Rob has no control over the thought processes(if you can call them that) of the haters; they hate everything that doesn’t conform to their ideology.  They actually hate diversity.


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robert108 on May 11, 2007 at 10:29 pm

Ronald Walter spews, It would be wise for you to issue a public apology to the members of the Turtle Mountain indigenous people for any statements made by you that may have been construed as offensive.

How about this:

I’m sorry that you’re so weak that you can’t accept criticism. I’m sorry that many of the Indians came to the blog and admitted that the article was truthful.

Wait...what are we supposed to be sorry for again? Pointing out the truth? Haha! How ridiculous.

Gee whiz, I wonder why the red man is suspicious of the white man’s motives?

Gee whiz, you had to go back to 1821 to make that point? Why are you bringing race into it? Why are you blaming Rob for someone else’s actions? Can you catch the irony in doing that?

What’s that they say?  “It is best to remain silent and be thought ignorant than to speak up and remove all doubt.” Well, that goes for all of you ‘Republicans.’

Translation: it’s now “ignorant” to speak about the realities of the Indian reservation system.

The Indian reservations have some probl...SHHHH! BE QUIET!

Too funny.

likwidshoe on May 11, 2007 at 10:43 pm

THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED that, Rob Port, author of the aforementioned article and webmaster of SayAnythingBlog.com, be excluded and removed from all land on the Turtle Mountain Indian Reservation in the State of North Dakota…

But they’ll accept your tax money!

I wonder if the tribe will next move to ban the members who have agreed with the article. Probably not. That would require intellectual honesty; something that they clearly lack.

likwidshoe on May 11, 2007 at 11:53 pm

No wonder the reservations have so many problems if this is the way they deal with them.

Don’t like outside criticism? Ban them!

Investigate and cure obvious poverty? No need! File useless lawsuits instead.

There is deep, deep denial going on here.

Ken McCracken on May 12, 2007 at 01:23 am

Leftists will blame anyone and everyone but themselves for the ideologies that have led millions to decades of despair, desperation, ruination and hopelessness.

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A: It would be wise…

Q: What four words from Ron are a dead bang guarantee that whatever follows is the opposite?

Rob should apologize for inflicting his painful but true observations on the world after Ron’s Mom apologizes for inflicting his painful, inane and false observations on the world.



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Proof on May 12, 2007 at 06:48 am

Rob,

If the conditions at Turtle Mountain are even half as vile and depressig as you describe, the obvious question is why would you even want to go back again?


“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Bat One on May 12, 2007 at 07:34 am

Rob has no control over the thought processes(if you can call them that) of the haters; they hate everything that doesn’t conform to their ideology.  They actually hate diversity.

Which is exactly the same thing that could be said for those who are rightards!

Leftists will blame anyone and everyone but themselves for the ideologies that have led millions to decades of despair, desperation, ruination and hopelessness.

Rightists blame poor people for the problems in the country.  If Rightists had the solutions that worked, there wouldn’t be any problems right now.

RaeMarie70 on May 12, 2007 at 07:56 am

Rae, we blame government entitlements for poor programs.  And we blame liberals for the entitlements.

So to say we blame poor people is just not correct.

We (myself included) do blame the leftists for creating more poverty and keeping people from being successful.

Maybe you don’t agree with that but please don’t mis characterize our position.


What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.


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The Whistler on May 12, 2007 at 07:59 am

RaeMarie70 said, Rightists blame poor people for the problems in the country.  If Rightists had the solutions that worked, there wouldn’t be any problems right now.

How does this make sense in a country awash in New Deal and Great Society programs?

Oh right - it makes no sense. Rae is just talking shit, as usual.

likwidshoe on May 12, 2007 at 08:09 am
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A lawsuit would be deeply, deeply stupid, and any retaliatory action would be similarly ridiculous.  Being a fairly partisan liberal, I obviously disagree with the thesis of the original article, but the only non-stupid remedy is to publish a rebuttal.

jpe on May 12, 2007 at 08:21 am
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Those crazy peasants would have forced you to beg for mercy and still would have thrown you into a hellfire.  Consider yourself lucky for just getting banned.

Translation: “we’re slightly more civilized than bloodthirsty revolutionaries.”

Really, not idiotic in the least.

jpe on May 12, 2007 at 08:23 am

Rae,

If I wanted a new Mercedes but could not afford one, I certainly wouldn’t go around trying to blame the guy who already drives one.  That wouldn’t make any sense at all.

And if I can’t manage to take my family on vacation, that’s certainly not government’s fault.  Nor is it the fault of the guy who can afford it.  The fault is mine… and mine alone.

The first step in solving a problem, is identifying exactly what… and whose… the problem really is.


“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Bat One on May 12, 2007 at 08:29 am

That’s true Bat, but the larger problem is the government who is empowered by more poor people. 

Who lives better because of the welfare system.  Not the people on welfare, they’d be much better off if they were productive.  Not the taxpayer.  No it’s the politicians and bureaucrats that skim off the system to empower themselves.


What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.


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The Whistler on May 12, 2007 at 09:13 am
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Who is being totally ignorant?  Who? Who?

Wouldn’t it be wiser to see the truth and then do something about it?  Why criticize when a helping hand would be a better approach?

An apology will work wonders.  Don’t let vanity and false pride get in your way, Rob.  It isn’t helping you any.

“It is not the critic who counts: not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself for a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat.”

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Of course, Proof would rather go the schadenfreude route than actually put forth any worthwhile effort.  He is the ultimate ‘useful idiot.’

Ronald Walter on May 12, 2007 at 09:16 am

An apology will work wonders.  Don’t let vanity and false pride get in your way, Rob.  It isn’t helping you any.

Why apologize when there is nothing to apologize for?

Think about that one as you go on about ignorance.

likwidshoe on May 12, 2007 at 09:22 am

Who is being totally ignorant?  Who? Who?

Someone let an owl in here?

Proof,

My congratulations, Sir!  To be labeled the “ultimate useful idiot” by the likes of Ronald is truly a high honor… especially considering the source.  Bravo!


“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Bat One on May 12, 2007 at 09:25 am

Being a fairly partisan liberal, I obviously disagree with the thesis of the original article,

I assume that you aren’t disputing that many people on the reservation live in deep poverty?


What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.


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Who is being totally ignorant?  Who? Who?

B1: I thought he was auditioning to do the opening theme to CSI -Loserville!



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Proof on May 12, 2007 at 09:28 am
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I didn’t think you would fall for that one, Batty One.

Come on, think, man.  You’re big fish too?  Good gosh, fishing with such good bait lands some big ones.

Ronald Walter on May 12, 2007 at 09:34 am

So....he shouls issue a public statement saying that he alologises for any comments he may have made that were offensive?

Whether Walter knows it or ont he just illustrated a classic example of the left’s ongoing effort to crush free speech. Don’t disgree with the politically correct. Ever. That whole I-may-disgree-with-what-you-say-but-I’ll-defend-to-the-death-your-right-to-say-it stuff is just a load of crap, right, Walter.

Orwell would be scared of you guys.


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Pilgrim on May 12, 2007 at 09:41 am
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If it isn’t apparent by now that Rob has offended some members of the Turtle Mountain indigenous people, you have your head in the clouds.

I have driven through the Turtle Mountains many times.  I just don’t see where there is such abject poverty.  Take a walk about six blocks in any direction of the US Capital, Warshington, DC and experience the poverty that exists there, if you dare.  It doesn’t take an rocket surgeon to see the poverty that is there is much worse than any area of the Turtle Mountains.

“It is no shame to be poor, to be ashamed of it is.” - Ben Franklin

It is also shameful and disgusting to point with pride and view with alarm.  Get a clue.

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Ronald Walter on May 12, 2007 at 09:46 am

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That sucks. Don’t worry though, that is probably the worst reaction that those ‘Turtles’ could have had. I don’t think it will do much to paint you as a racist or a defamer - in fact, it strikes me as a defamatory move on the part of the Indians. It true, it does have some racial undertones, merely because the group in question is of one race and they would rather construe it as racist instead of taking the constructive criticisms as one should and/or responsibility for their own lives and futures. Personally, if I were a ‘Turtle’, I would have responded by canvassing the countryside for welfare-receiving, irresponsible Scandinavians and written a harsh expose on the burden they pose to the community and their inability to do positive things to improve the lives of themselves and their neighbors. Next time you should visit a white community that has similar issues and include both critiques in one piece so as to avoid the ‘race’ trolls.
‘De-nial’ is not a river in Africa. You have gotten a telling response from the beginning from the group in question.


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Sparkie Arbuckle on May 12, 2007 at 09:49 am
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Rob can say and do any ol’ thing he pleases.  I ain’t about to stop him.  He’s made his bed.

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fishing with such good bait…

and as you’ve demostrated here many times Ron, you are a Master Baiter!



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Proof on May 12, 2007 at 09:52 am

Ronald Walter said, If it isn’t apparent by now that Rob has offended some members of the Turtle Mountain indigenous people, you have your head in the clouds.

I would argue that the truth has offended the Turtle Mountain “indigenous” people.

I have driven through the Turtle Mountains many times.  I just don’t see where there is such abject poverty.

You caught all of that just driving through? Wow. Tell us more.

Take a walk about six blocks in any direction of the US Capital, Warshington, DC and experience the poverty that exists there, if you dare.  It doesn’t take an rocket surgeon to see the poverty that is there is much worse than any area of the Turtle Mountains.

So what? What does this have to do with anything that is being discussed here? Nothing.

You know what’s sad with your example? If we were to examine the figures, we’d find out that Washington D.C. is significantly less impoverished than Belcourt.

It is also shameful and disgusting to point with pride and view with alarm.  Get a clue.

More jibberish.

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If it isn’t apparent by now that Rob has offended some members of the Turtle Mountain indigenous people, you have your head in the clouds.

The question, oh, Clueless One, is not whether or not they were offended, but the verity of the thing that offended them.
My ability to make cogent argument and your ability to respond only with drooling babble may offend you, but that is not a reason for me to quit, or to apologize to you for making you look so petty, small and illiterate by comparison.
I’m certain the less than subtle nuance of the arguments escape you Ronald. I would expect nothing less!



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Proof on May 12, 2007 at 10:02 am

Take a walk about six blocks in any direction of the US Capital, Warshington, DC and experience the poverty that exists there, if you dare.  It doesn’t take an rocket surgeon to see the poverty that is there is much worse than any area of the Turtle Mountains.

The cause of both is government dependence and entitlement.  The solution to both is the same.

Interesting that as close to the capital as those slums are they just keep getting worse and worse.  Maybe because we keep trying to fix the problem with more poison.

Did Rob claim that there was no poverty elsewhere? In fact he said that parts of the reservation rival slums elsewhere.

Why does Wonald want people to be stuck in poverty.


What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.


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The Whistler on May 12, 2007 at 10:16 am

Did Rob claim that there was no poverty elsewhere?

No, he didn’t. But that doesn’t matter to people like Ronald Walter and quite a few of the Indians who have commented. It’s all a deflection technique. “HEY, LOOK OVER HERE!”

likwidshoe on May 12, 2007 at 10:23 am
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likwidshoe said:

If we were to examine the figures, we’d find out that Washington D.C. is significantly less impoverished than Belcourt.

Sure, why not?

D.C. vs. Belcourt:

Population 582,049 vs. 8,331
Poverty rate 16.9% vs. 108% *
Unemployment 6.5% vs. 70%
Median income $46,211 vs. $15,500 **

* This is tounge-in-cheek.  Based on the article linked to in the unemployment rate link above, “If poverty were a city here in Turtle Mountain, it would be made up of about 9,000 people.” Since the population link above lists the total population as 8,331, well, I think you get it.

** Estimated as of 2005.

Angus McMurphy on May 12, 2007 at 11:29 am

Wow. ‘Flickertail’ is one pandering tart eh? What a racist!


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Sparkie Arbuckle on May 12, 2007 at 11:49 am

If it isn’t apparent by now that Rob has offended some members of the Turtle Mountain indigenous people, you have your head in the clouds.

Not to pile on here, but so what?!  Why is that fact important?

It seems to me the only persons who are entitled to make note of the offense taken by someone else, or their righteous indignation, would be those who demonstrate that such a courtesy is a consistent concern and make every effort themselves to avoid giving offense… including gratuitous personal insults, Ronald.

Stuff a sock in it!  You are the very last person to be taking note of someone else’s indignation.


“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Bat One on May 12, 2007 at 01:02 pm

...the Beacon is a private newspaper right? This kind of effort to quiet Rob is only going to draw more attention to the non-racist, non-defamatory critique Rob offered. If I owned the Beacon, I would give Rob a regular column, knowing that people are gonna buy it or visit the web site to view it. This PC Maoist approach the ‘Turtles’ and the ‘Progs’ have resorted to only draws support from idiots. Most people with a functioning brain, some sense of responsibility and dignity, and independence will know exactly what Rob is getting at. Furthermore, just because the ‘delivery’ is viewed as flawed doesn’t mean much. So far, from the ‘Turtles’, we have only heard people taking issue with the style of delivery Rob used (its racist or defamatory). What about the underlying criticisms of the various systems in place and the resulting apathy, at the public’s expense? What about the corruption that prevents these systems from working in the intended manner? Is exposing wasting, child abuse, drug use, and/or corruption now racist? If I’m not mistaken, just about all of those are illegal. Are the police racists because they are critical of illegal activities? The answer is ‘yes’ - in the minds of many people, apparently. The further question is: Do the ‘Turtles’ and the ‘Progs’ really want to continue to be taken seriously? If so, I suggest they loosen up as they live in a free country, however unfortunate they consider that to be. Next there will be calls for publicly funded pushes for debate in order to manufacture sides on this issue that just don’t exist. Fact is, most people believe in free speech. Only idiots feel they should be able to say whatever they want while others don’t. Only idiots think that they alone are able to judge what is fit for public consumption and what is not.

There are grave epistemic fallacies in thinking one is that infallible or knows what is ‘right’ - whether Rob or the ‘Turtles’. No matter who, they are wrong some of the time. Saying one is always right is like saying the lottery is unwinnable. People still buy lottery tickets though. Why? Because they know sometimes the lottery is winnable. Rob provided a first person account of what he saw on the Reservation. That lottery, unfortunately, is unwinnable. Rob’s inferences of the psychologies involved are necessarily a little more winnable (the chances they are wrong increase), however Rob did not make these on a case-by-case basis - it was broad. Rob has also admitted that there are exceptions to these generalizations. In other words, one can buy a lottery ticket… Its nowhere near as fallacious as people who believe they are endowed with the type of infallibility that allows them to know what should be censored and what shouldn’t.


Yun Chu said, “You must strictly not express in words what is very significant. Both dragon and snake are killed in one blow.”

Sparkie Arbuckle on May 12, 2007 at 01:50 pm

In his 2008 budget, President Bush proposed a $16 million increase in law enforcement funding in Indian country to help combat methamphetamine, a godsend to police departments.

“The heartbreaking part of it is, it’s had this absolutely devastating effect on our community,”

“I have tribal leaders coming to my office all the time just crying. I mean, how do you fight this?

How do you function as a government when 30 percent of your tribal employees are now using meth?”

Joel on May 12, 2007 at 02:36 pm

You might as well give us the article that those quotes came from Joel.

Notice how that AP article talked only about the meth problems that the Indians have been going through (which we are assured is “racist"). Notice that the AP article only talked about the bad and didn’t “balance” it with the good (which we are assured is because of “hatred").

Any minute now, there will be a swarm of ignorant Indians demanding retractions and calling names. Any....minute....now....

likwidshoe on May 12, 2007 at 02:51 pm

The GF Herald and Fargo Fool-um ran those stories.  Those papers are going to be so in trouble.


What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.


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The Whistler on May 12, 2007 at 02:53 pm

The GF Herald and Fargo Fool-um ran those stories.  Those papers are going to be so in trouble.

Uh oh! I wonder when that pompous ass known as Andrew Laverdure will proclaim that the AP should “retract the publication of the...article and publicly announce error”. After all, just talking about these problems is only “creating more problems”. I wonder what the Associated Press agenda is? I bet they’re *cue scary music* associated with all sorts of anti-Indian groups. It has to be some nefarious and secret plot.

Hah. Too much fun.

I wonder if Andrew and his ilk will ever come to realize that they’ve done far more damage to their images than Rob Port ever could.

likwidshoe on May 12, 2007 at 03:12 pm
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6 blocks west and you are at the Washington Monument.  ^ blocks 6 blocks west and you are at the Washington Monument.  6 blocks north and you are north of Union Station, not too bad an area.  6 blocks east and you are in some old decent neighborhoods.  6 blocks south and you are in the ghetto.  But hey, 1 for 4 counts as brilliant in lefty land.

Ron Mexico on May 14, 2007 at 05:03 am
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Just dropped in by insta-link and can’t believe what I’m reading. I’m not a North Dakotan and won’t comment on what I don’t know but I used to live and work just outside of DC so I know a bit about that. If your community is compared to DC in any way other than in the beauty and quality of its monuments, your community is in deep, deep trouble.

DC is a very dysfunctional place and when a reservation’s defenders compare the conditions there to DC that tells me that the people there are ensnared in an economic/sociological trap that should be a crime and does break my hear.

Indians on reservation should have the record of european microstates (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_microstates) which are generally very nice places to live. When you have sovereignty advantages (even partial ones) and are right next door to big neighbors who have decent lifestyles, you should be doing *better* not worse than your big neighbors. You can mold your rules to take advantage of local legal quirks and beat the larger entity. That’s obviously not happening by both sides accounts.

Something, I’m not quite sure what since I usually pay attention to different issues than this (I’ve got lots of rousing articles on E. Europeans climbing out of the holes that communism put them in), is seriously wrong with reservations. 65% unemployment in America is a crime and the prime suspects are the administrators of the territory, both on and off the reservation.

TM Lutas on May 14, 2007 at 06:13 am
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Ron Mexico, you were too easy on the liberal - 6 blocks east is the Capitol Hill district - average real estate values there are among the highest in the country.  Million dollar, 3 bedroom, 1500 sq. ft. townhouses abound....

Chris on May 14, 2007 at 06:30 am
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I am amazed by a couple of things in this thread.

The 1st is the long, long string of name-callers and “cute-comment-posters” who believe they can post their view in a couple of paragraphs of sour-laced words.

The 2nd would be the attempts by those who are representing the liberal side to deal with this original column by trying desperately to hold the column up for ridicule without offering any answers to the charges.

My view of this, from outside and far away, is that there appears to be a two-tiered problem on the TM reservation.....1st, those who are living in such a sad state of affairs involving unemployment, drugs, etc. while accepting vast sums of government money.

Once I get beyond that to the 2nd problem it becomes apparent that there is a tier of enablers on the reservation itself. Those in charge. It seems this group, perhaps more life-organized, and living a bit better, has become the group seeking to both offer excuses for the 65% unemployment, and offer platitudes about fighting the drug problem.... all-the-while continuing the cycle by trying to fight hard to perpetuate the government support which will wane in the face of their success.

Thus this group responds with threats to writers who name the problems. They wish to keep a lid on the problem and want NO outside offerings of free-speech-protected information which might threaten their kingdom!

If these leaders would employ a carrot-and-stick method of funding the citizens of their reservation in return for actually getting a job, dropping drugs, etc. they might see improvement.

Oh wait, that might end some of the government money!

OOPS!

Duke DeLand on May 14, 2007 at 06:47 am
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To me, it seemed as though you had already reached your conclusion and visited the reservation as “research” to document your existing positions.  No?

SanskritG on May 14, 2007 at 07:03 am

Come-on even many of the people that are complaining are saying that those things are happening on the reservation.


What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.


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The Whistler on May 14, 2007 at 07:08 am

SanskritG - To me, it seemed as though you had already reached your conclusion and visited the reservation as “research” to document your existing positions.  No?

Rob went there on a business matter and then blogged about what he saw. As for having reached conclusions,...well...63% unemployment kind of gives one some conclusions.

I have to thank you for the laugh SnakritG. You are complaining about assumptions while making your own.

likwidshoe on May 14, 2007 at 07:08 am

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i also think rob is a big effing hypocrite on this one because he is always stamping his e-foot, complaining that dissent is unpatriotic or that anyone who is critical of the botched iraqi war is a terrorist sympathizer. now he knows how it feels to have bullshit accusations leveled at one for being critical or questioning the power structures in place. in this respect he is very much like a lib. whining when people tell him to shut up (the turtles), yet running around telling others to shut up (the libs). it is kinda funny.


Yun Chu said, “You must strictly not express in words what is very significant. Both dragon and snake are killed in one blow.”

Sparkie Arbuckle on May 14, 2007 at 08:03 am

i also think rob is a big effing hypocrite on this one because he is always stamping his e-foot, complaining that dissent is unpatriotic or that anyone who is critical of the botched iraqi war is a terrorist sympathizer. now he knows how it feels to have bullshit accusations leveled at one for being
critical or questioning the power structures in place. in this respect he is very much like a lib. whining when people tell him to shut up (the turtles), yet running around telling others to shut up (the libs). it is kinda funny.

Wrong again, Sparkie; in both cases, Rob is dealing with partisan liars.  You just don’t get it, but then, that’s totally understandable.


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robert108 on May 14, 2007 at 09:16 am
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Linked via Instapundit.  I do not doubt that the writer’s description of the squalor is accurate.  Having lived in DC for decades, the poverty there has never been as bad. 

Drug abuse and alcholism and school drop out rates have been very very high on the reservations for decades and NO government program so far has been able to make a dent in these figures nor the unemployment and crime figures. The status quo is the worst of all possible solutions for the members of the tribes but almost optimum for those currently working for the government - be it Indian or Non.

I think the solution has to go deeper than cutting welfare. The problem stems from the fact that Indians today live outside of a culture… they are not part of the American culture - and Indian culture does not exist on many reservations.  Before anyone jumps down my throat, let me say that my grandfather was an honorary Chieftain of the St Regis Mohawks and I have read extensively.  The Indian cultures were based on migratory (following the buffalo) or hunting and gathering - a few notable exceptions were agriculturally based.  These ways of life evaporated along with everyday use of the languages.  The religious aspects were modified/changed even before English settlers came in any numbers - by the French and Spanish missionaries. For centuries Indians lived a life that was of a high aesthetic order and in great harmony with nature.  This Way of the Indian was reflected in their language and culture.  While it is important to know how it disintegrated over hundreds of years, if one wants to help the current living, breathing, and suffering peoples, the past in far less important.  Blame does not build a house or give impetus to providing a better life for your children.  Is it not better to encourage those who are not living well to enter the American mainstream? To belong to a real community rather than one that is propped up by government payouts and the occasional ceremony which no longer directly relates to one’s life? Obviously there are some communities that are successful (mainly the agriculturally based ones), but for most becoming fully fledged Americans would be the best solution.  (To all the naysayers - if our culture is so bad why do YOU live in it?  Leaving the US is pretty darn easy.) I do not live in my mother’s culture although I speak her language fluently and have high regard for her native land. I made the transition and so can others.

just a thought on May 14, 2007 at 09:20 am
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I’ve cross-posted this at Flickertail Journal. So I’ve read the post in question from Say Anything about the reservation.

Hmmm, where’s the slander?

Is is the writing about the neighborhood or the homes? Seems like a straight-forward description, but it’s eminently verifiable—go to the reservation with a digital camera or a DV cam. Interview a few of the residents. Take pictures. Seems like something someone could do.

Is the writing about the people—be it drinking, unemployment, or generational poverty? Again, seems like something that could be verified as true or untrue. A reporter with a camera and a tape recorder could talk with the people and get their stories, and see whether it’s true or not.

Now I suspect if I were to do these things (I’m 1200 miles away so probably won’t happen), I’d confirm what was written. That’s a shame because we don’t want anyone mired in poverty, but Indian reservations, having had a raw deal for the last hundred years, have been described this way by many. Some reservations have been fortunate recently in their ability to use mineral rights or gambling (er, gaming) to help their people, but some reservations continue to have terrrible problems.

Like this one.

But again, Ryan, you’re close to the scene—if the description is untrue, get a camera and a tape recorder and demonstrate that. You’ll end up with quite a nice blog essay to boot.

But I bet that isn’t the problem. It isn’t the living conditions. It’s that Rob pointed it out in a newspaper in a politically incorrect way. He pointed out that while government policies over the last hundred years have had a terrible impact on Indians, the Indians of today have the ability to start changing things. Again, look at those tribes and reservations that are doing so, and then ask why the Turtle Mountain Reservation has not.

It’s difficult to suggest change, and in particular, to look at a group of people and say, “you know, you bear some personal responsibility for this.” Most people don’t like hearing that a problem is partly their fault. Most people resist that and become angry. It doesn’t change the reality, but that’s how people react.

There are two problems: 1) government has made a hash of reservation life, and has done so for decades, and continues to do so, and isn’t fixing it, and 2) the people on these reservations aren’t doing what they could perhaps do to fix that.

Gosh, that seems obvious to me, but then, I’m not an ideologue.

Perhaps Andy L could tell us whether Rob was factually incorrect about what he saw—do the homes not look as described, are the people not as described?

What we’re dealing with is how people act when criticized. Andy L and the tribal leaders don’t like their problems splashed across the media, be that a newspaper or a blog. Officials in the Bureau of Indian Affiars and Dept. of Interior would take umbrage at being blamed. Ryan doesn’t like his progressive ideology being attacked (nor does Rob appreciate his conservative ideology put under the microscope). And if you were to ask the tribal members who formed the basis of Rob’s article, you wouldn’t be surprised to hear that they don’t like being described in an unflattering way.

So what do you do?

Fix the problem, of course.

And that means putting your anger and umbrage aside, looking at the problem in a reflective and careful way, and asking yourself, “does perhaps my ideology not conform with the facts that are in front of me?”

The BIA needs to get off the welfare plantation. Liberals and conservatives need to put down the blunt objects they hurl and each other and work together. Tribal members need to take responsibility for their own lives. Tribal leaders need to explain that to their members, and hold the BIA’s feet to the fire.

Try something new. Try something different. The same-old, same-old isn’t working. Change it. Put the ideology aside and get practical. Start changing lives. You won’t change all of them, but as the sociological theory of ‘broken-windows’ suggests, you don’t need to—changing some will inspire yet more change.

And yes, I’m being practical.

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i also think rob is a big effing hypocrite on this one because he is always stamping his e-foot, complaining that dissent is unpatriotic

Sparkie: Do you have any quotes on that? I don’t remember Rob ever having said that “dissent is unpatriotic”. I’d like to see exactly what you base that on.



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Proof on May 14, 2007 at 09:57 am

Steve: Rob didn’t threaten anyone; big difference.

Proof: Sparkie apparently bases everything on his BDS-caused reactivity.  Rob has never said anything like that.


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robert108 on May 14, 2007 at 10:01 am
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A few years ago I was working as a FEMA inspector and inspected many homes on the Turtle Mountain Chippewa reservation.  Rob’s “shocked” does not even begin to cover the deplorable situation there.  In fact, I’ve done inspections for FEMA and HUD in the worst neighborhoods in Detroit, Memphis, and (pre-Katrina) New Orleans, and NOTHING comes close to the abjectitude of the situation on the Turtle Mountain reservation.  The first thing I said to myself when I got home from my first day of work there was, “My God, it’s like a third world country!” Having grown up in Panama and having seen real, actual third world shanty towns, I know of what I speak.  I can see why the tribe would want to keep this secret, but Rob speaks the truth… sadly.  And no: I don’t work for FEMA or HUD any longer… thankfully.

Huckleberry on May 14, 2007 at 11:02 am
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If it isn’t apparent by now that Rob has offended some members of the Turtle Mountain indigenous people, you have your head in the clouds.

Oh no!  Someone got offended?  Stop the presses!  (Oh, wait...that’s what the tribal officials are trying to do, isn’t it?)

Everybody repeat after me:  There is no Constitutional right in this country to not have one’s feelings hurt. And may there never be such a day in the history of this great nation…

And for good measure, it’s very possible for someone in a bad state of affairs to be in said state because of poor choices that he or she has made.  Pointing this out is not libel or slander, and lashing out at the person who does so should be considered a “temper tantrum” as opposed to honest dialogue.

It doesn’t take an rocket surgeon to see…

Wow, this would be such an easy target if I only knew for sure that he wasn’t phrasing it that way in jest…

Kev on May 14, 2007 at 02:28 pm
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Ask yourself why was FEMA there?

Because of flooding.

Fema did not in anyway try to help tribal members with this natural disaster. They came ..they saw...and again neglected their job duties.

Xene on May 14, 2007 at 02:48 pm

If the tribes are really independent nations, then FEMA isn’t obligated to help them, isn’t that true?  And if they are independent nations, why should they expect Constitutional protection, in any form, much less for “hurt feelings”.  If you’re really independent, then be independent, and take care of yourselves.  If you’re dependent, then don’t get offended if someone points out that truth.  You can’t have it both ways.  Only a three year old expects that.


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robert108 on May 14, 2007 at 03:00 pm
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I’M baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack!!!
Rob, yes you are truly banned from the rez.  Read the Turtle Mountain Star!  Good Job Andy L.!  If he comes here, he will be jailed !! YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

Janel on May 14, 2007 at 06:06 pm
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Actually, Janell, that resolution isn’t binding.  There’s another committee (the exclusionary committee or something like that?) which has to review the decision and make a ruling.  And the chances that I’ll actually be banned are between slim and none.

So, nice symbolic gesture that ultimately means nothing, Andy.

I’m glad you’re so excited about it though, Janel, but think about what you’re supporting for a moment:

If I go on tribal land I will (apparently) be jailed.  Why?  Because I expressed an opinion and wrote about facts you and many others on the reservation find inconvenient.

If you’re happy about living in a society like that then good for you, but that’s not a place I’d want to live what with me valuing things like “free speech” and stuff.


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Rob on May 14, 2007 at 06:09 pm

I guess next time we get together we’ll have to find a different place to go then the Sky Dancer Casino.


What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.


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I wonder how Janel would feel if Gov. Hoeven ordered her not to come on “our” land because we all got together and decided that we didn’t like her comments on this blog....


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Rob on May 14, 2007 at 06:15 pm

Its like a mafia hit.
Expose the effects of corruption and get ‘whacked’.
Like all the dead witnesses found on their doorsteps all the time here in Rhode Island, the democrat haven.


Yun Chu said, “You must strictly not express in words what is very significant. Both dragon and snake are killed in one blow.”

Sparkie Arbuckle on May 14, 2007 at 06:23 pm
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Robert108 said:

If the tribes are really independent nations, then FEMA isn’t obligated to help them, isn’t that true?

Not necessarily Robert, the reservations have a “special” relationship with the federal government similar to the one that Puerto Rico has. Its a very complicated relationship and it varies slightly from reservation to reservation.

why should they expect Constitutional protection, in any form, much less for “hurt feelings”.

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