Senate Dems Vote Against Amendment To Guarantee That Americans Keep The Current Insurance

Actions speak louder than words, right? So when Democrats tell us that they intend for us to be able to keep our existing insurance and then turn around and vote against an amendment that would have guaranteed that we’d keep our existing coverage what does that tell us about said Democrats?
From the NRSC (via email):

WASHINGTON – In a vote that should send chills up the spine of those satisfied with their current health insurance, Democrats in the Senate Finance Committee today rejected a Republican amendment that would allow Americans to keep their current health care coverage.
Sponsored by U.S. Senator Orrin Hatch (R-UT), the amendment stated that the implementation of the final health care bill would not take place unless the Secretary of Health and Human Services (HHS) was able to certify before Congress that the legislation would not cause more than 1,000,000 Americans to lose their current coverage.
The amendment was rejected 10-13, with all Republican Senators voting in favor and all Democrats voting against.

Just to be clear on this for North Dakotans, Senator Kent Conrad who promised while he was here at home in North Dakota not to support any bill that would force us away from our existing coverage voted against this.
The reason the Democrats didn’t want to pass this amendment is because there’s no way they could ever certify that the new regulations they want wouldn’t herd people onto the government-created health care co-ops they also want (“co-ops” being what they’re now calling the “public option”). Their goal is to create a health insurance market where the government regulations are so stringent the only real choice most Americans will have is whatever plan the government sets up.
Just like the government-backed entities Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac in the financial world. At the time of the financial industry collapse Fannie and Freddie owned or secured 51% of the $12 trillion mortgage market. That kind of dominating market share doesn’t happen by accident. It happens with government assistance.
And the same would happen with the government created, government managed, government subsidized health-care co-ops. Most of us would end up on them. Not because we’d want to but because we’d be herded there with regulations.

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  • http://www.rabidamerican.net/ Rabid American

    As stated before….

    This is NOT ABOUT HEALTHCARE/HEALTH INSURANCE REFORM!

    It’s about implementing an intrusive, divisive, control mechanism.

    It offers the additional party-favor of being YET ANOTHER THING TO USE AS A CLUB TO BEAT THE STUPIDLY DEPENDENT WITH AT ELECTION TIME!

    Wanna have a burger? NOPE! MEAT IS BAD!!!
    Wanna have a couple beers?? NOPE! IT’S NOT GOOD FOR YOU!!!!
    etc, etc, etc,…………..

    GET IT??

    ATTENTION CONGRESS!!
    NO MEANS NO!!!

  • sayanything-7715

    This is going to be in the ND Media right???

  • tom

    Deleware Dem Senator Kent Conrad votes against N. Dak.citizens. So what else is new?

  • tom

    Gene,Gene,Gene don”t u know that facts are for kids?:)

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    Wait, Conrad promised one thing in North Dakota and voted exactly the opposite in Washington?

    Say it ain’t so, Kent.

  • sayanything-2819

    But, Obama promised. Stamping foot, red in the face and whining.

  • Mickey

    Rabid American is correct.

    Democrats want to own the profit that insurance companies make. This has nothing to do with helping people and everything to do with greed, command and control. These bastards would then siphon the profits into other entitlement programs as well as Democrat controlled pork projects. We all would be paying more and recieving less while our health care would be rationed and mismanaged by incompetent government slugs.

    Vote all Democrats running for reelection out of office in 2010.

  • http://ndgoon.blogspot.com/ goon

    This is going to be in the ND Media right???

    Not hardly and don’t count on it, they ND media won’t report anything that is negative again Comb Over Dorgan, Country Wide Conrad and Earl Pomeroy.

  • DINO

    I’d offer an amendment that anyone could opt out of the health care plan but would then forfeit EVER being able to join in the future. EVER.

    Keep you stems out for good. You’ll be begging to get in later, like you do with all the programs you fought and we’d say, “Fuck no, shitstains, go get yer own insurance!” Then we’d laugh while your premiums broke you as you age and the private system drops your coverage.

  • jhm47

    Dino: What hate-filled gibberish you spew. We conservatives are supposed to be the haters, not you libs, who are supposed to love everyone equally. Guess you just can’t take it when we present you idiots with facts, eh?

  • sbark

    suitepotato…admire the emotion.

    always remember Liberalism is the easist thing there is….it requires zero thinking

    Saul Alsinsky read liberals like a book.. The Alinsky scheme assumes that your activists are ignorant, childish, lazy, and lack-self control. (quote from link below)

    a good read from this Union buster…
    http://www.redstate.com/achance/2009/09/20/defending-against-an-alinsky-campaign/

  • http://Verizon.com/ ND in MD

    “I’d offer an amendment that anyone could opt out of the health care plan but would then forfeit EVER being able to join in the future. EVER.”

    Why be so hard? Your proposal is as mean as those greedy insurance companies and their pre-existing clause requirements. With government run health insurance, let’s let those who want to opt out do so until they get sick or need emergency medical attention and then we can let them join. Just think of the money they could save — why pay for something before you need it? To do otherwise puts you in the same league as greedy insurance companies with their mean-spirited rules and requirements. An I always was told you left wing-nutters we so companionate

  • sayanything-6955

    What a man you are Kent “countrywide” Conrad, lying, two faced, pile of excrement!

    Dorgan and Pomeroy will pay for your mistakes.

  • http://suitepotato.blogspot.com/ sayanything-4808

    Dino is all in favor of government and would trust Obama to store spent fuel rods in his ass, but when the Republicans are in charge, government is the enemy number one of all people.

    Like all libtards, Mangina is entirely selective in his reasoning and in fact does not reason. Anything that appears otherwise is merely sophistry and distraction. In reality all he and people like him do is feel. They just feel themselves superior to everyone else.

    Well, this survivor of the housing projects and welfare is here to tell you they aren’t. They don’t love their fellow man or even themselves. They will gladly engineer the suffering of others if they think they can get something emotional out of it.

    People are just things in their world, existing for no other reason than for them. If they need an ego boost, we are just props for them to use. Not real people with real feelings.

    Here’s your empathic litmus test kids. We spend on welfare an amount equal roughly to $20,000 per year per person of either gender and whatever age from infancy to codger who qualify for welfare. Needless to say, most of those do not actually claim any benefits for they live with relatives, they are room mates, whatever.

    This means that a single mother with two kids is worth $60,000. That woman and her kids will in any given year see MAYBE $15,000 in housing, medical, food and cash. Projects are all built and their upkeep is negligible. Those on welfare don’t actually use a lot of medical resources despite the stories of them using emergency rooms for walk-in issues. They are limited in what they can buy with assistance. Cash is also negligible and spending controlled.

    This means that the family above is collecting 25% of what we the people are paying in to help them out. The majority of our money for welfare goes to the paychecks of white collar state workers who could just as easily work in private business, but do not. We spend at least 75% on what amounts to a welfare program for educated and employable professional people and only a quarter on those whose plight is used to justify all the spending.

    Here’s your test. Should we continue this charade or should we instead give the entirety of that money to those in need in a structured emergency life rebuilding program that gets them educated and employable? A one time five year in and out. You get your GED, a degree, medical, housing, food and a much improved income. After it is over, no more welfare. There’s no need because you have a better start into the workforce than people who had to foot college on their own.

    By doing that we ensure that there’s zero excuse for them being unemployable. We ensure that they can make it out there. We give them the pat on the back and kick in the ass and in that give them their dignity back. We tell them in doing this that they can do it and we won’t hear otherwise.

    Or should we continue things as they are and keep telling them by that that we don’t believe in them? That we don’t think they can? That they are not worth more than the dregs we hand them indefinitely?

    That second one is what Dino and countless thousands of liberal assholes want for the poor. They want it for black people. They want it for everyone. They want you, me, everyone you know to suffer with handouts that they give us as they lie to our faces and arrogantly do so full well knowing we know because they just don’t care and they don’t believe we can do a damn thing about it.

    They’re greedy, selfish, pessimistic, cynical, nihilistic, and all the rest. We are nothing to people like Dino and if Dino had the chance, if all the powers of the universe were laid in his hands, he’d gladly see all of us suffer horribly and die in excruciating agony.

    If his past comments haven’t convinced you he’s a sociopath, you’re either new or not paying attention.

    So if you’re afraid of what the Democrats are up to, you should be. Dino’s sense of things is that the liberals in congress are going to fuck us all and shred out rights and destroy our personal wealth and shatter our futures and that gives him a hard on.

    Anything that makes a sociopath like him orgasmic is not something that will do any of us any good.

    And yet you still joust with him and waste your time.

    While you’re having at the impotent powerless psycho Dino, those whose actions are turning him on and giving him hope for our destruction are working towards that.

    He’s a distraction even if no one in congress sent him here to do it and you’re letting him.

    That’s why I hardly bother coming around here anymore. He and the other libtards with the cooperation of the most prolific regulars have let him and his ilk turn things into a sadomasochistic circle jerk.

    Well, good luck with that. When you figure out how wasting time with Dino is ever going to make things better in Washington, you write that up because it will get a Nobel Prize in physics for bending reality through sheer bloody mindedness.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    Suitepotato, not to jab at you, but do you ever post a comment that’s under 500 words?
    ;-)

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