Shocker: Boys And Girls Are Different

One consistent complaint from feminists is that women aren’t represented proportionally in the sciences, and professions having to do with computer science and the like. The usual explanation for this is some variation on the idea that we’re a gender-biased society. But rather than some grand conspiracy against the fairer sex by a patriarchal oligarchy, maybe the the gender gap is best explained by women simply having different interests and priorities than men.

This chart, breaking down AP subject exams by gender (source here) is pretty revealing:

Mark Perry has more analysis, but even without digging further into the numbers the differences in academic interest are striking.

Maybe there is a “gender gap” in some areas of study/academia simply because women aren’t interested in those areas. And should we even be concerned about that? After all, where is the outrage that men are underrepresented in the humanities?

The gender wage gap too can, in a lot of ways, be explained by this same divergence in interests and priorities. Back in 2010, when President Obama was proposing policies to address gender wage equality, I noted that men and women tend to have different goals in their lives. Men tend to put a higher emphasis on take-home pay from a job, whereas women tend to value other benefits such as health care, vacation, sick leave and schedule flexibility. Men also tend to work their careers more consistently, whereas women often take long periods of time off for maternity leave or to stay at home with children.

Put simply, men tend to find more fulfillment from their careers than women do. Women tend to find more fulfillment from families. One is not superior to the other. They’re different and, though it’s not politically correct to say so, complimentary to one another.

Studies have shown that when men and women have the same work backgrounds – including time on the job, experience and education – women tend to make more.

It is an article of faith among our friends on the left that we must have equal outcomes. Men and women must be paid the same. Men and women must be represented, proportionally, in all career fields. If that equality is not achieved, then bigotry and bias must be at work.

But there is a simpler explanation. Boys and girls are just different.

Rob Port is the editor of SayAnythingBlog.com. In 2011 he was a finalist for the Watch Dog of the Year from the Sam Adams Alliance and winner of the Americans For Prosperity Award for Online Excellence. In 2013 the Washington Post named SAB one of the nation's top state-based political blogs, and named Rob one of the state's best political reporters. He writes a weekly column for several North Dakota newspapers, and also serves as a policy fellow for the North Dakota Policy Council.

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  • HG

    You’ve made my point on marriage here.  The differences a man and a woman bring to marriage can in no possible way be equalled or mimicked by any same sex union.  Marriage is unique in this regard.  Marriage is not a union designed for same sex couples.

    http://hg.sayanythingblog.com/2012/02/09/rational-basis-for-distinguishing-marriage-from-same-sex-unions/

    • http://sayanythingblog.com Rob

      You’ll get no argument from me as to the importance of the family unit.  I’m just not sure what it is you think you’re accomplishing by refusing to acknowledge unions between people who have no interest in that sort of relationship.

      By your way of thinking, we should force men and women together into relationships.  That’s not how it works.

      • HG

        Completely wrong.  First, I do acknowledge and the law acknowledges same sex unions.  They are call domestic partnerships.

        Second, we don’t have to force anyone into relationships, nature takes care of that.

        • http://sayanythingblog.com Rob

          So you just want to be petulant about calling them marriages, is that it?

          Pretty childish stuff.

          • HG

            No.  Just accurate.  We should no more call a same sex union a marriage than we should call a man, a woman.  They just are not the same.

          • http://sayanythingblog.com Rob

            Says you, according to your definitions.

            To me, it’s a marriage.  Marriage doesn’t have to be man and woman.

          • HG

            Says all of history, tradition, religion, societies and etymology. 

            The word your grasping for is union, not marriage.  All committed relationships acknowledged by law are unions, but not all are marriages, just like not all are civil unions or domestic partnerships.

            Refusing to acknowledge the difference by calling all of these marriage is just intellectually innacurate. 

            You’re just plain wrong here Rob.

          • http://sayanythingblog.com Rob

            If the only argument you have is a petulant, semantical one I’m fine with that.

            Let the unions happen.  The gays will call them marriages, and you can call them icky unions or whatever you want.

          • HG

            Rob, be honest here.  Yours is the semantic argument.
            “To me it’s marriage” – Rob.  That is the sum of your arguement. 
            Mine draws on the distinctions and differences that make what we have always known a marriage to be.  Ignore the difference if you must, but don’t be confused. 

          • http://sayanythingblog.com Rob

            The problem, HG, is that you personallyhave a moral objection to gay marriage, and because of that you don’t want anyone else to call it marriage.

            “Petulant” is exactly the right word for that.

          • HG

            The problem is laid out in my arugment. 

            Your of course free to dismiss it, but it won’t change the facts as I’ve laid them out.

            I hope you understand how “To me it’s marriage” isn’t the least bit reasonable much less persuasive.

          • fedupny

             Are you that libertarian in which words only have personal meanings? Precise language is needed so that we can understand each other…we might as well be in Babylon according to your view.

          • http://sayanythingblog.com Rob

            In london an apartment is a flat and an elevator is a lift.

          • fedupny

             Ah, but in Britain there is no gay marriages. Are we looking to international languages now?

          • http://sayanythingblog.com Rob

            Just pointing out that peopleuse words different ways.

          • fedupny

            I understand what your trying to point out, Rob, but I think that you are missing my point. A common language is a bind that holds a people together in a nation. There are some discrepancies such as “soda” and “pop”, but these are words that have been used since the origin of the product. Marriage has had a longstanding and universal definition until relatively recently when a very small, but very politically active segment of people set out to change it. Occasionally words will pop up with new definitions as the language is monitored and these words are called slang. Are we to classify “gay marriage” as slang? I don’t recall that ever happening.
            This has been a systematic assault upon religious liberties and is along the lines of what the health care law is trying to do. My impression of your position, because of your libertarian and atheistic views, is that the word marriage doesn’t hold the special meaning it does to many people. You just view it as a legal term and you don’t care how other people may use it. The problem lies, IMO, is that they are not just privately using marriage, but are trying to change it in a very public way, thereby affecting others in doing so. As a libertarian, I would think that you be against that.

          • $8194357

            And while in Rome? Do as the Romans do? No wonders Barry needs international law experts on the SCOTUS like Kagen..
            But when your an international progressive “child of the world” and sitting in the White House you can’t play favorites for the nation you are suppose to represent, right? That would be so unfair!

          • $8194357

            They out flanked you HG..They call it “gender identiy crisis” now and it is a terrible thing to waste..

          • HG

            It’s absolutely amazing how riduculously stupid educated people can be.

          • $8194357

            Whats in a name Rob?
            Use your own argument on this..Why does the left always get to define the terms, meanings and debate?
            To make sure the out come is “pre determined” to their point of view or cause?

          • Bat One

            Why does the left always get to define the terms, meanings and debate?

            Because the liberal media always help frame the discussion to the Left’s advantage, and because too often, conservatives fail to appreciate the real nature of the battle and haven’t the stomach for the contest and instead prefer to be left alone.

          • $8194357

            I am a loner..I prefer it that way..I have been keeping limited engagement for decades as I have watched this big government over reach farce unfold…i have in the last 4 years broken my silence and will be quite no more..If good men do nothing evil flourishes…

          • http://sayanythingblog.com Rob

            Why do you get to define what marriage is?

            Honestly, I think the government ought to say out of it, and leave marriages to the individual.  Government ought to enforce whatever contracts individuals draw up.

          • $8194357

            (Honestly, I think the government ought to say out of it,)
            As do I Rob…
            Who is it that uses fascist tyrany to force “others” to their agendas and ideolgies? Conservitives? or Liberal idealogs and fascists? Under our Constituion the Feds were suppose to stay the hell out of this, religion, business, education, ect..ect..ect…(note all the unconstituional federal agencies) to cover the officle state positions and policies on these and every other area of life to control what a culture or society needs to function?
            These weren’t put in place by Limited power Constituionalist Christian conservitives but by liberal big government tyranists..This is why I keep saying under the Biblicle structure given by the founders of “all men” being given God given rights and Liberties we Christians were forcing no one to conform but the “individual” to make up his own mind and go his own way..Freedom “under” the Rule of Law “equally applied”..The men of course were flawed, but the concept. Biblical and divine in origines..God don’t mess with “free will”…The STATE does…

            We “evil Christians” just gave “everyone” the same quarantee He gave us…The freedoms and rights to choose…How has the “new American soviet structure” changed all this? The big government leftist “Majority rule over the minority democracy” rules of men above the “Equal applied rule of law” has given us this chaos we now see in America and around the world…The Big difference between majority rule democracy and a “Constituional Rule of Law Republic”..And thats why the left took over education and muddied the water, IMO…
            God Bless and Keep you and yours Rob, hear?

  • ec99

    The CEOs of Dupont, Frontier Communications, Pepsico are women.  Abby Joseph Cohen is a huge bigwig at Goldman.  Meredith Whitney runs her own investment firm.  If they set aside their personal life to get through the glass ceiling, they benefitted from it.  Many women don’t want to put in the 18/hr days, and then scream gender discrimination.

    • http://sayanythingblog.com Rob

      I think there’s a loot of foolishness about equal outcomes.  If a certain race or gender is underrepresented in a particular company or industry, etc. the assumption is racial/gender bias.

      But it may just be that different genders/races tend to have different interests and priorities.  Inequal outcomes aren’t necessarily due to bias.

      • ec99

        No, but it’s become the knee-jerk explanation.  The sense of entitlement in the US is so thick you can cut it with a knife.

        • $8194357

          getting millitant in fact…

    • mickey_moussaoui

      And you think men who achieve that level of accomplishment didn’t set their personal life aside?

      This is the flaw in feminist minset. They believe only women make sacrafices for success.

      • ec99

        That is my point.  Men did set aside their personal life.  Many women want both the personal and the promotions.

        • mickey_moussaoui

          Don’t we all. Everything comes with a price.

  • http://www.bikebubba.blogspot.com bikebubba

    The disparity in studio art drawing is especially revealing, at least if you ask the models.  Quite frankly, I’m surprised you don’t get more guys interested in the arts for this very reason.

    At least until you remember that you’ve got to draw guys, too. 

  • igx

    Over-homogenizing, centralizing,  and socializing every damn thing except for maybe law and language just makes the sum of the parts of society add up to less and I mean that in multiple senses. 

    E plurbus unum is a good concept that we should stick with, IMO. 

  • Bat One

    Where’s Larry Summers when we need him?

    • igx

      He’s a political class parasite, but he was right on this one. Reactionary simpletons are killing us. 

    • $8194357

      Where’s Larry Sinclair?

  • http://Sayanythingblog.com The Whistler

    I always wondered why there aren’t more babes in the computer club.  

    • Anna830

      HEY… but there are SOME!

  • mickey_moussaoui

    This is what Affirmative Action is used for. To balance
    the needs of those who feel they have been intentionally slighted by “white men”. That one racial group that will never get credit for doing anything good for humanity.

    • $8194357

      Social justice western culture tools of destruction, no?
      When does the perverbial playing field ever get leveled because of those darn white men?

      Marxists said mankind itself “could not fully mature to its full potential” until Judeo/Christian capitalistic western culture was destroyed “completely.”

      Kind of sounds like Satans agenda as well, no? My enemies, enemy is my friend? Where we hear this same crap before? Jihad perhaps. Stalinist Communism; for sure the Nazi’s…What common ground purpose do all these like minded haters of free market liberty loving western culture have on their agendas?
      They all desire to use fascist state force to accomplish their goals and they all claim Israel and America are the Imperialist agressors doing what in fact they are doing themselves….
      Go figure….

    • ec99

      Those who run AA will say to you with a straight face minorities cannot be racists, only white males.

      • $8194357

        Too true. I have been told that numerous times.

  • SigFan

    “Boys And Girls Are Different”

    And I, for one, am quite thankful for that. 

  • HG

    Liberals are divided.  When they argue for equality of the sexes and demand we ignore the differences between men and women, they are arguing with themselves.  For, in the next breath, they will argue special rights and accomodations be made for the same differences they want ignored.

    • Bat One

      You are suggesting that liberals are hypocrites.  That simply isn’t so.  Just ask one!

    • $8194357

      Liberals are conflicted as well…When they apply their Marxist critical thinking to the right they feel invincible but when you force one to use the same method for their own foot hold on life and they get offended and scream insults…fight fire with fire. “Make them” understand what they them selves are doing and where it comes from..The truth hits em like a God Bless you pours coals on the devils head…Alinsky dedicated and learned this from evil ideogies of communistic critical therory and he reconizes where it came from when he dedicated his book of rules to him…
      We can over come alot with Love…but it is time for “tuff love” with the current state of the union, IMO..

    • yy4u2

      That is spot on!

  • Oswaldo

    I’m for Good and against Bad

  • Dakotabound

    Well, the obvious solution is for Women’s Studies majors to make as much as brain surgeons.

    Oh wait, reverse that.

    Brain surgeons should make as much as Women’s Studies majors. See, all fixed!

  • jess

    Great post, Rob.  Boys and girls are different, and their uniqueness should be acknowledged respectfully the way you did in this post.

  • mickey_moussaoui

    Today’s boys are being feminized at an alarming rate due to the liberal standard of behavior.

    • $8194357

      Metro sexual is so cool…so non judge mental while creating non agressive harmless male role models…So “PC”….

  • Stantabeck

    Meanwhile women are over represented in colleges across the country :)

    My daughter put this to good use. She got a degree in mathematics and had a job two months before graduation. She scares the hell out of the geeks working there though.

  • Flamejob5

    IMO, motherhood has successfully been socialized. If you look around you, nearly everything that was once performed in the home by mom to benefit the family – child care, nursing, organizing, accounting ect. – is now a major player in the economy. Increasingly, if you want “mom” around your going to have to fork-out, for she is primarily a community mother now helping to raise our communal families.

  • Jamermorrow

    Another important statistic is that women that are not married, and don’t have kids, make about the same as the male counterpart. It is impossible to be a mother, wife, and put your job first unless the man decides to put the family first. Only so much time in a day.

  • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

    Rob uses a report from a gender biased society to conclude there can not be different results in an non-gender biased society.

    Rob clearly doesn’t understand that if the world didn’t have it’s gender biased stigmas, the results might be different.

    • HG

      Brilliant.  If there weren’t men and women, they wouldn’t be different.

      /sarcasm

      • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

         Rob used results from a gender biased society to make a determination about non-gender biased societies, which is a failure in logic.

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