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Increased travel times=decrease in overall productivity and reduction of choices in employment.

If life doesn’t begin at conception, why do they call it birth control?

You still have the choice to accept my challenge, bob. Are you man enough?

There goes John Warner trying to save us from ourselves again. We do not need this government interference in our lives. Some of the guys where I work have reduced their speeds to 55-65mph from 75mph. Others have bought motorcycles. Let us deal with this problem individually. Those who fail to use common sense conservatism will pay for it with their wallets. That is as it should be.

Bull, we do not need to drive 55 again, you can’t get anywhere because it is too slow to drive.
I don’t think this is a good idea.

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Conservation is an individual choice; when big govt mandates it, it’s totalitarianism.

If life doesn’t begin at conception, why do they call it birth control?

Bob:

You have the choice to accept my challenge. You’re so logical and factual it should be the easiest $200 bucks you ever made!

Conservation is an individual choice; when big govt mandates it, it’s totalitarianism.
robert108 on July 4, 2008 at 04:06 pm

If the republicans reduced the big govt, made it meet your specifications, and said small govt mandated conservation, what would that be?

If the republicans reduced the big govt, made it meet your specifications, and said small govt mandated conservation, what would that be?

I’m sorry you are unable to do logic, e.
Your kneejerk partisanship has apparently warped your mind.

If life doesn’t begin at conception, why do they call it birth control?

So we both agree. In this instance the size of the govt is irrelevant. Your objection is govt mandated conservation.

So we both agree. In this instance the size of the govt is irrelevant. Your objection is govt mandated conservation.

Any govt is bigger than the individual citizen.  Duh.

If life doesn’t begin at conception, why do they call it birth control?

Any govt is bigger than the individual citizen.  Duh.
robert108 on July 4, 2008 at 05:45 pm

Uncle Robert. True that. What do you suggest? No govt at all?

What do you suggest? No govt at all?

If life doesn’t begin at conception, why do they call it birth control?

Reducing the speed limit to 55 is fundamentally defeatist, a tacit admission that America can’t solve the problem.  That is just NOT the case.  We have untapped resources and untapped innovation but the government has to just get out of the way and let us do what we do best.

Timeless Words:

Large amounts of oil and natural gas lay beneath our land and off our shores, untouched because the present administration seems to believe the American people would rather see more regulation, taxes and controls than more energy.

Ronald Reagan Acceptance Speech 1980 RNC Convention.

With that said, Rob, I am confused by your argument:

It seems to me that rising fuel prices are going to do a lot more to conserve gasoline nationally than lowered speed limits.  And what happens if lowering the speed limit does conserve gas?  Demand for gas goes down, then prices go down, then people start to drive more than they would have before, demand goes back up and then finally prices go back up.

Meaning the whole “lower the speed limits” thing is futile in terms of saving gas.

Leave speed limits at levels appropriate for public safety and let the free market handle gas supply and prices.

Doesn’t your argument AGAINST the speed limit also apply to your argument FOR free markets?  If either the speed limit or the free market does lower demand?  You will get the same result.

I think you meant that the free market would work better not that lower prices (because of lower demand) was a bad thing.
DKK

The Nanny State strikes again. No doubt Warner would exempt himself (hey, I’m important and got places to be ya know). Try this one for size Senator: DRILL HERE, DRILL NOW, PAY LESS!

If either the speed limit or the free market does lower demand? You will get the same result.

The free market exists to generate prosperity by supplying all the possible demand at an appropriate price; it doesn’t limit, increase or decrease anything, as it is the aggregate if free people making free choices.  A totalitarian speed limit is the opposite of any sort of free market.  Those who wish to reduce their gasoline consumption are free to drive more slowly.

If life doesn’t begin at conception, why do they call it birth control?

Elianis

What do you suggest? No govt at all?

It’s good to remember that on this holiday weekend, the original federalist government had only THREE purposes in total.  Everything else was up to the states:
To deliver the Mail
To Preserve the Borders
TO conduct foreign Policy on behalf of the states

How are we doing so far.

the AVATAR
Old Tigers are more dangerous when they believe this could be their last hunt.

From , “The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen”
Old tigers, sensing the end,
they’re at their most fierce. 
And they go down fighting.

Robert, I agree with you completely, but that is not what Rob said.  He listed the exact same result of both stated positions (government imposed and free market) as being a if it were only a negative for the government solution. 

Personally I don’t think it is a negative at all but I think the solution lies in the free market.  See the earlier part of my comment above what you quoted.
David

LT:  My position still stands; the free market takes no position on the amount of demand; it exists to supply whatever demand is there.  It’s only govt that wishes to manipulate demand, thus the improper comparison.
The free market leaves demand up to the free choice of the individual citizen.

If life doesn’t begin at conception, why do they call it birth control?

Put down the crack pipe senator and turn your efforts to fixing the actual problem.

Lowering the speed limits would be an additional blow to the economy.