Come up with jobs that people with a normal size family can live on with health care and you will find people moving out of the system

Well that’s the point isn’t it. The longer you stay on welfare the harder it will be to work your way up to a good job.

On the other hand even that part time job at McDonalds can lead to a better job in the future. Employers look to how long you can hold a job and things like that when they make their decisions.

Holding people down is evil, but that’s liberalism.

And don’t forget that most of the money going to the bureaucrats in the welfare system that are doing jobs NOT worth doing.

People on welfare should be shoveling sand for eight hours a day. That’s an incentive to get out in the real world.

If a person could get a check while watching TV or a job shoveling sand they’d take the free money every time.

We need to require people to work, even if its at a make work job, in order to receive benefits.

That will give them the incentive they need to go out and get a real job.

You method of paying them to sit on their couch ensures that people will be taking advantage of the situation as long as possible.

There’s nothing wrong with tough love. On the other hand there is something deeply wrong with enabling self destructive behavior.

I should have added that these welfare recipients need to be subject to drug tests as well.

Come up with jobs that people with a normal size family can live on with health care and you will find people moving out of the system

Interesting! Not “Get a job with health care benefits, that would support a normal size family before you have one !”

They have jobs like those, Brad, they’re just not entry level jobs!

The first if there was actually a job shoveling sand for 8 hours a day to be had you would have people lining up to do it, but the fact is they don’t exist. Secondly in most states they aren’t getting benefits not to work. Welfare recipients are forced to go do crap jobs in order to receive their benefits. They get the equivalent of minimum wage, without any of the benefits of actually being employed. Most of the people would be happy to do these jobs for cash rather than benefits, but these jobs too don’t exist for people not in the system.

Come up with jobs that people with a normal size family can live on with health care and you will find people moving out of the system

You will always have people who abuse the system, no matter how tough you make it, but that is no reason to try and screw everyone else who want out but can’t get out.

Kids in India know their middle-school grades will mean the difference between indoor and outdoor plumbing. Kids in China know that their grades mean the difference between working with computers or picking rice.

American kids knw their survival is assured, so they have the freedom to be lazy.

Fo poor kids, that’s a dangerous freedom.