Shocker: Study Claiming 45,000 Annual Deaths Due To Lack Of Health Insurance Based On One Interview

I posted about this study earlier today noting that the chief researcher behind it works for a single payer health care advocacy group. But now there comes to light some facts about this study that go beyond a mere bias. Apparently, participants in the study were interviewed once. They were asked if they had health insurance. If they said no and they died at some point in the future their death is attributed to a lack of insurance.
I don’t think I need to tell you that sort of methodology is what blogging professionals like myself like to call “crap.”

“Everyone in this room knows what will happen if we do nothing,” Mr. Obama said in his Sept. 9 address. “Our deficit will grow. More families will go bankrupt. More businesses will close. More Americans will lose their coverage when they are sick and need it most. And more will die as a result. We know these things to be true.”
Mr. Milloy believes the study will give Mr. Obama more specific numbers to use in order to ramp up public support for his plan.
“They are trying to create these factoids that they can beat opponents over the head with,” Mr. Milloy said. “They interviewed 9,000 people between 1988 and 1994 and asked, ‘Do you have health insurance?’ and if you die at some point in the future, they assume your death was caused by the fact you didn’t have insurance during that time you were interviewed.”
“That kind of stuff is classic junk science,” Mr. Milloy added.
John C. Goodman, president of the National Center for Policy Analysis, agreed that the study was flawed. “The subjects were interviewed only once and the study tries to link their insurance status at that time to mortality a decade later. Yet over the period, the authors have no idea whether subjects were insured or uninsured, what kind of medical care they received, or even cause of death,” he said in a statement.

Just to put that into perspective, if you told the researchers behind this study that you didn’t have health insurance and five years later you got ran over by a car they’d say you died because you didn’t have insurance. Not, you know, because you got ran over by a car.
If you told the researchers behind this study that you didn’t have insurance but then five years later got insurance but died because you got ran over by a car they’d still say you died because you didn’t have insurance.
But I’m sure that won’t matter to liberals like North Dakota state Senator Tim Mathern who according to his Twitter feed will be citing this study to his fellow Democrats at a policy meeting today so they can all sit around and nod sadly at the great injustice of our current way of doing health care. This isn’t about fact, for them. It’s about emotion.
And this study with its statistics fills their need for emotional fodder for this debate. Even if it’s entirely divorced from reality.
By the way, the CBO conducted a study similar to this and found that a lack of insurance increased mortality rates by only about 3%. And that number was consistent across income scales.
Unfortunately, that study isn’t nearly fantastic enough for liberal tastes.

Tags: , ,


«
»
  • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ proof_positive

    Nutters call it socialism

    Glad that socialism saved your husband.

    So it would appear!

  • docdave

    That study is a crock!!! No one and I mean no one is turned away at an ER center so saying that people died because of the lack of insurance is totally false.

    Just another lie from the tainted one.

  • sayanything-4625

    John C. Goodman, president of the National Center for Policy Analysis, agreed that the study was flawed. “The subjects were interviewed only once and the study tries to link their insurance status at that time to mortality a decade later. Yet over the period, the authors have no idea whether subjects were insured or uninsured, what kind of medical care they received, or even cause of death,”

    I sleep very well thank you. The study that they are pushing as a reason to “reform” health care is flawed. They didn’t event track if the subjects were insured, what care they received or cause of death. Why should I believe a study that fails to track cause of death? How can a fall off a 200ft cliff by a patient be used to argue of health care? You don’t really care though, you just wanted to come here and call people names. Good work.

  • sayanything-4625

    It’s that old maxim: Give a man a fish, feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, feed him for a lifetime.

    And if you set a man on fire he’ll be warm for the rest of his life!

    For the humor impaired that’s a joke.

  • jimmypop

    EVERYONE wants EVERYONE to have health care and jobs. conservatives want them to be able to afford to keep it.

  • Oswaldo

    Mr. Milloy believes the study will give Mr. Obama more specific numbers to use in order to ramp up public support for his plan.

    ramp up public support for the healthcare reform our country needs

    .. or do you think our perfect healthcare system needs no reform?

  • Neiman

    Conducting reputable studies on any subject and then producing a reliable, valuable end product is very difficult. I have been involved in designing several major medical research studies with highly reputable, some even famous medical doctors at places like Stanford Research Institute (Cobalt irradiation), Stanford Medical Center (cardiac studies), a major one of my own on prehospital emergency care, one with Genentech and several outside the country. They were all learning experiences in how to and not to design a study so that a reliable and valuable result may be produced. The above study based on my experience would be laughed out of the house by any intelligent researcher.

  • jimmypop

    I want people to be able to afford it for themselves, Jimmy.

    It’s that old maxim: Give a man a fish, feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, feed him for a lifetime.

    and thats exactly what i said.

    conservatives want them to be able to afford to keep it.

  • http://insanereindeer.blogspot.com/ Kenny

    .. or do you think our perfect healthcare system needs no reform?

    Opposing jonk science=hating truth.

    See where Oswaldo stands.

    No reform is better than Obam’s “reform”.

    If that’s the only reform I can get, I’ll take the status quo thanks.

  • 2Hotel9

    Polls are paid for, therefore the payee gets the results they pay for. That is how it always has been and always will be.

  • 2Hotel9

    Oh, osmoron? America has the #1 healthcare in the world. Now spew some lies for us, asswipe.

  • sayanything-2819

    Two stories.

    Husband, sick, just lost job, wouldn’t go to doctor because of no insurance. I insisted. Admitted to hospital for tests. Found stage four cancer. Surgery followed by 16 months of chemotherapy. State picked up costs due to gravity of illness and inability to pay. Husband, alive 25 years later.

    Brother in law, out of work, sick, wouldn’t go to doctor because of no insurance. Told my sister, take him to the emergency room and they will treat him. He refused. This went on for two months. Finally, so sick she forced him to go. Found he was riddled with cancer, with no hope of survival, even with treatment. Two months later, he’s dead.

    It wasn’t the lace of insurance that killed my brother in law. It was the lack of action on his part and the extreme nature and type of cancer.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/realitybasedbob/ realitybasedbob

    Sorry to read about your brother in law.

    Glad that socialism saved your husband.

  • sayanything-2819

    Ah, bob, you missed the point but that doesn’t surprise me.

    These stories illustrate that those in dire need already have health care. We do not need a government take over of the health care system to help them.

  • DINO

    Did you actually just print that Jvette? That your husband was saved by GOVERNMENT MONEY? Did I just read that right?

    The republicans would have DENIED your husband’s bills as would I since you’re a conservative that doesn’t want government funded health care.

    UNBELIEVABLE that you would admit to such a thing! You now join the ranks of the other SAB hypocrites who HATE government spending but benefit from it.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/realitybasedbob/ realitybasedbob

    Ah, J you’ve missed the point.

    With universal health care both men would have had access to health care long before the cancer took one’s life and nearly took the other’s.

    I’m very happy for you that my tax dollars were able to save your husband.

    Ain’t socialism grand!

  • DINO

    I’m very happy for you that my tax dollars were able to save your husband.

    I’m not. I would have denied him and all other conservatives a single PENNY for their health care.

  • sayanything-2819

    Ah, bob and dino, your lack of knowledge of conservatism and the difference between the STATE and the federal governments is astounds me even after I have read your contributions to this blog for months now. It shouldn’t but it does.

    Your insults do not pierce me as they are merely spitballs blown from the mouths of ignorant schoolboys who refuse to pay attention in class, opting instead to draw attention to themselves with their pathetic antics.

    You miss the mark again, boys. That the state covered the medical expenses of my husband is not socialism, it is the safety net that conservatives are willing to extend for real needs in times of crises, targeted, timely and temporary.

    I knew when I posted this that the two of you would respond in exactly the way you have, like Pavlov’s dogs salivating at the ringing of the dinner bell. Only it isn’t saliva you boys ooze is it?

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/realitybasedbob/ realitybasedbob

    That the state covered the medical expenses of my husband

    is exactly what nutters are screaming they don’t want. Call it state run, call it welfare, call it social security, call it a safety net, call it whatever you like. If you like the state paying for your medical bills you are not a conservative by modern conservative standards.

    Nutters call it socialism whether you like it or not.

  • sayanything-2819

    With universal health care both men would have had access to health care long before the cancer took one’s life and nearly took the other’s.

    Both men had access without a government take over. Pay attention.

    GOVERNMENT MONEY

    No such thing.

  • robert108

    Glad that socialism saved your husband.

    Since socialism is the ownership of the means of production by the State, the forced collection of money to be repaid later is not socialism; it is forced saving.
    More ignorance from uneducated little stem.

  • robert108

    is exactly what nutters are screaming they don’t want.

    Another lie from you, little a-hole shouter! Real Americans are sick and tired of having our money taken by leftie nutters for their pyramid schemes to enlarge govt. Once the money is taken, there is a contractual obligation that it be repaid when needed.

  • sayanything-2819

    is exactly what nutters are screaming they don’t want. Call it state run, call it welfare, call it social security, call it a safety net, call it whatever you like. If you like the state paying for your medical bills you are not a conservative by modern conservative standards.

    Nutters call it socialism whether you like it or not.

    Helping people in times of need is not the same as control of the whole ball of wax.

    Welfare, now there’s a shining example of what I mean.

    Conservatives give to charities that offer food to those who are hungry. The food is collected voluntarily, donated voluntarily and distributed to those in honest need. Those who collect the food or donate the food do not then follow the receiver home and demand that the food be prepared a certain way, or eaten at a certain time or who in the household may eat or even if that the food be eaten at all.

    But, government welfare demanded that a woman not have a husband in the home or even the father of her children in order to receive welfare. It demands that the mother not take any work in order to lessen her needs and allows generations to shirk personal responsibility for their own sustenance.

    It was a huge and utter failure of a system, a drain on the taxpayers and a hotbed of fraud and theft. I imagine to some degree it still is, even after the reforms of the Republicans in the 90′s. That program destroyed huge swaths of families in this country with the inner cities still mired in its grip and sinking ever further rather than climbing out of the abyss.

    Health care will be Welfare on steroids.

  • Senator Tim Mathern

    Driving from Bismarck to Fargo I appreciated the four lane safe and reliable highway as I went by the insured crop fields with people listening to the radio and able to read the traffic signs. Comforting to know all was possible because of public options! Government does work when we take responsibility for it. So it is in health care. Senator Tim Mathern

  • DINO

    Jvette, you are the most deluded stem we have here. The absolute winner of the Grand Prize for ignorance.

  • robert108

    Senator: Roads are one of the few legitimate functions of govt; welfare and subsidies for favored businesses are not legitimate functions of govt.
    Nice straw man, though.

  • DownriverDem

    You all miss the point. They lack health insurance. It bothers you they didn’t die because of it?

    How do your folks even sleep at night?

  • 2Hotel9

    Insurance is not healthcare, you fucking idiot.

  • sayanything-6955

    Mathern is not exactly a sharpie, it will not serve him well to lead the dunces to this slime ball study.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    I want people to be able to afford it for themselves, Jimmy.

    It’s that old maxim: Give a man a fish, feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, feed him for a lifetime.

Create a SAB Readerblog


Recent Comments

Powered by Disqus

Blog Advice and Support
Installs and Upgrades
Theme Modifications
Custom Plugins
Theme Design
Conversions and Relocations
Hacked Site Recovery
Mobile Apps Development