Sheehan Canned At State Of The Union

  •  February 1, 2006

AP – Cindy Sheehan, the mother of a fallen soldier in Iraq who reinvigorated the anti-war movement, was arrested and removed from the House gallery Tuesday night just before President Bush’s State of the Union address, a police spokeswoman said.
Sheehan, who had been invited to attend the speech by Rep. Lynn Woolsey, D-Calif., was charged with demonstrating in the Capitol building, a misdemeanor, said Capitol Police Sgt. Kimberly Schneider. Sheehan was taken in handcuffs to police headquarters a few blocks away and her case was processed as Bush spoke.
Schneider said Sheehan had worn a T-shirt with an anti-war slogan to the speech and covered it up until she took her seat. Police warned her that such displays were not allowed, but she did not respond, the spokeswoman said.
Police handcuffed Sheehan and removed her from the gallery before Bush arrived. Sheehan was to be released on her own recognizance, Schneider said.
“I’m proud that Cindy’s my guest tonight,” Woolsey said in an interview before the speech. “She has made a difference in the debate to bring our troops home from Iraq.”

Had it been up to me I’m not sure I would even have let her in. This woman was just down in Venezuela kissing a man who is not a friend to this country. She stood next to that man and called our President an illegitimate leader and a terrorist. This woman was no spectator, she was a security threat.
Of course, now she’ll be martyred. Her apologists will cripe about the “crushing of dissent” and the violation of her free speech rights. Which is total nonsense, of course. Cindy Sheehan gets plenty of opportunities to speak her mind. She’s been in the headlines for months now. Tonight was not her night to make a statement. Tonight was the President’s turn, and she had no right to be disruptive.
And shame on Rep. Woolsey for giving Cindy Sheehan the invite.  Clearly this was a stunt aimed at disrupting the President’s speech, and it certainly isn’t the first time Democrats have employed this sort of tactic.  It is bad enough that Rep. Woolsey would lend credence to the kind of vile, vicious rhetroric spewed by Cindy Sheehan but to invite such a loose cannon into a Presidential speech with the clear intent on disrupting it is beyond the pale.
Get in touch with Rep. Woolsey here and tell her what you think about members of Congress who can’t show at least a modicum of respect for the President.

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  • http://Array Jerry McIntyre

    It is interesting to read comments which both criticize and defend George W. Bush. I am retired. I supported, campaigned for, contributed substantially and voted for Bush during his first bid for the oval office. He had not been in office for six months before having violated every plank in the Republican Party Platform, upon which he ran.
    It was obvious from the ‘Git Go’ that this person was not a ‘Leader.’ He is the Dupe of large industry, primarily the energy industry, for whom Dick Cheney (Bush’s immediate boss) is the ‘front man.’ Those who are nothing more than ‘dyed in the wool Republicans, without the will or the interest to learn the facts, will agree with every ounce of SPIN distributed by the administration.

    I am retired. I have the time, AND the interest, in learning the facts. What I have discovered about the president of the United States is not only alarming, it is cause to make a person furious.

    One post stated “She Broke The Law and should therefore be arrested.” George W. Bush continue’s to break the law, at will, and with impunity. This country is beginning to experience what the unsuspecting German population experienced prior to WW II. A Power Hungry individual convinced the citizens that they would have to sacrifice some of their liberties in order to assure that Germany remained a Great Country. Those who ‘believe’ this tripe, are poor, uninformed citizens who take the word of any politician in their party. This is scary.

    The only argument for not impeaching George W. Bush is….. his boss would become president and things could disentigrate at an even faster pace. Wake Up America. Your freedom is being taken from you and you are too uninformed to realize it.

  • Zsa Zsa

    Educating myself is one thing… BUT educating myself with material encouraging the Democrats campaign to impeach the President is quite another! You all need to drop the pay back thing… It is way past time to get over it!… We have many other issues in this country today! Why fixate your self on trying to impeach this man? You are caught up in something that is a partisan practice! It has become almost like a ritual with the Dems. to practice hatred… Why not encourage your party leaders to get to work on Social Security reform or something that might benefit our childrens education or our elderly’s health??? Please! I may be stupid BUT I am sure not dumb! I see the Dem. party fixated on Impeaching the Presidentand fixated on abortion! Two negative issues… As far as Cindy Sheehan her son chose to go to Iraq!… He was not drafted. He did it for his own reasons! It is Clear as can be that his mother is a desperate anti-war, anti Bush, wacko! I am sorry she hangs with enemies of our country and very sorry her son died! … I hope she gets some help soon! Bless her heart. She really needs some attention to her mental health! …That would be another good issue to get involved with! Many Americans today battle with mental health issues! Try encouraging bi-partisanship!… Bi-partisanship is the way to make a difference not hate!

  • Jason

    At least now I know not to take anybody seriously on this thread anymore. Name calling and yelling and fighting? How old are you people anyway?

  • Jason

    Go here or here or here or here and start educating yourself.

    Ok, all I’m going to say about that is, give me any president in the 20th century. I can find one liners that the president said and argue against it. That’s not hard. You can do that with any person EVER! There is no proof there that President Bush was lying. Spreading political rethoric, probably, like every presidnet. Lying like, “Saddam took a maned mission to mars to colonize it so that he could shoot WMD’s at America.” No. He didn’t tell LIES.

    All those websites are biased anyway. Give me a website that doesn’t say something like, “Progressive movements to push conservatives out of office” and I’ll look at it even more seriously.

    Thank you.

  • Zsa Zsa

    Don Myers… I agree! Two wrongs don’t make a right. BUT …Don, you missed my point. Don’t be so Fixated on impeaching the President! Encourage Bi-partisanship! Encourage our leaders to get busy on important issues that need to be taken care of such as SS… I really believe that the political antics of Politicians today are going to discourage good people from running for President!…Stop for a moment and try to invision our country and what is best for it. The way you are going about trying to attack the President only encourages partisanship and the division of our country! I don’t want to argue. I just want my children not to have to pay into a gov. retirement fund that is defunked! I want our children well educated so our country doesn’t fall behind in the future!…

  • http://charlesstricklin.com/ Charles W. Stricklin

    I’m thinking Rep. Woolsey should be free to invite whomever she’d like to, but any punishment or condemnation of Ms. Sheehan’s behavior should fall squarely on Ms. Sheehan herself.

  • Anarchitek

    GET A LIFE!!!! The ONLY “security threat” is from people like you who goose-step along with the loopy right lunatics. This is either a FREE country, whose MOST IMPORTANT Amendment to the Constitution, recognized by those zany Founding Fathers (WHAT could they have been thinking???) as MORE IMPORTANT than ALL the other of the 1st ten, or it isn’t! You enjoy YOUR freedom of speech, AND THOUGHT, to denigrate others–WOW, how POSITIVE is that?–and, as a matter of consequence, if not outright fairness (I know, that IS a difficult concept for the narrow-minded storm-troopers among you to wrap your head around), you MUST grant that SAME opportunity to ALL others, whether you agree with what they say or not! It is one thing to say, “I disagree with what you (insert ANY name)”, but it is something else again to resort to ad hominem attacks. Oh, by the way, an “ad hominem” (attack the person, not the issue) is one of the logical FALLACIES, so by using it, you have demonstrated your argument is fallacious, or, for the mentally deficient and logically challenged, JUST PLAIN WRONG. NO argument can be proven by the use of even a SINGLE fallacy as part of its supporting statements! So sorry, Charlie. Just one of the rules of the game. This lowers you to the status of someone with nothing more valid to say than one of those magazines at the supermarket checkout lines, “reporting” about 3-headed babies and alien visitations to perform sophisticated surgery and in vitro fertilization. In other words, you are like young teenagers who use profanity because they think it makes them sound “grown-up”! Eventually, most of them realize it doesn’t and move on. I hope you will do so, also, soon. Until then, try to restrain yourself and put your brain in gear BEFORE engaging your mouth!

  • Zsa Zsa

    Don Myers… I have heard people say that the President has “consistently lied about the war”… But I never hear what lies you all are talking about??? Would you prefer Saddam still be in power? He and his buddies killed, raped, tortured, and goodness knows what else?… As for Cindy Sheehan? Her son wanted to go and fight for what he believed to be right! That is the truth. He was not drafted. His mother had her chance last night! She was told what would happen prior to! AND… Cindy Sheehan was arrested just like anyone else would be if they had done the same! I am sorry she is such a wacko nut job and chooses to continue on her crusade for media attention!
    She is hanging with known enemies of the USA and yet you are unclear why she was handcuffed and hauled off?

  • http://www.captainnormal.org/ Don Myers

    I can think of no clearer contrast than this.

    A man who has consistently lied about the war is applauded by millionaires.

    A woman who has consistently told the truth about the war is dragged away in handcuffs.

    Welcome to Amerika.

  • Michael

    Good “intel” is always corroborated.. if its correct. Accurate information has to be gathered from various viable sources. If you’ve only got one or two sources that might be questionable.. you DON’T commit 140,000 American troops to a war that has the potential to be a powder keg with global reprecussions. There’s no debating this “fact”.

    Also, the Bush administration knew that Saddam was anything but a supporter of Islamic extremists. He never trusted Islamic extremists and wouldn’t share information, weapons or money with them because he saw them as a potential threat to his secular power in a country that was and still is primarily Muslem. The administration knew the truth but they had they’re own agenda and they needed to “sell” it to the American people who, coming off the heels of 9/11 were ripe for a good sell job. We all wanted John Wayne to come in and “kick some ass”..and “W” was just the guy to do it.. “We’re gonna smoke em out.. git em running”… The real joke is that it was Donald Rumsfeld who was Reagan’s envoy to Saddam and Iraq in 1983. We supported Iraq and propped up Saddam’s regime inspite of the “fact” that Saddam was “boiling” people alive.. We didn’t have a problem with his barbarism then.. did we? But now we compare him to Hitler? Now we want to “free the Iraqi people”? We want “democracy” for them? We’ve been speaking out of both sides of our collective mouth for so long that we can no longer see the truth for what it is. Its all so obvious that its laughable.

  • http://www.captainnormal.org/ Don Myers

    Don Myers… I have heard people say that the President has “consistently lied about the war”… But I never hear what lies you all are talking about???

    If that is true you’re not paying attention. Go here or here or here or here and start educating yourself.

    Would you prefer Saddam still be in power? He and his buddies killed, raped, tortured, and goodness knows what else?

    Of course Saddam was a brutal dictator—a brutal, US supported dictator. Being better than Saddam is setting the bar pretty low, zsa. Do you support Dubya because he’s not as bad as Pol Pot?

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/2006/02/01/impeach-lynn-woolsey/ Say Anything – North Dakota&#8

    &heellip; Of course, as I pointed out last night, this isn’t the first time Democrats have stooped to these tactics. &heellip;

  • http://sadparade.typepad.com/ Brad

    Jason,
    You can call the following statements from the Bush administration exaggerations or distortions, or you can call them lies:
    “Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction.” –Dick Cheney, in a speech to the Veterans of Foreign Wars National Convention, August 26, 2002

    “Iraq could decide on any given day to provide a biological or chemical weapon to a terrorist group or individual terrorists….If the Iraqi regime is able to produce, buy, or steal an amount of highly enriched uranium a little larger than a single softball, it could have a nuclear weapon in less than a year”–Bush speaking at the Cincinnati Museum Center – Cincinnati Union Terminal
    Cincinnati, Ohio October 7, 2002

    “Despite evidence of Saddam’s continued ambition to acquire nuclear weapons, to date we have not uncovered evidence that Iraq undertook significant post-1998 steps to actually build nuclear weapons or produce fissile material.” weapons inspector David Kay, October 2003

    These statements are recorded by video and audio equipment and transcripts are available on the internet with minimal searching. Therefore, I’d say the sources are as unbiased as my looking out the window, seeing the sun and saying, “The sun is shining.”

    Now, again, you can call these statements lies or you can call them exaggerations but you cannot excuse them. Furthermore, Bush knew Iraq was not a threat and he didn’t care. He had made up his mind to invade and the “facts” were distorted to fit the agenda. Read the Downing Street memo.

  • Kristin

    Freedom of speech……ever heard of it.It doesn’t matter what people wear.The people who support the violation of civil rights are idiots.

  • http://www.captainnormal.org/ Don Myers

    Jason and zsa:

    Your arguments boil down to: “He didn’t lie and everybody lies.” Besides being self-contradictory, your argument assumes that two wrongs make a right. I disagree.

  • MARK BUECHELE

    SECURITY THREAT?
    THAT’S ABSURD.
    SHE HAD PASSED THRU THE SECURITY CHECK.

    AND CONGRESSMAN YOUNG’S WIFE WAS UNDOUBTEDLY A DECOY TO DIFFUSE CRITICISM REGARDING SHEEHAN’S REMOVAL AND ARREST.

    PATHETIC.

    THE PRESIDENT HAS THE GALL TO SPEAK OF FREEDOM, WHILE HE BLATANTLY DISREGARDS AND CHISELS AWAY AT THE CONSTITUTION.

  • Jason

    Good ‘ol Cindy should be allowed to go if she is invited by someone, like she was. It’s her right as an American citizen. It’s her right to spew a bunch of stuff about Bush too. But when you break the law, you need to be punished, and she broke the law.

    Maybe they’ll burn her at the stake….

    Just kidding, just kidding, relax… :-P

  • Zsa Zsa

    That was for Anarchitek!!!

    Sorry Rob! I hope you and your readers will forgive my language. He probably can’t understand any other way!…

  • Dave

    His jokes aren’t clever, he’s just a good performer.

    He apparently bought his jokebook at the same store as Larry the Cable Guy… but I don’t even think he’s a good performer. The thing he does that pisses me off to no end is when he laughs at his own jokes–as though he’s so funny he can hardly contain his own laughter.

  • http://www.aol.com/ jake

    HEY YOU GUYS REMEMBER HEARING ABOUT THAT GUY WHO WENT AND ACTUALLY FOUGHT WITH THE TALIBAN. HE WAS AMERICAN. AND NOW WE FINNALLY HAVE THE PROOF OF LEFTIES FIGHTING SHOULDER TO SHOULDER WITH THEIR COMRADS IN ARMS.

    JOIN THE FEW, THE MAD, THE PROUD, THE LEFT.

  • Anything Goes

    It really doesn’t matter who is who and who does what. I agree it was the President’s turn to make his remarks and he did. But whether someone is true to themselves or a liar inside and out, the law says we ALL have freedom of speech. It should apply to EVERY situation, not when the government feels like it. A T-shirt shouldn’t disrupt anything. Sheehan had a right to wear whatever she wanted. It was her right as a citizen. Just as we all have the freedom of speech on this blog site.

  • Dave

    Who let all the nuts out, and why have they all converged on this one post?

  • CH Edwin Robinson

    As a deployed Army chaplain, it is my privilege to serve the solders who are defending our liberties and promoting freedom abroad. They defend the right of folk like Don Myers to spout gross misconceptions and twists as facts.

    It is a sad shame that Mr. Myers does not see fit to acknowledge that the preceeding administration likewise made equivalent statements again and again regarding the Saddam regime and its threat.

    I won’t even lay blame at the preceeding administration’s feet for slashing our intel capability thereby limiting what we could verify in detail. We all enjoyed Clinton’s “peace dividend.” Those are the cards we’ve been dealt and we’ll deal with it.

    The morale of the troops is well excepting the fact that many desire to go in and really “clean house.” The soldiers are here; they see much good being done. They wish they could do more. I know of a soldier who will re-up again (3rd time) to work in restoring some infrastructure engineer projects.

    This kind of obsessive rhetoric can demean morale because some of our own people deprecate something that is a hard, but noble work. Thankfully, many Iraqi people are expressive of their gratitude, even through the fear and intimidation of murderous, vicious, and cowardly jihadists. We need to complete the task and assist the Iraqi people in establishing an oasis of freedom and civil good will here–something longtime forgotten and hoped for.

    It is my position, after reading the links Mr. Myers provides as “educational material,” that his sources are replete with gross misrepresentation and vile ad hominem attack.

  • Dave

    Tonight was the President’s turn, and she had no right to be disruptive.

    Free speech for me but not for…..

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/ likwidshoe

    Oh, come on. Of course Iraq was not a threat. Forget assassination attempts…

    Right…just ignore the threats and there is no threat! Great logic.

    …ANY government of ANY nation on earth would be a threat under those terms.

    Are you saying that every government in the world has ordered an assassination on a sitting U.S. President? What are you saying here?

    Iraq was not a threat to the United States of America.

    Right, only if you first ignore the threats. We got that from your first sentence.

    What did they have to hit us with, Lik? Nothing.

    Well, then it is good that we hit them when we did. Good that we didn’t let the “diplomatic” UN Oil for Food Fraud build up Saddam’s monetary reserves any longer than they did.

  • aww

    Most of you need to look up the words stupid and ignorant. Especially. RH Bacon

  • Zsa Zsa

    RH Bacon really sucks!…If you will pardon the expression? Could someone bring him his Kool Aid? He is choking on all the BS he has swallowed!

  • Jason

    lie – noun an intentionally false statement : Mungo felt a pang of shame at telling Alice a lie | the whole thing is a pack of lies. • used with reference to a situation involving deception or founded on a mistaken impression : all their married life she had been living a lie.

    I think that going to war in Iraq was founded on very bad intelligence. I don’t think Bush knew all the facts, that there weren’t any WMDS, therefore, he didn’t lie. You can’t lie if you don’t know everything.

    I might be missing something, I’d appreciate it if you could fill me in on soemthing that says he did know there were no WMDs. I’ll gladly change my arguement.

    That being said, I also think that Bush isn’t exactly the sharpest knife in the drawer, which might add to the fact that he jumped at the chance to go to Iraq. And oil sure didn’t play a small part in it.

    But if you ask me if he LIED to the American public. I dont’ think he did. I’d say he was grossly misinformed and didn’t take responsible messures to look into it enough to justify it in a 100%, without a doubt, way.

    Again, if you have some proof that he did lie, that he knew the whole time what he was saying was wrong, I’d like to see it, thank you.

  • Dave

    Lik: That was not directed at you, it was directed at all the left-wingers who are posting the exact same thing in this thread.

    “Free speech” is being disruptive?

    Obviously.

  • DontLikeLiberals

    You lefties need to wake up and smell the bomb residue from 9/11.

    Saddam DID have WMD’s, chemical and bioligical. He used them on his own people. We gave the guy 12 years to hide his weapons, gee I could have done that. And who says that some weapons didnt go to Syria, I have no proof that they did…. but you have no proof that they did not.

    As for civil liberties….. go ahead and listen to my phone calls… ya see, I have nothing to hide. I personally sleep better at night knowing that someone IS monitoring calls to the middle east. You can also pat me down at the Super Bowl, it won’t offend me. If its keeping the place safe then do what you gotta do.

    Unfortunately you lefties are supporting your local terrorists rights….. just like the ACLU….pretty fkn sad. The ACLU is a joke!!!! (And don’t reply saying that I should be happy that SOMEONE is protecting my rights) The ACLU is destroying this county. (You might be offended if your gay, an atheist, a terrorist or own a kiddy porn site) because you definitly support the ACLU.

    The only reason our country has a bad image to the world is because of extreme leftists like Kerry and Kennedy’s continued attacks on our president, they are relentless…. its sickning. Support our troops and our president!

    Remember…… Kerry even voted to support the war on Iraq…. right before he voted against it. (hilarious)

    This isn’t the Bever Cleaver days anymore…. come on… wake up lefties!!

    I sure am glad I’m on the “Right Side”

    P.S. It’s unfortunate that our college students are being brainwashed by left-wing wacko college professors who preach left-wing propaganda. (just thought I’d throw that in) :)

  • http://www.captainnormal.org/ Don Myers

    Sheehan did not have the “right” to wear anything she wanted to. There are rules. She broke them with her t-shirt and started unfurling a banner.

    That’s a lie, lik. You’re a liar. But we all knew that.

    Your credibility is now ZERO. Anybody who claims that “Iraq was not a threat” is not to be taken seriously.

    You keep telling lies about Syria, about WMDs, and about Iraq. Your credibility is in negative scientific notations.

  • http://magyartruth.blogspot.com/ Chief RZ

    We have a small-time liberal who stood in a restricted area near Columbia Airport with a sign. Two years later, the US Supreme Court refused to hear his appeal. His fine is $500. I’ll bet he will take the jail time.

    Cindy’s case may have a bit more weight as she was in the gallery (see, I can see two sides of the issue). She was, however told that “protest signs” were not allowed. Whether this rule is a reasonable one will probably take up our court’s time. I don’t think it will start in the 9th circuit!

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/ likwidshoe

    When we lose the right to question our leaders, we lose the right to democracy.

    Agreed. That’s not happening though.

    When people who oppose the President aren’t allowed to voice their opinions even on something as silent as a shirt, something is TERRIBLY wrong.

    There is a time and a place. The SOTU address isn’t it.

    Stop being closed minded and accept that there are a number of ways to veiw a certain situation.

    “Closed minded” = doesn’t agree with Raina.

    She doesn’t want people dying… what’s so wrong with that?

    She’s a hypocrite who cozies up to dictators, blames Middle Eastern problems on the Jews, and excuses the people who killed her son. And you sit there and have the nerve to tell us that she doesn’t want people dying? Get real Raina. Sheehan is on the side of America’s enemies.

    What I see is over censorship of a Stalin-esque type.

    Sheehan was sent to a re-education camp, tortured, and worked to death?

    Your analogy doesn’t hold water.

    It’s extremely frightening to me. We’re losing our democracy.

    Way over the top rhetoric.

  • http://sadparade.typepad.com/ Brad

    Your credibility is now ZERO. Anybody who claims that “Iraq was not a threat” is not to be taken seriously. Good grief, Iraq was the country who tried to assassinate a sitting President. But “not a threat” you say.

    Oh, come on. Of course Iraq was not a threat. Forget assassination attempts: ANY government of ANY nation on earth would be a threat under those terms. Iraq was not a threat to the United States of America. What did they have to hit us with, Lik? Nothing.

    Read this article and then let’s talk.

  • Anarchitek

    You responded:
    Author: Zsa Zsa
    Comment:
    One concept that is difficult for this “narrow minded storm trooper” is how you spout off about Freedom, as if we don’t have to observe laws or rules? Freedom does not mean you have keys to Ft. Knox and can threaten, intimidate and do what the heck ever we choose! If you really believe that you are “JUST PLAIN WRONG!”… I will get a life as soon as you get a clue!!!…

    Bite me! There is NO rule about whether you can wear a t-shirt or not! There certainly is no LAW! Nor did Ms Sheehan request the “keys to Ft Knox”, nor did she “threaten, (or) intimidate” anyone–unless that pipsqueak pinhead we have for a president is that easily intimidated–but we ARE guaranteed the RIGHT to “Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness” (capitals BY THE WRITER OF THAT DOCUMENT), by the very document that announced our INDEPENDENCE from the abuses of an intolerant ruler. If believing I live in a free country makes me “JUST PLAIN WRONG!”, then I shall wear that badge with pride. I spent a year in the rotten Republic of VietNam for that privilege, although we bestow that same right on those who didn’t (Bush, Cheney, Wolfowitz, Lott, Frist, DeLay, et ALL). My father spent 4 years in the Navy during WW2, for the same right–a war that WAS the right response at the right time, UNLIKE Iraq. Pull your head out and take a whiff of what you are spreading! Our children, and theirs, are going to pay the consequences for the blindness aflicting all you flag-waving false-patriots!

  • Raina

    When we lose the right to question our leaders, we lose the right to democracy. When people who oppose the President aren’t allowed to voice their opinions even on something as silent as a shirt, something is TERRIBLY wrong.

    Some of you are seriously scaring me. Because you have such strong opinions, but you must recognize that there are going to be opposing opinions.. and just as you express yours, they should have an equal right to express theirs.

    Stop being closed minded and accept that there are a number of ways to veiw a certain situation. Just because you don’t agree with it, doesn’t make it 100% wrong. She doesn’t want people dying… what’s so wrong with that?

    I don’t see a problem. What I see is over censorship of a Stalin-esque type. It’s extremely frightening to me. We’re losing our democracy.

  • Zsa Zsa

    One concept that is difficult for this “narrow minded storm trooper” is how you spout off about Freedom, as if we don’t have to observe laws or rules? Freedom does not mean you have keys to Ft. Knox and can threaten, intimidate and do what the heck ever we choose! If you really believe that you are “JUST PLAIN WRONG!”… I will get a life as soon as you get a clue!!!…

  • dbarnes

    Cindy gripes about freedom of speech. What does she think 28 days camped out in Crawford Texas was? She had no business being there. Her son joined the military or she put him in there. My nineteen year old son is in afganistan in the marines he joined before he got out of high school. Neither of them was drafted. She’s not going to stop the war and she’s not going to bring her son back to life. Those soldiers are fighting for a cause. Freedom in the U.S.A for every race of people that live here freely to worship whom they want, to work where they want, and to enjoy life without the fear of someone blowing them up on their way to church. She is dishonoring her son and every person in our military. She better enjoy the freedom she has and thank God for it. Her son was a Hero in my books as well as anyone else who joined up to defend our country. She just wants attention. I’m sorry for her loss as I am for all the other families who has lost loved ones. The last time I talked to my son they were being mortared about two weeks ago. I pray he’s alright. But I’m proud of him no matter the out come and I’m not going to take that hero out of my life and degrade him by making an ass out of my self like she has done to her son.

  • Zsa Zsa

    Cindy Sheehan got exactly what she wanted! She wanted to make our Gov. look bad… As far as having the Right to wear what ever she wants. That is not a “RIGHT.” Dress codes are observed and followed and she was warned. The charges were dropped, but it was and is illegal. Lucky for Cindy she wasn’t an Iraqi woman during Saddam’s reign. She would have been killed…
    It might do you well to pick up or look up our RIGHT’S.

  • Tyler St. Mark

    Let’s this straight…

    George Bush can shamelessly grandstand at his State of the Union address by exploiting the parents of a dead soldier, basking pretentiously in the bravery of a fallen soldier whose place he would not have dared taken during his own meager if not questionable military service, while the mother of another equally courageous soldier was dragged brusquely and unceremoniously out of the same venue for merely wearing a t-shirt which accurately depicting the number of American casualties in Iraq?

    How despicable, how hypocritical, and how very Republican!

  • Zsa Zsa

    You are as irrational as the rest of your liberal, out of the mainstream, leftist minority wacko’s!… Individuals like you have divided the Democratic party and made our entire world a hard place to live!… You are an angry confused irrational person! You spew your vile words at me, making my Right for the pursuit of happiness difficult!… Pull your own head out of your own ass! Your every word and breath makes me sick!… We all are subject to laws and rules. Like it or not!
    You are absolutely the most worthless individual that I hope I will ever have to cross paths with! … I hope you will get over your self centered ways and join the human race! Toodle -fucking-loo you worthless scum of the earth!

  • Zsa Zsa

    Whatever you worthless pile of liberal leftist BS…

  • A Hermit

    There most certainly is a law about political demonstrations in the capitol

    Really?

    Better call the police chief and the congressman and tell them where to find it….

    The two women appeared to have offended tradition if not the law, according to several law enforcement and congressional officials. By custom, the annual address is to be a dignified affair in which the president reports on the state of the nation. Guests in the gallery who wear shirts deemed political in nature have, in past years, been asked to change or cover them up.

    Young’s treatment prompted a call from her husband to Gainer and an angry denunciation from the House floor Wednesday.

    “I had two lawyers spend all morning looking at the law and at the rules, and we came up with absolutely nothing on which they could base what they did,” the congressman said.

  • dbarnes

    Well that about takes the cake. I just told these people how I felt and it was blocked. Talk about freedom of speech. I didn’t degrade anyone. I guess this is just a place to agree with them.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/ likwidshoe

    Suzz dribbles out, First, the reason we are at war is because of Bush and his pals wanting the Iraqi oil.

    Why aren’t they taking it then?

    Sure they foster terrorist, but so does the USA.

    The “he does it too mommy” defense.

    Second: If Bush “really” wanted to do something about terrorist then Osama would have been caught a very long time ago.

    So terrorism is limited to one guy. That what you’re saying.

    But this is not about terriorist it is about OIL!!!

    That’s what you keep on claiming.

    dbarnes said, Well that about takes the cake. I just told these people how I felt and it was blocked. Talk about freedom of speech. I didn’t degrade anyone. I guess this is just a place to agree with them.

    Your comment hit the spam filter for some reason. It happens. I recovered ya. In any regard, the hosts agree with you.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/ likwidshoe

    …was rather more pan-topic than merely on topic, speaking more to the overall shrill and unreflective tone of the entire blog.

    Don’t confuse the shrill and off topic commentators such as yourself for the blog itself. In any regard, you’re reaching with that foolish comment of yours. Only fools got suckered into that one. Educate yourself.

  • Zsa Zsa

    Some places nudity is considered not to be suitable and offends many! Dress codes are enforced everyday all over our country. Why is it OK for Cindy Sheehan after being told and asked to cover the shirt up any different? If she really wanted to she could have had a chance to represent her self in a proper way! She didn’t want that! She wanted to be the center of attention and make our Government look bad in the meantime!…IT LOOKS LIKE SHE GOT WHAT SHE WANTED!…

  • Zsa Zsa

    Congress Woman Woolly should be ASHAMED of herself for inviting Cindy Sheehan Knowing she would protest!…
    It is time for our elected leaders to get some work done on the real issues. Cindy S. got what she wanted now the media needs to quit focusing on sensationalism! WOOLLY got what she wanted by inviting the old Hag!… How lovely to have a member of Congress be so irresponsible and blatant to invite Cindy Sheehan!…WOW!

  • Zsa Zsa

    Losing Democracy????? … Think about it? Sheehan takes every advantage of her Freedom of Speech by getting arrested! That is what she does. That is how anti-war demonstraters have always done it and always will. The woman is hanging with HUGO CHAVEZ? Telling him and the world the President of the United States is a Terrorist? You should be afraid of this woman who has obviously crossed the line! Every where all over this country we have the RIGHT to choose! BUT…We still are subject to following Rules, laws and Traditions. Cindy Sheehan new prior to entering and was warned that her shirt would be considered inappropriate! She took full advantage of that Fact. That is what she does! Obviously you heard her and I did too. It was inappropriate. She new it . She did it anyway knowing full well she would get attention and in the meantime make our country and our President look bad!
    She can wear her T shirt and burn the flag outside the Capitol Building all she wants! She can hang with Hugo and cuddle up with any other enemy of the USA! Just not in the Capitol Building!

  • Bobby G

    It doesn’t scare me that Cindy was arrested. That is standard behavior for those who would “destroy paradise in order to save it”. What is frightening is that millions of Americans are not up in arms about the violation of the Constitution by the President. This country can survive the actions of even the most power hungry leaders–military or civilian. What America can not survive is indifference from our citizens when the freedom of even one of us is violated. Does anyone really believe that our country should stand by while the people of any country are being tortured and murdered for the pleasure and entertainment of their corrupt dictators? Squashing Saddam was the right thing to do. The President could have had our full support if he had not tried to creat reasons to do it. Saddam and his sons provided all the reasons any of needs. We need to do the same thing to Iran, and quickly before Israel, Egypt, the Saudies, and Hamas turn the region into World War 3. Have no doubt; If all hell breaks loose over there, nuclear weapons will be used. The President needs to place competent officers in charge and let them do what they are experts at. There is no reason to allow the continued kidnapping and murder of non combatents. That kind of resistance is without honor. It is not a fight for democracy or self government. It is the attempt of men just like Saddam to regain power in Iraq, and they also need to be squashed. I do not like George W. When the truth is told about his career and administration, he will be remembered as one of Americas worst presidents. He must be resisted every time he violates our rights, and he must be supported every time he does what our consciences tell us is right.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/ likwidshoe

    Don Myers continues spewing, You link to a story that says Ms. Sheehan did NOT have a banner–to back up your claim that she DID have a banner. You’re a dumbass, alright. A dumbass and a liar.

    I linked to a Google News search to clearly show that that was how it was first reported. I guess I am a “dumbass” and a “liar” for setting the record straight. Any more words you’d like to redefine?

    Still think Saddam had WMDs and planned 9/11?

    I think that it is very possible that Saddam had WMDs and said WMDs were moved to Syria in the 14 month “rush to war”. I’ve been saying as much for three years now. I have never thought that Saddam planned 9/11. I have never said that he did.

    You live in your owm little world, kid. Ever wonder why you can’t get laid? That probably has something to do with it…

    You don’t know me and you bring up my sex life? How old are you Don?

    Dose up on that Effexor, you’re depressing.

  • Seamus

    Likwidshoe:

    Admittedly, I am having trouble tracking your inchoate postings. Heavy on the ad hominem, light on the sequacious logic. But given your gravatar, well…

    My focus was the main thrust of the first study in the Post piece: “When presented with negative information about the candidates they liked, partisans of all stripes found ways to discount it, Westen said. When the unpalatable information was rejected, furthermore, the brain scans showed that volunteers gave themselves feel-good pats — the
    scans showed that “reward centers” in volunteers’ brains were activated. The psychologist observed that the way these subjects dealt with unwelcome information had curious parallels with drug addiction as addicts also reward themselves for wrong-headed behavior.”

    Whether or not this is a provable trait across the population (it would seem demomstrably obvious from the state of discourse in this country), it is certainly the hallmark of this forum where spittle-flecked eructations like your stunted rejoinder to my posting appear to be the coin of the realm. Like a blind read of an MMPI, they speak volumes about the lay of your arid and rutted internal landscape, but contribute precious little to the larger principles under debate.

    THAT would be my point, soggyshoe. Granted, I failed to take you gently by the hand and lead you there. Oopy.

  • http://www.suzieviews.blogspot.com/ Suzie

    I see you got as many comments as I did from the AOL link. Excellent post!!! She is a lunatic!!!

  • Dave

    …they have thrown trillions of dollars at “defense”, picking up a nice buck for themselves along the way! They also opposed the 40 hour week, overtime pay, the right of women to vote, the ERA, and EVERYTHING that would benefit the average working stif, while voting endlessly to reduce taxes for the wealthiest 1 or 2%….

    They have drowned little puppy dogs, laughing with glee as the pups struggle for breath. They have done business with Sauron, aiding his work in unleashing pure evil on the world…

  • Zsa Zsa

    TamM: Saddam himself is and or was the biggest WMD. Do you recall the fires of Kauwaitt? Do you recall the mass graves and torture chambers? Women were raped and people killed for no reason other than Saddam and his pals felt like it… It has to be difficult having your child volunteer to go and fight. No doubt about it! God bless you so much and God bless your son! …

  • Dave

    As a student of a higher education institution…

    A rich doctor you say?

  • Suzz

    Come on people! I may not agree with Cindy’s tactics 100% but she does make some good points.

    First, the reason we are at war is because of Bush and his pals wanting the Iraqi oil. They can fess up Americans are tired of being lied to. Sure they foster terrorist, but so does the USA. Just look at the White House, yep I am referring to “Nutmeg George”….I borrowed that name and I do like it.

    Second: If Bush “really” wanted to do something about terrorist then Osama would have been caught a very long time ago. Is our military that inept? Really now, everyone knows that the Bin Ladens and the Bush families go way back…But this is not about terriorist it is about OIL!!!

    I do feel that she had the right to wear what she choose, but think she could have dressed for the occasion better. However, that was Cindy’s personal choice just as it was the senators wife.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/ likwidshoe

    Admittedly, I am having trouble tracking your inchoate postings. Heavy on the ad hominem, light on the sequacious logic. But given your gravatar, well…

    Ad hominem you say?

    My focus was the main thrust of the first study in the Post piece: “When presented with negative information about the candidates they liked, partisans of all stripes found ways to discount it, Westen said. When the unpalatable information was rejected, furthermore, the brain scans showed that volunteers gave themselves feel-good pats — the
    scans showed that “reward centers” in volunteers’ brains were activated.

    Which sounds like they are trying to insulate themselves from the “study” being picked apart for the sham that it is.

    …it is certainly the hallmark of this forum where spittle-flecked eructations like your stunted rejoinder to my posting appear to be the coin of the realm.

    Ad hominem you say?

    Like a blind read of an MMPI, they speak volumes about the lay of your arid and rutted internal landscape, but contribute precious little to the larger principles under debate.

    *yawn* You have anything of substance by chance?

    THAT would be my point, soggyshoe. Granted, I failed to take you gently by the hand and lead you there. Oopy.

    Ad hominem you say?

    You’re a joke Seamus.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/ likwidshoe

    That’s a lie, lik. You’re a liar. But we all knew that.

    Why are you always a dickhead? In any regard, no lie Donnie. That’s how it was first reported.

    You keep telling lies about Syria, about WMDs, and about Iraq. Your credibility is in negative scientific notations.

    Whatever dickhead.

  • Seamus

    So, following the blogger’s reasoning, can I assume he has a link to site calling for the impeachment of Rep. Bill Young of Florida,whose wife, Beverly, was also removed from the House for wearing a t-shirt expressing a political sentiment.

    Young, who chairs the House Appropriations defense subcommittee, was livid that, like Cindy Sheehan, his wife was also removed for wearing a t-shirt expressing her version of support for the troops.

    The Capitol Police statement said neither guest should have been confronted about her expressive T-shirt.

    To wit:

    Capitol Police Apologize to Activist Sheehan
    Reuters

    Wednesday 01 February 2006

    Washington – The US Capitol Police dropped charges against activist Cindy Sheehan on Wednesday and apologized for arresting her in the House of Representatives chamber shortly before President Bush’s State of the Union address.

    Sheehan, who became a central figure in the U.S. anti-war movement after her son Casey was killed in the Iraq war, was taken from the Capitol in handcuffs and charged with unlawful conduct after refusing to cover an anti-war slogan on her T-shirt.

    The Capitol Police said in a statement that it had reviewed the incident and determined the arrest was unwarranted.

    “While officers acted in a manner consistent with the rules of decorum enforced by the department in the House Gallery for years, neither Mrs. Sheehan’s manner of dress or initial conduct warranted law enforcement intervention,” the statement said.

    Capitol Police Chief Terrance Gainer also apologized to the wife of a House Republican who was told to leave the chamber during Bush’s speech for wearing a shirt bearing words of support for U.S. troops.

    Rep. Bill Young of Florida had condemned the treatment of his wife, Beverly. Young, who chairs the House Appropriations defense subcommittee, said on the House floor his wife was called “a demonstrator and a protester” for doing what Bush had asked of Americans: supporting U.S. soldiers serving in Iraq.

    The Capitol Police statement said neither guest should have been confronted about her expressive T-shirt.

    “The officers made a good faith, but mistaken, effort to enforce an old unwritten interpretation of the prohibitions about demonstrating in the Capitol. The policy and procedures were too vague,” Gainer said. “The failure to adequately prepare the officers is mine.”

    Sheehan, who won wide attention with an anti-war vigil outside Bush’s Texas ranch, was attending the speech as the guest of Rep. Lynn Woolsey, a California Democrat.

    In a speech on the House floor, Woolsey said Sheehan wore a shirt that highlighted the number of dead U.S. soldiers in Iraq. “Since when is free speech conditional on whether you agree with the president of the United States?” Woolsey asked.

    “How can we claim to be fighting on behalf of freedom around the world, making the world safe for freedom when we are smothering freedom here at home?” she said.

    The Capitol Police department said it would ask the U.S. attorney’s office not to pursue the unlawful conduct charge against Sheehan. The charge carries a maximum sentence of one year in prison.

    Sheehan and other activists were arrested in September for protesting outside the White House without a permit, a misdemeanor that carriers a $50 fine.

    ——-

  • Anarchitek

    You wrote:
    “Author: Zsa Zsa
    Comment:
    You are as irrational as the rest of your liberal, out of the mainstream, leftist minority wacko’s!… Individuals like you have divided the Democratic party and made our entire world a hard place to live!… You are an angry confused irrational person! You spew your vile words at me, making my Right for the pursuit of happiness difficult!… Pull your own head out of your own ass! Your every word and breath makes me sick!… We all are subject to laws and rules. Like it or not!
    You are absolutely the most worthless individual that I hope I will ever have to cross paths with! … I hope you will get over your self centered ways and join the human race! Toodle -fucking-loo you worthless scum of the earth!”

    I don’t think there is any way you can know ANYTHING about my beliefs from TWO comments. Of course, for intalerant and inarticulate people such ar you, that is never a matter for consideration. Your vulgarity and ad hominim attacks are symptomatic of what IS wrong with the country–YOU are the problem. Perhaps you should read some of the OTHER comments that agree THERE IS NO LAW REGARDING CLOTHING. I know you won’t let anything as trivial as REALITY divert you.

    As far as WHO might have “made our entire world a hard place to live”–over the last 110 years, we have had a Republican president for 62 of those years, 56.4% of the time. Most of the last century ALSO saw a Republican majority in Congress–with the exception of the years following the Great Depression until the election of Reagan. If anyone is to blame, it is those who gave us the Great Depression, VietNam, Watergate, Irangate, the Savings and Loan crisis (a multi-billion dollar bail-out of Republican fatcats by the American taxpayers), and now Iraq! Along the way, they also crippled our military going into WW2, by refusing to spend ANY money on weapons OR the military–since then, they have thrown trillions of dollars at “defense”, picking up a nice buck for themselves along the way! They also opposed the 40 hour week, overtime pay, the right of women to vote, the ERA, and EVERYTHING that would benefit the average working stif, while voting endlessly to reduce taxes for the wealthiest 1 or 2%. They rallied around Bob Packwood, a certified sexual predator in the Senate who intimidated dozens of women into providing him with sexual favors, THEN made a big deal out of Clinton’s escapade with ONE intern. Perhaps if you did a little research into the truth about BOTH parties, you could have SOMETHING, other than vulgaritys and putdowns, to say. But do not bother on my account, for no matter what you say, I will not be back to read it. Not to put too fine a point on it, but you aren’t worth the time or effort.

  • Zsa Zsa

    Dave, You are a hoot! I laughed so hard I teared up!… That just struck me as funny… Thanks I needed that.

  • CRYUnicornClear

    As a student of a higher education institution, I believe that neiether the expolution and arest of two citizens of Americia is as important a some of the propasals of President Bush. The law requires no protesting in sertain circumstanceses and this is one of them. I strongly believe in all rights. Furthermore, they both wanted atention.

    President Bush propesed cutting funding for certain unefficient programs. However what he didn’t tell you what they were. However, some of these programs will directly affect me such as: the reduction of Federal loans for students. He proclaims that he wants a leading technologicial workforce, yet he takes away federal funding for public education in favor of private busineses tax breaks for innovative programs.

    Moreover, his begining statements resembled that of an imperalistic nation. President Bush aserts that The U.S.A. is either an imeralist nation forcing democortization and capitialism on other countries or a completely issolationalist policy. Isn’t there some middle ground?

    I don not believe that totarian goverments that inflict human rights violations are right. However, I don’t belive we should mak them into what President Bush wants them to be.

    In regardes to the reconformation of the Patriot Act
    I have several problems. First of all, its morally repulsive to have the government spy on you. Considering the values President Bush is suppose to have. Furthermore, if any one has read the 200 page plus document (which I have) would realize the full implications of this act to resemble policies of the third riech. However, other principles of strengthening the border contrrols I highly agree with. Therefore, it is a compromise weather you are willing to give up some freedom for the promise of protection.

    President Bush also stated that we have seen increased growth fo the past 6(?) years yet what he failed to mention was that this is do to the rich estabilishing more wealth while the middle class disapears and the poor get poorer.

    In conclusion, one must forgive my atrotious spelling. Yet my points are important. Instead of arguering over who were what t-shirt we should be paying attention to what is hapening to our country. Since of spent enough time ranting I need to go study fo midterms and further educating myself while putting myself into large amounts of debt to pay for it.

  • Anything Goes

    RH Bacon….You stated “Let people believe what they want to believe…and you respect spirituality and religion” but then contradicted yourself by saying we’re “blinded by something called Jesus.” Per my beliefs as I do read the bible and believe in SOMEONE called Jesus (open-eyed)…I’d like to hear you BLOG your way out of this comment WHEN Jesus comes back and asks you about it.

  • carol

    Cindy should keep quiet out of respect for the President????

    I can think of very few people that I respect less than the President at this time. In fact, those few people I respect less happen to be in his administration. This administration respects the dollar and little else.

    Blind obedience and acquiescence is not how our founding fathers created this democracy, and it will not be how we maintain it either. While the Middle East is moving toward democracy, we move further away. Ironic isn’t it?

  • Andrew

    I listen to him, but I have to agree with you about Dane. His jokes aren’t clever, he’s just a good performer. We need another Mitch Hedberg (RIP).

    Sorry to be off topic, but it doesn’t seem this thread has a point anymore.

  • Dave

    Yeah, that’s certainly on topic.

  • PETE

    This has nothing to do with freedom of speech – it has to do with following the rules of the host (congress), as guests with good manners should. Note that Beverly Young, wife of Rep. C.W. Bill Young, R-Fla., was removed from the gallery because she was wearing a T-shirt that read, “Support the Troops – Defending Our Freedom.” (from a 1951 born NoDak, now living in FL).

  • Seamus

    Lear poignantly, albeit unintentionally, debunks the maxim that “brevity is the soul of wit.” But my posting,Your Magesty, likely exceeding the physical endurance of your purple lips, was rather more pan-topic than merely on topic, speaking more to the overall shrill and unreflective tone of the entire blog.

    You, of course, have stepped in as a timely exemplar of same. Special thanks.

    By all means, wring your spleens ’til they’re jerky.

  • Dave

    The ACLU is a joke!!!! (…) The ACLU is destroying this country.

    Well I for one don’t find the destruction of our country very funny. But I don’t like Dane Cook either, so maybe I just have a lousy sense of humor.

    On the subject, though, how can a joke of an organization destroy the entire counry?

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    Mature, but to the point.

  • Seamus

    (sigh) Well, what did I expect from a blog site that actually ballyhoos that it’s North Dakota’s most popular blog site? Sheesh.

    Rest up your lips, kids, and give the below a read:

    > Study Ties Political Leanings to Hidden Biases
    >
    > By Shankar Vedantam
    > Washington Post Staff Writer
    > Monday, January 30, 2006; A05
    >
    > Put a group of people together at a party and observe how they behave.
    > Differently than when they are alone? Differently than when they are
    > with family? What if they’re in a stadium instead of at a party? What
    > if they’re all men?
    >
    > The field of social psychology has long been focused on how social
    > environments affect the way people behave. But social psychologists are
    > people, too, and as the United States has become increasingly
    > politically polarized, they have grown increasingly interested in
    > examining what drives these sharp divides: red states vs. blue states;
    > pro-Iraq war vs. anti-Iraq war; pro-same-sex marriage vs. anti-same-sex
    > marriage. And they have begun to study political behavior using such
    > specialized tools as sophisticated psychological tests and brain scans.
    >
    > “In my own family, for example, there are stark differences, not just
    > of opinion but very profound differences in how we view the world,”
    > said Brenda Major, a psychologist at the University of California at
    > Santa Barbara and the president of the Society for Personality and
    > Social Psychology, which had a conference last week that showcased
    > several provocative psychological studies about the nature of political
    > belief.
    >
    > The new interest has yielded some results that will themselves provoke
    > partisan reactions: Studies presented at the conference, for example,
    > produced evidence that emotions and implicit assumptions often
    > influence why people choose their political affiliations, and that
    > partisans stubbornly discount any information that challenges their
    > preexisting beliefs.
    >
    > Emory University psychologist Drew Westen put self-identified
    > Democratic and Republican partisans in brain scanners and asked them to
    > evaluate negative information about various candidates. Both groups
    > were quick to spot inconsistency and hypocrisy — but only in
    > candidates they opposed.
    >
    > When presented with negative information about the candidates they
    > liked, partisans of all stripes found ways to discount it, Westen said.
    > When the unpalatable information was rejected, furthermore, the brain
    > scans showed that volunteers gave themselves feel-good pats — the
    > scans showed that “reward centers” in volunteers’ brains were
    > activated. The psychologist observed that the way these subjects dealt
    > with unwelcome information had curious parallels with drug addiction as
    > addicts also reward themselves for wrong-headed behavior.
    >
    > Another study presented at the conference, which was in Palm Springs,
    > Calif., explored relationships between racial bias and political
    > affiliation by analyzing self-reported beliefs, voting patterns and the
    > results of psychological tests that measure implicit attitudes —
    > subtle stereotypes people hold about various groups.
    >
    > That study found that supporters of President Bush and other
    > conservatives had stronger self-admitted and implicit biases against
    > blacks than liberals did.
    >
    > “What automatic biases reveal is that while we have the feeling we are
    > living up to our values, that feeling may not be right,” said
    > University of Virginia psychologist Brian Nosek, who helped conduct the
    > race analysis. “We are not aware of everything that causes our
    > behavior, even things in our own lives.”
    >
    > Brian Jones, a spokesman for the Republican National Committee, said he
    > disagreed with the study’s conclusions but that it was difficult to
    > offer a detailed critique, as the research had not yet been published
    > and he could not review the methodology. He also questioned whether the
    > researchers themselves had implicit biases — against Republicans —
    > noting that Nosek and Harvard psychologist Mahzarin Banaji had given
    > campaign contributions to Democrats.
    >
    > “There are a lot of factors that go into political affiliation, and
    > snap determinations may be interesting for an academic study, but the
    > real-world application seems somewhat murky,” Jones said.
    >
    > Nosek said that though the risk of bias among researchers was “a
    > reasonable question,” the study provided empirical results that could
    > — and would — be tested by other groups: “All we did was compare
    > questions that people could answer any way they wanted,” Nosek said, as
    > he explained why he felt personal views could not have influenced the
    > outcome. “We had no direct contact with participants.”
    >
    > For their study, Nosek, Banaji and social psychologist Erik Thompson
    > culled self-acknowledged views about blacks from nearly 130,000 whites,
    > who volunteered online to participate in a widely used test of racial
    > bias that measures the speed of people’s associations between black or
    > white faces and positive or negative words. The researchers examined
    > correlations between explicit and implicit attitudes and voting
    > behavior in all 435 congressional districts.
    >
    > The analysis found that substantial majorities of Americans, liberals
    > and conservatives, found it more difficult to associate black faces
    > with positive concepts than white faces — evidence of implicit bias.
    > But districts that registered higher levels of bias systematically
    > produced more votes for Bush.
    >
    > “Obviously, such research does not speak at all to the question of the
    > prejudice level of the president,” said Banaji, “but it does show that
    > George W. Bush is appealing as a leader to those Americans who harbor
    > greater anti-black prejudice.”
    >
    > Vincent Hutchings, a political scientist at the University of Michigan
    > in Ann Arbor, said the results matched his own findings in a study he
    > conducted ahead of the 2000 presidential election: Volunteers shown
    > visual images of blacks in contexts that implied they were getting
    > welfare benefits were far more receptive to Republican political ads
    > decrying government waste than volunteers shown ads with the same
    > message but without images of black people.
    >
    > Jon Krosnick, a psychologist and political scientist at Stanford
    > University, who independently assessed the studies, said it remains to
    > be seen how significant the correlation is between racial bias and
    > political affiliation.
    >
    > For example, he said, the study could not tell whether racial bias was
    > a better predictor of voting preference than, say, policy preferences
    > on gun control or abortion. But while those issues would be addressed
    > in subsequent studies — Krosnick plans to get random groups of future
    > voters to take the psychological tests and discuss their policy
    > preferences — he said the basic correlation was not in doubt.
    >
    > “If anyone in Washington is skeptical about these findings, they are in
    > denial,” he said. “We have 50 years of evidence that racial prejudice
    > predicts voting. Republicans are supported by whites with prejudice
    > against blacks. If people say, ‘This takes me aback,’ they are ignoring
    > a huge volume of research.”

  • Zsa Zsa

    likwidshoe: Don is on his Lib. campaign to attack the President… He is a typical brainwashed angry puppet! He is taking this opportunity to attack you personally because he and Sheehan are mutual anti-Bush, anti-America, and anti-GOP majority! … The Dems. don’t have anything! Nothing!…Why he spews the way he does is an epidimic widespread throughout the Democratic party since the Dems. beloved Bill Clinton was impeached for being the LIAR that he is! That is why these kind of individuals love to call GW Bush and the GOP liars! He is very transparent and wants to irritate you because of the rage inside him! Ignore him and maybe he will go away… Cindy Sheehan and Don are in bed with eachother so he feels the need to defend her! …

  • T. A. Netzband

    First, let me tip my hat to the two Gentlemen (Brad and Jerry McIntyre). I believe that they have made statements
    that are on point without going on a soap box.

    I would like to mention something I had seen on CNN. About a
    Soldier who was out spoken about the need for improvement in
    equipment and even went to a major newspaper and talked more
    about it. Our Gov’t put a stop to that and curved his right
    to speak out because of the moral of his fellow Soldiers.

    Shame on you Bush! Shame on you folks in the Pentagon!

    What was UP with the listening devices that were being placed without due process? I don’t care what our Gov’t say there is ALWAYS a danger that this type of thing will be misused. How do we know that,that very thing may have already happened? WHAT WERE THEY THINKING??? This is another
    example of what WAS suppose to be check and balances (seperation of executive branchs).

    I would like to touch on a few other topics.I do believe that at times Bush does loose focus on important things. IE: Why would he have the Attorney General get involved in a law suite of a billionaire estate? Could it be because the guy who passed was from Bush’s home state? You can find this in the WSJ (maybe a month or so back).

    The other thing I would like to talk about is the VERY hot topic of Social Security. In all the recent talks over this subject. I have not heard anything about the IOUS that were taken out back in the 80′s. What happened to all that money? Were the moneys from the IOUS added to the figures
    that have been passed around or had they been forgotten?

    Part (d) of this new drug plan is FAR from clear. Many Older People have no real idea of what it is all about. What does seem to be clear to the Older people and some Care givers are that you have to pay the first $250 dollars before the plan kicks in and and then you reach a cap then spend more money before more of the drugs are covered. YES, I can almost hear someone say that they do not have to take part (d). The problem is really the same,If you don’t understand what they are offered through Social Security then how can they compare the different plans? I have over heard a few Older people say that they can’t afford to take more money out of pocket to pay for these plans. It is not totally clear that the money going to pay for these other
    plans are coming out of your check directly.

    The last thing I wish to mention is this. I WILL be the first to say that I am PRO gay marriage! Now that being said, I also believe in the seperation of Church and State.
    I BELIEVE that BUSH should spend less time trying to change
    the laws when it comes to marriage and a WHOLE LOT more time looking after our Troops!

    I may not have put this as well as the two Gents I first mentioned but I think I got my points across. BTW I am neither a Dem or a Republican. I vote on the issuses and try my best to stay current. I vote on the people who are running for a position based on how they might do the job.

  • hvywgt

    Yes it is unfair when our president can do his “grandstanding” in the capitol, but she had to travel to Venezuela for a photo op.

  • KAGOME

    HOW IS SHE A RISK? DID SHE THREATEN ANYONE? IF SHE WAS A RISK HOW DID SHE GET IN ? THE CONGERSSMEN WIFE MUST BE A RISK TOO? YOU TELL ME?

  • Dave

    “Free speech” is being disruptive?

    Obviously. If you need someone’s permission to speak or express yourself, it’s not really free. The First Amendment wasn’t written to protect people who did speak the party line.

  • Zsa Zsa

    Cindy Sheehan had her chance and she blew it!… It should be clear now that the women is a Nut job! She really needs to go home! She does have a home doesn’t she???

    Rob, I just love how you think! Great post as usual…

  • http://www.captainnormal.org/ Don Myers

    lik:

    You link to a story that says Ms. Sheehan did NOT have a banner—to back up your claim that she DID have a banner. You’re a dumbass, alright. A dumbass and a liar.

    Still think Saddam had WMDs and planned 9/11?

    You live in your owm little world, kid. Ever wonder why you can’t get laid? That probably has something to do with it…

  • aww

    If you go to edit and then scroll down, then click on dictionary. Then type in Stupid (lots of info) and then ignorant (some more helpful info.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/ likwidshoe

    Dave says, Free speech for me but not for…..

    “Free speech” is being disruptive?

    Don Myers says, A man who has consistently lied about the war is applauded by millionaires.

    That is what you keep on claiming. Noticeably lacking is any evidence to back up your claim.

    A woman who has consistently told the truth about the war is dragged away in handcuffs.

    Who?

    Brad says, You can call the following statements from the Bush administration exaggerations or distortions, or you can call them lies:
    “Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction.” –Dick Cheney, in a speech to the Veterans of Foreign Wars National Convention, August 26, 2002

    One word Brad: Syria.

    Now, again, you can call these statements lies or you can call them exaggerations but you cannot excuse them.

    They’re not “lies” nor are they “exaggerations”.

    Furthermore, Bush knew Iraq was not a threat and he didn’t care.

    Your credibility is now ZERO. Anybody who claims that “Iraq was not a threat” is not to be taken seriously. Good grief, Iraq was the country who tried to assassinate a sitting President. But “not a threat” you say.

    He had made up his mind to invade and the “facts” were distorted to fit the agenda. Read the Downing Street memo.

    What about the Downing Street Memo? You seem to think that it is an argument in and of itself.

    Anything Goes makes up reality, But whether someone is true to themselves or a liar inside and out, the law says we ALL have freedom of speech. It should apply to EVERY situation, not when the government feels like it. A T-shirt shouldn’t disrupt anything. Sheehan had a right to wear whatever she wanted.

    Sheehan did not have the “right” to wear anything she wanted to. There are rules. She broke them with her t-shirt and started unfurling a banner.

    Just as we all have the freedom of speech on this blog site.

    No you don’t. It’s a priviledge for you to comment here.

    R.H. Bacon spews, The people who voted for this man, a lot of them can’t read anything but a bible…Now, I respect spirituality, and religion.

    No you don’t.

    Aren’t we killing a bunch of people RIGHT NOW for what they believe??? And who is wrong?

    Moral relativism. You are steeped in it.

    AND…for the record, 9/11 was a retaliation on american soil for years of opression we have heaped onto the middle east and the study and practice of Islam. To anyone who truly believes we are fighting under a banner of 9/11 should drown himself.

    So you are the enemy then. Thanks for the clarification.

    Can’t you see? No, you’re all blinded by something called Jesus.

    Most of us here are agnostic and atheist. Now you have no argument.

    TamM says, WHAT don’t people understand…..there were NO weapons of mass distruction.

    They were probably moved to Syria.

    In our Country the invasion from one Country to another Country for no reason would be considered war crimes.

    “No reason”? Explain.

    The man we were after was never caught and won’t be because we aren’t even looking for him.

    We’re looking for him. I guess it needs to be said: this is a war against terrorism, not a war against one guy. You should already know this by now.

    CRYUnicornClear said, He proclaims that he wants a leading technologicial workforce, yet he takes away federal funding for public education in favor of private busineses tax breaks for innovative programs.

    Newsflash: tax receipts are way up.

    President Bush also stated that we have seen increased growth fo the past 6(?) years yet what he failed to mention was that this is do to the rich estabilishing more wealth while the middle class disapears and the poor get poorer.

    Facts to support this bold claim? (I know you don’t have them.)

  • TamM

    Cindy is doing nothing but standing up for what she believes in. That is her right for living in this Country. My son leaves for Iraq on February 16 and I support him and every man and woman over there……but our reasoning for being there has changed since the beginning of this war and so have peoples views. I too hold hold Bush totally responsible should ANYTHING happen to my son while in Iraq. I already hold him responsible for our fallen soldiers. Its total murder, the lives lost over there. WHAT don’t people understand…..there were NO weapons of mass distruction. In our Country the invasion from one Country to another Country for no reason would be considered war crimes. The man we were after was never caught and won’t be because we aren’t even looking for him. So unless he walks right into the troops hands…..the evil and threat will still be there.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    Bite me! There is NO rule about whether you can wear a t-shirt or not! There certainly is no LAW!

    There most certainly is a law about political demonstrations in the capitol and there is also a precedent for that law being applied to t-shirts. In 1999 a man was kicked out of the Clinton SOTU for wearing an anti-Clinton t-shirt.

    Is the law a bad one? I’ll listen to arguments for that, but pretending like it doesn’t exist or that it is all the invention of the Bush administration is nonsense.

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