robert108,

Scott McClellan: I did fill in for my predecessor at times, and even participated in some White House Iraq Group, or WHIG meetings. WHIG was set up as the marketing arm for selling the war to the public.

The spin that McClellan had no knowledge about what was going on in the White House is laughable.

He wasn’t hired as either a foreign policy advisor or a military strategist.

No shit. He has continually claimed that he was no part of the military planning for Iraq. His claims are about the Bush Administration’s use of ‘propaganda’, CIA leak investigation

Zsa Zsa,

Were you there, RBB? Do tell!

That would have been a slick comment only if realitybasedbob has used his psychic skills as robert108 has done to know exactly what meetings McClellan has gone to in the White House.

Doing it and authorizing it…two very different things.

Doing it is a fact; the known liar who claims the President authorized it is just making things up to make money. If you want to take the idiotic position that Armitage took orders from the President, and then sat silent while you lefties used a bogus investigation and trial to go after his administration, go ahead. It wouldn’t be the dumbest argument you have tried to make…

No shit. He has continually claimed that he was no part of the military planning for Iraq. His claims are about the Bush Administration’s use of ‘propaganda’, CIA leak investigation

As we know who “leaked” Valerie Plame, and that he wasn’t a huge Iraq war fan…McClellan’s claims are already bogus. Whether or not he was in those meetings are irrelevant. As Robert claimed, he has to admit to lying to come out and sell this book. Who trusts a self admitted liar?

Thank you, Robert108 for telling it exactly how it is! GW Bush is at the very least doing something about the Islamic problem!

RBB – Do you really want to be on record ascribing all blame for 9-11 on President Bush and none on the previous administration?

And Todd, you mean all that democrat fairness that is still bitching about Bush firing 8 US attorneys, but didn’t raise a whimper when Clinton canned 93 of them. Of course, to the left, when Clinton did it it was under the guise of the attorneys serving at the leisure of the president. Is my sarcasm coming through on the internet.

I’m amazed that it’s the Democrats who are able to look beyond partisanship and judge this fairly. (Does the internet accurately convey my sarcasm?)

It happened on bush’s watch.

He had warnings.

rbb=BDS
Nothing to see here! Move along!

Richard Clarke was the chief counter-terrorism advisor and he has also written a book about Bush’s grave mistakes.

Actually, they were his “grave mistakes”, and he’s trying to cover his ass by blaming the President.

robert18,

You have to right to have your opinion. As Voltaire said, “I do not agree with what you have to say, but I’ll defend to the death your right to say it. ”

I suggest you do some research to verify your beliefs.

Good day.

Now we know he’s a liar, since Armitage(no friend of this administration) has already admitted to doing it.

Doing it and authorizing it…two very different things.

I don’t think anyone reeeeeally cares what he thinks. HA!

If no one cares, why were the Bush lackeys all over cable news the last couple of days ripping this guy. Even his ex-head lackey Ari Fleischer made the rounds.

Didja read where Puffy has bush admitting to authorizing the leak?

Now we know he’s a liar, since Armitage(no friend of this administration) has already admitted to doing it.

He’s making things up, just like you do, rbb.

Publishers have a way of encouraging individuals to make the story more interesting. (MONEY) Most people know and understand this when a tell all kind of book comes out. I don’t think anyone reeeeeally cares what he thinks. HA!

Ari Fleischer is a member (founder?) of a wingnut neo-con lobbying group.

He is pounding his chest in hopes that other nutters send him money.

Although I am Dem, McAuliffe is just trying to get more middle of the road votes for Republican Hilary.

I am not proclaiming Puffy to be a liar, Bob, you are.

‘Were you there’ is an argument you have proffered many times in when attacking someone else’s statement. It makes perfect sense to use it now.

So, were you there?

rbb: Hate to break it to you, but OBL is still determined to strike in the US. The difference is that we have a President now who is killing the terrorists and foiling their plans, instead of diddling an intern when he should have been going after Al Qaeda.

Oh yeah, thanks Bob.

But what should we make of your first comment?

Ya know the one where you attacked Davinski for calling Hillary a republican…not very topical if you ask me.

But you always seem to have your own drummer boy.

What did your beloved bush do on August 7th after reading the PDB “Bin Ladin Determined to Strike in US”?

How many security meetings were held before September 11?

bush failed us.

It’s telling when people attack Scott’s character and not the facts of the book. Hypocrisy is evident knowing the Republican reaction to George Stephanopoulos’s book which was published during the second term of Bill Clinton’s presidency.

robert108,

It’s called a logical argument, dude.

No. Your premise, “he wasn’t in any of the meetings that he claims to know about” is false, therefore the conclusion ‘he’s lying’ is a fallacy.

BTW, rbb; ever stray on topic?
This thread is about a Dem dissing Liar McClellan.

Bob, I will allow the same amount blame to the previous administration as you would ascribe to the current administration.

What did your beloved bush do on August 7th after reading the PDB “Bin Ladin Determined to Strike in US”?

Have you read the memo? It’s really quite boring. And it says nothing that the average person on the street didn’t know about OBL before 9/11.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/04/10/august6.memo/

Here, I’ll simplify it for you:

Bin Ladin followers say he will strike in Washington (he didnt). He is working with getting Muslim American youths to attack (none were involved in the attack). He wants to hijack aircraft to release the blind shiek (he cared not about the blind shiek…and the “hijackings” were not normal by any means). There have been suspicious people casing New York federal buildings (none were hit).

Or we can look at the more trivial info:
He likes Ramzi Yousef (good to know). He may have been involved in the Canada millenium plot (would’ve been helpful 2 years before the memo was written). He prepares years in advance (useless info). Bin Ladin has American operatives and American citizens in the mideast (hell, my dad knew that, and he hadn’t been in the military for decades at that point). We have 70 investigations that may be connected (absolutely worthless).

There was nothing in that memo.

Doing it and authorizing it…two very different things.

Armitage was never a fan of the Bush administration and often sought to undermine it. Even critics of Armitage ON THE RIGHT have said he had no ill motives and was just a serial gossip who couldn’t keep his mouth shut…and therefore had no business in a position of power.

Bob, I will allow the same amount blame to the previous administration as you would ascribe to the current administration.

Not hardly fool. Being lax for 8 months with no terrorist attacks cannot be compared to being lax for 8 years with at least one a year. Your comparison is bogus.

Cowardice presupposes that he knew what was the truth in the situation, which from his account he did not.

If he didn’t know the truth, why is he speaking now? He’s either ignorant or dishonest. Not much of a choice, is it?

Another person, like many others, judging McClellan’s book without reading it. We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty. When the loyal opposition dies, I think the soul of America dies with it.

It’s not “loyal opposition” to come back and slander a regime that fired you after it’s too late to do anything about your “concerns”. It’s cowardice and sour grapes.

As we know who “leaked” Valerie Plame…

Didja read where Puffy has bush admitting to authorizing the leak?