Shocker: Canad Inn’s Guests Don’t Pay the City Hotel Tax

The Grand Forks Alerus Center

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Financial Disaster on the Prairie

We all know that the Alerus Gang was desperate to get the Canad Inn folks to build next to the Alerus. I’ve heard that their incentive plan was worth up to 7 million dollars.
One thing they apparently got was an exemption from the city hotel tax. From the city council meeting minutes on September 8th.

There was some discussion relative to the Convention and Visitors Bureau and it was noted that they are receiving the motel and room tax and getting the full 3%. Council Member Christensen stated that the City is collecting 3% on rooms in the city, that 2% goes to CVB and 1% was collected for a period of 15 years to amortize the bonds which the City sold to pay for the facility that the CVB operates on Highway 2; those bonds were paid off in February of this year, and in the 2009 budget it appears that they increased their expenditures based upon the additional revenue that they would be collecting from the 1% tax ($230,000) and used for tourism, promotion or buildings; and would like the extra 1% to be reviewed. .
He stated that they also have $391,000 in a reserve account that hasn’t been designated, that the CVB has presented a 15-year plan for the repairs and maintenance of their facility and in 2010 looking for $103,000 – that there is more than enough money to cover the maintenance of the facility out of the $391,000 and to help them with that for the next 2 to 3 years – in 2004 City advanced $225,000 to CVB to help with additional needs. At that time suggested that it is appropriate time for the council to review issues of cooperation and communication and look at how they spend the additional sales tax dollars they are collecting and to address the future amount that they will be receiving when the Canad Inns is no longer exempt from paying the sales tax,

What’s shocking about that is that while the CanadInn doesn’t pay any hotel tax they and the Alerus are the main beneficiaries of the tax that other hotel’s collect from their customers.
Another part of the incentive package for the CanadInn folks was to spend a certain amount of money to market the Alerus and CanadInn. You’ve maybe seen the Alerus/CanadInn Grand Partners billboards around town. Those are paid out of the hotel tax that the EVERYONE in the industry Pays except for the hotel that benefits. You’d think that since they were the beneficiaries the CanadInn could collect this tax from their customers.
They don’t pay any property taxes either while they’re subsidized by businesses that do.
Crazy? Yes. Normal run of business to force some business to subsidize their competitors? Yep!

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  • http://Array Anon

    So, It The ‘Nad collecting the sales tax but are not required to pass it on to the gov? Is that the situation?

  • sayanything-2

    Make them pay it, plus substantial fines.

  • jimmypop

    “Yea, I don’t know. I do think it’s a topic worthy of more discussion.”

    yup…. i am guessing collecting a fee youre calling a sales tax, but actually keeping is a tad illegal.

  • sayanything-2

    Good point! NDBCI needs to frog march this whole crowd into interrogation rooms and find out exactly what is going where and into whose pockets. Involve FBI, that way each lie is prosecutable!

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    Exactly. The Alerus isn’t close to being successful. It’s all about ever
    more ever greater subsidies.

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    Curt sold his daycare and other businesses.

  • lock’em’up

    Yea, I don’t know. I do think it’s a topic worthy of more discussion.

  • ec99

    I’m aware of that. My point was that if it were going belly-up, he wouldn’t keep pouring good money after bad into it.

  • jimmypop

    they dont pay…. i wonder if they collect it?

  • ec99

    This is reflective of the problem when the public sector tries to run a business. In the private sector, when something isn’t working for you, you spin it off, as 3M did with Imation, Ceridian with Arbitron, and Pfizer with Mead-Johnson. The public sector, as evidenced by the GF city council, just pours more money into it.

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    I believe it’s on a slightly different point where there was money given
    directly to charity-businesses.

    But it’s all the same kind of corruption. Government guys picking winners
    and losers.

  • ec99

    Furthermore, the great paradox is that several on the city council own their own businesses. You’d better believe that if one of Gershman’s stores or Kreun’s daycare center were hemorrhaging the kind of money the Alerus is, they’d either close it down or try to sell it. But, of course, that would be their money that’s lost. They have no problem is losing our money to keep the Alerus going.

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    I believe the only tax then would be a 7% tax. The state 5% plus 1% city
    sales tax PLUS 3/4 Alerus Tax PLUS 1/4 Alerus hospitality Tax.

    They’re actually collecting 10% according to your figures. Maybe their tax
    exemption rolled off which would make my post more of a history thing than
    what’s going on right now.

  • ec99

    “Normal run of business to force some business to subsidize their competitors?”

    This is the equivalent of forcing Coke to subsidize Pepsi, or Target to subsidize WalMart. Notice Gershman dumped one of his hotels beforehand.

  • lock’em’up

    I called them. They quoted a room rate of $112 and told me the total would be $123 after taxes. She didn’t know what the taxes were for.

  • headward

    Isn’t there a lawsuit in Minot about this kind of behavior?

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    One thing they apparently got was an exemption from the city hotel tax!

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