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I’m amazed that it’s the Democrats who are able to look beyond partisanship and judge this fairly. (Does the internet accurately convey my sarcasm?)

You said “Democrats” (plural)! That’s funny!

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Good for Terry. I agree with his sentiments exactly, it just always looks like sour grapes (especially so when you were shown the door) and somebody trying to make some cash. I maybe can’t blame them for wanting to make a little extra scratch, but don’t ask me to believe you don’t sensationalize or use artistic license when remembering events.

“Over the last 15 months, we’ve traveled to every corner of the United States. I’ve now been in 57 states? I think one left to go.”

Although I am Dem, McAuliffe is just trying to get more middle of the road votes for Republican Hilary.

You don’t need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows

                                Bob Dylan

And Todd, you mean all that democrat fairness that is still bitching about Bush firing 8 US attorneys, but didn’t raise a whimper when Clinton canned 93 of them. Of course, to the left, when Clinton did it it was under the guise of the attorneys serving at the leisure of the president. Is my sarcasm coming through on the internet.

“Over the last 15 months, we’ve traveled to every corner of the United States. I’ve now been in 57 states? I think one left to go.”

Publishers have a way of encouraging individuals to make the story more interesting. (MONEY) Most people know and understand this when a tell all kind of book comes out. I don’t think anyone reeeeeally cares what he thinks. HA!

“Republican Hilary”????

True leftie insanity for all to see.

If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

I don’t think anyone reeeeeally cares what he thinks. HA!

If no one cares, why were the Bush lackeys all over cable news the last couple of days ripping this guy. Even his ex-head lackey Ari Fleischer made the rounds.

You don’t need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows

                                Bob Dylan

I think most of the talk shows like conflict. So they bring guests who can supply it. BUT really, why would Ari Fleischer dispute scotty?  For political reasons, or more personal ones?  What does Ari gain politically by doing this?  He’s not seeking votes.  Maybe he has more of a clue than little scotty.

It’s telling when people attack Scott’s character and not the facts of the book. Hypocrisy is evident knowing the Republican reaction to George Stephanopoulos’s book which was published during the second term of Bill Clinton’s presidency.

Ari Fleischer is a member (founder?) of a wingnut neo-con lobbying group.

He is pounding his chest in hopes that other nutters send him money.

Telling one lie or even consistently lying about one subject…doesn’t make you a liar…

robert108 on May 18, 2009 at 03:23 pm

“You have absolutely no reason, none, to trust our word or our actions at this point.”

Titular gop Head Mr. Steele

It’s telling when people attack Scott’s character and not the facts of the book.

The “facts” of McClellan’s book are that he wasn’t in any of the meetings that he claims to know about.  He wasn’t privy to anything he claims to be an authority on.  In other words, he’s lying.

If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

Good for McAuliffe. We need more Dems like him.

It’s all political bullshit. Liberals (and Robert108) lie and spin and twist and obscure and distract and cheat to protect their guys and hurt the opposing team. It’s like wrestling. They distract the ref while their team mate hits you with a chair. There’s no rule they won’t break, no law they won’t skirt, no crime they won’t forgive as long as they can win.

The “facts” of McClellan’s book are that he wasn’t in any of the meetings that he claims to know about.  He wasn’t privy to anything he claims to be an authority on.  In other words, he’s lying.

How do you know?
Were you there?

Telling one lie or even consistently lying about one subject…doesn’t make you a liar…

robert108 on May 18, 2009 at 03:23 pm

“You have absolutely no reason, none, to trust our word or our actions at this point.”

Titular gop Head Mr. Steele

Those meetings were above his pay grade.  Duh.  He wasn’t hired as either a foreign policy advisor or a military strategist.  Are you really that dumb?(he said, already knowing the answer)

If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

Were you there?

Telling one lie or even consistently lying about one subject…doesn’t make you a liar…

robert108 on May 18, 2009 at 03:23 pm

“You have absolutely no reason, none, to trust our word or our actions at this point.”

Titular gop Head Mr. Steele

Were you there, RBB? Do tell!

I am not proclaiming Puffy to be a liar, Bob, you are.

‘Were you there’ is an argument you have proffered many times in when attacking someone else’s statement. It makes perfect sense to use it now.

So, were you there?

Telling one lie or even consistently lying about one subject…doesn’t make you a liar…

robert108 on May 18, 2009 at 03:23 pm

“You have absolutely no reason, none, to trust our word or our actions at this point.”

Titular gop Head Mr. Steele

It makes perfect sense to use it now.

No, it doesn’t, since Scott’s job was well-known, and it wasn’t either “foreign policy advisor” or “military strategist”.  It’s called a logical argument, dude.  You might try it sometime, instead of your usual juvenile “tit for tat” crap.

If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

Bob, were you there?

Telling one lie or even consistently lying about one subject…doesn’t make you a liar…

robert108 on May 18, 2009 at 03:23 pm

“You have absolutely no reason, none, to trust our word or our actions at this point.”

Titular gop Head Mr. Steele

robert108,

Scott McClellan: I did fill in for my predecessor at times, and even participated in some White House Iraq Group, or WHIG meetings. WHIG was set up as the marketing arm for selling the war to the public.

The spin that McClellan had no knowledge about what was going on in the White House is laughable.

He wasn’t hired as either a foreign policy advisor or a military strategist.

No shit. He has continually claimed that he was no part of the military planning for Iraq. His claims are about the Bush Administration’s use of ‘propaganda’, CIA leak investigation

Zsa Zsa,

Were you there, RBB? Do tell!

That would have been a slick comment only if realitybasedbob has used his psychic skills as robert108 has done to know exactly what meetings McClellan has gone to in the White House.

robert108,

No, it doesn’t, since Scott’s job was well-known, and it wasn’t either “foreign policy advisor” or “military strategist”.

Richard Clarke was the chief counter-terrorism advisor and he has also written a book about Bush’s grave mistakes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Against_All_Enemies

I never said he had “no knowledge about what was going on in the White House”, that’s your spin.  I said he wasn’t a part of any of the vital secret meetings, so he had no knowledge that what was told to the public was false; he is making that up.
Since the only information we have about what he knows comes from his mouth, the real question to ask him is: “Were you lying then, or are you lying now?”  Either way, he’s a liar, and definitely not to be trusted.
President Bush is known for his loyalty to his employees, so if “Scotty” was let go, it was for a very good reason.
You just want to believe this crap, because you hate the President.

If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

Richard Clarke was the chief counter-terrorism advisor and he has also written a book about Bush’s grave mistakes.

Actually, they were his “grave mistakes”, and he’s trying to cover his ass by blaming the President.

If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

robert108,

It’s called a logical argument, dude.

No. Your premise, “he wasn’t in any of the meetings that he claims to know about” is false, therefore the conclusion ‘he’s lying’ is a fallacy.

No shit. He has continually claimed that he was no part of the military planning for Iraq. His claims are about the Bush Administration’s use of ‘propaganda’, CIA leak investigation

As we know who “leaked” Valerie Plame, and that he wasn’t a huge Iraq war fan…McClellan’s claims are already bogus. Whether or not he was in those meetings are irrelevant. As Robert claimed, he has to admit to lying to come out and sell this book. Who trusts a self admitted liar?

It’s all political bullshit. Liberals (and Robert108) lie and spin and twist and obscure and distract and cheat to protect their guys and hurt the opposing team. It’s like wrestling. They distract the ref while their team mate hits you with a chair. There’s no rule they won’t break, no law they won’t skirt, no crime they won’t forgive as long as they can win.

August 6, 2001 “Bin Ladin Determined to Strike in US,”

It happened on bush’s watch.

He had warnings.

He did nothing.

Telling one lie or even consistently lying about one subject…doesn’t make you a liar…

robert108 on May 18, 2009 at 03:23 pm

“You have absolutely no reason, none, to trust our word or our actions at this point.”

Titular gop Head Mr. Steele

No. Your premise, “he wasn’t in any of the meetings that he claims to know about” is false, therefore the conclusion ‘he’s lying’ is a fallacy.

Wrong.  Those are both conclusions, based on the premise that Scotty had no access to any information that would support his claims.  Another conclusion: he’s making it up.

If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

As we know who “leaked” Valerie Plame…

Didja read where Puffy has bush admitting to authorizing the leak?

Telling one lie or even consistently lying about one subject…doesn’t make you a liar…

robert108 on May 18, 2009 at 03:23 pm

“You have absolutely no reason, none, to trust our word or our actions at this point.”

Titular gop Head Mr. Steele

rbb: Clinton did nothing from ‘93 to ‘01, thus kicking the can of Al Qaeda terrorism down the road, with the now-known results.  Had Clinton gone after Al Qaeda after the ‘93 WTC bombing, there would have been no 9/11, and probably no Iraq War.  Clinton made it necessary by his spineless approach to terrorism: he ignored it.

If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

rbb: Hate to break it to you, but OBL is still determined to strike in the US.  The difference is that we have a President now who is killing the terrorists and foiling their plans, instead of diddling an intern when he should have been going after Al Qaeda.

If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

Didja read where Puffy has bush admitting to authorizing the leak?

Now we know he’s a liar, since Armitage(no friend of this administration) has already admitted to doing it.

He’s making things up, just like you do, rbb.

If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

What did your beloved bush do on August 7th after reading the PDB “Bin Ladin Determined to Strike in US”?

How many security meetings were held before September 11?

bush failed us.

Telling one lie or even consistently lying about one subject…doesn’t make you a liar…

robert108 on May 18, 2009 at 03:23 pm

“You have absolutely no reason, none, to trust our word or our actions at this point.”

Titular gop Head Mr. Steele

rbb: Hate to break it to you, but OBL is still determined to strike in the US.

Bob, hate to break it to you, but your boy is on record saying:

“I don’t know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don’t care. It’s not that important. It’s not our priority.” —Washington, D.C., March 13, 2002

Gosh, I don’t think I ever said I wasn’t worried about Osama bin Laden…It’s kinda one of those exaggerations.

Telling one lie or even consistently lying about one subject…doesn’t make you a liar…

robert108 on May 18, 2009 at 03:23 pm

“You have absolutely no reason, none, to trust our word or our actions at this point.”

Titular gop Head Mr. Steele

Now we know he’s a liar, since Armitage(no friend of this administration) has already admitted to doing it.

Doing it and authorizing it…two very different things.

Telling one lie or even consistently lying about one subject…doesn’t make you a liar…

robert108 on May 18, 2009 at 03:23 pm

“You have absolutely no reason, none, to trust our word or our actions at this point.”

Titular gop Head Mr. Steele

RBB -  Do you really want to be on record ascribing all blame for 9-11 on President Bush and none on the previous administration?

robert18,

You have to right to have your opinion. As Voltaire said, “I do not agree with what you have to say, but I’ll defend to the death your right to say it. ”

I suggest you do some research to verify your beliefs.

Good day.

Bob, I will allow the same amount blame to the previous administration as you would ascribe to the current administration.

Telling one lie or even consistently lying about one subject…doesn’t make you a liar…

robert108 on May 18, 2009 at 03:23 pm

“You have absolutely no reason, none, to trust our word or our actions at this point.”

Titular gop Head Mr. Steele

Bob, I will allow the same amount blame to the previous administration as you would ascribe to the current administration.

What you will “allow” is irrelevant.  The fact is that Clinton and Carter enabled Islamic terrorism in the modern world, facilitated it and then ignored the consequences, which then occurred after they had fled the scene.  Shame on them.  Carter could have prevented it, and Clinton could have stopped it.  It’s all on them.

If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

Doing it and authorizing it…two very different things.

Doing it is a fact; the known liar who claims the President authorized it is just making things up to make money.  If you want to take the idiotic position that Armitage took orders from the President, and then sat silent while you lefties used a bogus investigation and trial to go after his administration, go ahead.  It wouldn’t be the dumbest argument you have tried to make…

If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

If no one cares, why were the Bush lackeys all over cable news the last couple of days ripping this guy.

The lying lackey McClellan needed to be refuted.

If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

Thank you, Robert108 for telling it exactly how it is! GW Bush is at the very least doing something about the Islamic problem!

“I don’t know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don’t care. It’s not that important. It’s not our priority.”
—Washington, D.C., March 13, 2002

He quickly corrected his mistake, unlike Clinton.
Non sequitur, btw.

You are up to your usual lying by quoting out of context mode, I see.

If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

BTW, rbb; ever stray on topic?
This thread is about a Dem dissing Liar McClellan.

If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

Oh yeah, thanks Bob.

But what should we make of your first comment?

Ya know the one where you attacked Davinski for calling Hillary a republican…not very topical if you ask me.

But you always seem to have your own drummer boy.

Telling one lie or even consistently lying about one subject…doesn’t make you a liar…

robert108 on May 18, 2009 at 03:23 pm

“You have absolutely no reason, none, to trust our word or our actions at this point.”

Titular gop Head Mr. Steele

But what should we make of your first comment?

Since when is one comment a “threadjack”?  You’ve been distracting this thread for far more than that, which is a real threadjack.  You’re playing the same gradeschool game, rbb.  Grow up.  Even if you contend that my single comment was a “bad act”, it doesn’t excuse your multiple bad acts.  You should have learned that in kindergarten.

BTW, you lied when you said I “attacked” Davinski, unless you two are such delicate flowers that you can’t take a tiny bit of well-deserved ridicule.
Hillary a “Republican”?  That’s just ridiculous, thus the ridicule.

If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

Corrected:

I quoted Voltaire saying, “I do not agree with what you have to say, but I’ll defend to the death your right to say it.”

This is inaccurate. This was an interpretation of Voltaire’s attitude towards Claude Adrien Helvétius by S. G. Tallentyr in “The Friends of Voltaire.”  It’s inspired by a quote in a 1770 letter to M. le Roche, in which he says “I detest what you write, but I would give my life to make it possible for you to continue to write.”

What did your beloved bush do on August 7th after reading the PDB “Bin Ladin Determined to Strike in US”?

Have you read the memo? It’s really quite boring. And it says nothing that the average person on the street didn’t know about OBL before 9/11.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/04/10/august6.memo/

Here, I’ll simplify it for you:

Bin Ladin followers say he will strike in Washington (he didnt). He is working with getting Muslim American youths to attack (none were involved in the attack). He wants to hijack aircraft to release the blind shiek (he cared not about the blind shiek…and the “hijackings” were not normal by any means). There have been suspicious people casing New York federal buildings (none were hit).

Or we can look at the more trivial info:
He likes Ramzi Yousef (good to know). He may have been involved in the Canada millenium plot (would’ve been helpful 2 years before the memo was written). He prepares years in advance (useless info). Bin Ladin has American operatives and American citizens in the mideast (hell, my dad knew that, and he hadn’t been in the military for decades at that point). We have 70 investigations that may be connected (absolutely worthless).

There was nothing in that memo.

Doing it and authorizing it…two very different things.

Armitage was never a fan of the Bush administration and often sought to undermine it. Even critics of Armitage ON THE RIGHT have said he had no ill motives and was just a serial gossip who couldn’t keep his mouth shut…and therefore had no business in a position of power.

Bob, I will allow the same amount blame to the previous administration as you would ascribe to the current administration.

Not hardly fool. Being lax for 8 months with no terrorist attacks cannot be compared to being lax for 8 years with at least one a year. Your comparison is bogus.

It’s all political bullshit. Liberals (and Robert108) lie and spin and twist and obscure and distract and cheat to protect their guys and hurt the opposing team. It’s like wrestling. They distract the ref while their team mate hits you with a chair. There’s no rule they won’t break, no law they won’t skirt, no crime they won’t forgive as long as they can win.

I see that the usual immature upside-downers, “realitybased"bob, Nunez and todd, are all over this one.

Integrity is like virginity. Scott McClelland lost his. And look who is rushing to support him!

Very telling.

likwidshoe,

Integrity is like virginity. Scott McClelland lost his. And look who is rushing to support him!

Another person, like many others, judging McClellan’s book without reading it. We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty. When the loyal opposition dies, I think the soul of America dies with it.

It happened on bush’s watch.

He had warnings.

rbb=BDS
Nothing to see here! Move along!

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Another person, like many others, judging McClellan’s book without reading it. We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty. When the loyal opposition dies, I think the soul of America dies with it.

It’s not “loyal opposition” to come back and slander a regime that fired you after it’s too late to do anything about your “concerns”. It’s cowardice and sour grapes.

It’s all political bullshit. Liberals (and Robert108) lie and spin and twist and obscure and distract and cheat to protect their guys and hurt the opposing team. It’s like wrestling. They distract the ref while their team mate hits you with a chair. There’s no rule they won’t break, no law they won’t skirt, no crime they won’t forgive as long as they can win.

Nunez wrongly asserts, Another person, like many others, judging McClellan’s book without reading it.

There was no “judging” of McClellan’s book by me.

Try again?

Kenny,

McClellan told the truth from his perspective, which is not ‘slander.’ Although, you make a good point about if he could of made in a difference inside the bubble of the White House. Many have attempted to do this, such as in the Military and they have just been fired or forced to retire or resign.

Cowardice presupposes that he knew what was the truth in the situation, which from his account he did not.

Cowardice presupposes that he knew what was the truth in the situation, which from his account he did not.

If he didn’t know the truth, why is he speaking now?  He’s either ignorant or dishonest.  Not much of a choice, is it?

If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

Cowardice presupposes that he knew what was the truth in the situation, which from his account he did not.

So, he’s an idiot. But now he’s a brilliant idiot?

Not buying it.

It’s all political bullshit. Liberals (and Robert108) lie and spin and twist and obscure and distract and cheat to protect their guys and hurt the opposing team. It’s like wrestling. They distract the ref while their team mate hits you with a chair. There’s no rule they won’t break, no law they won’t skirt, no crime they won’t forgive as long as they can win.