The Agitated Veterinarian writes:

While the WUO was right to oppose the Vietnam War, their energy could have been spent much more productively.

Their energy? What a crock! That’s like saying Jeffrey Dahmer’s culinary tastes could have been spent on a better balanced diet!

Imagine unloading that same euphemistic horse hockey on the Viet Nam war as “a waste of American energy, which could have been spent much more productively.” BS, AV. BS.

The “angry vertebrate” formerly the “anarchist vegetarian” who has never been nor shall ever be an “adept vocator” nor in any danger of being accused as such now claims:

You are effectively claiming that the Nazis didn’t murder Jews, Gypsies, and the mentally ill?

The Nazis committed genocide against the Jews and Gypsies and homicide against the mentally ill and homosexual. The Nazis, you should note, were not tried under German law as it existed at the time of the genocide and mass homocide.

Or that the Hutus didn’t murder the Tutsis in Rwanda?

That’s rather less clear since I have no real understanding of the laws of Rwanda in effect at the time. Homicide and genocide (as understood under the Nuremberg precedent) most assuredly.

These actions, like the Vietnam War, were state sanctioned but were still murder.

The former, yes. The latter (with the notable exception of the war crimes committed by the VC and NVA, viz Hue City), not.

There was[sic] no war crimes, or[sic] genocide, tribunal post-Vietnam War since there was no organization that had sufficient power to bring proceedings against those responsible.

It is indeed sadly true that the VC and NVA were never held to account for their war crimes.

But since the Vietnam War was in breach of international law (UN Charter and mandates, international treaties, and Geneva + Hague Conventions), then those responsible are certainly complicit in murder.

Make your case, preferably before a competent tribunal.

Proof,

Yep.

blackwaterboob’s issues are like that.

Rob,

Sic semper terrorist.

Four counting you Proof.

How gauche of me to point out trollish behavior!

Puzzled,

Do you have some sort of a personal vendetta against Neiman? If not, quit being an asshole!!!!!!!! As far as finding gays in Cali, walk down the street carrying a large cross or a sign saying “I voted yes on prop 8.” They will find you. Enjoy your trip, asshole. I am also a Christian. I admit I am not as forgiving or nearly as nice as Neiman.

Perhaps, Neimass, you can ask God if he will work with me.

Okay Puzzled: I admit am a very weak man as touching some matters, I often make mistakes in getting angry and intemperate and can without desiring to, be offensive at times and that to my deep and most sincere regret. God is working on me about those faults in my nature, be patient I need time just like God needs time to work on your life, otherwise working too fast He would destroy us both.

But, what people like you always do, which are both dishonest is two things: (1) You don’t hold anyone on the Left to the same Standards as those on the Right. You are not interested in Truth or Justice, just winning. (2) You forget that despite the frail character of any man, no matter how flawed he (I) might be, it doesn’t make the truth they speak any less the truth. An alcoholic can tell you the truth about the destructive effects of an alcoholic lifestyle better than the teetotaler. So, judge me as being bad, beneath you, a low life, whatever and I have no objections, I am often very guilty of all the accusations against me and worth being looked down upon; but for you to focus on that and not debate what I have to say, means you are either afraid of the facts or are unable to mount an effective, intelligent argument about what I have to say.

If you cannot respond to the issue at hand, why do you waste your time?

Wow, Di, it hasn’t taken you long to get the Say Anything rightie attitude. Neimass has long taken us to task and name called numerous times then falls back on his Christianity and plays the victim.

So defend him all you want. And really you are quite like Neimass.

Puzzled: I will sincerely pray for you! If nothing else, maybe GOd will deal with your hate!

Rob: I am not defending Ayers actions. The WUO actions were generally stupid and harmful in that turned people against them.

While the WUO was right to oppose the Vietnam War, their energy could have been spent much more productively.

Rodney: You are effectively claiming that the Nazis didn’t murder Jews, Gypsies, and the mentally ill? Or that the Hutus didn’t murder the Tutsis in Rwanda?

These actions, like the Vietnam War, were state sanctioned but were still murder.

There was no war crimes, or genocide, tribunal post-Vietnam War since there was no organization that had sufficient power to bring proceedings against those responsible. But since the Vietnam War was in breach of international law (UN Charter and mandates, international treaties, and Geneva + Hague Conventions), then those responsible are certainly complicit in murder.

Reno, Nevada?

I was born their jackass!

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Enjoy your trip, asshole. I am also a Christian.

It is just sad to see this guy believe his own lies. He works at a public college right? That means tax dollars go to this guy.

C.

Hey, Neimass, I’m coming to homosexual-California this weekend, where can I see me some of those folks. Can you tell them by just looking at them; do they have a marking so I can be on the lookout?

Hey, Niemass, you would know a scumbag is you saw one, he’s the guy who quotes the bible chapter and verse than attacks others which is also found in that bible you quote, right, Neimass?

wow, there are a lot of angry righties out tonight!

The sad part about Obama’s election is that it emboldens assholes like Ayers and Dorn.

Look at what is happening in California with the gays, and also what happened at the Church in rural Michigan where the gays stormed the church and interrupted the service.

Look for it all to continue and increase.

Notice how this dirt bag found refuge in the education cabal!

Proof,

sorry if i was the one who took it off topic. I was just defending what was said in this particular thread. I didn’t think it was too cool to keep attacking someone who wasn’t wanting to play. And I think attacking someone’s faith is low. Bob, you know I have been here only a few months. I don’t know all the back story w/ you and Neiman. I don’t know him. I was saying the behavior was assholey, he was trying to apologise.

LTM,

Why did I post twice, or why did I stay with the abusive husband? I left 9 times, had him arrested 12 times, was in the hospital 8 times, ICU 2 times, should have gone to the hospital-countless. some people won’t let you leave. They will find you. He only left me alone totally fairly recently. He started taking drugs and lost his job, so he couldn’t chase me across state lines anymore, too expensive. He is a total psycho. Hasn’t seen his kids in 7 yrs. Never paid a dime in child support. I don’t like to see what looks like an unfair fight.

My rote follows yours, Capt’n Jack.

Woof: To refresh your memory, the battle cry of the Weathermen was “Off the pigs!”(Kill the police!) Nice guys. /sarcasm

WOOF, noted moron LYING his Marxist ass off.
Not that I think you’d lie about fellow Marxists or anything, WOOF, but you just did, as usual. Besides the fact that the two died before they could set off their BOMBS that were intended to kill and/or maim service men and their dates accidentally, you must think their plan was to commit suicide.

You make we want to puke, lying MARXIST punk. Too bad the WU didn’t nail your lying ass. The world would have been a better place and you certainly don’t qualify as anyone, you waste of skin.

How is MARXIST a slight?

YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT VIEWPOINT THAN ME HA TAKE THAT!!!!

Ayers never killed anyone, that bank robbery was after the Weathermen had disbanded as you stated in your post, and though they plotted to they never did.

Perhaps your a proponet of thoughtcrime?

Are we not allowed to think about or consider violent crimes, does thinking about them make them true?

Prediction: GOP will retain controll of both chambers of Congress, handing the jackasses their fifth strait electoral loss in a row.

Rodney Graves on November 1, 2006 at 09:12 am

That wasn’t the question.

I’ll just take that as a yes, you lied.

Proof,

Dahmer’s culinary tastes? I loved that. Still laughing.

Nothing Bill Ayers could have done would have approached the sheer evil of the military’s killing of millions of Indochinese (in Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia).

The problem Neimass is that you go after people and name call and when called on it you feign the “I’m a weak and frail person” meme. You do it all the time and then you fall back on the bible to save you. What a joke!

I’m not looking down on you so quit playing the victim. You know exactly what you are doing at all times! You intentionally write the words you write. You mean the words you write.

And please, quit telling me God is working on this with you. Quit talking about being a Christian when in the very next breath you preach hate.

OCTOBER 20, 1981: BRINKS MURDERS
Sgt. Edward O’Grady And Officer Waverly Brown Were Killed When Former Members Of The Weather
Underground Attacked An Armored Car. “The slain policemen, Sgt. Edward O’Grady, 32, of Pearl River, N.Y.,
and Officer Waverly Brown, 45, of Spring Valley, N.Y., were said to be the first police officers ever killed in the line
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of duty in Rockland County, where the terrors of urban guerrilla movements and incidents like radical bombings
are as alien as foreign wars.” (Robert McFadden, “‘Weather’ Fugitive Is Seized In Killings,” The New York Times, 10/22/81)
Peter Paige Was a Brinks Guard Who Died Defending The Armored Car. “Speaking before Judge David S.
Ritter passed sentence, Mr. Gribetz said Miss Boudin came to Rockland County ‘knowing there would be a
robbery’ and that ‘other participants would be armed.’ Therefore, he said, she is as responsible for the death of
Peter Paige, the slain Brink’s guard, ‘as the person who fired the lethal bullet.’” (James Feron, “Kathy Boudin Given 20 Years
To Life In Prison,” The New York Times, 5/4/84)
Judith Clark And David Gilbert Were Sentenced To Three Consecutive 25 Year Terms For The Brinks
Murders. “Three radicals described by a judge as unrepentent and calculating killers were sentenced Thursday to
75 years to life in prison for murdering three people in the $1.6 million Brink’s armored car holdup two years ago.
‘I harbor no illusions about any of these defendants. They hold society in contempt and have no respect for
human life,’ said Orange County Judge David Ritter. He said the armored car robbery was ‘a cold, calculated and
deliberate plan.’ Society must be protected from ‘these defendants and the violence they represent,’ he said.
Authorities said the arrests in the Brink’s robbery blew the lid off a ‘family’ of terrorists. Judith Clark, 33, David
Gilbert, 39, and Kuwasi Balagoon, 36, were not in court when Ritter imposed three consecutive 25-year-to-life
terms for the murders and concurrent 12 1/2 -to-25 year terms for the robbery. But they were said to be listening
to the proceedings over

Who else was killed?

WOOF, you can start reading here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Weatherman_actions

Personally, I think any attention given to this tired old blowhard and his skanky wife is a waste of time. They had their extra 15 minutes of fame. Let them slink back under the rock they crawled out from under in peace.

And please, quit telling me God is working on this with you. Quit talking about being a Christian when in the very next breath you preach hate.

It isn’t it fascinating how you accuse others of hate and practice it yourself with such vigor? Oh, and when were you appointed to say what someone else can say at SAB? It sounds like tonight you are filled with rage, hate and are suffering from a serious emotional problem. Sorry for your serious emotional illness! I hope you get help and get better!

Yes I suppose that resisting Russian and Chinese-backed Communist insurgencies weren’t sufficient reasons for assisting the RVN, and all those dire warnings of what would happen should Communism prevail were just McNamarian fantasies.

Several Million dead Cambodians, Laotians and Vietnamese from the Killing Fields hence, it was more likely a Leftist Democratic Congress and White House that ensured that no harm would come to the WUO and that all those Draft Dodgers could come back to the USA without repercussions.

Too bad they didn’t exert the same level of efforts in looking after the interests of the POWs and MIAs we left behind.

It goes to show intent. Isn’t that a good enough reason? Come running at me with a knife, I can discern your intent pretty clearly. And I will dispatch you to the hereafter with 2 taps to the center of mass, bitch. Someone should have done the same to a lot of these assholes. A little rough prairie justice might be a good thing to make these spoiled brats come around to a more productive way of thinking.

Gman,

If that stupid RINO Asshat goveror in Cali would keep his mouth shut and quit telling them to keep fighting for their voices to be heard, that couldn’t hurt.

No dead.

Either they were the world’s most incompetent terrorists or that killing their fellow Americans wasn’t the goal.

Weather Underground members absolutely killed cops during bank robberies. They also plotted bombings to kill cops and soldiers at a dance at Ft. Dix.

That they were never able to follow through with these plans, and that their other attacks didn’t rack up a body count, is hardly a valid defense for these thugs.

What’s astounding is that the same morons who would call Bush a warmonger and criminal will go to any sort of rhetorical contortions necessary to defend scum like Bill Ayers.