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Besides, Rob, in this case Sean is right.  Jim Moran IS a jerk and an a**hole.  Don’t forget he was the one that blamed the Jews for the War in Iraq.

How he keeps getting elected in Northern Va. is a surprise to me (my theory is that many of the conservatives living there are not VA state residents, e.g. military personnel)

I don’t particularly care for Hannity (I think he’s a demagogue), but to find out that as a real, live, grown-up person he knows and even uses a word like a**hole neither shocks nor offends me.

Regards…

Missing the point once again.

Once more, that Hannity uses such language isn’t a surprise--and I happen to think Moran is a jerk.

The point is that Hannity and his followers like to pretend Hannity is a responsible journalist.  That’s the point being missed here.

If a Dan Rather or a Tom Brokaw or a Peter Jennings had been taped calling AWOL George a jerk or an a@@hole---the rightwingers’ heads would explode en masse.  But since it’s Fox--the rightwingers will always have an excuse to pardon their leaders.

Don’t forget he was the one that blamed the Jews for the War in Iraq.

Once again, JFH is caught in a lie.

http://www.forward.com/issues/2003/03.03.14/news9.html

Moran’s comment came in response to a question by one audience member during an event at a church in Reston, Va.

“If it were not for the strong support of the Jewish community for this war with Iraq, we wouldn’t be doing this,” Moran said, according to a report in the Reston Connection newspaper. Moran, who has long been criticized by many pro-Israel activists over his record on Middle East issues, reportedly added: “The leaders of the Jewish community are influential enough that they could change the direction of where this is going. And I think they should.”

Moran’s comments were objectionable by themselves without JFH’s embellishment and exaggeration.

JFH: You may wish to contact Carrick Talmadge to inquire about his Aaron-Wallow-in-the-Minutiae defense.

But since Brandon has apparently lived in a rabbit warren, bereft of any media exposure, for the past two decades and can’t seem to recall the rightwings’ many instances where they howled like castrated capuchin monkeys at the slightest hint of perceived media bias, his post above is even more hilarious.

But since Jade doesn’t have an instance to refer back to where somebody on the right got bent out of shape because a network anchor called Bush (or any other Republican for that matter), an A-hole in a secretly taped conversation, his post above amounts to nothing more than idle speculation.

But since Brandon has apparently lived in a rabbit warren, bereft of any media exposure, for the past two decades and can’t seem to recall the rightwings’ many instances where they howled like castrated capuchin monkeys at the slightest hint of perceived media bias, his post above is even more hilarious.

So Brandon asks you for a single example and you return with “There is no media bias”??? Come on, you can do better than that…

Rob, I don’t necessarily think this would turn into anything.  I think you may be assuming there will be outrage against Hannity before any accutally occurs.  Or do you have any evidence anybody is outraged about this? I’d gladly take back my comment if you did…

Dang, I’ve got to proofread better before I post!!

Once again Jadegold throws around the word “lie” despite understanding it’s meaning from an honor code standpoint (ironically in a post that accuses ME of “embellishment and exaggeration")

The two sentances by Moran you quoted say to me that he IS blaming the War on Iraq on the Jewish community.  Whether it’s a “sin of commission” or a “sin of ommission”, he still stated that the War wouldn’t be taking place without the support (or lack of protest) of this community.

Once again, JG assumes that sense HE interpreted my statement a certain way, “I” must have been intending to deceive.

Chuckle.  I knew JFH would employ the Aaron-Too-Dumb-to-Know-Better defense.

In JFH’s comment he claimed Moran “blamed the Jews for the War in Iraq.”

Moran’s quote did nothing of the kind; it wrongly asserted American Jews could influence whether we went to war or not based upon their support or withholding same.

Naturally, JFH then feigns ignorance when caught.

Can I call ‘em or what?

How am I feigning ignorance?  You write that Moran wrongly asserted that:

“American Jews could influence whether we went to war or not based upon their support or withholding same”

Even when Moran is apologizing, he states:
“What I was trying to say is that if more organizations in this country, including religious groups, were more outspoken against war, then I do not think we would be pursuing war as an option.”

How is this not blame?!

Asserting responsibility for an action that a person thinks is bad in my dictionary means “blame” (See also: Kitty Genovese incident).

What am I missing here?… Okay THAT last statement IS feigning ignorance.  So I’ll put it simply:

JG, I’m ASSUMING you think my initial statement was intended to imply that Moran said that the Jews were behind the Iraq war.  If I HAD said that, you’d be correct in admonishing me.

Keep digging that hole, JFH.  I’m sure your ‘explanations’ would have gone over like a lead balloon before an Honor Board.

No problem, JG, let’s go there… my class (along with ‘64) is the key sponser for ethics and ethics training at USNA.  I could talk to some contacts to bring this and other “discussions” we’ve had on Rob’s post up as case studies for Midshipmen to determine the who’s right (if anyone) in these issues… You game?

Certainly, JFH.  For $10,000, I’m available to assist you and others in remedial ethics training.  It’s just a pity you left the Honor Concept at Gate 1.

Let’s be clear on the stipulations of the wager:

JFH lied when he claimed that: Jim Moran blamed the Jews for the war in Iraq.

JG, is this your accusation?

Did I say ‘wager’ on this thread, JFH? Did I mention ‘bet’ on this thread?

Or did you get caught lying again, JFH?

I’m beginning to believe I’m providing you some kind of gratification by catching you in a lie.  It’s kind of..icky.

Hot diggity!!! Now, we’re talkin’ give me a coupld of days to get a 10K check together and a centra; bank account to place the funds and we’re there!

My “winnings” will go to the ethics fund so at least you can take the tax deduction, it’s up to you to do the same… I’m excited about this debate, let’s go forward!

Hmm.. my entry states: … “You game?”

Followed by your entry:  “Certainly, JFH. For $10,000”

I’d call that a wager or a bet… heck, I’ll give you two to one odds… come on! put your money where your mouth is, “Academy” grad....  shoot, lower the bet, like I offered to your previous bet, if you’re a little uncertain of your position (No less than 2K to my 1K, otherwise it’s not worth my while… I’ll donate the equivalent for far less work)

The point is that Hannity and his followers like to pretend Hannity is a responsible journalist. That’s the point being missed here.

Um… isn’t he an analyst, not a news reporter?  Analysts are supposed to have opinions.

As for you teaching ethics?!  What a laugh.

JG says:

JFH: You may wish to contact Carrick Talmadge to inquire about his Aaron-Wallow-in-the-Minutiae defense.

I’m not sure why Aaron’s name keeps popping up in JGs comments.  Must be some kind of Turet’s Syndrome manifesting itself. Or perhaps he’s just a sexist prick.

I suppose the “wallow-in-the-minutiae” refers to the drubbing he got when he showed his ignorance of perjury law, or perhaps he was talking his abysmal claim that airports are primary entry points for shipping. Or maybe when I exposed him to be a complete liar and total fraud.

I suppose for JG, “minutiae” is defined as “facts contradicting JGs ill-informed but highly-opinionated self”.

Now, I’ll return the floor to JGH, so that he can continue using JadeGold like the toilet brush JG is.

I’m one of the liberal bloggers that Rob linked to in his article, and I think he missed what I was getting at.

The point isn’t that Hannity is a mean individual.  He doesn’t have to swear to show that; Nice people don’t cut their guests’ mikes. 

And I wasn’t upset that Hannity called Moran an asshole—gleeful would be a better word. My point is that I was thrilled that someone knocked Hannity off of his game so much that he cursed into an open mike.  I wanted to reward good behavior.  Same thing for Patrick Leahy.  Anyone who can make the VP use profanity on the floor of the Senate is my kind of Senator. I sent him an attaboy as well.  If Adam Clymer ever decides to run for anything, he has my support.

If you read through the Newshounds post, the FarLeft post or my original post, you’ll see that none of us are fainting in mock horror over Hannity’s choice of words.  WE are not the party that gets the vapors every time Ludacris raps, Howard Stern pushes the envelope or someone says “Happy Holidays” instead of Merry Christmas.

And if you didn’t get it, the Kos post about Cheney eating a baby was a joke.

Naturally I expect to be charged with lying by that twitty little dumbass JadeGold, but I typo’d.  I said

Now, I’ll return the floor to JGH, ...

Naturally, I meant JFH.

JG: “The point is that Hannity and his followers like to pretend Hannity is a responsible journalist. That’s the point being missed here.”

Are you going to respond to Carrick’s comment?

To reiterate, Hannity is NOT A JOURNALIST.  He is a political commentator, and one who is unabashedly Republican.  He does not try to con people into believing he is “neutral”, the way the mainstream media reporters do. 

Why on earth should he pretend to be a “responsible journalist” when people who are supposed to be journalists themselves are irresponsible?

I’ve listened to Hannity for about 7 years now; long before he went national, even when he did his late-night show.

He’s never pretended to be non-biased.  However, even though he is unapologetically Republican, he highlights his complaints about the current Administration and does not down play them (to wit: domestic spending, lack of border control).

True, he isn’t neutral, but he isn’t blind either

Carrick had a comment, mamapj?

Hannity works for FoxNews.  If you go to the FoxNews website--there’s Sean Hannity.

And if you didn’t get it, the Kos post about Cheney eating a baby was a joke.

Yes.  Hilarious stuff.

The war against illegal plunder has been fought since the beginning of the world. But how is… legal plunder to be identified? Quite simply. See if the law takes from some persons what belongs to them, and gives it to other persons to whom it does not belong. See if the law benefits one citizen at the expense of another by doing what the citizen himself cannot do without committing a crime. Then abolish this law without delay … If such a law is not abolished immediately it will spread, multiply and develop into a system.

Frédéric Bastiat, The Law

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JadeGold says:

Hannity works for FoxNews. If you go to the FoxNews website–there’s Sean Hannity.

Wow, that’s deep! 

Did you spend all night thinking that up on your own, or did your mommy help you?

Carrick: So, if I were to look at the University of Stars ‘n’ Bars catalog under the faculty section and see your name--I should assume you’re not part of the faculty?

But why wallow in the minutiae?

JadeGold the Pitiful drools

Carrick: So, if I were to look at the University of Stars ‘n’ Bars catalog under the faculty section and see your name–I should assume you’re not part of the faculty?

You really need to talk to your mommy.  She can explain the difference between a news reporter and a news analyst.

But why wallow in the minutiae?

Well you know, they used to say “God is in the details”.  But, I agree.  You should avoid minutiae, like “factual statements”.  It could adversely affect your already limited cognitive function.

In the mean time, I will continue to enjoy watching you drag your heros through the mud while trying to defend them.  I could never have tarred and feathered Clinton any worse than you did while you were carrying on with your high-school-freshman level of argument about perjury. 

“Minutiae”?  Sometimes you are just too funny!!!

Carrick: So what you seem to be saying is that news reporters cannot be biased but news analysts can.

How enlightening and convenient.

Unfortunately, you aren’t telling the truth; no big surprise here.

According to the BLS (http://bls.gov/oco/ocos088.htm):

News analysts, reporters, and correspondents play a key role in our society. They gather information, prepare stories, and make broadcasts that inform us about local, State, national, and international events; present points of view on current issues; and report on the actions of public officials, corporate executives, special-interest groups, and others who exercise power.

News analysts examine, interpret, and broadcast news received from various sources. They also are called newscasters or news anchors. News anchors present news stories and introduce videotaped news or live transmissions from on-the-scene reporters. Some newscasters at large stations and networks specialize in a particular type of news, such as sports or weather. Weathercasters, also called weather reporters, report current and forecasted weather conditions. They gather information from national satellite weather services, wire services, and local and regional weather bureaus. Some weathercasters are trained meteorologists and can develop their own weather forecasts. (See the statement on atmospheric scientists elsewhere in the Handbook.) Sportscasters select, write, and deliver sports news. This may include interviews with sports personalities and coverage of games and other sporting events.

In covering a story, reporters investigate leads and news tips, look at documents, observe events at the scene, and interview people. Reporters take notes and also may take photographs or shoot videos. At their office, they organize the material, determine the focus or emphasis, write their stories, and edit accompanying video material. Many reporters enter information or write stories on laptop computers, and electronically submit the material to their offices from remote locations. In some cases, newswriters write a story from information collected and submitted by reporters. Radio and television reporters often compose stories and report “live� from the scene. At times, they later tape an introduction to or commentary on their story in the studio. Some journalists also interpret the news or offer opinions to readers, viewers, or listeners. In this role, they are called commentators or columnists.

General assignment reporters write about newsworthy occurrences, such as an accident, a political rally, the visit of a celebrity, or a company going out of business, as assigned. Large newspapers and radio and television stationsassign reporters to gather news about specific topics or “beats,� such as crime or education. Some reporters specialize in fields such as health, politics, foreign affairs, sports, theater, consumer affairs, social events, science, business, or religion. Investigative reporters cover stories that may take many days or weeks of information gathering. Some publications use teams of reporters instead of assigning specific beats, allowing reporters to cover a greater variety of stories. News teams may include reporters, editors, graphic artists, and photographers, working together to complete a story.

News correspondents report on news occurring in the large U.S. and foreign cities where they are stationed. Reporters on small publications cover all aspects of the news. They take photographs, write headlines, lay out pages, edit wire service stories, and write editorials. Some also solicit advertisements, sell subscriptions, and perform general office work.

the lying republicans harp all the time about morals and traditional values. so, when a lying republican calls a congressman an asshole or when the vp tells a congressman to “f%#k off�, i think it should be called to attention.

I’m very conservative (who’da thunk it?) but I’ve never been too offended by profanity.  I don’t think it’s something that should be used in daily language, but there is a time and a place for foul language.  Dick Cheney’s use of the F word was fully appropriate, I believe.  The only time I get offended by profanity is when it’s in my face and without reason (such as someone telling you about their trip to the mall including the fbomb 15 times for no apparent reason)

So in this case, I don’t believe the moral thing is necessarily abstaining from profanity but rather restraining it.

JadeGold says:

Unfortunately, you aren’t telling the truth; no big surprise here.

Pardon me?  You know how to tell truth from fiction?  Ha ha ha ha!  Stop!  You’re slaying me!

Nice link.  The writing was about the quality of the Weekly Reader, so you should have no trouble understanding it.  Let us know if you need help with any of the big words.

Here is an exercise when you are done in order to earn your AR points:

1) How many times does your linked article use the word “bias”?
2) How many instances are there in the linked article discusses the need for objectivity on the part of new analysts?

Answers (no fair peaking!) 1:0 2:0

you’re missing the point.  the lying republicans harp all the time about morals and traditional values.  so, when a lying republican calls a congressman an asshole or when the vp tells a congressman to “f%#k off”, i think it should be called to attention.

the first time you see a democrat talking about morals this and morals that and doing something like bill o’reilly and the phone sex bit, i’ll be just as pissed.

lefty,

So in other words: rules for thee but not for me.

That’s what you’re saying.

likwidshoe,

it is fun to be a Democrat, but not for the reason you implied. 

you see, liberals do have morals.  but like windycity said, we don’t have a heart attack when a rapper curses or an actress is nude in movie. 

here is what i’ve typed about three times already but will do so once again - PRACTICE WHAT YOU PREACH.  if YOU preach it, YOU should practice it.  if YOU are a hypocrit, YOU should be called out on it.  nowhere in that do i mention political parties.  see?  it has nothing to do with that.  it has everything to do with PRACTICING WHAT YOU PREACH.  that’s it.  it’s that simple.  i need to remember that you have to take things slow with ‘publicans b/c they ain’t too smart.

lefty

i need to remember that you have to take things slow with ‘publicans b/c they ain’t too smart

Whatever lefty.  This is the kind of condescension that turns me off to any kind of message you have.  Good job.

lefty keeps on excusing his behavior, “why is it that us ‘leftist secular liberals’ have to keep you guys in line with what it means to be a christian?”

I’m agnostic and the owner of this website, Rob, is atheist.  You’re barking up the wrong tree.

So what you’re saying there chief, is that I can have no morals and am therefore able to call out everyone and this is not hypocritical! It must be fun to be a Democrat.

likwidshoe,

yes, in a way, that is what i mean.  on the flip side, if a democrat who talked about the environment and then was found to be involved in a big corporation that polluted and broke environmental laws, it would be a big deal, right?  if a lying republican was found to have ties to a corporation who abused the environment (and, hey...good luck trying to find one who ISN’T, right?) it wouldn’t be a story.  see? 

in other words, practice what you preach.

lefty

lefty,

So you preach rules for thee but none for me.  Thanks for clearing that up chief.

Being a Democrat means never having to say you’re sorry.

likwidshoe,

can you read?  you’re putting words in my mouth...err...fingertips...whatever. 

democrats should practice what they preach:  care about the environment (i.e. not drive hummers), support free speech, work for equal rights for minorities, prefer diplomacy over war (senator lieberman doesn’t really get that one), etc. etc.  when democrats don’t practice what THEY preach, they should be called out.  if you find a democrat who harps about morals like hannity does and then calls someone an asshole or says that he “hates these people,” lemme know.  i’ll write a post about it. 

republicans should do the same: if you harp about morals, try having some.  telling someone to f#%k off is not traditional christian values, mr. cheney.  having phone sex with an employee is not traditional christian values, mr. o’reilly.  and calling someone an “asshole” and saying “i hate these people” - that ain’t Christian either, mr. hannity.  why is it that us “leftist secular liberals” have to keep you guys in line with what it means to be a christian? 

NOW, do you get it?

lefty

likwidshoe,

you’re not very playful, are you?  you have responded with sarcasm in every single response you’ve written.  i repeat myself five times and say that ‘publicans aren’t smart and you’re done, now? 

maybe you’re offended or hurt or maybe you just don’t know what to say, eh?

lefty

maybe you’re offended or hurt or maybe you just don’t know what to say, eh?

I just don’t play for very long with mental midgets.  It gets boring fast.  You dig?

likwidshoe,

yes, i dig.  and i’d love for you to show where the logic is wrong in what i’ve said.  doesn’t it make sense to you? 

i’ve pointed out where i think you are getting it wrong.  just figured you would extend the same courtesy. 

i’ve directed my readers (all 2 of them) to this post, so here is your chance to make me look foolish.

lefty

yes, i dig. and i’d love for you to show where the logic is wrong in what i’ve said. doesn’t it make sense to you?

Yes lefty.  I can see what you’re saying.  Practice what you preach and whatnot. 

What I find funny is that you’re exempt from all of it because you don’t “preach” it.  You’re free to misbehave and act as you please because, hey,..you’re covered.  This is why Sean Hannity can not call someone an asshole (not “Christian”, you say), but Dean can call Republicans “brain dead” and proclaim that he “hate[s] all Republicans and everything they stand for”.  While you’re busy telling me that Democrats really do have morals, you pause long enough to say that “you have to take things slow with ‘publicans b/c they ain’t too smart”.  Hey, you’re covered right?

Now I’m done with you.  When you’re not being generally insulting on this board, you’re personally insulting me on your website.

likwidshoe,

???  i thought you wanted to stop our conversation.  i’m more than happy to continue.  how about sharing the wealth a bit and talking over at a la gauche? just a thought.

but i am a bit sleepy.  not sure where you are, but it’s after 3AM here in the ATL.  and i have to work tomorrow, which sucks.  keep in touch!

lefty

i think you’re being a bit touchy.

I guess lefty does what most Democrats do when people say things that make sense - defers blame, closes his eyes real tight and then runs along.

i thought you wanted to stop our conversation

A few things needed clarified.  And you responded in a mature fashion and that’s enough for me to continue.

how about sharing the wealth a bit and talking over at a la gauche? just a thought.

I would.  But you see, you’ve already pegged me as a “lying Republican” and you have a list of litanies and suppositions about me and the Republican party in general that simply aren’t true.  Instead of heading over to your domain and defending my character right off the bat, I’ll instead stay away.  The funny thing about it is that you appear to be someone who can be easily conversed with.  If you dropped a lot of the rhetoric, I’m willing to bet that your site would be more popular and people on the other side of the aisle from you would be more willing to have discussions.

but i am a bit sleepy. not sure where you are, but it’s after 3AM here in the ATL. and i have to work tomorrow, which sucks. keep in touch!

Egh..I’ll talk to you later.  Eastern time zone as well and it’s getting late.

lefty says, “and for the record, i did not personally insult likwidshoe on my blog. go check for yourself if you care. i won’t call that a LIE on his part, but maybe just a misunderstanding.”

What was said,
“I guess this guy does what most ‘publicans do when people say things that make sense - puts his fingers in his ears, closes his eyes real tight and hums.”

I guess it was a “misunderstanding” that I took that as insulting. 

Whatever.

i think you’re being a bit touchy.  anyhow, i wasn’t in the room with you, so i was just guessing.  nothing more of any substance is being said now (hardly was to begin with...but it was fun), so i guess we should do as you suggested, and just call it quits. 

hope there are no hard feelings.  ciao.

likwidshoe,

ok, well if you’re done, i’ll go ahead and take the last word, just for the hell of it. 

i’m not exempt from all of it, as you said.  there is a right and a wrong.  if i walked up to someone and kicked them in the stomach, that would be wrong, whether or not i had come out publicly against kicking people in the stomach or not.  it’s just wrong.  i don’t think calling someone an asshole is one of those things that is just wrong.  i don’t even think saying that you hate someone is one of those things that is wrong.  when it comes down to it, we usually don’t mean that we actually hate someone when we say that.

HOWEVER, if one makes a point of talking about something over and over, as hannity does morals and religion, he should live up to it.  this isn’t one of those cases of right v. wrong.  it’s a case of hypocrisy.  the sad thing is that hypocrisy doesn’t even carry much weight anymore.  people don’t seem bothered by it.  the point is this - hannity is a hypocrit. 

and like another person wrote, if someone on CNN or ABC or CBS had called...let’s say...Tom Delay an asshole and said that “i hate these people” when referring to ‘publicans, don’t you think it there would be an outcry from the right? 

sorry you’re done, likwid.  it was nice.

and for the record, i did not personally insult likwidshoe on my blog.  go check for yourself if you care.  i won’t call that a LIE on his part, but maybe just a misunderstanding. 

lefty

likwidshoe nailed it with this comment.

And what’s this practicing what you preach? Buddy, you really need to take a long look in the mirror.  You hop into this blog thinking we’re a bunch of redneck bible thumpers.  Well, I’m calling you on that, ‘cause prejuding people is a no-no in liberal circles (and in mine too).

You lump all of “the enemy” together as bunch of closed-minded religious zealots, and resort to name calling us simply because we see the world in a different way than you.

Shit man, I thought you guys liked diversity?  My bad.  Group think it is.  Where’s my Marilyn Manson when I need him.

krusty,

where did i say y’all were rednecks and bible thumpers?  and i wasn’t talking about YOU or anyone else on this board anyhow.  look at the title of the post, BUDDY.  it’s about s-e-a-n h-a-n-n-i-t-y.  i’m seriously beginning to get worried about literacy amongst ‘publicans.

and when i have said something about the “lying republicans” or whatever, it’s partly in jest.  calm down, please. 

and the problem i was having with likwid wasn’t that he sees the world in a different way.  it was that he wasn’t hearing what i was trying to say.  the point was hypocrisy.  maybe i’m just not doing a good job of getting my point across? 

lefty

Lefty:  I can find plenty of examples where you were jumping to conclusions:

How about why is it that us “leftist secular liberals� have to keep you guys in line with what it means to be a christian?

And how about Likwidshoe’s snag from your own blog:“I guess this guy does what most ‘publicans do when people say things that make sense - puts his fingers in his ears, closes his eyes real tight and hums.â€?

And: and when i have said something about the “lying republicans� or whatever, it’s partly in jest. calm down, please.

Finally: look at the title of the post, BUDDY. [..] i’m seriously beginning to get worried about literacy amongst ‘publicans. I ain’t yer buddy till aw’ve tossed up on yer boots, but good thang you weren’t in da room when you say-id that last part, or aw’d had-ta pull yer eyes out and feed ‘em to my old hunting dog.

And when I say all Democrats are straight-jacketed marajoo’wana-smokin’ short-term-memory-challenged think-a-likes with fat-bloated tongue accents, not only do I say it (thick fake southern accent invoked) “Pawtly in Jay-est” but “Aw also mean it as a good thang.” Or was that “in dem best pos’ble way”.

An’ like all goo-id Sud’nern Bible thump’rs, aw shore does like ma countra musaac. Jes’ don’ get buried in ya’lls own BS, ya hear?

Anyway, what made you thank we were all that happy with Sean shooting his big time mouth to start with?  I for one, do wish he would put a bit of a leash on it (enough so I never watch him anymore).  I thought you said you weren’t jumping to conclusions?

krusty,

i’m sorry you woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning.  i don’t see how i’ve jumped to conclusions anywhere in the statements you made.  and i never applied my statements to all of you.  (also, for the future, it’s y’all, not ya’ll).  but whatev.

it seems like we agree that hannity was wrong to have said what he said.  that was my point, in the first place.

and also, why is it such a problem that i play with the ‘publicans in calling them a few names?  they call liberals names all the time, even demonizing the word liberal, itself...to the point that some sissy democrats (republican lite democrats) refuse to call themselves liberals anymore.  i haven’t cried about that.

lefty

lefty said, “(also, for the future, it’s y’all, not ya’ll)”

Some of us use ”ya’ll”.  This is funny though.

and also, why is it such a problem that i play with the ‘publicans in calling them a few names?

If you have a criticism, make it.  Names are petty and immature.

...they call liberals names all the time,...

There’s something to be said for lowering yourself to someone else’s level.

...even demonizing the word liberal...

You mean cultural Marxist, not liberal.  That’s what liberalism is about these days.  Cultural Marxism is a nasty and evil way of organizing your life.  It deserves to be demonized.  A life of socialism and class struggle is not pretty.

...to the point that some sissy democrats (republican lite democrats) refuse to call themselves liberals anymore.

Bingo.  The traditional liberals are starting to recognize that there’s been a split.  It’s more a split in language though.  The cultural Marxists have redefined the word liberal.

JG: “Carrick had a comment, mamapj?

Hannity works for FoxNews. If you go to the FoxNews website–there’s Sean Hannity.”

Very, very good, JG.  Now repeat after me: Hannity is employed by FoxNews as a political COMMENTATOR, not as a journalist.

Geez Lefty.  What happened to your vaunted sense of humor?  I wasn’t serious about pulling your eyes out.  I would have ... oh, never mind.

Left then says

and also, why is it such a problem that i play with the ‘publicans in calling them a few names? they call liberals names all the time

Here’s the argument used in grade school all the time when one little boy calls another boy a name.  So is this the level you want to play at?  Anyway, you liberals are ten times worse than the ‘pubs in name calling.  You should read some of what your leaders got to say… some pretty damn nasty stuff…

it seems like we agree that hannity was wrong to have said what he said. that was my point, in the first place.

So next time make the point without the name calling, and you won’t get shit back in your face.

This blog is for grownups.  We have a few resident trolls, but we keep them around for sport.  Act like an adult, and we’ll take you serious.

Y’all and ya’ll both appear in print.  I’ll leave it to a linguist to tell us why it’s spelled differently in different regions.

"Being a Democrat means never having to say you’re sorry.”

That’s so right it’s not even funny.
Being of the ‘Right’ persuasion means personal responsibility is taken for ones actions.  Every liberal I have ever know will never confess that they were wrong on an issue, it’s always someone else’s fault.

If I make a mistake and someone calls me on it, I don’t shift the blame.

Every liberal I have ever know will never confess that they were wrong on an issue, it’s always someone else’s fault.

Especially if you’re Jadegold...

[...] 1 Comments:That’s beautiful. Googlebombs for everyone! By agitprop, at4/05/2005 12:14:45 AM  Post a Commentback to a la gauche | a la gauche document.write(""); if (++post_counter % 3 == 0) document.write(""); document.write(""); Practice What You Preach by lefty4/02/2005Rob, over at Say Anything, responded to my post about Sean Hannity calling Congressman Moran an asshole. He didn’t think it was a big deal, especially in comparison to some things that Governor Dean has said. What he, and a fella calling himself “likwidshoe,” just don’t get is that this isn’t about Hannity cursing; it’s about Hannity being a hypocrit. I’ve been having a little conversation with likwidshoe, trying to explain to him that one must practice what one preaches. Read this:read the full post...lefty wrote:you’re missing the point. the lying republicans harp all the time about morals and traditional values. so, when a lying republican calls a congressman an asshole or when the vp tells a congressman to “f%#k off”, i think it should be called to attention.the first time you see a democrat talking about morals this and morals that and doing something like bill o’reilly and the phone sex bit, i’ll be just as pissed.And this is what he responds with...likwidshoe wrote:lefty,So in other words: rules for thee but not for me.That’s what you’re saying. What is this guy talking about? I never said that. lefty wrote:likwidshoe,yes, in a way, that is what i mean. on the flip side, if a democrat who talked about the environment and then was found to be involved in a big corporation that polluted and broke environmental laws, it would be a big deal, right? if a lying republican was found to have ties to a corporation who abused the environment (and, hey…good luck trying to find one who ISN’T, right?) it wouldn’t be a story. see?in other words, practice what you preach.lefty likwidshoe wrote:lefty,So you preach rules for thee but none for me. Thanks for clearing that up chief.Being a Democrat means never having to say you’re sorry. I guess this guy does what most ‘publicans do when people say things that make sense - puts his fingers in his ears, closes his eyes real tight and hums. lefty wrote:likwidshoe,can you read? you’re putting words in my mouth…err…fingertips…whatever.democrats should practice what they preach: care about the environment (i.e. not drive hummers), support free speech, work for equal rights for minorities, prefer diplomacy over war (senator lieberman doesn’t really get that one), etc. etc. when democrats don’t practice what THEY preach, they should be called out. if you find a democrat who harps about morals like hannity does and then calls someone an asshole or says that he “hates these people,” lemme know. i’ll write a post about it.republicans should do the same: if you harp about morals, try having some. telling someone to f#%k off is not traditional christian values, mr. cheney. having phone sex with an employee is not traditional christian values, mr. o’reilly. and calling someone an “asshole” and saying “i hate these people” - that ain’t Christian either, mr. hannity. why is it that us “leftist secular liberals” have to keep you guys in line with what it means to be a christian?NOW, do you get it?lefty likwidshoe wrote:lefty keeps on excusing his behavior, “why is it that us ‘leftist secular liberals’ have to keep you guys in line with what it means to be a christian?”I’m agnostic and the owner of this website, Rob, is atheist. You’re barking up the wrong tree.So what you’re saying there chief, is that I can have no morals and am therefore able to call out everyone and this is not hypocritical! It must be fun to be a Democrat. You’ll have to go over to Say Anything to read the rest.[read the post and comments] 4 comments   [...]