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		<title>By: Seth Yantiss</title>
		<link>http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/sheehan_soon_to_be_single/#comment-288311</link>
		<dc:creator>Seth Yantiss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Her marriage was on the rocks before her crusade, and doesn&#039;t really have anything to do with the matter at hand.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Judging by her testimony about her first meeting with Bush, I&#039;d say the marriage was on the rocks then...


&lt;blockquote&gt;She blamed the stress of their son&#039;s death on their divorce.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Mark J. did you mean she blamed the &lt;strong&gt;divorce&lt;/strong&gt; on the &lt;strong&gt;stress&lt;/strong&gt; of their son&#039;s death?

Ryan,  I don&#039;t pretend to know what&#039;s going on inside this woman&#039;s head.  But I know that she&#039;s said some outrageous things, and I know that Casey had two parents.  The father, who has been rational, obviously knew his son too.  He now, wants to end his marriage after a VERY LONG time together.  This, to me, is telling of HER sanity.  I will put FAR more faith in what the father has to say than what Cindy opines.

We also know that Casey was in the military for 10 years.  I have to think that he knew what he was doing.  

Don&#039;t get me wrong though...  If you Join the military PRIOR to some military action, I think you are fully within your rights to oppose action if you think it unjust.  I don&#039;t want the military to fully support a commander and chief that acts without reason or justification.  

I believe that we had both for Iraq, before everyone comes unglued.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Her marriage was on the rocks before her crusade, and doesn&#8217;t really have anything to do with the matter at hand.</p></blockquote>
<p>Judging by her testimony about her first meeting with Bush, I&#8217;d say the marriage was on the rocks then&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>She blamed the stress of their son&#8217;s death on their divorce.</p></blockquote>
<p>Mark J. did you mean she blamed the <strong>divorce</strong> on the <strong>stress</strong> of their son&#8217;s death?</p>
<p>Ryan,  I don&#8217;t pretend to know what&#8217;s going on inside this woman&#8217;s head.  But I know that she&#8217;s said some outrageous things, and I know that Casey had two parents.  The father, who has been rational, obviously knew his son too.  He now, wants to end his marriage after a VERY LONG time together.  This, to me, is telling of HER sanity.  I will put FAR more faith in what the father has to say than what Cindy opines.</p>
<p>We also know that Casey was in the military for 10 years.  I have to think that he knew what he was doing.  </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong though&#8230;  If you Join the military PRIOR to some military action, I think you are fully within your rights to oppose action if you think it unjust.  I don&#8217;t want the military to fully support a commander and chief that acts without reason or justification.  </p>
<p>I believe that we had both for Iraq, before everyone comes unglued.</p>
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		<title>By: Seth Williams</title>
		<link>http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/sheehan_soon_to_be_single/#comment-288312</link>
		<dc:creator>Seth Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carrick: that&#039;s more than a little bit cool. You should submit a post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carrick: that&#8217;s more than a little bit cool. You should submit a post!</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/sheehan_soon_to_be_single/#comment-288313</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>likwidshoe,

I know Cindy Sheehan didn&#039;t know her son as well as, say, Michell Malkin or you or most of the right-wing bloggers, but can we give her a little benefit of the doubt and assume she knew why her own son would re-enlist in the military?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>likwidshoe,</p>
<p>I know Cindy Sheehan didn&#8217;t know her son as well as, say, Michell Malkin or you or most of the right-wing bloggers, but can we give her a little benefit of the doubt and assume she knew why her own son would re-enlist in the military?</p>
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		<title>By: MikeAdamson</title>
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		<dc:creator>MikeAdamson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Classy post Seth. I&#039;m not sure what Sheehan&#039;s marital status has to do with the story but I&#039;m sure it has relevance somehow. I felt that the interest in Judge Roberts&#039; children was equally sleazy but it&#039;s good to know that commentary appropriate to the National Enquirer is not exclusive to the Left.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Classy post Seth. I&#8217;m not sure what Sheehan&#8217;s marital status has to do with the story but I&#8217;m sure it has relevance somehow. I felt that the interest in Judge Roberts&#8217; children was equally sleazy but it&#8217;s good to know that commentary appropriate to the National Enquirer is not exclusive to the Left.</p>
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		<title>By: Seth Yantiss</title>
		<link>http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/sheehan_soon_to_be_single/#comment-288315</link>
		<dc:creator>Seth Yantiss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ryan,
&lt;blockquote&gt;I know Cindy Sheehan didn&#039;t know her son as well as, say, Michell Malkin or you or most of the right-wing bloggers...&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Do you suppose his &lt;strong&gt;DAD&lt;/strong&gt; knew him?  His father wants nothing to do with Cindy...   MAYBE THAT&#039;S WHY I POSTED THIS?????????????????????????????????????????????????

Why is it so hard to get through to you people??!?!?!?!

Uh...  we can&#039;t question Cindy...  she&#039;s grieving...  She lost her Son...

So did his &lt;strong&gt;father&lt;/strong&gt;!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ryan,</p>
<blockquote><p>I know Cindy Sheehan didn&#8217;t know her son as well as, say, Michell Malkin or you or most of the right-wing bloggers&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>Do you suppose his <strong>DAD</strong> knew him?  His father wants nothing to do with Cindy&#8230;   MAYBE THAT&#8217;S WHY I POSTED THIS?????????????????????????????????????????????????</p>
<p>Why is it so hard to get through to you people??!?!?!?!</p>
<p>Uh&#8230;  we can&#8217;t question Cindy&#8230;  she&#8217;s grieving&#8230;  She lost her Son&#8230;</p>
<p>So did his <strong>father</strong>!</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon</title>
		<link>http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/sheehan_soon_to_be_single/#comment-288316</link>
		<dc:creator>Brandon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Casey Sheehan did not re-enlist because he supported the war.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And as evidence, Ryan presents us this:

&lt;blockquote&gt;    BuzzFlash: Casey, as I understand it, technically did not have to go to Iraq since he was a field mechanic. Is that correct?

    Cindy Sheehan: He was a Humvee mechanic. He re-enlisted in August of 2003 because he didn&#039;t want his buddies to do the job by themselves. It&#039;s all about what they&#039;re doing now -- our soldiers are trying to keep themselves alive and trying to keep each other alive at this point right now.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Hmm, I don&#039;t see any quote from specifically saying that he was against the war. Nevermind that while Cindy is his mother, she has done little in the past week to prove that her opinions on what her son&#039;s reasons for re-enlisting are objective enough to be believed.

It could be because she&#039;s still in a state of grief or because of her left-wing, anti-war tendencies, or she could be telling the truth. We don&#039;t really know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Casey Sheehan did not re-enlist because he supported the war.</p></blockquote>
<p>And as evidence, Ryan presents us this:</p>
<blockquote><p>    BuzzFlash: Casey, as I understand it, technically did not have to go to Iraq since he was a field mechanic. Is that correct?</p>
<p>    Cindy Sheehan: He was a Humvee mechanic. He re-enlisted in August of 2003 because he didn&#8217;t want his buddies to do the job by themselves. It&#8217;s all about what they&#8217;re doing now &#8212; our soldiers are trying to keep themselves alive and trying to keep each other alive at this point right now.</p></blockquote>
<p>Hmm, I don&#8217;t see any quote from specifically saying that he was against the war. Nevermind that while Cindy is his mother, she has done little in the past week to prove that her opinions on what her son&#8217;s reasons for re-enlisting are objective enough to be believed.</p>
<p>It could be because she&#8217;s still in a state of grief or because of her left-wing, anti-war tendencies, or she could be telling the truth. We don&#8217;t really know.</p>
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		<title>By: likwidshoe</title>
		<link>http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/sheehan_soon_to_be_single/#comment-288317</link>
		<dc:creator>likwidshoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I felt that the interest in Judge Roberts&#039; children was equally sleazy but it&#039;s good to know that commentary appropriate to the National Enquirer is not exclusive to the Left.&lt;/i&gt;

John Robert&#039;s children = not political.  Cindy Sheehan&#039;s separation = political.  You know why?  Because she has said that the stress of her son&#039;s death lead to the divorce.  She blames George Bush for her son&#039;s death.  Hence, political!

I&#039;m always here to spoon feed ya if you need it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I felt that the interest in Judge Roberts&#8217; children was equally sleazy but it&#8217;s good to know that commentary appropriate to the National Enquirer is not exclusive to the Left.</i></p>
<p>John Robert&#8217;s children = not political.  Cindy Sheehan&#8217;s separation = political.  You know why?  Because she has said that the stress of her son&#8217;s death lead to the divorce.  She blames George Bush for her son&#8217;s death.  Hence, political!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m always here to spoon feed ya if you need it.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carrick,

Re the &quot;stupid shit coming out of her mouth&quot;: &quot;There is no Consitution&quot; is not anywhere in that link you posted.  It wasn&#039;t &quot;We&#039;re the only country without checks and balances.&quot;  The &quot;We have no checks and balances in this country&quot; comment is just rhetorical -- it&#039;s hyperbole, a literary device designed to enhance the point of the comment being made through embellishment.  She uses it several times throughout.

Full quotes from the speech:

&lt;blockquote&gt; When Congress gave George Bush the right to go to war, they abrogated their constitutional responsibilities and they basically made our constitution null and void. We have no checks and balances in this country. We have no recourse. If they&#039;re going to what they did to Lynne, they don&#039;t have backs they call names, what we need to be is, we the people, we&#039;re their checks and balances. We&#039;re the only checks and balances. We have to stand up and say, Not only is this our school, this is our country. We want our country back and, if we have to impeach everybody from George Bush down to the person who picks up dog shit in Washington, we will impeach all those people. Our country needs to {unintelligible} we need to start over again.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;What they&#039;re saying, too, is like, it&#039;s okay for Israel to have nuclear weapons. But Iran or Syria better not get nuclear weapons. It&#039;s okay for the United States to have nuclear weapons. It&#039;s okay for the countries that we say it&#039;s okay for. We are waging a nuclear war in Iraq right now. That country is contaminated. It will be contaminated for practically eternity now. It&#039;s okay for them to have them, but Iran or Syria can&#039;t have them. It&#039;s okay for Israel to occupy Palestine, but it&#039;s -- yeah -- and it&#039;s okay for Iraq to occupy -- I mean, for the United States to occupy Iraq, but it&#039;s not okay for Syria to be in Lebanon. They&#039;re a bunch of fucking hypocrites! And we need to, we just need to rise up. We need a revolution and make it be peaceful and make it be loving and let&#039;s just show them all the love we have for humanity because we want to stop the inhumane slaughter.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Now, if you want to call her anti-Jewish because she doesn&#039;t approve of the administration&#039;s policies towards Israel, whatever.  I guess I&#039;m anti-Darfur because I thought maybe the administration should have tried to stop the genocide, and I disagreed with the policy of not doing anything.  Etc, etc, etc.  Yes, this is a silly, stupid argument, but so is calling her a Jewish-conspiracy nut.

Re Cindy as a psychologically manipulative hag: What else am I supposed to conjecture you think of her?  She&#039;s an anti-Semite, a looney, she&#039;s &quot;hurting her family&quot; (you said that one), she&#039;s saying terrible, awkward things, her husband is divorcing her (put that laundry up on the front page!)...

Everything I&#039;ve read suggests you believe she has ulterior motives -- you said, in another comments thread -- that you were questioning her motives.

Re Cindy&#039;s crusade is bullshit: 
You&#039;re right.  Sheehan should just shut up, read the resolution authorizing Bush to go to war, as Goldstein suggested, take everything Bush has ever said as true without questioning him whatsoever, and then go home.  That will answer all her questions about why her son died.

Of course, any lingering questions about the neo-cons&#039; strategy for worldwide influence or the evidence that Bush was planning to invade Iraq since day 1 and used 9/11 to justify his actions are &quot;utter bullshit,&quot; right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carrick,</p>
<p>Re the &#8220;stupid shit coming out of her mouth&#8221;: &#8220;There is no Consitution&#8221; is not anywhere in that link you posted.  It wasn&#8217;t &#8220;We&#8217;re the only country without checks and balances.&#8221;  The &#8220;We have no checks and balances in this country&#8221; comment is just rhetorical &#8212; it&#8217;s hyperbole, a literary device designed to enhance the point of the comment being made through embellishment.  She uses it several times throughout.</p>
<p>Full quotes from the speech:</p>
<blockquote><p> When Congress gave George Bush the right to go to war, they abrogated their constitutional responsibilities and they basically made our constitution null and void. We have no checks and balances in this country. We have no recourse. If they&#8217;re going to what they did to Lynne, they don&#8217;t have backs they call names, what we need to be is, we the people, we&#8217;re their checks and balances. We&#8217;re the only checks and balances. We have to stand up and say, Not only is this our school, this is our country. We want our country back and, if we have to impeach everybody from George Bush down to the person who picks up dog shit in Washington, we will impeach all those people. Our country needs to {unintelligible} we need to start over again.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>What they&#8217;re saying, too, is like, it&#8217;s okay for Israel to have nuclear weapons. But Iran or Syria better not get nuclear weapons. It&#8217;s okay for the United States to have nuclear weapons. It&#8217;s okay for the countries that we say it&#8217;s okay for. We are waging a nuclear war in Iraq right now. That country is contaminated. It will be contaminated for practically eternity now. It&#8217;s okay for them to have them, but Iran or Syria can&#8217;t have them. It&#8217;s okay for Israel to occupy Palestine, but it&#8217;s &#8212; yeah &#8212; and it&#8217;s okay for Iraq to occupy &#8212; I mean, for the United States to occupy Iraq, but it&#8217;s not okay for Syria to be in Lebanon. They&#8217;re a bunch of fucking hypocrites! And we need to, we just need to rise up. We need a revolution and make it be peaceful and make it be loving and let&#8217;s just show them all the love we have for humanity because we want to stop the inhumane slaughter.</p></blockquote>
<p>Now, if you want to call her anti-Jewish because she doesn&#8217;t approve of the administration&#8217;s policies towards Israel, whatever.  I guess I&#8217;m anti-Darfur because I thought maybe the administration should have tried to stop the genocide, and I disagreed with the policy of not doing anything.  Etc, etc, etc.  Yes, this is a silly, stupid argument, but so is calling her a Jewish-conspiracy nut.</p>
<p>Re Cindy as a psychologically manipulative hag: What else am I supposed to conjecture you think of her?  She&#8217;s an anti-Semite, a looney, she&#8217;s &#8220;hurting her family&#8221; (you said that one), she&#8217;s saying terrible, awkward things, her husband is divorcing her (put that laundry up on the front page!)&#8230;</p>
<p>Everything I&#8217;ve read suggests you believe she has ulterior motives &#8212; you said, in another comments thread &#8212; that you were questioning her motives.</p>
<p>Re Cindy&#8217;s crusade is bullshit:<br />
You&#8217;re right.  Sheehan should just shut up, read the resolution authorizing Bush to go to war, as Goldstein suggested, take everything Bush has ever said as true without questioning him whatsoever, and then go home.  That will answer all her questions about why her son died.</p>
<p>Of course, any lingering questions about the neo-cons&#8217; strategy for worldwide influence or the evidence that Bush was planning to invade Iraq since day 1 and used 9/11 to justify his actions are &#8220;utter bullshit,&#8221; right?</p>
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		<title>By: Seth Yantiss</title>
		<link>http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/sheehan_soon_to_be_single/#comment-288319</link>
		<dc:creator>Seth Yantiss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only a few hours till dark over there, yeah?</description>
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		<title>By: Carrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We don&#039;t know for a fact that the divorce was caused by Cindy&#039;s public behavior, but  the timing certainly is suspicious.  You don&#039;t think it crossed the mind of her soon-to-be ex-husband that his filing for divorce would be regarded as a condemnation of Cindy&#039;s public behavior?  There is no reason, after all, for him to have chosen this moment to file divorce papers

 I&#039;m not saying it&#039;s impossible that its unrelated, but frankly it doesn&#039;t speak well towards his attitude of Cindy or her political posturing.   Nor do I blame Seth for feeling a twinge of shaudenfreuden over her discomfiture on this... especially after all of the generally nasty things that have come out of her mouth recently.

It also seems to me unlikely that Casey would have reenlisted for something that he did not believe in, regardless of how many of his buddies reenlisted to start with.  Now you can think otherwise if you like, but please don&#039;t use Cindy Sheehan as a primary source---regardless of her marital status---if you want to retain a shred of credibility.  

To me, the timing of the filing for divorce was clearly meant to send a signal, just as her son reenlisting has sent a clear message of his commitment to a process.  This young man gave his last full measure of devotion to his country, and it is a mystery to me that you want to sanctify his moonbat mother while trying to minimizing the significance of his sacrifice.  She lost her son, but he &lt;i&gt;gave&lt;/i&gt; his life.

I don&#039;t happen to think that the divorce per se is my business, but since Cindy&#039;s ex has not communicated his attitude towards her loopy self, this will have to do in a pinch as his attitude towards his ex-wife and the public circus she has created around her son&#039;s death.

The creepy spectacle of the hordes of antiwar protesters who are trying to ride the Cindy Sheehan story to further their ambitions is certainly one of the more bizarre twists of the entire Iraq conflict.  They have done nothing to raise their level of credibility with the general public, and likely have hurt themselves far more than the publicity has helped them.

I don&#039;t think it is necessary for the right-wing blogs to &quot;go after Cindy&quot; on this one, after all she is doing quite a good job of discrediting her own bizarre little self.  On the other hand, I see nothing whatsoever wrong with them giving her speeches and her generally moonbat behavior a proper and thorough fisking.   It&#039;s a free country, thanks to heroes like Casey.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We don&#8217;t know for a fact that the divorce was caused by Cindy&#8217;s public behavior, but  the timing certainly is suspicious.  You don&#8217;t think it crossed the mind of her soon-to-be ex-husband that his filing for divorce would be regarded as a condemnation of Cindy&#8217;s public behavior?  There is no reason, after all, for him to have chosen this moment to file divorce papers</p>
<p> I&#8217;m not saying it&#8217;s impossible that its unrelated, but frankly it doesn&#8217;t speak well towards his attitude of Cindy or her political posturing.   Nor do I blame Seth for feeling a twinge of shaudenfreuden over her discomfiture on this&#8230; especially after all of the generally nasty things that have come out of her mouth recently.</p>
<p>It also seems to me unlikely that Casey would have reenlisted for something that he did not believe in, regardless of how many of his buddies reenlisted to start with.  Now you can think otherwise if you like, but please don&#8217;t use Cindy Sheehan as a primary source&#8212;regardless of her marital status&#8212;if you want to retain a shred of credibility.  </p>
<p>To me, the timing of the filing for divorce was clearly meant to send a signal, just as her son reenlisting has sent a clear message of his commitment to a process.  This young man gave his last full measure of devotion to his country, and it is a mystery to me that you want to sanctify his moonbat mother while trying to minimizing the significance of his sacrifice.  She lost her son, but he <i>gave</i> his life.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t happen to think that the divorce per se is my business, but since Cindy&#8217;s ex has not communicated his attitude towards her loopy self, this will have to do in a pinch as his attitude towards his ex-wife and the public circus she has created around her son&#8217;s death.</p>
<p>The creepy spectacle of the hordes of antiwar protesters who are trying to ride the Cindy Sheehan story to further their ambitions is certainly one of the more bizarre twists of the entire Iraq conflict.  They have done nothing to raise their level of credibility with the general public, and likely have hurt themselves far more than the publicity has helped them.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think it is necessary for the right-wing blogs to &#8220;go after Cindy&#8221; on this one, after all she is doing quite a good job of discrediting her own bizarre little self.  On the other hand, I see nothing whatsoever wrong with them giving her speeches and her generally moonbat behavior a proper and thorough fisking.   It&#8217;s a free country, thanks to heroes like Casey.</p>
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