Shocker: Obama Administration Rules That Terror Detainees Have No Constitutional Rights

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Detainees being held at Bagram Air Base in Afghanistan cannot use US courts to challenge their detention, the US says.
The justice department ruled that some 600 so-called enemy combatants at Bagram have no constitutional rights.
Most have been arrested in Afghanistan on suspicion of waging a terrorist war against the US.
The ruling has disappointed human rights lawyers who had hoped the Obama administration would take a different line to that of George W Bush.
Prof Barbara Olshansky, the lead counsel in a legal challenge on behalf of four Bagram detainees, told the BBC the justice department’s decision not to reform the rules was both surprising and “enormously disappointing”.

Key quote from Obama’s Department of Justice:

Having considered the matter, the government adheres to its previously articulated position.

That previous position having been articulated by the Bush administration.
This is bad for Obama because it’s going to alienate, at least to some degree, his far-left base. But given that he’s still got a lot of love left with the media, and with all the liberals out there buying up Obama action figures and what, he can probably afford that.
But it is interesting to note the hypocrisy in this. Obama made a lot of noise about closing down Guantanamo Bay, because Gitmo was a political focal point for the anti-war crowd that was integral to his campaign base, and now that he’s President Obama is still making noises about closing it. But given his administration’s position on terror detainees in far-off Afghanistan, doesn’t that make it seem like Obama’s position on Guantanamo is more a convenient political calculation than an illustration of his true feelings on the matter?

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  • http://Array Hannitized

    Poor wittle Hotel. Him feelings hewt.

  • 2Hotel9

    Poor widdle sanni, its racebaitingpovertypimp days have fucked it out of any credibility. BooHoo.

  • http://massbackwards.blogspot.com/ Bruce

    I’ll go on record as praising Obama’s DOJ for making the right call, as soon as Obama’s numbnut fanbase admits that the man is full of shit, and that his entire campaign was (a) based on hollow, meaningless words employed solely to get him elected, and (b) devoid of anything resembling actual principles.

  • markm

    So…does this mean the Bush war crimes trials will run concurrent with the Obama war crimes trials???….that would be awkward.

  • 2Hotel9

    They are not Americans and have no Constitutional Rights. Never did. They are terrorists, and have no Rights of any kind, by their own choice they surrendered all claims to “rights”. Period.

  • 2Hotel9

    Oh, and terrorists have no Constitutional Rights.

  • Hannitized

    Prior to winning the election, that is.

  • http://godlessliberalhomo.blogspot.com/ libhomo

    People need to raise hell over this.

  • Hannitized

    And still Hotel can not find a link about Obama’s position on Bagram, prior to Obama’s election. Thus proving there is no hypocrisy, because they are different situations.

  • Hannitized

    You don’t even understand Obama’s argument about Gitmo anyway. If you don’t fully understand then you can’t make an accurate criticism of what is happening in Bagram.

    Obams is tasked with shutting down a symbols that paint false portraits of our great democracy. Guantanamo is a hated symbol of the perceived xenophobia of Bush.

    Bagram….well, that is a different story, isn’t it?

  • Hannitized

    But shame on him and all of the lefties that were wrong and obnoxious when GWB was doing the RIGHT thing.

    Where is the link about Obama’s position on detainees in Bagram?

    Anyone….anyone.

  • 2Hotel9

    Poor delusional sanni. Keep chasing that rainbow, its what makes you special.

  • Hannitized

    Foreign combatants have never had any constitutional rights in this country; the fact that Obama/Mugabe has only just now discovered that(even though he once masqueraded as a “Constitutional scholar”) is not only not “admirable”; it’s frightening.
    Then there’s his tendency to change his positions on everything when politically advantageous…

    Was there supposed to be a response to my question in that mess?

    Please provide evidence of Obama’s position on Bagram prior to his election.

  • http://norseberserker.blogspot.com/ Rugby Reader

    Bush was wrong about this. Obama is wrong about this.

  • robert108

    Where is the remarks how you agree with Obama, and that he made the right decision? Can you admit that, or is this more about hatred than rational worrying about letting prisoners go?

    H moron: Foreign combatants have never had any constitutional rights in this country; the fact that Obama/Mugabe has only just now discovered that(even though he once masqueraded as a “Constitutional scholar”) is not only not “admirable”; it’s frightening.
    Then there’s his tendency to change his positions on everything when politically advantageous…

  • docdave

    There has always been adage that the office of the presidency can shape the occupant. One can only hope that in the long run this will be the case with Obama.

  • 2Hotel9

    And terrorists still have no Constitutional Rights. Your Messiah says so.

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    This is bad for Obama because it’s going to alienate, at least to some degree, his far-left base.

    I don’t know that they would. They’re problems with the Bush administration was more due to hatred than any rational worry about how we treat POW’s.

  • robert108

    Was there supposed to be a response to my question in that mess?

    Yes; sorry it went over your head. Get an intelligent person to ‘splain it to you.

  • eneils Bailey

    For the far left, this is not one of those Obama moments they have dreamed about…

    For them, this is distressing in that it does not politically equate to: take me, make me, pinch me, hurt me, make me moan, make me cry type moments. Wake up, he is just your run of the mill political charlatan, not to be confused with characters in your wet dreams..

  • Hannitized

    Where is the remarks how you agree with Obama, and that he made the right decision? Can you admit that, or is this more about hatred than rational worrying about letting prisoners go?

  • http://magyartruth.blogspot.com/ Chief RZ

    Waiting for a similar opinion on enemy combatants in Guantanamo. Then opinions on illegal enemy combatants, then on their definition of combat.

  • 2Hotel9

    So, since your boy never took specific questions about specific locations, beyond Gitmo, and specific situations, beyond Gitmo, he can follow the Bush Doctrine to the T and thats okey dokey with you? Rrriiiggghhhttt. Tell us another good one, thats just too funny.

  • http://magyartruth.blogspot.com/ Chief RZ

    Or perhaps there is not enough welfare money left for lawyers to defend these illegals.

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    H Said:

    Where is the remarks how you agree with Obama

    Here’s the deal, of course he was right. But shame on him and all of the lefties that were wrong and obnoxious when GWB was doing the RIGHT thing.

    I think it’s funny as hell that the policies they demeaned are the only ones they can follow when they’re in charge.

    Now Obama’s said that he intends to close Gitmo. He doesn’t yet have a plan to do so. I think it’s quite likely that he won’t be able to do what he wants.

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