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Out here, we call him SchwartzenKennedy!

No matter the age or state of health, for a military man it is always glorious to tilt at windmills, rescue a fair Dulcinea and be a gallant knight in armor in a glorious cause.

It is a fact that Schwarzenegger grabbed and fondled women’s breasts against their will just to say hello. On some occasions, he would forcefully expose a woman’s breasts in front of other people so that he could see them.

Even if he did this one time, he should be in jail instead of the Governor’s mansion but, the fact is that he did it many times. Strong, powerful, and rich, he is the ultimate women’s nightmare.

His perversion, disrespect, and crime far outweighs Craig’s foot tapping, yet, there is no media hysteria or public outcry. This is one of the most disgusting people in public office. Do you not wonder who wants him where he is?

It is a fact that Schwarzenegger grabbed and fondled women’s breasts against their will just to say hello.

“Against their will”?  I doubt it.  Have you ever seen how women act around a famous movie star?  These stories came out decades later, and only when the Dems wanted to prevent his election.  More leftie lies.
Not that I approve of Arnie’s socialist crap, btw; it’s just that smear is always to be fought against.

If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

I despise SchwartzenKennedy, he is a damnable liberal; but while many charges about him fondling women have arisen, none that I know of have been proven in a court of law, and accusations alone are not proof of guilt. Plus, this state is the West Coast bastion of liberalism and to them sexual misconduct by their political leaders is a badge of honor, for a Republican in this state the accusation alone is absolute proof of guilt and demands the death penalty.

No matter the age or state of health, for a military man it is always glorious to tilt at windmills, rescue a fair Dulcinea and be a gallant knight in armor in a glorious cause.

So we need to buy bus tickets to california for all of the losers that don’t want to pay for their own health care.

Sounds doable to me.

What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.

I predict more invaders.

If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

Schwarzenegger was the only viable alternative

What about Gary Coleman?

Do not fear to be eccentric in opinion, for every opinion now accepted was once eccentric.

Yeah r, that Arnold smear was so vicious, Arnold himself had to issue a statement about it:

“Where there is smoke there is fire. I have behaved badly sometimes...I was on rowdy movie sets and have done things that were not right which I thought then was playful but now I recognize that I have offended people...I am deeply sorry about that and I apologize because this is not what I’m trying to do.”

“If a conservative is still a republican after the last 13 years, he is blind to the fact that his party of choice has failed him utterly.” – Realitybasedbob

These stories came out decades later, and only when the Dems wanted to prevent his election.

One of the more hypocritical instances of this, was during the recall election, MoveOn.org took out a full page ad in the LA papers decrying Arnold’s supposed sexual sins.
Excuse me! Weren’t these the people who were telling us “It’s time to Move On! It was only about sex!” when it was a Democrat they were talking about?
No double standards there! /sarcasm

A troll is someone who only wants to stir up trouble, not have an honest debate.  Some signs that a poster is a troll:
* Dodges questions from other posters * Refuses to give sources
* When one of its arguments is shown to be false, either ignores the proof or moves the goalposts.  Heh. (From the LGF faq)

rbb: Do you believe everything Arnie says, or only those words you can twist to fit your agenda?  Just curious.

If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

First comes:

More leftie lies. Not that I approve of Arnie’s socialist crap, btw; it’s just that smear is always to be fought against.

Then we have:

rbb: Do you believe everything Arnie says, or only those words you can twist to fit your agenda?

So the allegations were smears but when the Groppenator apologized to the allegers is was liberal agenda twist.

r, do you believe you stretch more that Gumby or are you a Plastic Man kinda guy?

“If a conservative is still a republican after the last 13 years, he is blind to the fact that his party of choice has failed him utterly.” – Realitybasedbob

Schwarzenegger could have a successful universal healthcare system in California if he paid for it by taxing plastic surgery, boob jobs, tummy tucks, hair implants and rehab for the stars.

How many smokers are left in California? Illegal aliens have more rights.

rbb: The false, decades-old allegations were smears; his apology was for political purposes made necessary by the smears.  Can’t you tell the difference, or do you just not care, in your lust to smear Republicans in any way you can?

If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

In your lust for gop, was our Governor lying when he denied the charges or was he lying when he apologized for charges?

I’m going with the Gumby.

“If a conservative is still a republican after the last 13 years, he is blind to the fact that his party of choice has failed him utterly.” – Realitybasedbob

rbb: Just for you, today’s Google score:

Democrat corruption: 427,000 results

Republican corruption: 246,000 results

If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

rbb: The political reality is that one has to reply to a smear.  The Dem-biased media continued to trumpet the false allegation until Arnie replied.  Why do you lie by never mentioning the much more common Democrat corruption?

If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

So you agree, our gop Governor is a liar.

Thank you again for proving the media is not liberally biased.

“If a conservative is still a republican after the last 13 years, he is blind to the fact that his party of choice has failed him utterly.” – Realitybasedbob

So you agree, our gop Governor is a liar.

No, I don’t.  I do agree that you are a liar, though, of long standing.

If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

...was our Governor lying when he denied the charges or was he lying when he apologized for charges?

“If a conservative is still a republican after the last 13 years, he is blind to the fact that his party of choice has failed him utterly.” – Realitybasedbob

...was our Governor lying when he denied the charges or was he lying when he apologized for charges?

One more time, bob, because you are apparently having comprehension problems:

The false accusations were lies(thus the “false accusations” part), and the “apology” was a political necessity because of the harassment by the Dem media over the false accusations.  I know this is probably too sophisticated for the simple-minded to grasp.

If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

Thank you for conceding that our Governor is a liar.

“If a conservative is still a republican after the last 13 years, he is blind to the fact that his party of choice has failed him utterly.” – Realitybasedbob

To think that Ahnold provided an introduction to one of Milton Friedman’s “Freedom of Choice” segments is a sad statement to the depths that an individual will sink for political expediency.  The fact that felchtards like rbb are already wallowing in the abyss is fitting.

rbb: No, I think he was truthful in wishing to stop the harassment from the lefties like you.

If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

Robert108 You are calling him Arnie as though the two of you are bedmates.
Please tell me it isn’t so.

No, no, no!
Schwartzeneggar was NEVER a better choice than Gray Davis - never ever!

He was and is a living example of stupidity by “Conservatives” and RINOS who thought all along they could get the DIM LIBERAL policies they wanted out of the Kennedy in-law who was best buds and COFESSED had the SAME VALUES as the LIBERAL HOLLYWOOD CROWD like Danny de Vito, etc. - but with GOP credentials, they could blame the GOP for him.

If they had wanted CONSERVATIVE they would have danced with the man who brung them, Tom McClintock.

They sold themselves “ELECTABILITY” and got exactly what they deserve - this is only the tip of the iceburg - remember a few months ago, he signed the bill to BAN “mother and father, husband and wife” from the Public Schools.

This is a lesson is what you get when you vote for RINOS and claim you are doing it because “it is the best you can do” in fighting off the DIMS.

You get what you have coming.

Arnold is the REASON I will NEVER consider voting for McCain, Fred, Rudi, Mitt, or Huckabee, or Newt.

He’s the PROOF OF THE PUDDING!

Arnold was NOT their only alternative - he was just the only one the STAR-DAZZLED FANS could SEE, for all the GLITTER AND GLITZ.

They had a diamond in front of them, and passed him by.
Acted sillier than a room full of DIMS at a Toady Kennedy swimming party at Chappaquiddick.

I feel the same way about this National Election - if the GOP wants a stupid RINO worse than they want QUALITY - and don’t want to make themselves settle down and rally behind a REAL “Conservative” instead of this bunch of SHOW DONKEYS they are having fun parading around on the GOP stage, then I want them to have what they want and demand.

I really do! They’ve been asking for it for a long long time.

And in a few months, California won’t have any hospitals at all! They’ll be like Florida when they let the DIMS squirrel up the OB/GYN doctors til nobody in Florida could get a baby delivered by a doctor in the entire state, because of Dim lawsuits, like Edwards is famous for - having SEANCES in the courtroom with the JURY.

robert108 on December 28, 2007 at 11:15 am

I am going to put this as absolutely politely to you as I possibly can, robert.

Please understand, you must do some interpretting on this thing for yourself, as I must by all standards make this as extremely #$&*#$&*%#&*%#&*(#&*#&*#&*%#&*(#(&*#&*%#
UNDERSTATED as possible.

You are not ....hhhmmm… applying much “brightness” to your assessment of that situation.[Black Hole comes to mind]

Many women who are around famous or “powerful” men are there for various reasons which do NOT include the desire to swoon themselves silly over such a moronic baboon.

I’ve never seen or heard an interview of a girl who spent any time working in a strip club who couldn’t tell you about the huge bowls of DRUGS the girls inhale to be able to endure such treatment from the “customers” - so even if all the girls around him who got treated that way came from the nearest Playboy MAnsion, your statement would be found #$$#@&*%$&*%#&*%#&*%#&%$& INADEQUATE.

And I am SURE you can read between the lines and get my #%%#%#&*%#&*$^#&*%#&* DRIFT!

Does someone care to explain why the DIMS would want to fight Arnold’s election?

COULD THEY HAVE EVER HOPED TO ACCOMPLISH THIS MUCH OF THEIR AGENDA????

You guys are full of it if you want to sell the idea that DIMS oppose Arnold HALF as much as they MIGHT PRETEND to.

OR: I have spent a fair amount of time in and around the music business, and I speak from experience.  A woman who works at a strip club has already made one very bad decision, and has no one to blame but herself is she uses her chosen circumstances to justify drug use.  Bad language is never necessary if you have a good point.

If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

Robert108 You are calling him Arnie as though the two of you are bedmates. Please tell me it isn’t so.

You speak from your own context, not mine.  “Arnie” is shorter than spelling his full name, and everyone knows that name.  Duh.

If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

Robert108 You are calling him Arnie as though the two of you are bedmates. Please tell me it isn’t so.

You speak from your own context, not mine.  “Arnie” is shorter than spelling his full name, and everyone knows that name.  Duh.

robert108 on December 28, 2007 at 10:04 pm

Arnie is an affectionate term for Arnold.
Everyone knows that. Duh.

Arnie is an affectionate term for Arnold.
Everyone knows that. Duh.

Only for you; for me, it’s an abbreviation.  I guess I got you turned on by calling you “e”.  It doesn’t mean what you think.  Thanks for letting me know how your mind works.

If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

Only for you; for me, it’s an abbreviation.  I guess I got you turned on by calling you “e”.  It doesn’t mean what you think.  Thanks for letting me know how your mind works.

robert108 on December 28, 2007 at 10:19 pm

No I did not think you called me “e” because you love me. As far as turning me on let it be known that you do turn on the best in me when we debate for I have to watch what I say, how I say it, in what context I say it etc. etc… Plus I have fun with your quick wit and the way you never give up.
Now back to that Arnie thing.......

Now stop it you two, you are destroying marriage as we know it.

And thank you for acknowledging our Governor is a liar, r.

“If a conservative is still a republican after the last 13 years, he is blind to the fact that his party of choice has failed him utterly.” – Realitybasedbob

Schwarzenegger is a lier like all other politicians.
He said if elected he would open the books so everybody can examine the finances of California.
I am still waiting.

He said he would fix the budget and budget deficit.
The sob used accounting gimmicks, borrowing, refinancing,magic and other tricks but has not balanced the budget.
Has said would not take money from special interests, but has surpassed Gray Davis in receiving political donations from special interests.
And he consistently receives political donations from out of state interests.

Schwarzenegger is a lier
Correction Schwarzenegger is a liar

realitybasedbob I don’t think Robert108 would mary me.
He does not like gay sex or gay marriage, Liberals Democrats and a host of other things.
Plus I would not marry him because as you know he likes to accuse people of lying when they are merely expessing their views or opining on a subject.

Bad language is never necessary if you have a good point.

robert108 on December 28, 2007 at 10:00 pm

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Well, that is true in a neat, emotionless, clinical debate - but when issues deal with human lives, sometimes a good rage just absolutely demands expression.

I didn’t use any bad language, however, so what has your statement to do with the price of eggs in China?

The rest of what you said - some of the women are STILL not there around such men JUST to swoon all over him.
And many women in that position still do NOT appreciate a bunch of baboons!

It doesn’t appear that you have the cognitive abilities to distinguish, since you made a blanket and sweeping statement about the women in question, in your very first post on this thread.

Meanwhile, if you think that is “defending” your politician of choice, you have a very rude awakening coming.

This baloney doesn’t make him a “Man”, any more than it does Clinton.
All it does is prove neither of them has what it takes to make ONE woman happy.
That means they don’t KNOW what it takes to make a Community HEALTHY.
And they haven’t got a clue what a Covenant is. Without it, they don’t have a relationship of value in their lives.
And they don’t know what a valuable relationship requires.
That is why neither of them can impress anyone but Socialists.

...but has not balanced the budget.

Like our Federal govt, the CA legislature controls the spending, and it is heavily Dem, and so is very much tax and spend.  I’m not saying I approve of his policies, but he doesn’t have that much power to control the Dem legislature.  As usual, the leftie media tries to blame him for things he isn’t responsible for.  What else is new?  The lefties always target Republicans, no matter what we do.

If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

And thank you for acknowledging our Governor is a liar, r.

In your dreams.  Now, your boy Clinton is a genuine, pathological liar.

If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

Schwartzeneggar was NEVER a better choice than Gray Davis - never ever!

Untrue; his deficit is smaller than Davis’.

If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

OR: The allegations were false, so you can save your namecalling for someone who appreciates it(not me).

If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

First r-Gumby pulls out this:

Like our Federal govt, the CA legislature controls the spending, and it is heavily Dem, and so is very much tax and spend.

Then r-Gumby stretches out this:

Untrue; his [Schwarzenegger’s] deficit is smaller than Davis’.

So which is it r–Gumby?

A dem legislature that controls spending giving the state a smaller deficit or a Governor who has no control of spending giving the state a smaller deficit?

And thank you again r for conceding that our Governor is a liar.

“If a conservative is still a republican after the last 13 years, he is blind to the fact that his party of choice has failed him utterly.” – Realitybasedbob

Like our Federal govt, the CA legislature controls the spending, and it is heavily Dem, and so is very much tax and spend.  I’m not saying I approve of his policies, but he doesn’t have that much power to control the Dem legislature.  As usual, the leftie media tries to blame him for things he isn’t responsible for.  What else is new?  The lefties always target Republicans, no matter what we do.
robert108 on December 29, 2007 at 01:18 am

They (Schwarzenegger and Bush)do have veto power don’t they? Aren’t they the ultimate deciders barring a veto overide? They should veto everything that comes their way, and use the bullypulpit to explain their position as to why such budgets are bad for us.

They (Schwarzenegger and Bush)do have veto power don’t they? In CA, the Dems are so much in the majority that his vetos would be overridden, so you have no point here. The excessive spending would simply continue. Aren’t they the ultimate deciders barring a veto overide? No, as I have already explained.  In CA, the Dem legislature is the decider. They should veto everything that comes their way, When the President does that, he is accused in the leftie MSM as being obstructionist. and use the bullypulpit to explain their position as to why such budgets are bad for us.  The “bullypulpit” belongs to the leftie MSM, so his words are often spun, twisted and misinterpreted. They’re still not reporting the good news from Iraq.

If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

A dem legislature that controls spending giving the state a smaller deficit or a Governor who has no control of spending giving the state a smaller
deficit? He has very little control, not “no control”.  You just made that up. During the Davis admin, there was a Dem gov and a Dem legislature, so they rolled up a much larger deficit.  Duh.  Arnie has used his influence to keep it down, but hasn’t the power to eliminate the Dem excessive spending.  Duh.

And thank you again r for conceding that our Governor is a liar. Your extreme partisanship makes you stupid.

If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

Your extreme partisanship makes you stupid.

RIght backatcha Gumby

“If a conservative is still a republican after the last 13 years, he is blind to the fact that his party of choice has failed him utterly.” – Realitybasedbob

rbb: Your namecalling is sooo powerful. /sarcasm

If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

I accept you capitulation.

“If a conservative is still a republican after the last 13 years, he is blind to the fact that his party of choice has failed him utterly.” – Realitybasedbob

Today’s Google score:

Democrat corruption: 520,000 results

Republican corruption: 367,000 results

Despite liars like you, rbb, the Dems continue to be the most corrupt Party, by far.  Good luck with that.

If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

Gumby, thank you for proving the once again media is not liberally biased.

“If a conservative is still a republican after the last 13 years, he is blind to the fact that his party of choice has failed him utterly.” – Realitybasedbob

First off it is a disgrace to call Arnold a Republican, he is far from it. There are democrats that are way more conservative than him. Next thing he is going to want is a government bail out for Mexifornia.

Check out:
Goon’s North Dakota Red Neck
Goon’s World

In CA, the Dems are so much in the majority that his vetos would be overridden, so you have no point here. The excessive spending would simply continue.
robert108 on December 29, 2007 at 10:05 am

You always accuse lefties of lying, yet you lie like a lying dog. You being a Californian know damn well that the dems in California even though they are the majority party they cannot pass the budget because they don’t have the votes neccessary to pass a budget. Thus every year the same shit. No budget on time because the Repubs won’t vote for it.
You lying old dog you. Man oh man you are like those lying liers that hide behind the lies they spread.

You lying old dog you. Man oh man you are like those lying liers that hide behind the lies they spread.

In your orgy of namecalling, you simply don’t understand that the ability to block isn’t the ability to write and pass legislation.  Duh.  Plus the fact that the media then blames the frugal Republicans instead of the spendthrift Dems.  All we can do in CA is to slow them down; we can’t stop them.
Sorry I had to ‘splain this to you.

If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

Sorry I had to ‘splain this to you.
robert108 on December 29, 2007 at 03:39 pm

You did not “splain” anything. You spinned it so much that you are dizzy from all the spinning.

You are not talking to your grandkids. You are talking to me.
You are splitting hairs. Well the splitting comes to a point where you can’t split it anymore and it explodes in your face.

Nonsensical mixed metaphors!  Sorry you couldn’t understand the facts.

If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

e, maybe you can understand this:

Deficit under Gray Davis:  34.6 billion

Current Arnie deficit:  14 billion

I told the truth.  You are wrong, and are unable to admit it due to your wounded ego.

If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

r-Gumby, thank you again, for proving the CA dem legislator which as you have said “controls the spending” is able to cut government spending resulting in a lower deficit.

“If a conservative is still a republican after the last 13 years, he is blind to the fact that his party of choice has failed him utterly.” – Realitybasedbob

r-Gumby, thank you again, for proving the CA dem legislator which as you have said “controls the spending” is able to cut government spending
resulting in a lower deficit.

As usual, you lie.  Same legislature, different governor.  You figure it out.  With Davis in office, there was nothing to rein in the profligate Dem spending, while the Republican gov can do his best to keep it down.  He can’t control the spending, but he can shame them publicly into not spending so much.
What’s your fascination with kiddie cartoon characters?

If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

r-Gumby,

Earlier you wrote : “but he doesn’t have that much power to control the Dem legislature” and “

In CA, the Dems are so much in the majority that his vetos would be overridden, so you have no point here. The excessive spending would simply continue.

But they haven’t, have they?

You also gave us:

…”

In CA, the Dem legislature is the decider

But now you seem to be saying something different.

Oh r-gumby, you really can stretch the truth. Just like a little green ball of clay.

“If a conservative is still a republican after the last 13 years, he is blind to the fact that his party of choice has failed him utterly.” – Realitybasedbob

kiddie cartoon character guy: Even though he can’t affect the spendthrift Dems directly(Duh), he has obviously been able to reduce their greed in other ways. 

34.6 billion reduced to 14 billion.  I know your brain hurts when you have to do math, but get your Mommy to ‘splain it to you.

Unless you are trying to sell the ridiculous lie that the Dems voluntarily cut spending when Arnie took office; is that what your childlike mind is trying to sell?

If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

r-Gumby, thank you for proving the CA dems have cut spending and the CA deficit.

As you have said“…In CA, the Dem legislature is the decider”

“If a conservative is still a republican after the last 13 years, he is blind to the fact that his party of choice has failed him utterly.” – Realitybasedbob

kiddie cartoon character guy: With Davis in office, the out of control Dem legislature went into hock to the taxpayers to the tune of 34.6 billion.
With Arnie in office, the Dems only went into hock to the tune of 14 billion.  What made them do that?
Why would Spendocrats voluntarily spend less?
Of course, even a liar like you knows the real reason: Arnie shamed them into it.  He doesn’t have the votes or the legislative power, so he shined a bright light on the Dem cockroaches, who went scuttling back into the dark corners.(that’s a metaphor, btw)

If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

What I proved is that Arnie made a difference; it wasn’t through votes or legislation, though.  He should get a medal for stopping the Spendocrat cockroaches(or at least slowing them down), but you leftie liars are trying to make a deficit reduction into some sort of crime.

Shame on you!

If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

e: After bashing Arnie for not eliminating all of CA’s deficit, you conveniently missed the fact that he reduced Davis’ deficit by almost 60%.(in current dollars; if you factor in inflation, it’s even more) You must really need something to whine about.

If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

r-Gumby, On the CA deficit.

Please tell us how the Williams Companies, Sempra, Enron and other energy companies colluded to pillage CA of billions of tax dollars. Please describe the recorded phone call between the Williams and an employee at a Williams SoCal power plant. Please tell us about the memos Death Star and Fat Boy wrote detailing the scheme to rip of CA. Tell us about the secret meetings with Ken Lay, Schwarzenegger and Riordan.

Tell us about Timothy Belden who pleaded guilty and turned states evidence.

Tell us Gumby. Tell us how CA came to be in such debt. Go on. Tell us, Gumby.

“If a conservative is still a republican after the last 13 years, he is blind to the fact that his party of choice has failed him utterly.” – Realitybasedbob

34.6 billion under Davis; how do you explain that, kiddie cartoon character boy?

As usual with a lying leftie, you change the subject to some of your lying leftie talking points, rather than answer a direct question.  Try to focus on what I asked you.  Explain Davis’ deficit.

If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

The Davis deficit?

huge population explosion causing a demand for gov spending on infrastructure and conservative voters who poopoo’d needed tax increases exacerbated by prop 13, the Dot com busted bubble lowered capital gains taxes by 15% in two years and the beginning of the Lay/Cheney energy policy in 2001 (revisit previous post). Davis also inhered from 16 years of gop govs a 38.9 billion dollar debt.

“If a conservative is still a republican after the last 13 years, he is blind to the fact that his party of choice has failed him utterly.” – Realitybasedbob

...needed tax increases…

Only by greedy Spendocrats.  The environazis stopped the building of new powerplants and crippled nuke power, creating energy shortages.  More leftie criminality.

If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

e, maybe you can understand this:
Deficit under Gray Davis:  34.6 billion
Current Arnie deficit:  14 billion
I told the truth.  You are wrong, and are unable to admit it due to your wounded ego.
robert108 on December 29, 2007 at 04:04 pm

Before you posted that little meaningless gem I posted this:

The sob used accounting gimmicks, borrowing, refinancing,magic and other tricks but has not balanced the budget

The sob used accounting gimmicks, borrowing, refinancing,magic and other tricks but has not balanced the budget

Any evidence of this, other than your hateful partisanship?  You just can’t admit that you are wrong.  I think it’s admirable that the Davis deficit has been reduced by as much as it has, and with a Spendocrat majority in the legislature.

If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

Are you going to sit there and tell me that the deficit Davis accumulated because of the greedy power companies was not financed through borrowing and put to rest?
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Before the Dems got power in CA, it was a conservative State, and a prosperous one.  Like they always do, the leftie Dems are plundering what the free enterprise system built, through taxation, regulation and income redistribution.  Davis drove business out of the State, and Arnie has brought some of it back.
It is govt that is truly greedy; they take without creating any prosperity.  They take the prosperity of others.  The power companies have to function with their hands tied, due to greedy govt policies, guided by the environazis.

If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

e: I don’t know why you don’t know this, but power companies are public utilities; they are managed and controlled by the govt.  The govt strictly controls what they can charge, and what profit margin(or return on capital) they can receive.  Didn’t you ever wonder why each power company has its own area?  The power companies don’t compete with each other, and so there are no market forces at work.  The govt strictly controls the supply of power through regulating the building of powerplants; power companies aren’t free to build as much capacity as they want, and they are not free to come into another company’s territory and offer discounts to take market share.  It is all managed by the govt, to the detriment of the public.  We suffer brownouts, blackouts and rate increases because of govt controls.  Socialism(govt control of a market) always produces shortages and rising prices, because govt control prevents demand(from the consumers) from calling forth the necessary supply.  Demand is controlled by the govt, not by the people who need it.

If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

Before the Dems got power in CA, it was a conservative State

More conservative. It’s hard to argue that guys like Pete Wilson are true blue conservatives. And CA did tend to elect libs like Alan Cranston to the Senate. But it was certainly more conservative and more prosperous than today!

A troll is someone who only wants to stir up trouble, not have an honest debate.  Some signs that a poster is a troll:
* Dodges questions from other posters * Refuses to give sources
* When one of its arguments is shown to be false, either ignores the proof or moves the goalposts.  Heh. (From the LGF faq)

Proof: Pete Wilson raised taxes, ergo, he wasn’t a conservative.  I mean a little earlier than that.

If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

Must have been before my time!

A troll is someone who only wants to stir up trouble, not have an honest debate.  Some signs that a poster is a troll:
* Dodges questions from other posters * Refuses to give sources
* When one of its arguments is shown to be false, either ignores the proof or moves the goalposts.  Heh. (From the LGF faq)

Proof: The foundation for CA prosperity was laid by the fact that its factories were used to make the war materiel that won WWII; after the war, we had all this capacity, which, along with the pent-up demand from wartime rationing, and the need for housing for the returning veterans, led to a manufacturing and home construction boom that was truly staggering.  It’s not so much that CA always had Republican leadership in those days, but the Dems were still a Party of America, and so supported prosperity instead of trying to bleed business for redistributionist programs.  Both Parties supported prosperity in those days, for all Americans.  The commies hadn’t yet succeeded in sowing the toxic seeds of class envy politics in the Dem Party.
The unions, although greedy as usual, couldn’t dent the prosperity wave that much, since govt wasn’t engaged in sabotaging prosperity.  The deadly combo of unionism and govt greed, which was characteristic of the Davis administration, was far in the future, and so CA prospered.

If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.