Shocker: Obama Is Ok With Guantanamo Bay Style Detention As Long As Its Not At Guantanamo Bay
I’ve long said that Obama’s promise to close down Guantanamo Bay would come back to bite him. If he doesn’t close it down he risks ticking off his left-wing, “blame America first” base. If he does close it in the fashion his base wants him to, he risks releasing hundreds of dangerous terrorists back in the world where they can take up their jihad against America once again.
His solution? It’s not entirely clear what he’s going to do with regard to Guantanamo Bay, but it is interesting to see that Obama doesn’t seem to care as much about the terror detainees at Bagram in Afghanistan than he does about the much higher-profile detainees at Guantanamo. Even though their status under the law is basically the same. Which sets up a situation where Obama could transfer the Gitmo detainees from Cuba to Afghanistan where their detention would be essentially the same.
Civil liberties advocates blasted the Bush administration for subjecting Guantanamo Bay captives to indefinite detention and for denying them access to federal courts. The outrage over Guantanamo Bay among President Obama’s liberal base and among the populations of certain United States allies (particularly in Europe) probably explains why President Obama’s first set of executive orders included a provision directing the closure of the controversial detention facility.
The Obama administration, however, has taken the position that Supreme Court’s reasoning in Boumediene does not confer habeas rights to Bagram detainees. This is the same argument that the Bush administration made. This logic, however, could support the capture and transfer of individuals to Bagram, where they could face prolonged and indefinite detention and denial of access to United States courts. Bagram could become the functional equivalent of Guantanamo Bay.
Just so we’re clear, Obama is ok with Guantanamo Bay-style detention. As long as it isn’t happening at Guantanamo Bay where it’s terribly inconvenient for him politically.
What this indicates is that, once again, Obama cares more about style and appearances than substance. I’ve always felt that the arbitrary shut down of Gitmo would be a mistake. If Obama shut down the detention facility and released the detainees I think he’d end up with the blood of those detainees’ eventual victims on his hands. But at least I could respect Obama for making a decision based on his principles.
What he’s doing now, which is hiding behind convoluted legal definitions and political maneuvering, is beyond contempt.
Sing for Obama, our fearless leader genius president:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9Xy4hNyYFs&feature=related
Our “articulate genius president”, and his teleprompter:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hSnEMV58F8&feature=related
LOL!!! You idiot! When Obama’s teleprompter fails he makes Bush look as articulate as Winston Churchill.
Teflon coating.
Clinton had one too.
Hopefully they will open up Andersonville again.
It is being rebuilt anyway.
Maybe we can find one of Wirz’s descendants to oversee the prisoners too.
What was the name Liberals used? Oh yea, now I remember… McSame:)
Kinda like he’s done elsewhere? Liking banning torture..then starting a commission to oversee whether he made the right choice, and potentially overrule his decision? Everything this man does is two faced.
Obama has always said Gitmo was a symbol of all the bad mistakes Bush had made. The authorization for torture and prisoner abuse. It needed a new face-lift.
We have gone over this before Rob.
Obama is a politician, making key political decisions. Bush could only dream of being so smooth and intelligent.
Hahahaha! You idiot!! Obama is going to trounce Bush, in historic terms, as an articulate President. He is already winning over our allies across the pond. Bush only created animosity and destroyed the relationships those before him worked so hard to foster. And all that, just by articulating a different vision.
Bush wasn’t eloquent, and it was obvious to anyone who wasn’t blind. Or who held on to Hollywood imagery of Cowboys.
GITMO is a Bush idea and a damn good one…so of course Obama must kill it
no logic here, just tossing the far left loons some tofu & sprouts to keep ‘em happy.
Zig, they have bestowed demigod status upon the Obama Messiah. The scariest part is that Obama appears to believe it, too.
Bring me pizza, I don’t care if its 850 miles away!
yeah…RR is consistent. He is anti-American every time. Why do these types stay in such a loathsome place? Surely there are lots of socialist/communist utopias just waithing for their blessed arrival.
The Guantanamo Bay detention facility was a terrible idea. It never should have been operational in the first place.
Obama is letting US down with his continuation of Bush’s occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan.
North Korea was so afraid of Bush after being named in the Axis of Evil, that they immediately started ramping up their Nuclear Missile development.
Bush was feared. Hahaha!
Now, what time does The Rifleman start? Or,what that Bonanza?
Will,
Yes, that blind giving over of freedom to the State has its precedent.
It seems that our resident Leftards have drunk deeply of that Kool-Aid.
Funny, you burrowed from the Bush worshipping video to make Obama look bad.
Here….do some warfare over Bush:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxdt_f0hwUg
Obama/Hitler Youth, It’s….Just so Beautiful
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdPSqL9_mfM&feature=related
Shyters like Obama always wind up painting themselves into a corner.
Yep.
Somali pirates, the Iranians, North Koreans, Venezuelans and Russians already love how he plays such a nice lap-doggie.
Of course, the Arabs love how he bows and scrapes before them.
Kevin that is an awesome picture.
no, its called learning the facts of a situation.i just wish hed do more of it.
Sure, hannityfan.
Bush = Cowboy, feared by our enemies.
Obama = Cowed Boy, sneered by our enemies.
Talk about waffling.
The enemy combatants will be released at the cessation of hostilities.
Al Qaeda and the taleban need merely surrender.
Meh….he had a block for a moment. Big deal. He doesn’t say the stupid shit Bush said all the time. Such as:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viYtFuMtuZc&feature=related
Yeah,,….he’s a real genius.
I give Rugby Reader credit for being consistent in holding Bush and Obama to the same standard.
I disagree with you in substance but at least one liberal in this thread was consistent.
I like it too. How did he not get any paint on himself since he has never done an honest days work in his life?
Ahh, hyperbole. Always an effective tactic.
This all needs to be publicized step by step side by side with their condemnations of Bush on Guantanamo. Let’s see what the MSM does to spin it then.