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Thursday, April 06, 2006

Senate Close To Compromise On Immigration Reform

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The Senate appeared close to breaking the stalemate on immigration reform with a compromise bill that adopts a more restrictive approach to the 11m illegal immigrants in the US, dividing them into three groups that would face different paths to legal status.

Bill Frist, Senate majority leader, called the proposals "a compromise, a negotiated middle ground has been put on the table which says that these 11m people who are here, undocumented people, illegal immigrants, are not a monolithic group".

The compromise bill proposed by Chuck Hagel and Mel Martinez was expected to be endorsed by President George W. Bush. It was welcomed by Senator John McCain, a leading advocate of immigration reform.

Harry Reid, Senate minority leader, said there were still "some obstacles", but added: "I think we're looking like we will be able to dance this afternoon."

The new bill seeks to avoid the appearance of conferring amnesty on illegal immigrants, allowing only those who have been in the US for more than five years to stay in the country to adjust to legal status. Mr Frist said that he was "optimistic after today's vote that with the Hagel-Martinez proposal we can finish a bill that will make America safer and recognises America's interest in legal immigration".

Arlen Specter, chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, said the compromise was "not perfect, the choice we have to make is whether the bill is better than no bill".


I agree with Sen. Specter in that this bill would undoubtedly be better than no bill at all. This is a problem that is reaching the level of a crisis, and we need a solution sooner rather than later.

Here are some specifics about the bill from the article:

Under the Republican proposals, illegal immigrants who have been in the US for more than five years – about two thirds of the 11m - could switch to legal status without leaving the country if they met eight requirements, such as speaking English, having worked for at least three of the last five years and paid all federal and state taxes.

Illegal immigrants in the US for between two and five years can secure a temporary work visa, but must first leave the country. They may apply for legal status later, and have priority over other immigrants applying for green cards. Illegal immigrants in the country for fewer than two years must return home and apply for a temporary worker visa.


When they say "illegal immigrants who have been in the US for more than five years," will this apply to illegall immigrants who jump our border tomorrow? If someone crosses into this country illegally tomorrow will they be granted the opportunity to become legal citizens if they remain undetected for five years? If that's so then this legislation is hogwash and won't do a thing to solve the problems we face. The whole point of reforming immigration is to provide incentive for the illegal immigrants to come here legally. Granting them amnesty if they manage to stay in the country undetected for five years only provides more incentive to illegally immigrate.

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A caller on Rush today asked how they could prove they were here for five years?

Yesterday we were picking on England for giving warnings rather than arresting lawbreakers.  Wouldn’t this amount to the same thing? 

 

The.Whistler on April 6, 2006 at 11:57 am
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The only way allowing some poeple to stay in the country would make any sesnse is if it is combined with siugnificant penaties for employers who willfully ignore immigration law.  If there isn’t a job for them, I can pretty much gurantee you that you won’t get many illegal border hops.

Carrick on April 6, 2006 at 01:42 pm
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The only way allowing some poeple to stay in the country would make any sesnse is if it is combined with siugnificant penaties for employers who willfully ignore immigration law.

I agree, 100%, though I don’t see where allowing illegal immigrants to stay makes sense under any circumstances.

I say we stem the tide at the border and then streamline the deportation process so that those that are here can be shipped out as quickly as possible as we find them. 


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Rob on April 6, 2006 at 01:45 pm
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I’m glad you say the employer has to do it on purpose.

 Did you know that as an employer I’m required to "inspect" a potential employee’s drivers license and Social Security card.  However if they’re fake I can’t do anything about it.  Because that would be discrimination.

So don’t go assuming that employers are the bad guys here.  The government’s responsible for keeping them out of the country but they’re here.  The government issues the legal ID.  However the ID’s they issue are easily faked.  If we fail to hire someone because we doubt their ID we’re discriminating.  I don’t know but do you want to bet whether or not the government would respond to a call that we think there’s an illegal applying for a job.

Plus; when it comes down to it, the government doesn’t really care if you hire an illegal or not.  It’s about having your paperwork in order.  For example employers have been fined for keeping copies of the employee’s ID rather than writing it on the I-9 form.  The informations all there but to a bureaucrat that’s not good enough when they can issue a fine.

 

 

 

The.Whistler on April 6, 2006 at 01:53 pm
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I am thinking a Great Wall of America would be kind of cool. Let’s get to work on it!

Zsa Zsa on April 6, 2006 at 01:57 pm
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They aren’t “illegal aliens.”

They are “Criminal aliens” just by being here unauthorized they are criminals.

I wonder how many of them actually vote compared to how many the politions think vote

Commenting on April 6, 2006 at 03:42 pm
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None of them should be voting, that’s a franchise that should be reserved for people with a legal status.

Seth Williams on April 6, 2006 at 03:53 pm
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Illegal means breaking laws, so illegal immigrants are braking the law .

I think they should be deported.There are  legal immigrants here in the usa that need to work. First and foremost there are Americans that need to work but cant because they come here and undercut the wages that we get. They then go to the social services and apply for all the programs that working americans pay into. I know they have families to take care of but so do we. They need to  go thru the proper channels and become american citizens.

cora on April 27, 2006 at 03:59 pm
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